Anyone not getting results from -epi? check in here.

Have you gotten results from your epi product?

  • yes

    Votes: 71 64.5%
  • no

    Votes: 39 35.5%

  • Total voters
    110
AH, thanks for the clarification :D Makes life easier.

In that case, this is the thread I was referring to: Invalid Link Removed

"Product is still being hyped over at placebo minds. "


Thats funny :D
 
I can't take credit, I only read the stuff there rather than participate :P

Hell I don't care...if posting on this forum means mass hype, then it means we're are somewhat.....relevant? :D
 
Well yes, but forum perception is HEAVILY skewed by shills, sockpuppet accounts, people ****ting on anything specific brands put out, people worshipping anything specific brands put out.

It's no coincidence that the most vocal non-rep advocates for any given brand are usually people who coincidentally win lots of 'random' free product from that brand, or are just openly given product for their positive feedback.

For your goals I recommend Focus XT stacked with the entire SNS line!
 
For your goals I recommend Focus XT stacked with the entire SNS line!

So you're telling me that I should take some Invalid Link Removed every morning in place of coffee, grab some Invalid Link Removed for before high carb meals, and take my Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, and Invalid Link Removed before my workouts?

I suppose I could also take Invalid Link Removed whenever my joints are sore, and some Invalid Link Removed before bed to make sure I get a good nights sleep.

Thanks for the great recommendations Jiigzz!
 
So you're telling me that I should take some Invalid Link Removed every morning in place of coffee, grab some Invalid Link Removed for before high carb meals, and take my Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed, and Invalid Link Removed before my workouts?

I suppose I could also take Invalid Link Removed whenever my joints are sore, and some Invalid Link Removed before bed to make sure I get a good nights sleep.

Thanks for the great recommendations Jiigzz!



Shill. :D
 
Just finished a bottle of Epic...2 pills preworkout 30 days. Zero results. Will not purchase again. X gels blows it away. Sorry maybe it works for some people but not this kid.
 
Just finished a bottle of Epic...2 pills preworkout 30 days. Zero results. Will not purchase again. X gels blows it away. Sorry maybe it works for some people but not this kid.

So in a months time you saw no improvement in any category? Seriously absolutely nothing?
 
So in a months time you saw no improvement in any category? Seriously absolutely nothing?

even billowing sockpuppets make gains until they tauten
 
So in a months time you saw no improvement in any category? Seriously absolutely nothing?


Well, he did get banned once before! Thats something! :D
 
those poll results in reality are virtually meaningless
Not in my opinion they are better then nothing, I would say your log is more meaningless then, which its not, Since it convinced me to buy folidrone, This will help people decide if they want to spend their money on this or something more effective like phosphatidic acid. You guys think its meaningless in the big picture compared to what (scientific studies) but it's better then logs which most people go buy and thats only 1 person usually who got free product. without something like this one might think the stuff is getting no bad reviews do to some of the posting in the forum. don't be haters on something thats pro consumer. It might not be perfect but at least its something. most people usually go by 1 or 2 reviews
 
those poll results in reality are virtually meaningless
I almost guarantee with more voters the percentage's would be almost the same
 
less meaningless for sure
 
Considering I can see who votes, I would say yes. :)
Can you post names, I wish i made this a public poll, I know a lot of the yes posts are company suck ups
 
Everyday I wake up, look at outside, take a sip of my nice butter placebro coffee, and wonder why oh why...people get so butthurt over the results of a supplement on someone they don't even know. :lol:
Do people make multiple accounts just to sway the vote?
 
Can you post names, I wish i made this a public poll, I know a lot of the yes posts are company suck ups


Nope, and you're wrong. Sorry.
 
Do people make multiple accounts just to sway the vote?


You have way more people signing up to be negative, than positive...and thats goes for almost anything on the internet.
 
Fightnews comparing your poll to toueys log is like comparing a cheap porn flyer to a dictionary. This poll is about as useful as something that's going to get used to wipe a bums ass. Touey made me want to try (-)-epi, you make me wonder is phosphatidic acid is even worth looking into. There are a lot more people having positive results using (-)-epi than people that aren't seeing any results. I'm almost inclined to believe that a lot of people not seeing results are severely lacking in the training or diet department. Surely not u having benched 455x10 easily "back when good prohormones were available" lol. But to be blunt this pool is crap.
 
