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furuza 50 cycle concerns

zbharper44

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I'm gonna run a 5 week cycle of furuza 50 by lgi. It's my first cycle and I've done a ton of research. I'm 20 at 5'6 at 160 my goal is to lean out and add some size. I've lifted for three years and have a good diet. I'm powerlifting now. My pct will be revolution black and erase. Is that a good combo or am I missing something?
 
zbharper44 said:
I'm gonna run a 5 week cycle of furuza 50 by lgi. It's my first cycle and I've done a ton of research. I'm 20 at 5'6 at 160 my goal is to lean out and add some size. I've lifted for three years and have a good diet. I'm powerlifting now. My pct will be revolution black and erase. Is that a good combo or am I missing something?
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Too small to be juicing yet. Build a better base first. I'm 5,4" and I didn't start till I was 190lbs at 13% bodyfat
 
rphash49 said:
Too young, too small and piss poor pct
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so on the stroke of midnight, on his 21st bday, he will be ready?
zbharper44 said:
I'm gonna run a 5 week cycle of furuza 50 by lgi. It's my first cycle and I've done a ton of research. I'm 20 at 5'6 at 160 my goal is to lean out and add some size. I've lifted for three years and have a good diet. I'm powerlifting now. My pct will be revolution black and erase. Is that a good combo or am I missing something?
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can you get serm / why this compound / exp ?
 
GeekPoop said:
so on the stroke of midnight, on his 21st bday, he will be ready?

can you get serm / why this compound / exp ?
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Nope I think 21 is also too young.

But to be technical per forum rules he is too young to even post in this thread
 
Several people I've read reviews on liked this compound and that it was a very mild compound. And I've read a lot of people run similiar pcts and have great results. Just because you don't use Clomid or any of that dpesnt mean the pct is piss poor. And on my frame, 190 pounds would make me very very heavy. I'm at 11-12 percent bodyfat. I'm not trying to look like jay Cutler. It'll be several months before I decode to do a cycle. My meet isn't untill the fall. I'm competing in the 165 class.
 
zbharper44 said:
Several people I've read reviews on liked this compound and that it was a very mild compound. And I've read a lot of people run similiar pcts and have great results. Just because you don't use Clomid or any of that dpesnt mean the pct is piss poor. And on my frame, 190 pounds would make me very very heavy. I'm at 11-12 percent bodyfat. I'm not trying to look like jay Cutler. It'll be several months before I decode to do a cycle. My meet isn't untill the fall. I'm competing in the 165 class.
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So in other words, you disagree with ALL advice offered in this thread and will be doing your own thing. So why even ask for advice? Just want to reaffirm something you want to hear?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
So in other words, you disagree with ALL advice offered in this thread and will be doing your own thing. So why even ask for advice? Just want to reaffirm something you want to hear?
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I think that's why most (not all) post about cycles and questions are posted in the anabolics section.
 
No, I was just offering a rebuttal. I've read several forums and threads on this site, and prohormones forum. I'm trying to get all opinions and information I can. Some guys have great results running an over the counter pct. Some guys always use Clomid or a serm. I'm just trying to figure all I can.
 
zbharper44 said:
No, I was just offering a rebuttal. I've read several forums and threads on this site, and prohormones forum. I'm trying to get all opinions and information I can. Some guys have great results running an over the counter pct. Some guys always use Clomid or a serm. I'm just trying to figure all I can.
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Do you understand what a serm does in pct?

If you did you wouldn't cycle without one.
 
work smarter not harder.

from my favorite pct article:

" you don't even need to run a pct program, but, you also don't need to wipe your ass after taking a $hit, but it's a good idea"

Do you need a pct? no. Do you need a serm? no. Do you need to wear a condom when having sex with a crack whore? no Invalid Link Removed

But, all are a VERY GOOD IDEA
 
zbharper44 said:
I'm 20 at 5'6 at 160 my goal is to lean out and add some size.
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It sounds to me like you need to just focus on one or the other. A lot of people get caught up trying to do both and miss the overall goal. If you want to be a lean 200lbs then you need to except the fact that you may have to cut back from a fattier 215lbs to get there. If you know you have problems cutting then focus on leaning out now and then keep a close eye on your weight gain while you move up to where you want to be. What does your workout program look like or what workout program did you intend to follow while cycling?
 
I was at 181. I cut for 16 weeks down to 155. I went from 16 percent bf to 11-12. Monday's are lat days. Barbell rows and pull ups. Twice a week I do deadlifts, deficit lifts, or rack pulls. Squats and leg extensions super set with hamstring curls. Bench twice a week along with shoulders. I work hard. U also supplement properly. It's not like Ive been lifting for 6 weeks and just off the dome wanna juice. I'm also not aiming for super drol or anything like that. I also ran a natural anabolic cycle with erase, anabeta, and a couple other things.
 
