There are 150 lawsuits in process over Creatine Nitrate. Evidence can be introduced in any one of those suits. I agree completely though this is going to go on for awhile and as of right now creatine nitrate is out.You can say they weren't exhaustive but uh, this is nearing the end of the line for challenging the patents.
To force another round of re-examination or introduce further evidence would require another company to file another lawsuit, which would take another year to work out, and lead to another year of re-examination.
Like I said, there's potentially years to come on this issue
The degree basically means little to nothing since you still can't practice law until you pass the bar.
But you're not a lawyer unless you pass the bar... and that only qualifies you to practice in the state you passed the bar at
It's also supposedly to have some influence by the populace... supposedly, since supposedly we live in a democracy and our voices supposedly matter... supposedly
Traditionally, practicing lawyers help set precedents in the cases they are in. Law making is supposedly a group effort... supposedly
To get more technical, lawyers are really there to interpret the laws as well as provide client guidance/support/defense/etc.
Traditionally, practicing lawyers help set precedents in the cases they are in. Law making is supposedly a group effort... supposedly
To get more technical, lawyers are really there to interpret the laws as well as provide client guidance/support/defense/etc.
(hint: it's not your local congressperson)
Who exactly do you think drafts legislation
Not at all.
Coming up with the legislation is completely different than a staff lawyer drafting the legislation. The legislation essentially starts as off as an idea from some holder of a certain interest. However, you can't simply just present the idea like "Every street sign must now be red" and be done with it, correct verbiage must be used and research much be done and that's where a staff lawyer comes into play as their expertise is exactly both those things (cross referencing with existing law as well as understanding correct legal verbiage) along with the myriad of expert groups/individuals whom would review the draft of the legislation. But the idea for the legislation, the intent, the drive for the new piece of law, it's most likely not coming from a lawyer. That's not what lawyers do or are really trained to do. They interpret the law, they don't actually come up with new laws.
As an aside, this also leads into special interest groups and lobbyists. A lot of legislation is being driven from these groups and their lobbyists, let's be realistic here, it's highly doubtful any of the are lawyers or have ever studied law
Not at all.
Coming up with the legislation is completely different than a staff lawyer drafting the legislation. The legislation essentially starts as off as an idea from some holder of a certain interest. However, you can't simply just present the idea like "Every street sign must now be red" and be done with it, correct verbiage must be used and research much be done and that's where a staff lawyer comes into play as their expertise is exactly both those things (cross referencing with existing law as well as understanding correct legal verbiage) along with the myriad of expert groups/individuals whom would review the draft of the legislation. But the idea for the legislation, the intent, the drive for the new piece of law, it's most likely not coming from a lawyer. That's not what lawyers do or are really trained to do. They interpret the law, they don't actually come up with new laws.
As an aside, this also leads into special interest groups and lobbyists. A lot of legislation is being driven from these groups and their lobbyists, let's be realistic here, it's highly doubtful any of the are lawyers or have ever studied law
technically speaking drafting legislation IS writing the law.
a clever lawyer could make a draft appear to represent something, but word it so that it actually means the opposite...look at supreme court rulings, i could read a ruling handed down and not even know what side they ruled on, until it was interpreted into english from legalese.
So mixing is now ok.
The whole thing is good. No patent on creatine, leucine or arginine and companies can mix potassium nitrate with any other aminos. Didnt iForce have a product like that at one time?
It only appears to look like it's misrepresenting an idea if you don't read legalese. What a clever lawyer actually does is often times look for possible loopholes/flaws in existing legislature/precedents/etc. and possible stretch out the interpretation to aid in their argument. That's what a clever lawyer ultimately and typically does.Use patents are a whole different animal then pretending to have invented the compound to begin with. If there is no valid claim to the invention of the compound then anyone will be able to use it and any "use" patents will come under heavy fire.
Technically speaking, yes. However, legislations and laws at the end of the day starts off as an abstract idea. The idea is where the value lies. Everything else is just busy work to get the idea implemented.
A clever lawyer however would not actually be able to misrepresent an idea
Remember, there is a review process that goes on, it's not just lawyers on one side trying to confuse the lay people on the other side, both sides have (or should have) lawyers or folks that are well versed in legalese. A lawyer trying to be tricky with legalese is kind of a losing battle there since they are mostly dealing with their own kind on the other side.
unless both sides are trying to trick us non-legalese speakers...sorry i just see hidden agendas in everything legal/political.
Both sides are probably trying to screw us, the Joe Publics.
Would you two learn to quote please?
I think one could too. Most of these compounds were invented a long time ago. The properties of nitrates have been known for a long time as well. It would seem fairly easy to make the argument that using a non-patented ingredient like creatine nitrate or creatine mixed with potassium nitrate will do obvious and previously known things.I wonder how the new use approach will play out for them. I would think that one could make an argument that the new use is in fact inherent to the nitric oxide boosting nature of the nitrates, so would the new use be considered obvious? Nitrates boosting nitric oxide which leads to better blood flow which leads to better nutrient delivery regardless of it being an amino or not.
It's cool
But didnt they have a product that included it with other aminos or something? I could be totally wrong and misremembering it.
Cellucor actually does license from RK and then proudly displays the nitrate logos
MT does as well now
The betaine nitrate they use for their Platinum Betaine product, that's RK licensed betaine nitrate son!
The perks of a 90 hour work week your first few years in the field and crippling quarter million in student loans to go to a top 14 law school? Not jealous.
Having attended law school I wanted to comment on this topic. Becoming an attorney does not automatically come with a great paycheck and/or nice perks. Even after many years of ****ty hours and very mediocre pay (especially considering what you spent to earn a JD) you are not guaranteed to live an opulent lifestyle. There are many attorneys who never make it to a six figure paycheck (and for some that may be their personal choice depending on exactly how they chose to apply their degree). According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the median salary of attorneys in the US was $113,000, meaning 1/2 of attorneys in the US earned less than $113,000. Certainly 113k would be a nice paycheck especially here in West Michigan where it would go a long ways to a very nice lifestyle. However in other parts of the country that may not allow you to lease that new CL Class Mercedes every two/three years
Sorry to get off topic.
I guess it depends on the firm you end up at
I don't think you do end up with a quarter million in loans unless you decide to pay for your entire education exclusively with loans I guess it depends on the firm you end up at
If you already have the money to go to law school, then needing to go to law school to make money isn't a necessity
Nah brah, that's not how us Asians do it
