Black Lion Research:- New compound trial applications.

[brundel]

I'm not looking to log, as I am new to this forum, but can you tell the MOA of your new product, or are you waiting to release that with the product too? Also would this compound stack well with formeron during pct?

No I will not tell you.
It will stack well with anything on the market currently as far as i know with no issues.

 

[Jackedjack]

No I will not tell you. It will stack well with anything on the market currently as far as i know with no issues.

cant wait, your company never fails to amaze.

 

[brundel]

cant wait, your company never fails to amaze.

I re read my post. I didnt mean to be mean or harsh. Just a quick phone response at the gym.
I cant spill the beans. Testers need to know as little as possible so the results will be viable.

 

[JD261985]

I re read my post. I didnt mean to be mean or harsh. Just a quick phone response at the gym. I cant spill the beans. Testers need to know as little as possible so the results will be viable.

Brundel I know this sounds weird but I'm on 3 mg of boron and for some reason I'm freaked out about taking more. On one hand people say it's ok to do and on the other hand people say you shouldn't do it. I just need some reassurance was there any side effects when taking over 3 mg of boron? FFS I took a stack with oxyelite pro Original Version and tons of other supplements but for some reason my mind is fixated on boron. Taking 160 mg source naturals tongkat ali at the moment as well.

 

[TheMovement]

Bump! Interesting chance to try be apart of something great on AM folks, so far Im liking what im seeing, best of luck to those chosen

 

[timper]

If I didnt suck so bad with those requirements i wouldve totally been in lol but w/e in for the ride. Lets see what magic happens

 

[brundel]

Brundel I know this sounds weird but I'm on 3 mg of boron and for some reason I'm freaked out about taking more. On one hand people say it's ok to do and on the other hand people say you shouldn't do it. I just need some reassurance was there any side effects when taking over 3 mg of boron? FFS I took a stack with oxyelite pro Original Version and tons of other supplements but for some reason my mind is fixated on boron. Taking 160 mg source naturals tongkat ali at the moment as well.

I take 10mg every day.
Boron is pretty safe....In fact there is more than one supp on the market with 10 times that amount in the ingredient profile. So 100mg. I believe they even recommend twice daily administration on one of them. Im not saying 200mg is a good idea just that its super safe especially at 10mg.
I dont see any reason not too.

 

[brundel]

Bump! Interesting chance to try be apart of something great on AM folks, so far Im liking what im seeing, best of luck to those chosen

Hopefully this will fill up quickly. If not Ill start recruiting the guys who want in without the reqs.

 

[JD261985]

I take 10mg every day. Boron is pretty safe....In fact there is more than one supp on the market with 10 times that amount in the ingredient profile. So 100mg. I believe they even recommend twice daily administration on one of them. Im not saying 200mg is a good idea just that its super safe especially at 10mg. I dont see any reason not too.

Thank you for that extremely quick and reassuring response

 

[brundel]

Also it works.
When the new tongkat boron mix of ours comes out people will see.
Our brand of tongkat is far superior to anything else on the market. You really feel this stuff and at half normal doses.
The addition of Boron just is icing on the cake.

2 weeks perhaps.

 

[JD261985]

Also it works. When the new tongkat boron mix of ours comes out people will see. Our brand of tongkat is far superior to anything else on the market. You really feel this stuff and at half normal doses. The addition of Boron just is icing on the cake. 2 weeks perhaps.

Oh I definitely believe you. Just working with what I got at the moment until you come out with your product

 

[Docmattic]

I just finished all my supps except fat burners, preworkout and protein.

I have run multiple logs before. Happy to provide before and after pics (im currently in pre comp prep).

Only issue I have is that
1, I live in Australia (it may be expensive for you to post here)
2, I do not traditional deadlift with my current program (i do straight leg),
3, I am also not ever aiming for 10 reps and wont be until after my comp. At the moment I'm performing lactic acid based training with giant sets. Chest day would look like:

Superset
Bench press - 6 reps (4010 tempo)
Incline DB press - 6 reps (4010 tempo)
incline DB Flys - 12 reps (4010 tempo)
Seated incline clean and press - 20 reps (20xo tempo)

Volume also differs
week 1: 2 giant sets
Week 2: 3 giant sets
Week 3: 4 Giant sets
Week 4: 2 giant sets (weight up)

If i am feeling strong i will put the weight up on different weeks but the aim is to never drop below what i started on in week 1. If i got stronger while taking your supplement I would put up the weight as i felt i could.
If your happy with this style of training I would be happy to be apart of it. But, if for some reason I got crazy side effects I would stop.

