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Erase/Erase Pro blood work

chedapalooza said:
Yea, the whole month of July I was texting my gf all day long telling her what I was gonna do when we got home. And I was very sensitive and got random wood through out the day, often bad timing and uncontrollable.

But in the 70s even, I wasnt bad, just not Constant. Body comp was a big big change though, lots of water at 70s
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Yeah I see a big decrease in sex drive in the 60's+ for sure.....I jumped on .5 adex ED this week. I was going to do .5 EOD, but I doubled my androgel dose for the next two months....so i figure I better double what I was going to do for an AI while on the double dose.
 
AnabolicHolic said:
Yeah I see a big decrease in sex drive in the 60's+ for sure.....I jumped on .5 adex ED this week. I was going to do .5 EOD, but I doubled my androgel dose for the next two months....so i figure I better double what I was going to do for an AI while on the double dose.
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I'm just glad to be off TRT. Clomid saved my azz but it was a tough 4-5 weeks from an emotional standpoint
 
Clomid absolutely breaks me down emotionally and mentally.....I am glad I never have to use it again, I don't like have all those over-emotional thoughts about why this girl said this to me, or whatever useless nonsense is being overblown by my mind, which has a mind of its own lol
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I honestly think the new one is better. The old version was great but it cornered itself from the market because too many people experienced joint issues. The new compounds have: 1. Roughly equipotent AI activity 2. Evidence of oral bioavailability in the murine model 3. Evidence of fat loss and multiple PPAR activation in the murine model 4. Evidence for lowering lipids and controlling blood glucose in the murine model (these get out of wack when E is too low) 5. Heavy evidence for joint support and recovery (this gets hampered when E is too low) I can go on Basically, AIs are everywhere. They all have distinguishing features. Formestane is a mild PH, arimistane helped leaning out, etc. In this case, we see "protection" from potential side effects plus hefty data on fat loss
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PPAR activity, lowering lipids, sounds like it may fall into the GW category?
 
I don't have a vendetta against anyone but I am on TRT and I need a AI that lives up to it's claims.
 
chedapalooza said:
.. They could either fake them entirely or say they took xyz but actually abc... It wouldn't really matter. Someone could take test and say they were taking a supp
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There was actually a company that did something very similar to that a few years ago :(
 
T-Bone said:
I'm interested in the new one because the original erase and also erase pro gave me extremely bad joints. Also within a few weeks of taking erase I'd get sick. Within about 5 days of taking erase pro I could barely walk. Even tried every other day dosing with EPRO and the pain didn't subside till a week after discontinuing the product. Correct me if I'm wrong Coop, common side effects of lowered estrogen include higher LDL and lower HDL, and also lower estrogen can "mess with" your immune system.
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I think that's pointed towards your cortisol being too low. Sick (low immune system) and sore joints. I am not 100% confident it lowers estrogen as well as it manipulates cortisol but I could be wrong.

I get none of those side effects nor "hormonal effects" from erase. I am on erase pro now at one for 3-4 days and no side effects. Doesn't mean it's not working, it just if I have high estrogen how come something (not really natural like erase though) like formestane can give me super sore joints, and effects of lowered estrogen and very high androgens and test in only the first week.

I am looking forward to the new formulated erase pro though. At least with PES that bring out the new stuff that no one else tries and many copy them. Now all they need to do is show bloods or evidence to their products so all the copying companies can follow their lead ;)
 
David Dunn said:
You know jack **** about AM!
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He is entitled to that opinion, right? And you don't do much to refute his point when a mod - someone who is supposed to be a voice of reason and order - tells a member they don't "know jack s hit."

Can we debate rationally anymore?

Monte
 
chedapalooza said:
I frankly wouldn't trust any bloods posted by anyone... They could either fake them entirely or say they took xyz but actually abc... It wouldn't really matter. Someone could take test and say they were taking a supp
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This is a good point.

Back when PES was tiny Josh used to use Erase alongside TRT (there are posts available on this). He could have posted his bloodwork but honestly the idea of someone from a company posting blood work doesn't prove anything. I was a customer at the time and I wouldn't have believed him lol.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see blood work for any product with pertinent readings but there are a lot of instances where a company has posted blood work and has been immediately criticised and speculated.
 
Monte Brogan said:
He is entitled to that opinion, right? And you don't do much to refute his point when a mod - someone who is supposed to be a voice of reason and order - tells a member they don't "know jack s hit."

Can we debate rationally anymore?

Monte
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His own robot-machine censored his post, I found that ironic. I'd fire the robot, OR look into using "jack squat" instead. Knowing me I'd probably fire the robot AND use jack squat, since it actually sounds better.
 
bdcc said:
This is a good point.

