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PES Norcodrene ??

luckylefty811 said:
could i do 1 cap norco 1 scoop amino iv pre and then 1 scoop amino intra ?
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That is fine to do
 
EBF Inc said:
Likewise homie. If your in town tomorrow after 6 I gotchu on dinner

It's a bromance
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Did you find the answer to that text you sent me yesterday? I meant to respond but I suck at remembering to do things
 
JudoJosh said:
Did you find the answer to that text you sent me yesterday? I meant to respond but I suck at remembering to do things
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Yes and no, need full text. Found info on poliquins page about it with carbs and eaas post workout causing increase in igf1 levels.

I have ingredients for a post workout that'll just work so incredibly well to keep you lean and put on some size I can't wait to use it
 
EBF Inc said:
Yes and no, need full text. Found info on poliquins page about it with carbs and eaas post workout causing increase in igf1 levels.

I have ingredients for a post workout that'll just work so incredibly well to keep you lean and put on some size I can't wait to use it
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Message me the PMID or DOI and I will see if I can pull it for you
 
EBF Inc said:
Yes and no, need full text. Found info on poliquins page about it with carbs and eaas post workout causing increase in igf1 levels.

I have ingredients for a post workout that'll just work so incredibly well to keep you lean and put on some size I can't wait to use it
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Better than 20 grams of protein?
 
USPlabsRep said:
Better than 20 grams of protein?
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Things are just in addition to.

Main stream product. Not trying to oversell just trying to give something new to put out there

The study didn't include a protein source just eaa at .35g /kg/lbm. With carbohydrates vs carbs alone and a control

People still like that "insulin spike" for recovery and anabolism. But the study here shows increase in igf1. Didn't measure total igf1 levels tho

So I have 3 ingredients to add, to increase the insulin spike and then one ingredient was shown that it works better with elevated igf levels. And the other ingredient (shown only in rainbow trout , ugh) to increase protein synthesis as well.
 
EBF Inc said:
Things are just in addition to.

Main stream product. Not trying to oversell just trying to give something new to put out there

The study didn't include a protein source just eaa at .35g /kg/lbm. With carbohydrates vs carbs alone and a control

People still like that "insulin spike" for recovery and anabolism. But the study here shows increase in igf1. Didn't measure total igf1 levels tho

So I have 3 ingredients to add, to increase the insulin spike and then one ingredient was shown that it works better with elevated igf levels. And the other ingredient (shown only in rainbow trout , ugh) to increase protein synthesis as well.
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sounds like a great idea but I would use it an hour or so after consuming 20 grams of protein as an anabolic primer for the whole food meal...even used an hour before any whole food meal as an anabolic primer...
 
Although the label has the standard warning of course, is the amount of amentoflavone in Norcodrene enough to cause much inhibition of the P450 isozymes( CYP3A4 and CYP2C9)? With so many people on prescription drugs I wondered if this was of any significant concern.
 
BiO's initial impression:

Being cautious, I put ½ a cap of Norco in water and drank it down yesterday at 2pm (and yes, it tasted fine you taste-pansies). Starting "feeling it" in about 15 mins...elevated alertness, heart rate, and about 40 mins later I found myself humming along to the car radio which is only significant because I was feeling sh***y from lack of sleep, DOMS, and a few vertebrae being out of place. So, the mood aspect seems to be there which is a huge thing for me.

Took the dose before my mechanic appointment and I can say for sure that norco is a little like shrooms in that you DON'T want to take it and then sit around inside. Mechanic probably thought I was on meth because I was so chatty and antsy, lol. Ok, it's not that bad but I'll be using it for more active days and preWO.

Stim effect was still pronounced until about 10 pm when sheer exhaustion set in (currently only getting 5 hours of sleep per night due to my 2 month old daughter). After passing out on the couch, I went to bed at 11pm where I dozed for an hour but could still feel my heart pounding away(thanks yohimbe, 'preciate it). Rose at 1am to feed my daughter, then back to bed at 2am where I slept deeply (meaning with only 2 episodes of waking due to baby squeaking) until 8am. Could have definitely slept longer.

