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PES Norcodrene ??

Driven2lift said:
Fair enough,If you were to rate the stimulant effect compared to Alphamine? Or to a typical 200mg caffeine dose? Harder hitting/longer lasting?
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It's very different. I don't know how to describe it, you need to try it. It elevates mood unlike anything else out there though, even Alphamine
 
mr.cooper69 said:
It's very different. I don't know how to describe it, you need to try it. It elevates mood unlike anything else out there though, even Alphamine
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elevates mood that much? I'm very interested, more than I previously was

is this partially from the amentoflavone as was as the cirsium?
 
Mood improvement on Alphamine was actually one of the highest reviewed attributes.

Can't wait to try this. :)
 
mr.cooper69 said:
It's very different. I don't know how to describe it, you need to try it. It elevates mood unlike anything else out there though, even Alphamine
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Oh it will definitely be tried, everything about this is sounding great.

Thanks Coop
 
If Alphamine was my happy powder these will be my euphoric pills.....

PES making bolt a nicer guy every day. :biglaugh:
 
T-Bone said:
So this has the same "Pausinystalia Yohimbe (Bark)
Extract (SA2-A(TM))" <----(Copy and paste from nutraplanet) as alphamine?. That stuff made me feel like crap.
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International version for you then it seems, weird how different yohimbe extracts effect people, a lot of otherwise yohimbe intolerant users were ok with Alphamine
 
T-Bone said:
So this has the same "Pausinystalia Yohimbe (Bark)
Extract (SA2-A™)" <----(Copy and paste from nutraplanet) as alphamine?. That stuff made me feel like crap.
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Looks like it, maybe PES can give you an idea of dosage? I do not do well with Y at certain levels, but Alphamine I felt good at. I guess to be honest though I never went high with Alphamine dosing so I'll say Alphamine at the levels "I" used did not. I never went over 2 scoops.

In fact the Y was why I was "scared" to try Alphamine at first, but I have since found out that it only bothers me at higher levels because I can use Shred XT at 3 capsules, but not 4.
 
Geoforce said:
Looks like it, maybe PES can give you an idea of dosage? I do not do well with Y at certain levels, but Alphamine I felt good at. I guess to be honest though I never went high with Alphamine dosing so I'll say Alphamine at the levels "I" used did not. I never went over 2 scoops.

In fact the Y was why I was "scared" to try Alphamine at first, but I have since found out that it only bothers me at higher levels because I can use Shred XT at 3 capsules, but not 4.
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I believe the SA2-A should be dosed lower in Norcodrene vs Alphamine. It is unfortunate for those that can't handle Y, but there do appear less issues with this extract (which makes me even sadder for those who can't take this either). :(
 
Geoforce said:
Looks like it, maybe PES can give you an idea of dosage? I do not do well with Y at certain levels, but Alphamine I felt good at. I guess to be honest though I never went high with Alphamine dosing so I'll say Alphamine at the levels "I" used did not. I never went over 2 scoops.

In fact the Y was why I was "scared" to try Alphamine at first, but I have since found out that it only bothers me at higher levels because I can use Shred XT at 3 capsules, but not 4.
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Thankfully we had a lot of people who hate yohimbe say that they got on well with Alphamine.

It is hard to emphasise that our extract is not the same as other companies unless someone is a member of this forum. It is impossible to put across adequately on a label.
 
bdcc said:
Thankfully we had a lot of people who hate yohimbe say that they got on well with Alphamine.

It is hard to emphasise that our extract is not the same as other companies unless someone is a member of this forum. It is impossible to put across adequately on a label.
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I hate yohimbe, but love Alphamine. Although 2 scoops of Alphamine hit me really hard, I can't wait to see how Norcodrene does.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
As an added and not yet mentioned bonus, this can replace your preworkout. Cirisum japonicum = NO booster. Amentoflavone = strength enhancer. Energy and focus are out of this world with the product. ANd yohimbe increases fat loss while training. Can't ask for much else in a preworkout. For more on amentoflavone prior to the writeup, Neuron wrote an exceptionally accurate article on the ingredient: Invalid Link Removed
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If we wanted to could we add more yohimbine hcl to this? I'm up to 12.5 mg yhcl pre cardio right now and would like to try this product but also don't want to cut out my yohimbine.
 
jimbuick said:
So when is the preworkout coming?


Never?!?
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LMAO. PES needs to release some new products. Sick of them making us wait a week between insider e-mails. I mean what EXACTLY are they doing at that company? Those guys got to get it going hell January is almost half over!