Back when PES was tiny Josh used to use Erase alongside TRT (there are posts available on this). He could have posted his bloodwork but honestly the idea of someone from a company posting blood work doesn't prove anything. I was a customer at the time and I wouldn't have believed him lol.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see blood work for any product with pertinent readings but there are a lot of instances where a company has posted blood work and has been immediately criticised and speculated.
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This is true.

There is lack of trust in the supplement industry
 
I should have pointed out that I think Mr. Cooper is a very intelligent guy and we can all learn from him but there are other very smart people here as well.
Also, I have no issues with PES. They are in the upper echelon of supplement companies but like most they have their hits and they have their less than hits. Maybe it is watching a bunch of grown men swoon over "snickerdoodle" that irked me.

Monte Brogan said:
He is entitled to that opinion, right? And you don't do much to refute his point when a mod - someone who is supposed to be a voice of reason and order - tells a member they don't "know jack s hit."

Can we debate rationally anymore?

Monte
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I must have touched a nerve with Dunn...or he doesn't know jack schitt about the forum he "moderates"
 
Vj63 said:
I should have pointed out that I think Mr. Cooper is a very intelligent guy and we can all learn from him but there are other very smart people here as well.
Also, I have no issues with PES. They are in the upper echelon of supplement companies but like most they have their hits and they have their less than hits. Maybe it is watching a bunch of grown men swoon over "snickerdoodle" that irked me.


I must have touched a nerve with Dunn...or he doesn't know jack schitt about the forum he "moderates"
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That snickerdoodle tastes good as a motherfcker though in milk with crushed ice blended up for 30 seconds......
 
Vj63 said:
I should have pointed out that I think Mr. Cooper is a very intelligent guy and we can all learn from him but there are other very smart people here as well.
Also, I have no issues with PES. They are in the upper echelon of supplement companies but like most they have their hits and they have their less than hits. Maybe it is watching a bunch of grown men swoon over "snickerdoodle" that irked me.

I must have touched a nerve with Dunn...or he doesn't know jack schitt about the forum he "moderates"
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You have to realise many of us don't have much excitement in our lives now so the release of a new protein powder flavour is an event that sadly excites us more than it should.
 
AnabolicHolic said:
That snickerdoodle tastes good as a motherfcker though in milk with crushed ice blended up for 30 seconds......
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saggy321 said:
You have to realise many of us don't have much excitement in our lives now so the release of a new protein powder flavour is an event that sadly excites us more than it should.
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LOL!

I sit at home in my bedroom just reloading retailer websites until sales pages appear.

My entire life revolves around it.
 
Vj63 said:
I should have pointed out that I think Mr. Cooper is a very intelligent guy and we can all learn from him but there are other very smart people here as well.
Also, I have no issues with PES. They are in the upper echelon of supplement companies but like most they have their hits and they have their less than hits. Maybe it is watching a bunch of grown men swoon over "snickerdoodle" that irked me.


I must have touched a nerve with Dunn...or he doesn't know jack schitt about the forum he "moderates"
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Vj, I agree with your comments. I think we need to welcome all viewpoints on this board. Cooper brings a lot to the table but the same can be said for Jiigzz, Deeb and many others. PA isn't usually on this board but he does reply if you write him on the Ergo section. There is no one, all-knowing guru in this business. My advice would be to interact with all of them and learn as much as you can.

Like you, I'm a fan of PES and buy their products. I will continue to do so b/c I like their commitment to innovation. But I also agree that this board is very PES-heavy in terms of posts and support. There are other solid companies on this board and I would welcome more threads about their products instead of a different Alphamine thread every 5 days.

I've been a member here for years but have not actively read/posted until the last 3 months or so. My opinion thus far has been mixed. But when I see a mod insulting and cursing at a member, it makes me wonder if this board really values differing opinions - or just what is popular at the moment.

Monte
 
You are all grasshopper d ick jabronis like the Miley Cyrus. I would break all of your backs and make you humble.
 
bdcc said:
LOL!

I sit at home in my bedroom just reloading retailer websites until sales pages appear.

My entire life revolves around it.
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I sit in my room researching ingredients and building different stacks for different goals, it's kinda a hobby when I have nothing else to do or when I can't sleep. Which is why (T BONE) u see me asking questions about 5 or 6 different products at once. Not bc I'm taking them all at the same time lol.
 
Monte Brogan said:
Vj, I agree with your comments. I think we need to welcome all viewpoints on this board. Cooper brings a lot to the table but the same can be said for Jiigzz, Deeb and many others. PA isn't usually on this board but he does reply if you write him on the Ergo section. There is no one, all-knowing guru in this business. My advice would be to interact with all of them and learn as much as you can.

Like you, I'm a fan of PES and buy their products. I will continue to do so b/c I like their commitment to innovation. But I also agree that this board is very PES-heavy in terms of posts and support. There are other solid companies on this board and I would welcome more threads about their products instead of a different Alphamine thread every 5 days.