 

[luckylefty811]

I just finished all my supps except fat burners, preworkout and protein. I have run multiple logs before. Happy to provide before and after pics (im currently in pre comp prep). Only issue I have is that 1, I live in Australia (it may be expensive for you to post here) 2, I do not traditional deadlift with my current program (i do straight leg), 3, I am also not ever aiming for 10 reps and wont be until after my comp. At the moment I'm performing lactic acid based training with giant sets. Chest day would look like: Superset Bench press - 6 reps (4010 tempo) Incline DB press - 6 reps (4010 tempo) incline DB Flys - 12 reps (4010 tempo) Seated incline clean and press - 20 reps (20xo tempo) Volume also differs week 1: 2 giant sets Week 2: 3 giant sets Week 3: 4 Giant sets Week 4: 2 giant sets (weight up) If i am feeling strong i will put the weight up on different weeks but the aim is to never drop below what i started on in week 1. If i got stronger while taking your supplement I would put up the weight as i felt i could. If your happy with this style of training I would be happy to be apart of it. But, if for some reason I got crazy side effects I would stop.

Is that mi40 ? I was thinking of trying that program.

 

[Docmattic]

Is that mi40 ? I was thinking of trying that program.

No its not but close. Its from hypertrophy max, another program by ben. How did you guess it was one of his?
Mi40 is worth every penny. Ive done it a few times. It changed my physique rapidly.

 

[horizons]

I wouldn't do this but I am definitely very excited to see what comes out and to see the trials done!

 

[luckylefty811]

No its not but close. Its from hypertrophy max, another program by ben. How did you guess it was one of his? Mi40 is worth every penny. Ive done it a few times. It changed my physique rapidly.

The sets and the tempo had me guessing. I may try it but I'm not sure yet I was planning on cutting starting in April I think I would have to go high carb during mi40 it looks intense. I have a good amount of fat I need to get rid of.

 

[lukehayd]

wow, a whole 50% off coupon. lol

It's a logging/ beta trial opportunity that you also get a 50% discount for other stuff. Other companies that run beta trials just give you the trial product and thats it. I'd say the 50% discount is very generous.

 

[abformulations]

It's a logging/ beta trial opportunity that you also get a 50% discount for other stuff. Other companies that run beta trials just give you the trial product and thats it. I'd say the 50% discount is very generous.

I most def agree ^^ I don't understand who would complain about that. Unless their poor ass sh!t

 

[lukehayd]

well You sign up then.

Kinda on the sidelines for now.....

 

[kbayne]

Kinda on the sidelines for now..... <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98315"/>

Damn bro. What happened?

 

[mountainman33]

its the opposite, only someone poor as **** would agree to take an unknown substance with unknown effects for the possibility of gaining a couple of pounds. thats why they use homeless people in drug trials. only ones desperate enough to do it. and they get paid.

Generalize much?

 

[mountainman33]

Kinda on the sidelines for now.....

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98315"/>

Holy sh!t! That's the worst paper cut I've ever seen!

 

[abformulations]

its the opposite, only someone poor as **** would agree to take an unknown substance with unknown effects for the possibility of gaining a couple of pounds. thats why they use homeless people in drug trials. only ones desperate enough to do it. and they get paid.

Lmao! That's funny. How is that being poor? It doesn't mean I don't buy supps or can't afford it because I agreed to take something I don't know what it is and what it can do. That's stupid of you to say.

Looking at your profile I already know how your dumb ass personality already is.

 

[abformulations]

its the opposite, only someone poor as **** would agree to take an unknown substance with unknown effects for the possibility of gaining a couple of pounds. thats why they use homeless people in drug trials. only ones desperate enough to do it. and they get paid.

Btw I can see your beer belly through the shirt on your avi. Might want to take an unknown supp and see if it'll help you.

 

[abformulations]

Kinda on the sidelines for now..... <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=98315"/>

Oh DAMNN

 

[brundel]

I just finished all my supps except fat burners, preworkout and protein.