zbharper44 said:
I was at 181. I cut for 16 weeks down to 155. I went from 16 percent bf to 11-12. Monday's are lat days. Barbell rows and pull ups. Twice a week I do deadlifts, deficit lifts, or rack pulls. Squats and leg extensions super set with hamstring curls. Bench twice a week along with shoulders. I work hard. U also supplement properly. It's not like Ive been lifting for 6 weeks and just off the dome wanna juice. I'm also not aiming for super drol or anything like that. I also ran a natural anabolic cycle with erase, anabeta, and a couple other things.
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I'm not questioning any of that but there is no point in cycling if your training and diet aren't right and your goals are all out of wack. Your training doesn't sound bad but what is your diet like? That cut you mentioned sounds like you lost a lot of weight to only drop 4% bf...
 
zbharper44 said:
I was at 181. I cut for 16 weeks down to 155. I went from 16 percent bf to 11-12. Monday's are lat days. Barbell rows and pull ups. Twice a week I do deadlifts, deficit lifts, or rack pulls. Squats and leg extensions super set with hamstring curls. Bench twice a week along with shoulders. I work hard. U also supplement properly. It's not like Ive been lifting for 6 weeks and just off the dome wanna juice. I'm also not aiming for super drol or anything like that. I also ran a natural anabolic cycle with erase, anabeta, and a couple other things.
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Let's say you've got a handle on diet and training and once you reach the ripe age of 21, you run this cycle. What's the problem with getting a SERM and running a proper post cycle? Do you know what Furuza/Orastan converts to?
 
That's why I was also considering 1 andro by redefine nutrition. It doesn't convert to test or estrogen. But a metabolite of androsterone. Reduces the possibility of gyno or anything similiar. 1 andro is pretty mild. I was extremely overweight. I was losing weight a little before I started my planned cut. My planned cut I started at 171 and ended up at 155. Right now I'm around 160 at about 11-12 percent. I lost a lot of fat, and I've been throwing the idea of juicing around for a few months. So I've been doing resesrch, reading forums and all I can.
 
My diet right now is about 800 calories over maintainence. About 1.3 grams of protein pre pound. Around 150-180 carbs and 60 grams fat.
 
And all of you clearly know what you are talking about. I'm just getting different opinions and responses from as many people as I can.
 
zbharper44 said:
And all of you clearly know what you are talking about. I'm just getting different opinions and responses from as many people as I can.
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My opinion is this... Figure what you want to do, which to me right now sounds like you want to bulk. Go balls to the wall with food and lifting heavy as hell in the gym with a solid routine (if you've been doing the same thing for a while switch it up, try wendlers 5/3/1 for a while). Throw in some ARA, anabeta, erase, etc. See where you're at after about 6 weeks and if you still aren't progressing enough then consider cycling. If you do end up cycling use a SERM in PCT and let us know what you plan on doing.


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I just came of an 8 week cycle of erase and anabeta, and progressed to a heavy powerlifting routine. I saw a little increase in strength but not a whole lot. One cycle I'm seeing a lot of people do is 1andro by redefine nutrition. What's your thoughts on 1 andro?
 
Great post jbry! I said pct wasnt needed here once and I swear I could here the crickets chirping. Unless you have an underlying issue your body will recover but your chance of maintaining gains are slim to none and you would feel like balls for a lot longer period of time.

So if you are going to cycle and put your body through the stresses of a cycle you better get something from it, as well as lessen the possibility of causing permanent damage to your endocrine system in my opinion. And running a good pct with a SERM will do just that.
 
And with that being said I will never cycle without a serm. And I won't condone anyone else do so either. I also insist you always having everything on hand before you even think about starting the cycle.
 
And real AIs are like letro and arimidex. erase is OTC so it's not that strong. So erase can NOT take the place of a a serm.
 
Coming from someone who uses, & started when they turned 21, & who trains in a powerlifting fashion more often than not, I'd hold off on the exogenous androgens. I wish I'd waited a few more years, accomplished more naturally & explored more avenues of training methodology & learned more about the body & nutrition before I'd started cycling. The gear makes your strength programming even more unpredictable, as you now have to figure out how to time the drugs up with your periodization/load progression, & figure out how to compensate if some of your strength falls off post-cycle.

Get your hands on some ArA & GMS, take em with creatine & a baby aspirin preWO for a couple months on a good percentage-based strength program & see if you can't put some bigger numbers up first. You might surprise yourself, & you can keep the juice as an ace in your pocket when you're a bit older & sure you're ready. Just my .02 from someone closer to your age & with similar lifting goals.
 
mw1 said:
Yes but you certainly don't need 5 products for pct. I see a lot of that lately and I hate to see people waste money :)
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I agree! Depending on your cycle just get some solid basics. go with a solid pct product/test booster and an e regulator/blocker. And your gtg. People over think cycles way to much, I'm one of those people sadly lol :)
 
zbharper44 said:
I'm gonna run a 5 week cycle of furuza 50 by lgi. It's my first cycle and I've done a ton of research. I'm 20 at 5'6 at 160 my goal is to lean out and add some size. I've lifted for three years and have a good diet. I'm powerlifting now. My pct will be revolution black and erase. Is that a good combo or am I missing something?
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IMHO epi sounds like it would fit your goals best. To lean out and also add some solid size and strength. Get a serm though. I like how everyone on here has to throw in "I didn't start till I was 400 pounds. Benching 250. your to small to run a cycle!" Lmao.
 
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