Fightnews comparing your poll to toueys log is like comparing a cheap porn flyer to a dictionary. This poll is about as useful as something that's going to get used to wipe a bums ass. Touey made me want to try (-)-epi, you make me wonder is phosphatidic acid is even worth looking into. There are a lot more people having positive results using (-)-epi than people that aren't seeing any results. I'm almost inclined to believe that a lot of people not seeing results are severely lacking in the training or diet department. Surely not u having benched 455x10 easily "back when good prohormones were available" lol. But to be blunt this pool is crap.

I took epi and the claims about it being comparable to a prohormone are completely untrue. I wouldn't say my training and diet are crap. Though I did notice some effects from epi I wasn't blown away by it.
 
You have way more people signing up to be negative, than positive...and thats goes for almost anything on the internet.

Does it seem like a lot of people just signed up to vote or is it pretty much regular members?
 
Fightnews comparing your poll to toueys log is like comparing a cheap porn flyer to a dictionary. This poll is about as useful as something that's going to get used to wipe a bums ass. Touey made me want to try (-)-epi, you make me wonder is phosphatidic acid is even worth looking into. There are a lot more people having positive results using (-)-epi than people that aren't seeing any results. I'm almost inclined to believe that a lot of people not seeing results are severely lacking in the training or diet department. Surely not u having benched 455x10 easily "back when good prohormones were available" lol. But to be blunt this pool is crap.
Why are you so butt hurt over my PR's??? You think I'm lying because you could never do it? Nice logic, And obviously no there aren't "A LOT" more people having results as this poll shows and this is the place the epi hype pretty much started. On other boards the poll would be more in favor of it not working. Touey is just 1 guy (great guy though) and the poll is almost 100 people. How are 100 opinions useless compared to 1 guy?

And why bring up phosphatidic acid? It actually has multiple HUMAN studies backing it up not just a bunch of "check the logs bro". I'm not trying to bash epi as im using it but the point of the boards for me is to get the most possible opinions good or bad. Other are here to promote, some are here to bash to but I want the consumer to have as much info as possible before buying something. This is just 1 piece of info, sorry if it's not all positive.
 
:'-( oh no what am I ever gonna do with lower rep?!?

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Ur opinion sucks 95% of the time and no I don't believe ur bull**** claims, uve been asked to post pics before and couldn't figure it out. Anyone acting like they were soooo huge on old prohormones and can't get that way using AAS is a moron.
 
I took epi and the claims about it being comparable to a prohormone are completely untrue. I wouldn't say my training and diet are crap. Though I did notice some effects from epi I wasn't blown away by it.
I would not compare (-)-epi to a prohormone, that's silly and everyone responds differently to different compounds. I personally have not had a single person not have favorable results that I've given it to. Here u guys can see this pic is my 5'5" friend who went from benching 225 for 3 to doing 225 for 10 on one bottle of follidrone while cutting, he was only also using a preworkout and lost a considerable amount of bodyfat

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Well, he did get banned once before! Thats something! :D

Banned for trying to trade a Liquid Serm....has nothing to do with a product working. Every one hyped up Epic to be amazing and ppl gaining 20 lbs...I used it and lifted as I normally do and I didn't notice anything out of ordinary.
 
:'-( oh no what am I ever gonna do with lower rep?!?

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Ur opinion sucks 95% of the time and no I don't believe ur bull**** claims, uve been asked to post pics before and couldn't figure it out. Anyone acting like they were soooo huge on old prohormones and can't get that way using AAS is a moron.

What are you talking about I have posted pics multiple times and I don't use AAS?(never have never will). The furthest I'll go now a days is non methylated pro hormones. And you think I should "easily" be able to get back to where I was on heavy dosed methyl 1 test? Who's the moron? It's so funny how much sand you have in your vagina over my previous weight and accomplishments. Just know I take it as a compliment
 
any mod/admin or supplement company rep here has a clear financial stake in the "success" of any supplement. in the case of the mods/admins it's any supplement made by a company that is a site sponsor and in the case of the reps it's any company they rep for. if you can wade through all the b.s. on here and take things with a grain of salt, you can find some good info. but be wary and be skeptical and be an informed consumer.
 
aaaaand another neg PM is posted publicly on the boards...(sigh)
jesus man, suck it up, no need to make more drama from useless dribble to begin with
 
I think people forget that simply training hard gives you gains, When people take a supplement they tend to attribute any progress at all to the supp forgetting that you will make progress simply training hard. Add placebo motivation to that and you will improve even more.
 