I have run multiple logs before. Happy to provide before and after pics (im currently in pre comp prep).

Only issue I have is that
1, I live in Australia (it may be expensive for you to post here)
2, I do not traditional deadlift with my current program (i do straight leg),
3, I am also not ever aiming for 10 reps and wont be until after my comp. At the moment I'm performing lactic acid based training with giant sets. Chest day would look like:

Superset
Bench press - 6 reps (4010 tempo)
Incline DB press - 6 reps (4010 tempo)
incline DB Flys - 12 reps (4010 tempo)
Seated incline clean and press - 20 reps (20xo tempo)

Volume also differs
week 1: 2 giant sets
Week 2: 3 giant sets
Week 3: 4 Giant sets
Week 4: 2 giant sets (weight up)

If i am feeling strong i will put the weight up on different weeks but the aim is to never drop below what i started on in week 1. If i got stronger while taking your supplement I would put up the weight as i felt i could.
If your happy with this style of training I would be happy to be apart of it. But, if for some reason I got crazy side effects I would stop.

WHat comp are you prepping for? Physique/BB or Powerlift?
I ask because if its powerlift youll be much more likely to notice increases in strength.

 

[lukehayd]

Damn bro. What happened?

Answers here

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/general-chat/246338-just-got-out.html

 

[brundel]

its the opposite, only someone poor as **** would agree to take an unknown substance with unknown effects for the possibility of gaining a couple of pounds. thats why they use homeless people in drug trials. only ones desperate enough to do it. and they get paid.

Most people who know who we are and I am know Im not feeding them an unknown substance. Ive spend countless months of late nights researching this stuff. Ive read every possible study or mention of it. Ive eaten it myself and fed it to dozens of others. I know exactly whats gonna happen and I know the substance is 100% safe. THe chance for side effects is practically 0. In fact its more likely to improve overall health.
Now for most pharmaceutical studies the chance for side effects even life threatening ones are very high so......
Even then many are performed on university students or people suffering from a disease state the drug is intended to treat.

Since this is not a drug, its a plant extract.
THere is almost no chance of side effects
Its ALREADY BEEN well studied and we have already run trials
THere is almost 100% chance the active group is gonna see some amazing results....
Its probably worth it.

THe only reason I offer ANYTHING at all in compensation is because some guys will not get the active. So this cushions the blow of having to run a 4 weeks study with no results

 

[brundel]

Kinda on the sidelines for now.....

View attachment 98315

Damn dude

 

[abformulations]

wow, wtf are you personally attacking me for? i didn't say sh1t about you. and that avi pic is years old. i didn't even work out for 3 months prior to the pic. i'm around 210lbs right now and i dont have a beer gut. i cant even keep my pants up without a belt right now. and you didn't read all of my posts or you wouldn't be calling me a dumbass. i was making a joke about the coupon, but all of the logging and work will be for the financial gain of BLR. they will even use the results in the marketing.

I apologize. Felt like u attacked me. That's why. I'm sorry. I don't like to beef online lol. If you read it, it seems like u did attack me in some way.

It's cool, my bad

 

[abformulations]

no problem man. i didn't mean to come off as attacking you either. thats the problem with typed instead of verbal communication. more misunderstandings.

It's cool. Yes your absolutely right.

Let's lift and be happy lol

 

[lukehayd]

i was just making a joke about the coupon. i realize all of what you are saying. it just seems like a lot of work for the logger and all of the gain goes to BLR. but i'm sure you will find enough people willing to do it.
and good luck, i hope it turns out well.

Not trying to fight with you here but, how is this that much different than other companies running promos for logging opps? The companies do it to raise awareness of the product so they can make money. The loggers are " paid" for their time and effort by getting the product for free.

 

[hrdgain81]

I wish I could get in on this, especially after using Formeron, man do I love that stuff.

Unfortunately a torn rotator cuff will preclude me from throwing my name in the hat, that is unless you want to see how much better it makes PT for me lol. If you do, I will write you a book ... not just a log :Eyecrazy:

Can't wait to see how this progresses.

 

[brundel]

i was just making a joke about the coupon. i realize all of what you are saying. it just seems like a lot of work for the logger and all of the gain goes to BLR. but i'm sure you will find enough people willing to do it.
and good luck, i hope it turns out well.

