^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Having to dose it at 4-5 caps a day can make it expensive..and no better than Hdrol at 50mgs
yes 2 past cycles of epi with great success. Those however were offseason cycles.
Hey guys was interested what you guys think. What would you say would be the best orals/ prohormones an athlete could take? not bodybuilding athlete, but sports athlete.
I was thinking lgi furza ? or turinabol?
wondering what you guys think thannks
Almost every oral can cause shin/calf pumps if dosed too high. At 50mg/day you shouldn't have any problems.Does Tbol, or it's precursor H-drol cause shin/calf pumps?
50mg Tbol or h-drol? I'm assuming you'd have to dose the h-drol higher to get the same results of Tbol?Almost every oral can cause shin/calf pumps if dosed too high. At 50mg/day you shouldn't have any problems.
I was referring to H-Drol.50mg Tbol or h-drol? I'm assuming you'd have to dose the h-drol higher to get the same results of Tbol?
50mg Tbol or h-drol? I'm assuming you'd have to dose the h-drol higher to get the same results of Tbol?
those conversion numbers are all bull****. halodrol is most likely active on its own.
Yes you would because hdrol converts to Tbol at around %15 I believe
those conversion numbers are all bull****. halodrol is most likely active on its own.
Hdrol is only slightly active before conversion.
Personally I think anavar and turinabol are better than winny. Turinabol is actually the shortest detection time if that's a concern. Anavar has similar results to winny but less sides and shuts you down less and is easier to recover from. There's a ton of info on turinabol, it's the compound the Germans used to dominate the Olympics in the 1960s. If you stack Tbol and var they are great, but it's not cheap.
yes it is slightly more anabolic, think of dbol without any bloat kinda. I don't gain much size off Tbol, I only take up to 40mg a day, it's very lean gains, have you taken it? Taking Tbol and var together is a great combo, the amount of weight you gain is very dry, winstrol is basically the most liver toxic oral steroid there is. I've personally taken all of these compounds and winny is last on my list. Most people choose winny because it's easier to find and cheaper. I'd do var alone before I did winny alone. Here, this was on Tbol/var, I def didn't get huge, just really rippedI know t-bol historically was used but it's a bit more anabolic too. If you JUST want to enhance performance without getting huge, I think winny or maybe low dose var are best.
^^Looking solid!
idk, I can try and guess one, that was a few years back tho, my avatar may actually be a few weeks before that then I dried out. If u guys want some "transformation pics" here's me in under 7 weeks using var only, it was honestly very hard for me to get that fat tho, I stay very lean. That was the fattest I could get and gave up on the transformation contest after 7 weeks because it was a 12 week contest and I knew I didn't get fat enough at the beginning anyways, and I tried, no lifting for over a month and eating like complete garbageAgreed, you wouldn't happen to have a before picture as well would you?
i usually do 75mg. I get a liquid and it is 50mg per dropper, so I would usually do 1/2 dropper 3 times a day and let it dissolve under my tongue.How much var were you running? 100 mg?
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Personally I think anavar and turinabol are better than winny. Turinabol is actually the shortest detection time if that's a concern. Anavar has similar results to winny but less sides and shuts you down less and is easier to recover from. There's a ton of info on turinabol, it's the compound the Germans used to dominate the Olympics in the 1960s. If you stack Tbol and var they are great, but it's not cheap.
Yea, not even going to read it, and just say its incorrect.
when it comes to chlorodehrdomethylandrostenediol (cdma for short) you will never find any in vivo data for conversion numbers, as its impossible to determine/estimate.
When you read someone saying a percentage converts to bla bla bla, they're just regurgitating incorrectly interpreted in vitro data from Patrick Arnold's research on 4-androstenediol.
Diols are able to bind with and interact with the androgen receptor, though not as strongly as their 3-ketone counterparts.
Tbol an hdrol are my favs.
How quick do you normally feel hdrol kick in? And What kind of dosage do you use man? Just curious.
Would tbol be a good kick starter for a test cycle like dbol would be? How would one dose it in that case?
I've normally run 50 dbol for 4 weeks with 500 of test e for 16 and finished with var 12-16.
Thinking about doing a var/Tbol combo next cycle. Have heard good things
Haven't decided yet. I'm either gonna do super dmz 2.0 1-4 with Tbol/var 3-8 or 100mg prop EOD week 1-8 with Tbol/var 1-8, only problem is I already have the dmz and want to try it, and I don't want to bloat up. I'm 210 and want to stay cuttable to 198 while getting stronger. A recomp kinda thing I guess. All I have is slin pins too, not sure how well I can pin gear with them. I've heard mixed reviews using them.With test? Or without?
Haven't decided yet. I'm either gonna do super dmz 2.0 1-4 with Tbol/var 3-8 or 100mg prop EOD week 1-8 with Tbol/var 1-8, only problem is I already have the dmz and want to try it, and I don't want to bloat up. I'm 210 and want to stay cuttable to 198 while getting stronger. A recomp kinda thing I guess. All I have is slin pins too, not sure how well I can pin gear with them. I've heard mixed reviews using them.