Appetite...hmm. Lately my appetite has been pretty weak. Being tired all the time makes me not feel like eating. Noticed some appetite suppression for the first few hours after dosing, then..holy cow did I get hungry. Ate a decent dinner of beef stir fry but was ravenous an hour later and this lasted until I went to sleep. Increased appetite would be a plus for me as I have a lot of trouble some days just making maintenance calls.


Overall, I liked the feel of the first ½ dose and look forward to testing it under a variety of more active situations. I will be returning to field work in about a week and we'll see what Norco can do for hiking long miles in sand dunes, working all night, and taking genetic samples from wildlife (can't be jittery, lol).
 
bioman said:
BiO's initial impression:

Being cautious, I put ½ a cap of Norco in water and drank it down yesterday at 2pm (and yes, it tasted fine you taste-pansies). Starting "feeling it" in about 15 mins...elevated alertness, heart rate, and about 40 mins later I found myself humming along to the car radio which is only significant because I was feeling sh***y from lack of sleep, DOMS, and a few vertebrae being out of place. So, the mood aspect seems to be there which is a huge thing for me.

Took the dose before my mechanic appointment and I can say for sure that norco is a little like shrooms in that you DON'T want to take it and then sit around inside. Mechanic probably thought I was on meth because I was so chatty and antsy, lol. Ok, it's not that bad but I'll be using it for more active days and preWO.

Stim effect was still pronounced until about 10 pm when sheer exhaustion set in (currently only getting 5 hours of sleep per night due to my 2 month old daughter). After passing out on the couch, I went to bed at 11pm where I dozed for an hour but could still feel my heart pounding away(thanks yohimbe, 'preciate it). Rose at 1am to feed my daughter, then back to bed at 2am where I slept deeply (meaning with only 2 episodes of waking due to baby squeaking) until 8am. Could have definitely slept longer.

Appetite...hmm. Lately my appetite has been pretty weak. Being tired all the time makes me not feel like eating. Noticed some appetite suppression for the first few hours after dosing, then..holy cow did I get hungry. Ate a decent dinner of beef stir fry but was ravenous an hour later and this lasted until I went to sleep. Increased appetite would be a plus for me as I have a lot of trouble some days just making maintenance calls.

Overall, I liked the feel of the first ½ dose and look forward to testing it under a variety of more active situations. I will be returning to field work in about a week and we'll see what Norco can do for hiking long miles in sand dunes, working all night, and taking genetic samples from wildlife (can't be jittery, lol).
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Haha great feedback, let us know how the next few doses are.
 
Mine will be here Tuesday. That's what I get for waiting until the last day to order :( can't wait to try it after all the feedback :)
 
Johnston said:
Is this available in the UK yet? I will happily accept a free one to try if there are any on offer? ;)
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I am the man to keep in contact with regarding this.

Our stock is due to arrive at the PES warehouse in Florida. The quicker our distributor order it the faster you will have it. :)
 
Btw, lol at Bioman saying "with a few vertebrae out of place".

Only a few? Quit your moaning. ;)
 
As far as the GDA benefits, would one have to take this 45 minutes before a meal?
Or does timing even matter if you're taking it twice a day ?
 
Drakee said:
As far as the GDA benefits, would one have to take this 45 minutes before a meal?
Or does timing even matter if you're taking it twice a day ?
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As long as the doses are spread apart according to recommendations. Optimally away from food, fasted several hours and 30+ minutes before another meal.
Also pre-workout would be best if you are fasted at this time
 
So yesterday I took two norco's and my appetitie was insane. Went to Olive Garden for a bday dinner and had flatbread chicken pizza and stuffed chicken Marsala smh. I could of ate more it was crazy.
 