Its true the profit with regards to currency will go to us and i assure you your right we will use this for marketing, however, us running this trial publicly benefits the whole supp community.
It gives community members a chance to be a part of the research. This stuff has never been used in a supp like this so people get a chance to help us break new ground.
It gives people an inside view on how we do things and a chance to participate.
It validates the product so we never have to listen to other company reps attempt to discredit our product.
Also it lets guys base their decision to purchase a product on public widely visible studies including the opportunity to talk directly to test subjects.

It helps us yes but Im really doing this for the community. I already know how this stuff performs.
I ate it. This is a way to prove it works.

And again like i said if it fails ill eat the loss and not go to production. A significant loss i could easily avoid by just making the product based upon internal research.

Hopefully what we are doing is seen as a positive.

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

When is this ending?
I have a month left on cycle. Wondering how it would work in pct.

 

[brundel]

I wish I could get in on this, especially after using Formeron, man do I love that stuff.

Unfortunately a torn rotator cuff will preclude me from throwing my name in the hat, that is unless you want to see how much better it makes PT for me lol. If you do, I will write you a book ... not just a log :Eyecrazy:

Can't wait to see how this progresses.

Sorry bro i think torn rotator cuff is gonna be a dq.
If this goes well we will likely continue to publicly test products so perhaps on the next one.

 

[willib]

Hope the trial works for you guys.Will always support this type of product test.Far better than most and if it works will buy.

 

[hrdgain81]

Sorry bro i think torn rotator cuff is gonna be a dq.
If this goes well we will likely continue to publicly test products so perhaps on the next one.

No worries, I was half joking anyway, pushing myself isn't really in the cards right now and that is exactly what I would do if I got to test something for you. Good luck with the testing, I'll be keeping an eye out for the logs.

 

[willib]

You making me want to try now or yesterday is not soon enough

 

[Docmattic]

WHat comp are you prepping for? Physique/BB or Powerlift?
I ask because if its powerlift youll be much more likely to notice increases in strength.

Its my first comp, aiming for physique.

I know in regards to the 50% off is generous, but I think the guys who get the vitamin pill should get given a bottle of whatever this is for free - if it goes to production. Just my thought.

 

[kisaj]

Oh stop already. If someone isn't cool with the generous 50% off deal, then don't participate. Simple as that.

As for me, I am set. I have established all my baselines as of this morning for 1RM and 10RM on BB bench, DL, and squats.

 

[mountainman33]

Oh stop already. If someone isn't cool with the generous 50% off deal, then don't participate. Simple as that.

As for me, I am set. I have established all my baselines as of this morning for 1RM and 10RM on BB bench, DL, and squats.

Some one is on the ball. Guess I should probably catch up....

 

[lukehayd]

Some one is on the ball. Guess I should probably catch up....

Cliché time:
Early bird gets the word!
or
Either shït or get off the pot!

 

[kisaj]

I can't lie guys, the timing is just good because I have been working to figure these out for the last few weeks. I'm not that on it. lol

 

[abformulations]

Its my first comp, aiming for physique. I know in regards to the 50% off is generous, but I think the guys who get the vitamin pill should get given a bottle of whatever this is for free - if it goes to production. Just my thought.

This would be nicee. Free bottle plus the 50%

 

[mountainman33]

I can't lie guys, the timing is just good because I have been working to figure these out for the last few weeks. I'm not that on it. lol

Shhhhhhh...... (whispering) I won't tell anyone.

 

[brundel]

Its my first comp, aiming for physique.

I know in regards to the 50% off is generous, but I think the guys who get the vitamin pill should get given a bottle of whatever this is for free - if it goes to production. Just my thought.

If you re read the opening post. It states that participants can have 50% off any order out of our current lineup OR 1 bottle of whatever they like.
So....they do have the opportunity to have a free bottle if they choose
They will just have to wait for it to be finished.

 

[horizons]

Btw I can see your beer belly through the shirt on your avi. Might want to take an unknown supp and see if it'll help you.

LOL

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Would you accept someone who is on PCT to test this?

 

[brundel]

Would you accept someone who is on PCT to test this?

How far along are you?
What exactly are you running for PCT?