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I know what the new supplement Ingredients are meant to do - and in fact I already use them*, but not as pure ingredients. I guess I just wanted to read the manufacturer's write up on each them, especially if it's full of technical biological details in mr cooper style as I like that ****

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- I'm getting Trib. Alatus from MRM Tribuplex which I run for 5 week on, 5 off cycles at 3 caps ED, and TSN Natural T.
- Chlorophytum Borivilatium from Growth Factor XT (2 before bed), LeCheek Mass HGH (1 before bed) and TSN Natural T (3 caps ED)
- I get Fenugreek from several other supps (it's in every test booster/GDA these days)

I guess I'll like to know how far I can push the doses, as with the pure highly standardiszeed ingredients I could really reap the rewards of their purpoted benefits

That sounds like (among other things) a max libido stack you'll have going on there...good.night, lol, just missing some DAA, unless that's in the TSN or MRM supps...
 
I have one(two)!

What is the main purpose with fenugreek400 and tribulus alatus, and how would they work? What can I as a buyer expect in terms of carry over in my holy quest for added gains? :)

Fenu400 acts as a libido enhancer, which can also increase lean body mass, and helps to normalize glucose metabolism. It can also act as an appetite suppressant. It acts in many ways, including activating PI3K, inducing insulin secretion

T-Alatus increases serum testosterone, which may result in an increase in strength and endurance. It most likely works by raising levels of luteinizing hormones.
 
To add to synapsins post, we used a full saponin extract with our fenugreek so it has potential for both improving insulin sensitivity and potential testosterone boosting benefits.

For chlorotest, a human study shows it elevates GH, a few rodent studies show it elevates testosterone and based on experience it is one hell of a libido booster and helps with sleep quality
 
To add to synapsins post, we used a full saponin extract with our fenugreek so it has potential for both improving insulin sensitivity and potential testosterone boosting benefits.

For chlorotest, a human study shows it elevates GH, a few rodent studies show it elevates testosterone and based on experience it is one hell of a libido booster and helps with sleep quality

Interesting info regarding Fenu400 being full spectrum as you get the best of both worlds, so to speak. It's properly dosed too.

With regards to chlorotest, I presume the best time to take it then would be before bed...and maybe first thing in the morning, correct?

schizm,
DAA @ 2g ED from D-Pol with an added boost of sarcosine is in the mix too, don't worry ehehe
 
Work won't give me any OT, stuck at 30hrs a week unfortunately :(. Have to find another pt job to have as a supplement fund lol

You can only work 30 hours a week? LOL, thats what i do at one of my job and another 25-30 at my other.
Must be nice!

the exta 20-30 hours from the part time job i do on the side is a nice benefit to the insider sales.

Oh yeah.. PES Guys...

Black Friday/Cyber Monday????

Whats good?
 
Interesting info regarding Fenu400 being full spectrum as you get the best of both worlds, so to speak. It's properly dosed too.

Some info on its other effects besides its effect test and libido

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With regards to chlorotest, I presume the best time to take it then would be before bed...and maybe first thing in the morning, correct?

Correct
 
You can only work 30 hours a week? LOL, thats what i do at one of my job and another 25-30 at my other.
Must be nice!

the exta 20-30 hours from the part time job i do on the side is a nice benefit to the insider sales.

Oh yeah.. PES Guys...

Black Friday/Cyber Monday????

Whats good?
Its all they can afford to give me unfortunately would like more but that's the way it works extra hours always good especially when you gotta pay off school loans
 
thank god i paid off my car, school loans up next and trying to move out as soon as it financially makes sense
one of the perks of being in the military is not having to worry about student loans... I don't know how some of these kids do it?!?! I so to Cal State and its super pricy compared to schools back home in Indiana... A semester parking pass is over $350 :(
 
Lol parking for me was $450. Its a god damn rip off. Tiny d3 school too :(

No athletic scholarship... But school makes money off our baseball team. The NCAA is so corrupt its ridiculous.
 
You just don't learn what you need to know until you're in the situation. And being able to go and basically just be a sponge for everything he showed and taught me was and incredible experienc .

Experience is the best teacher! Especially in my line of future profession!
 
Seriously school is to teach you how to learn not what you really need to know. You learn 95% on the job.
 
Seriously school is to teach you how to learn not what you really need to know. You learn 95% on the job.
I have to explain that to so many new hires it gets old. The diploma means you have the ability to learn. Not that you know it all already...lol
 
You just don't learn what you need to know until you're in the situation. And being able to go and basically just be a sponge for everything he showed and taught me was and incredible experienc .

Im noticing that more and more lately myself. Man thats amazing, and Im glad youve found someone who is a real mentor and not just a presence in the shadows leaving ya to learn everything yourself.
 
Before I graduated I had to do two internships and learned more from that then in school. You need to be put in those situations to see how you are. It was unpaid, but the experience was worth it
 
I learned more in 3 days in Vegas at the Olympia with Myokemist about business than I did during 4 years at school unfortunately

Agree
When i went to Vegas with Scivation and got to work the booth with mike McCandless who knows a TON in the industry
Rob Moran the VP
Layne Norton (Training/Cardio) i was picking his brain all weekend.

It opened my eyes to the industry and all the information that you would probably NOT want to hear haha.

Education seems to be less and less and about learning and more and more about making money. Colleges and schools are like,
t]

Try being an education major. that is the complete oppositie
Get paid little to nothing to do a damn hard job.
 
The High Volume insider should be next week. :eek:
 
The first sample review is in!

Today I came home from work to these sleek, mysterious samples that I had been waiting for. Luckily my last gym session for the week was today. Still no label though :/

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Now for my experience.....

Mixability: 10/10

Didn't even use a blender ball and no problems here what so ever.

Taste: 10/10

I decided to go with the blue in 12 oz. of water to start my drive to the gym. I think I would've been better off with slightly less...so I won't comment on the comparison to alphamine just yet. That being said, this flavor was absolutely phenomenal. The blueberry sweetness was very obvious and smooth going down(reminiscent to AminoIV). No bad aftertaste either, all around nailed this taste. I will be going with 8 oz. next round for stronger flavor.

Focus/energy: 7.5/10

This IS the best non-stim I have taken in this category hands down. This I the first time I've been caffiene free before my workout in at least a month and after a 10 hour day of work I had no problem at all getting motivated, I'm not sure if this formula contains any ingredients to improve cognitive function or if it was placebo from my eagerness to try it out but I was laser focused for 50 minutes at least, I didn't even acknowledge anyone until after lifting.

PUMPzz: 10/10

At first I noticed my vascularity beiming more pronounced in my hands driving over as well as a very warming sensation(which carried over to the workout) The fact that I got such a ridiculous swell today was astounding...I was scheduled to do a power upper-body pull day. I didn't do a single set with more than 5-6 reps and it was a short 45-50 minute workout with longer rest periods. My vascularity was very evident in my arms and even some in my shoulders and chest(I'm around 14-15% bf now) my skin was stretched like I just did a super high volume day(lol get it) but seriously this stuff is undoubtably another novel creation by PES, I loved it and I will update as soon as I try the other packet Monday for my Upper-body Push Hyper day.


Overall first impression:9/10

The only reason I give this a 9 is because I have 100% belief that this great company will find someway to improve upon this someday as great as it already is.

Lastly big thanks to PES, Ben, Coop, KBayne and all you guys for selecting me for this opportunity :)

P.s here's a post workout pic....pls excuse my unimpressive Fatceps

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I hand picked some people from forums to get samples. I do not look through order history. :)
 
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