This sounds dangerous lol! Is norcodrene better for a bulk then? I have a pretty crazy appetite most of the time anyway, been cutting for past few months, due for a bulk soon.
 
took first dose this morning (7am) on an empty stomach (2 caps). Feeling the stim effect a little bit right now. Ate my normal amount of breakfast a few minutes ago with no problem.
 
I find peoples appetite reactions to different things fascinating.

Anyone noticing any cool benefits pre-training?
 
bdcc said:
I am the man to keep in contact with regarding this.

Our stock is due to arrive at the PES warehouse in Florida. The quicker our distributor order it the faster you will have it. :)
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Is it going to be in the NP store?
 
I'm going to dose one cap with Hyde today, should be a good one.
 
raiderdude said:
took first dose this morning (7am) on an empty stomach (2 caps). Feeling the stim effect a little bit right now. Ate my normal amount of breakfast a few minutes ago with no problem.
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Stimulant effect became more pronounced since my first post. I am able to tolerate stimulants very well, I liked the feeling 2 caps of Norco gave me and it is a dosage I can handle. I could see 2 caps being too much for some that do not tolerate stimulants so best to know your body and work your way up with this product as it will def produce a noticeable change in feeling.
 
It's been three days and I've sent numerous emails but I still don't have my Amino IV.
 
I've noticed it takes a good 45 mins to kick in for me, then if I get excited about something or hear the right music etc my head tingles. Alternatively if I get pissed I get real pissed lol
 
BPjohn123 said:
No thanks lol
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Yea I know but I'm logging it for prosupps. I had to go very low on other Stims while on it. Well I did one cap norco w/mr Hyde I sweat my ass off during cardio. Minus the extra caffeine it felt like taking uncut but with more of a thermo feeling throughout the workout.
 
bdcc said:
Btw, lol at Bioman saying "with a few vertebrae out of place".

Only a few? Quit your moaning. ;)
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I'm a pain-wuss, I admit it. I can ignore up until the spasms start. Like any stim, Norco really lit up the spasm effect nicely. I's about to Hulk out and smash things.

I'm very interested in testing out a non-yohimbe version if it becomes available in the US. Like a lot of people, the other ingredients interest me more than alpha-Y. Perhaps offering Amentoflavone et al as single ingredient would be worthwhile. Amentoflavone + F95 might be real purty.
 
Daycrawler said:
It's been three days and I've sent numerous emails but I still don't have my Amino IV.
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I will look into this for you. PM me the details along with the email address you are sending to.
 
Daycrawler said:
It's been three days and I've sent numerous emails but I still don't have my Amino IV.
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Judo can take care of this. If you need anything else please let me know.

No degree of delay is acceptable so we will do what we can to find out where the issue is.
 
Well I have finally give Norcodrene a few days worth of try-out. Have to say it is a completely clean feeling with that same peace of mind I find with Alphamine. The appetite suppression is extremely strong for me which is surprising because most products don't even phase my appetite. Josh does it again! :)
 
Day 3 on Norcodrene.

Coop and PES nailed it. Feels really solid, clean, and long lasting. Running this plus Nimbus Reformfor 2 months. Can't wait for end results.
 
i didnt even eat after 2pm yesterday when i took it, insane i looked at my calories on myfitnesspal and i was like 600 cals below my goal for the day. my wife is also loving it as well. good thing i bought 4 bottles i knew she would want it. she took over my alphamine tub so i had to plan ahead this time lolol !
 
luckylefty811 said:
i didnt even eat after 2pm yesterday when i took it, insane i looked at my calories on myfitnesspal and i was like 600 cals below my goal for the day. my wife is also loving it as well. good thing i bought 4 bottles i knew she would want it. she took over my alphamine tub so i had to plan ahead this time lolol !
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YEAH BUDDAY! I can't wait to try the stuff out :D
 
I should get my wife to try this. She is stimulant-immune thus far. Caffeine in high amounts doesn't do anything, Alphamine at max dose did nothing, and she was fasted. She laughs at me for getting wired from any stim.

On the other hand, REM PM knocked her right the hell out for 16 hours lol.
 
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