I've been a member here for years but have not actively read/posted until the last 3 months or so. My opinion thus far has been mixed. But when I see a mod insulting and cursing at a member, it makes me wonder if this board really values differing opinions - or just what is popular at the moment.

Monte
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For what it's worth, David Dunn is someone who has a very strong moral compass in my opinion.

He isn't afraid to tell someone if they have something mistaken but he definitely isn't someone whose purpose is to insult people. He just calls a spade a spade and is actually very polite.

I think the moderation on this board is excellent because they leave everyone to themselves unless someone does something very wrong. A lot of boards are over moderated and remove freedom of speech.
 
bdcc said:
For what it's worth, David Dunn is someone who has a very strong moral compass in my opinion.

He isn't afraid to tell someone if they have something mistaken but he definitely isn't someone whose purpose is to insult people. He just calls a spade a spade and is actually very polite.

I think the moderation on this board is excellent because they leave everyone to themselves unless someone does something very wrong. A lot of boards are over moderated and remove freedom of speech.
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I agree.
 
bdcc said:
For what it's worth, David Dunn is someone who has a very strong moral compass in my opinion.

He isn't afraid to tell someone if they have something mistaken but he definitely isn't someone whose purpose is to insult people. He just calls a spade a spade and is actually very polite.

I think the moderation on this board is excellent because they leave everyone to themselves unless someone does something very wrong. A lot of boards are over moderated and remove freedom of speech.
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I'll take your word for it as I don't know him. But he was not polite in this instance and he did insult Vj. Maybe he was having a bad day.

Monte
 
Monte Brogan said:
I'll take your word for it as I don't know him. But he was not polite in this instance and he did insult Vj. Maybe he was having a bad day.

Monte
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someone probably pissed in his cheerios....that he was eating along with a select protein snickerdoodle shake he got for free from PES. :D
 
bdcc said:
For what it's worth, David Dunn is someone who has a very strong moral compass in my opinion.

He isn't afraid to tell someone if they have something mistaken but he definitely isn't someone whose purpose is to insult people. He just calls a spade a spade and is actually very polite.

I think the moderation on this board is excellent because they leave everyone to themselves unless someone does something very wrong. A lot of boards are over moderated and remove freedom of speech.
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The Moderation here is extremely advertising driven..no doubt about it
 
Monte Brogan said:
AnabolicHolic, I laughed out loud on that one. That was pretty good!
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If I didn't know the guys personality well enough by now, I'd figure to get an infraction for that one lol :D
 
Vj63 said:
I must have touched a nerve with Dunn...or he doesn't know jack schitt about the forum he "moderates"
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Or he already knows you were a member that was banned already. IP's don't lie, not matter how much you try and hide it.
 
AnabolicHolic said:
someone probably pissed in his cheerios....that he was eating along with a select protein snickerdoodle shake he got for free from PES. :D
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If you come out and say you are not going to follow the rules here and don't care, don't expect to be treated that well.


Just sayin...
 
Admin said:
If you come out and say you are not going to follow the rules here and don't care, don't expect to be treated that well.


Just sayin...
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It was actually that I don't care to hear from "that particular member" about "sourcing", when in fact, most of the time, the person he is chastising is NOT "sourcing" at all.....not that I don't care about the forum rules, I don't care about his non-moderator opinion on my post, nor his impending post that you can predict is coming (that indeed came within 5 minutes if you notice). If he wants to me a moderator, as he states he does, then put in a moderator application form...don't run around playing cyber-cop, esp in situations where members are just saying that they are using such and such supplement or RC chemical currently.
 
"I don't care about source posting or whatever before you chastise me LMFAO "

Your words.

You're lucky you didn't get banned on the spot.
 
Admin said:
"I don't care about source posting or whatever before you chastise me LMFAO "

Your words.

You're lucky you didn't get banned on the spot.
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That is because I knew he was going to falsely accuse me of it.....post the part where I say "hey such and such...." then post the other part above. Again, it was not caring about his opinion or his impending post on the subject....I made sure to address HIM in particular, and his well known accusation ("sourcing"). I think you are being overly dramatic at this point, it is not difficult to figure out what I was doing there, pretty much anybody would assume I was "not caring" about his opinion.
 
AnabolicHolic said:
That is because I knew he was going to falsely accuse me of it.....post the part where I say "hey such and such...." then post the other part above. Again, it was not caring about his opinion or his impending post on the subject....I made sure to address HIM in particular, and his well known accusation ("sourcing"). I think you are being overly dramatic at this point, it is not difficult to figure out what I was doing there, pretty much anybody would assume I was "not caring" about his opinion.
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"I don't care about source posting or whatever before you chastise me LMFAO "

Yeah, how could anyone mix that up. I mean, everyone knows "rules" means his "opinion".

:rolleyes:
 
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