If u could create a pre workout what ingredients would use

raal

Banned
it could be a capsule or powder
mine would consist of

10 mgs of yohimbine hcl
400 grams of caffeine
20% Forskolin 25mg/125mg
Green Tea Extract
some bcaas
some beta alanine
some L-carnatine
Arginine AKG

what would you put in yours?
 
raal said:
it could be a capsule or powder
mine would consist of

10 mgs of yohimbine hcl
400 grams of caffeine
20% Forskolin 25mg/125mg
Green Tea Extract
some bcaas
some beta alanine
some L-carnatine
Arginine AKG

what would you put in yours?
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I hope the arginine isnt for nitric oxide production...

200mg caffeine
1000mg agmatine
6000mg cit mal
5000mg leucine
2000mg c-o-p
3000mg lclt
 
raal said:
it could be a capsule or powder
mine would consist of

10 mgs of yohimbine hcl
400 grams of caffeine
20% Forskolin 25mg/125mg
Green Tea Extract
some bcaas
some beta alanine
some L-carnatine
Arginine AKG

what would you put in yours?
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Seems like you've got one hell of a caffeine tolerance :P

On a serious note, in a perfect world mine would be:

Stims: a mix of caffeine, 1, 3 DMAA, and methyl synepherine (I would be on the low side as I am not very stim tolerant)
Pump: agmatine sulfate 500mg (if I took some with my PWO meal) or 1g (if I didn't)
Endurance: PLCAR 2g
BCAA: 4g leucine, 500mg isoleucine, 500mg valine

And I would flavor it with whatever covered the taste of the PLCAR and Leucine.
 
250mg caffeine
dendrobium extract from DS :)
1500mg agmatine
6000mg cit malate
2000mg kno3
30mg noopept
 
2.5g TMG
250 mg caffeine
1g agmatine
1g HICA

And effective doses of:
Leucine/potassium/creatine nitrate
Yohimbe
CDP
Ascorbic Acid
Amentaflavone

Things needed in larger amounts like Cit mal I would just use bulk powders if desired, keep the pre basic & lower g/serving
 
Why would you want to create a pwo yourself when you can rely on many companies to provide one...............with under dosed useless ingredients or under dosed ingredients that even if they do work will would be of very little benefit relative to cost?

I like your "product" hvactech as long as I can put it together with my own bulks and don't have to inject it.
 
Arachidonic Acid, COP, LCLT, Creatine mono, rhodiola, caffeine and cdp choline

Agmatine and peptopro also... man that would get expensive fast haha.
 
SauceMonkey22 said:
Why would you put Yohimbe with BCAA's? The resulting insulin secretion from the BCAA's would render the yohimbe useless
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As long as it isn't an excessive amount of BCAAs it would have negligible effect on Yohimbe effectiveness, as this is taken just before exercise. Cooper answered this for me before
 
SauceMonkey22 said:
Really? Interesting. How many BCAA's / timing with Yohimbe.

I always wanted to try fasted HIIT, with BCAAs prior, but figured LISS w/ Yohimbe would be better and no BCAA's.

Share the goodies!
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From a BP/heart rate perspective, HIIT + Yohimbine won't be for everyone.
 
raal said:
what would you put in yours?
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I'll buck the trend: I wouldn't. Why? Because awesome preworkouts exist, and maximum I'd simply add a single ingredient to an existing pre, if I felt it was necessary.
 
Agmatine
Gms
Lclt
BA

Ephedrine
Yohombine for early workouts
 
300mg caffeine
24mg ephedrine or 40mg of DMAA
3g betaine
3g l-citrulline
750mg CDP choline or Alpha GPC
500mg Rhodiola or 1g siberian/panax ginseng

Then a dose of 300mg of calcium citrate and potassium citrate each.

Forgot to mention, a ton of pink lemonade flavoring.
 
It seems that most of you guys have forgotten to add the obnoxious over saturated coloring to make the product legit. It's not real if the apple flavor isn't green, the fruit punch bright red or pink...
 
poison said:
I'll buck the trend: I wouldn't. Why? Because awesome preworkouts exist, and maximum I'd simply add a single ingredient to an existing pre, if I felt it was necessary.
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This. I am too lazy and busy to mix up four or five bulk powders/caps.

For me Katana right now has me covered from all angles, just add maybe a Carnitine salt or TMG and I am good to go.
 
bolt10 said:
This. I am too lazy and busy to mix up four or five bulk powders/caps.

For me Katana right now has me covered from all angles, just add maybe a Carnitine salt or TMG and I am good to go.
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Bioshock for me in this respect. Only thing additional I take with it is 2 grams of betaine. Done. Don't even need to take my joint supp afterwards.
 
bolt10 said:
This. I am too lazy and busy to mix up four or five bulk powders/caps.