any mod/admin or supplement company rep here has a clear financial stake in the "success" of any supplement. in the case of the mods/admins it's any supplement made by a company that is a site sponsor and in the case of the reps it's any company they rep for. if you can wade through all the b.s. on here and take things with a grain of salt, you can find some good info. but be wary and be skeptical and be an informed consumer.
Ya as a long time consumer myself I know what it's like trying to decide which sup is right for you. Thats why I think poll threads like this are helpful and we should do more. With the way the results are turning out here, I feel like even though epi is coming out on top some people would want this thread banned because it's to much negative info in 1 place. Maybe I'm wrong but thats how I feel.
 
aaaaand another neg PM is posted publicly on the boards...(sigh) jesus man, suck it up, no need to make more drama from useless dribble to begin with
suck it up? I was sharing how laughable the comment with the neg was. Sh!t when I first talked with touey he and I did not get along, I believe it was a religious debate, and I told him to take the muzzle off of the dog in his pic and put it on himself, which I will now apologize for haha. But the point being his log was actually helpful, and he seems like an alright guy and a straight shooter. If you think I care about my rep points enough to have to "suck it up" when I've been on this board as long as I have you have misread me completely
 
...I don't use AAS (never have never will). The furthest I'll go now a days is non methylated pro hormones. And you think I should "easily" be able to get back to where I was on heavy dosed methyl 1 test..
wait a minute - you said you have never done AAS...then you turn around and say you did the most toxic and hazardous AAS of all-time in M1T?

the ignorance is strong itt
 
wait a minute - you said you have never done AAS...then you turn around and say you did the most toxic and hazardous AAS of all-time in M1T?

the ignorance is strong itt
I understand but I did it over 10 years ago when it was legal and sold over the counter, When I say AAS I mean illegal injectables or pills

I didn't know methylated was so toxic I would never take anything like that again


You show your ignorance by assuming I don't know the difference because of 1 post, not everything is so black and white. There's a big difference buying something over the counter and injecting yourself with black market substances.
 
suck it up? I was sharing how laughable the comment with the neg was. Sh!t when I first talked with touey he and I did not get along, I believe it was a religious debate, and I told him to take the muzzle off of the dog in his pic and put it on himself, which I will now apologize for haha. But the point being his log was actually helpful, and he seems like an alright guy and a straight shooter. If you think I care about my rep points enough to have to "suck it up" when I've been on this board as long as I have you have misread me completely
not at all
I think it's highly amusing and childish for grown men to bitch about goofy, silly rep points, and anything said to them by another member via private forum communication, and get so worked up about it that they feel the need to post it publicly - for whatever reason they say it's for

you, anybody who does it - ridiculous

my .02 - it's not a matter of misreading you, I have been around many forums for many yrs, and when you post this crap publicly there is always the same goddamn "reasoning" floating around in your head as there is anybody elses
had it not bothered you, you would not have posted it....go think about that one for a minute
 
I understand but I did it over 10 years ago when it was legal and sold over the counter, When I say AAS I mean illegal injectables or pills

I didn't know methylated was so toxic I would never take anything like that again
Anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) are doping agents that are mostly used for improvement of strength and muscle hypertrophy.

AAS are taken orally or injected, typically in cycles rather than continuously.
 
not at all I think it's highly amusing and childish for grown men to bitch about goofy, silly rep points, and anything said to them by another member via private forum communication, and get so worked up about it that they feel the need to post it publicly - for whatever reason they say it's for you, anybody who does it - ridiculous my .02 - it's not a matter of misreading, I have been around many forums for many yrs, and when you post this crap publicly there is always the same goddamn "reasoning" floating around in your head as there is anybody elses had it not bothered you, you would not have posted it....go think about that one for a minute
u honesty think comments from fightnews bother me? How many of his posts have u read? The man is laughable. Trying to come off as a dbag towards me only makes you look like one sir. Who cares if it's in a private pm or on a public forum? Like I've said I don't give a fck about rep points, neg me right now mr maturity. I was in no way worked up but find it funny fightnews is ignorant enough to think I'm just sucking up to touey.
 
Anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) are doping agents that are mostly used for improvement of strength and muscle hypertrophy.