/sarcasm :)
 
bdcc said:
Thankfully we had a lot of people who hate yohimbe say that they got on well with Alphamine.

It is hard to emphasise that our extract is not the same as other companies unless someone is a member of this forum. It is impossible to put across adequately on a label.
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Yes. It's also such a touchy thing and user dependent. I have no idea at what level it affects me. I would have to do some major experimenting to figure it out. All I know is 2 scoops of Alphamine=absolutely divine. 2 or 3 caps of Shred XT also ok. 4 caps....Y sides. I know I can handle your extract from Alphamine so I'm not worried, but I'm sure at SOME point it would give me issues.

And you're right, you can't put it on a label for those who don't browse the forums. It's an ingredient that gives me fear because I know I can't handle it at a certain amount, but with you guys I'm good unless I'd go overboard. I'll let you know when CL Alphamine hits because I will go overboard with that ;)
 
bdcc said:
Mood improvement on Alphamine was actually one of the highest reviewed attributes. Can't wait to try this. :)
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That's what I used mine for. I liked it enough for the mood, wasn't to interested in its thermogenic properties at the time.
 
What I'm curious to see;


Those who are sensitive to Yohimbine and products alike, what was your body fat when using it?

What was your calorie intake at per day and for how long prior to ingestion of the yohimbine?

Low calorie diets, and high body fat have a predisposition to increased alpha receptors

Now, the more alpha receptors to block the more catecholamines release?

What effects did/didn't you notice?
 
Everyone better be ready for tomorrow. Let's gooooo! Lol
 
Alasel said:
Same time as US release or after? We always get the 'softer' products but I understand that legislation.
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How different will the Australian version be? By the time our stupid government got through with Alphamine, the Australian version was not worth it IMO.
 
Myke17 said:
How different will the Australian version be? By the time our stupid government got through with Alphamine, the Australian version was not worth it IMO.
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Wouldn't it still have been one of the better options in Australia though?


If the US version is one of the best in the US market, and all of the products in the Australian market have the same restrictions, then shouldn't it still have been one of the most effective products on that market?
 
Geoforce said:
LMAO. PES needs to release some new products. Sick of them making us wait a week between insider e-mails. I mean what EXACTLY are they doing at that company? Those guys got to get it going hell January is almost half over!

/sarcasm :)
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Nope
just need to release the insider



:)
 
jimbuick said:
Wouldn't it still have been one of the better options in Australia though?
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No doubt, but not for the price they charge for it here.

Perhaps someone at PES can do me a solid and slap an Australian label on a few US versions of Alphamine and ship 'em over.....and while we are at it, we might as well add some US Norcodrene too!

A man can dream right? :D
 
After two doses (1 cap this morning and 2 pre-training), here's my report:
This stuff really gets you moving. I begrudgingly woke up early this morning (my dogs wanted to go outside) and decided to pop a cap to see what she could do for me. About 20 minutes later, I was very much awake. Not only was I awake, but I started cleaning up the house, which I hate to do. I did the dishes, swept the floors, and made food. The appetite suppression lasted about 2.5 hours with one cap. I popped two caps prior to training this evening and I was VERY tired on the way to the gym. By the time I arrived at the gym, I was not only wake, but I was also motivated to train. I can't comment on any of the strength potential or pump aspect as that wasn't the goal of the session. I can say that the energy lasted and I added in more volume to take advantage of the extra energy.
 
Appetite suppression?


No thanks. That's like robbing a man of PRs right there.


What are you guys gonna make next? A product that makes my beard fall off?!?


:eek:
 
I could use some of this stuff asap. I have a house to pack up since im slated to get out of the Marines next thursday and i could use the extra motivation. Maybe ill just pay Josh a visit and request to pick up my insider bottles on site lol.
 
Rodja said:
After two doses (1 cap this morning and 2 pre-training), here's my report:
This stuff really gets you moving. I begrudgingly woke up early this morning (my dogs wanted to go outside) and decided to pop a cap to see what she could do for me. About 20 minutes later, I was very much awake. Not only was I awake, but I started cleaning up the house, which I hate to do. I did the dishes, swept the floors, and made food. The appetite suppression lasted about 2.5 hours with one cap. I popped two caps prior to training this evening and I was VERY tired on the way to the gym. By the time I arrived at the gym, I was not only wake, but I was also motivated to train. I can't comment on any of the strength potential or pump aspect as that wasn't the goal of the session. I can say that the energy lasted and I added in more volume to take advantage of the extra energy.
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how long is the energy lasting?
 
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