For me Katana right now has me covered from all angles, just add maybe a Carnitine salt or TMG and I am good to go.
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haha yep for the most part i don't want to have 10 tubs of random stuff to mix every single night.....i just role with conquer and hemavol mixed...if need be i'll add creatine, agmatine or potassium nitrate

already have to prepare my protein shakes, intraworkout, and any pill form products i take
 
Mine would be

300mg caffeine
5g creatine
3g beta alanine
1g agmatine
2g alcar
leucine nitrates
6g citrulline
2g betaine
 
60mg dmaa
1.5g agmatine
1g kno3
500mg vitamin c
6g citrulline
300mg caffeine
2g lclt
2g alcar
2g cop
2.5g betaine
3.2 g beta alanine
3g MCC
5g mcts
 
1.5g Creatine Anhydrous USP
40mg DMAA
SCELETIUM TORTUOSUM EXTRACT (Areial Parts)
3g TMG - Betaine anhydrous
2g C.O.P
L-Taurine
500mg Agmatine
500mg Hordenine HCI
5g L-Citrulline
1.5g Acytl -L-carnitine
1.5.g LCLT
Amentoflavone
Caffeine anhydrous 200mg
Infinergy (DiCaffeine Malate-Methyltheophylline) 100mg
10mg Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)
Calcium Citrate 200mg
200mg Glucoronolactone
350mg AMP Citrate
300mg CDP Citicoline
Mucuna Pruriens (98% L-DOPA) 250mg
DL-Phenylalanine
200mg Higenamine HCI
300mg N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine
 
Holy expensive product, Batman!
 
Auslifter said:
1.5g Creatine Anhydrous USP40mg DMAA SCELETIUM TORTUOSUM EXTRACT (Areial Parts)3g TMG - Betaine anhydrous2g C.O.PL-Taurine500mg Agmatine500mg Hordenine HCI5g L-Citrulline1.5g Acytl -L-carnitine1.5.g LCLTAmentoflavoneCaffeine anhydrous 200mgInfinergy (DiCaffeine Malate-Methyltheophylline) 100mg10mg Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)Calcium Citrate 200mg200mg Glucoronolactone 350mg AMP Citrate 300mg CDP CiticolineMucuna Pruriens (98% L-DOPA) 250mgDL-Phenylalanine200mg Higenamine HCI 300mg N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine
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200mg caffeine
1000mg agmatine
1000mg Glycerol
100g L-Norvaline
6000mg cit mal
5000mg leucine
2000mg c-o-p
3000mg lclt
5000mg Creatine Nitrate
PEA 500mg
 
Auslifter said:
1.5g Creatine Anhydrous USP
40mg DMAA
SCELETIUM TORTUOSUM EXTRACT (Areial Parts)
3g TMG - Betaine anhydrous
2g C.O.P
L-Taurine
500mg Agmatine
500mg Hordenine HCI
5g L-Citrulline
1.5g Acytl -L-carnitine
1.5.g LCLT
Amentoflavone
Caffeine anhydrous 200mg
Infinergy (DiCaffeine Malate-Methyltheophylline) 100mg
10mg Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine)
Calcium Citrate 200mg
200mg Glucoronolactone
350mg AMP Citrate
300mg CDP Citicoline
Mucuna Pruriens (98% L-DOPA) 250mg
DL-Phenylalanine
200mg Higenamine HCI
300mg N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine
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wow...
 
Currently using:

10 G BCAA
5 G Creatine mono
3.2 g beta alanine
1 G agmatine
200 mg caffeine
sublingual B12

have to pick up some bulk citrulline malate. 6 G was always the best for me. The recommended 9 G made me feel spacey and nauseated
 
throneof said:
Currently using: 10 G BCAA 5 G Creatine mono 3.2 g beta alanine 1 G agmatine 200 mg caffeine sublingual B12 have to pick up some bulk citrulline malate. 6 G was always the best for me. The recommended 9 G made me feel spacey and nauseated
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Would you take the Citrulline with this combo? Could have been from too much vasodilation.
 
I've been thinking about trying this combo

Agmatine sulfate 1g
Beta alanine 2.5g
Creatine hydrochloride 2g
Taurine 1g
Dendrobium 500mg
Acetyl L-Tyrosine 500mg
Acetyl L-Carnitine 1g
Caffeine 200mg
Geranium, or 1,3-dimethylamylamine 25mg
Betaine 1.5g
Creatinol-o-phosphate 2g
 
2g COP
1.5 ALCAR
500mg vitamin c
600mg potassium nitrate
1.5g HICA
500mg agmatine
4g Citrulline malate
1g GMS


Additional:
100-200mg caffeine
2g beta alanine
3g creatine mono
 
Just started using this combo... Stim free.

5g creatine mono
7g bcaa
-combined- and used to wash down
1g creatine nitrate
2g arginine
1.6g beta alanine

The second half is from SAN brand CM2.

It works nice. Good pumps, and the creatine adds some strength help. I'm a huge fan of creatine nitrate btw- amazing vasodilation .
 
I'd say a powder pre workout with Uncut ingredients + leucine nitrate, agmatine, betaine and L-citrulline.
 
I also always take a large scoop of bcaa's pre workout, I just don't include that in my formula because I wouldn't put them in my product because they throw off the taste so much and the scoop size starts to get really big. Is this what the OP was asking? What we would include in a pre workout we made? Or just what's best to take prior to lifting?
 
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