AAS are taken orally or injected, typically in cycles rather than continuously.
Point? I clearly said in my post Illegal injectables OR PILLS.....
 
u honesty think comments from fightnews bother me? How many of his posts have u read? The man is laughable. Trying to come off as a dbag towards me only makes you look like one sir. Who cares if it's in a private pm or on a public forum? Like I've said I don't give a fck about rep points, neg me right now mr maturity. I was in no way worked up but find it funny fightnews is ignorant enough to think I'm just sucking up to touey.
Your butt hurt is whats laughable, sorry you can't see it
 
no sir, you said this first:
I don't use AAS (never have never will).

then this when you were checked:
Point? I clearly said in my post Illegal injectables OR PILLS.....

you can say things and "mean" whatever your little heart desires, but when you use basic terminology you should really be on the same page & meaning as everyone else, so there is no miscommunication


THAT, dear sir, is the POINT



next chapter, we will cover what "prohormone" and "prosteroid" really mean, and how they are distinguished frm the term "AAS"

but understand - all of these things, are all steroidal in general, hence steroids
whether you take oral or inject, methylated or not -- you cannot qualify what you do as "better" or more "proper" per se than injectable use, if that is what you are trying to do....
 
u honesty think comments from fightnews bother me? How many of his posts have u read? The man is laughable. Trying to come off as a dbag towards me only makes you look like one sir. Who cares if it's in a private pm or on a public forum? Like I've said I don't give a fck about rep points, neg me right now mr maturity. I was in no way worked up but find it funny fightnews is ignorant enough to think I'm just sucking up to touey.
aaand there's the concurrent childish mentality of those who publicly post neg comments or PM communications:
the ever-present childish name-calling that accompanies such frivolous banter
(SIGH)

wow dude, I think u mad
frankly, I don't care for fightnews either, if you had read this thread in its entirety you may have picked it up..
so what? has nothing to do with how worked up YOU are getting over this ordeal, does it?

I have no issue with you personally, seen you around a bit, seem like a solid guy -
and if you think this is personal, well I don't know what to tell you, it's not
it is an example of ppl participating in an activity that I personally dislike and find laughable (posting negs publicly), and I was in the mood to say something about it...if you want to get hurt and take it personally, hey whatever floats your boat bud, good luck with your negativity and low self-esteem

I'm done here, take care
 
This is so embarrassing for everyone involved, this just looks like a bunch of grown men arguing over who has the shinier Pokemon cards.

It's clear fightnews wants to cause as much disturbance as he possibly can, but you satisfying him by arguing is just as bad.
 
no sir, you said this first:


then this when you were checked:


you can say things and "mean" whatever your little heart desires, but when you use basic terminology you should really be on the same page & meaning as everyone else, so there is no miscommunication


THAT, dear sir, is the POINT



next chapter, we will cover what "prohormone" and "prosteroid" really mean, and how they are distinguished frm the term "AAS"

but understand - all of these things, are all steroidal in general, hence steroids
whether you take oral or inject, methylated or not -- you cannot qualify what you do as "better" or more "proper" per se than injectable use, if that is what you are trying to do....

Thats not what I'm trying to do, I'm just stating what I have done in the past and what I do now in response to mr butt hurt calling me a moron and accusing me of using aas now? I think you need some back story on the situation since you are the third party.

See about 12 years ago when I used legal pro hormones (1ad 4ad methyl 1 test)I was 240-250 pounds, had a bench press of 455x10 military press of 375x10 and did dumbbell rows with a 240 pound homemade dumbbell. I mentioned this about 4 months ago in a thread and mr butthurt is so upset about it he follows me around and brings it up in all my threads and sometimes just posts. He wants video proof, lol. I'm now 210 and don't use that stuff anymore and he thinks I should "easily" be able to get back there I guess, I don't know why his vagina is bleeding so bad over it really.

Anyway in this very thread only a few posts back he said im a moron because I can't get back there with aas, Im not sure if he's accusing me of using it or saying I should use it to get back there? But whatever the point is I'm not using that stuff now and I don't/won't do illegal aas or methylated legal aas. I hope this helps clear up the situation for you since you were interested enough to jump in the conversation. Thanks for your input fenaflex is a ok in my eyes.
 
any mod/admin or supplement company rep here has a clear financial stake in the "success" of any supplement. in the case of the mods/admins it's any supplement made by a company that is a site sponsor and in the case of the reps it's any company they rep for. if you can wade through all the b.s. on here and take things with a grain of salt, you can find some good info. but be wary and be skeptical and be an informed consumer.


Thats funny since the majority of flack comes from other supplement companies.

But hey, thanks for knowing exactly what my intentions are
 
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