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What are some ways to lower SHBG?
I was going to post nettle nettle and nettle lol. I am jumping on hdrol here soon....while also on nettle extract which jacks my free test up more than double. Guess im in for a real whammy of freed up test here shortly....never heard that about hdrol before.Stinging nettle root extract binds to SHBG thus rendering it unable to bind testosterone.
Proviron and Turinabol most certainly do, but there are other issues that make their availability a challenge.
I believe, but can't say for sure, that H-Drol is good for lowering SHBG
Please do not take my word on H-drol for SHBG reduction as being definitive; its not.I was going to post nettle nettle and nettle lol. I am jumping on hdrol here soon....while also on nettle extract which jacks my free test up more than double. Guess im in for a real whammy of freed up test here shortly....never heard that about hdrol before.
Pretty much anything with the root extract in it, make sure its an actual standardized extract with % of divanil or actives listed on the nutritional label. I've used division 1 and MN Test factor (both discontinued) as well as unleashed (still available). I just ordered some Divanex from NP, and I got a BUNCH of suggestions on other possibilities in supp forum....check for the thread about discontinued SHBG supps, or just search my username and it will be there. Too many suggestions to list really.....hey Anabolic what kind of "stinging nettles" did you use? Root, leaf etc,..and what dosage if you recall? Also did you encounter any negative sides with it?
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So long as its Stinging Nettle Root (and not Stinging Nettle Leaf), yes it will do some good.Ok Anabolic Tanx... and so i guess My Whole Foods version of nettles wont do Jack huh? lol Ok I will do just that and search the threds etc. One last q? I can order online, of course, but can ANY of those you listed be bought in Vitaminshoppe or any Bodybuilding Supp Stores? Also did you get good resullts as not only lowering SHBG per labs, but feeling the diff with more Free T available ?
VS or random nutrition stores probably have a house brand extract, and also probably carry brands such as NOW etc......but it will be hit and miss as far as them carrying the brand name products. Many are only sold on their company site such as Unleashed. That being said I'd just order from NP and get any brand from any company cheap, no sense in going to the shops and paying double or triple for brand names (the house brands are usually priced fairly of course). But nah, I didn't get any additional benefits from freeing up all that test, felt pretty much the same...then again my E2 was jacked up really high the entire time in addition to my free test being sky high...so that puts a damper on things, esp any benefits from the freed up test. E2 sucksOk Anabolic Tanx... and so i guess My Whole Foods version of nettles wont do Jack huh? lol Ok I will do just that and search the threds etc. One last q? I can order online, of course, but can ANY of those you listed be bought in Vitaminshoppe or any Bodybuilding Supp Stores? Also did you get good resullts as not only lowering SHBG per labs, but feeling the diff with more Free T available ?
Yes. back in the day everybody got a libido boost from the stuff, but there was no science as to why...obviously it was freeing up bound test and working in that manner....same with tribulus, everybody thought it raised (total)test, but in reality it was increasing libido in another way. So both of these ingredients were initially thought to increase total test due to their positive effect on sex drive, but they were doing other (good) things, just not what you might initially assume.Avenacosoides is also a good ingredient that increases free test. It is an extract of avena sativa.
avena sativaIs it "avens sativa" or "avena sativa"?
ThisFrom what I've been reading, "Avena Sativa" by itself does not lower SHBG. We are looking for "Avenacosides A and B".
sorry for the typo. it's avena sativa.Is it "avens sativa" or "avena sativa"?
LOL... Yup, pretty muchoats?
PMgamer... what if I am not on TRT any longer, (just did 6-8 weeks worth) but my SHBG has always been high on Quest labs and E2 coming in no lower than 17, but 28 on my last lab, Nov 2013, (4weeks ago) so I did buy some Stinging Nettle root in cap form and began supping with this? I also have An AI , ADEXIf your on TRT and have high levels of Estradiol your SHBG is going to be high binding up all the T in your body making your FT very low. It's not a good Idea to take things to lower SHBG you need to fix the way one good way is to take Aromasin this lowers your Estradiol very fast in a day and lowers your SHBG mine is go low. But Dr. says it's not a problem because it's the Aromasin doing this.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/exemestane-aromasin-king-anti-estrogens-628003.html
PMgamer... what if I am not on TRT any longer, (just did 6-8 weeks worth) but my SHBG has always been high on Quest labs and E2 coming in no lower than 17, but 28 on my last lab, Nov 2013, (4weeks ago) so I did buy some Stinging Nettle root in cap form and began supping with this? I also have An AI , ADEX
And I have taken in but not as of late. I have the symptoms of HIGH E2, popping joints,No REM sleep wood, sensitive erect nipples at times, And also an underarm/body scent i have never had before. So the guys who posted earlier, with their testimony on Nettles to lower SHBG slightly, is why I went that direction. Dont have the results Im looking for yet, but it is early in the process.
Sadly, it is a challenge to get.Proviron has a high affinity to bind to SHBG. I recommend a dose of 70mg ED for the first 7 days then drop it down to 25mgs ED.
I used to be able to get those tiny Schering bottles of Proviron 50mg with the tiny pills in them.....as many as I wanted, should have "stocked up" lolSadly, it is a challenge to get.
Yes; enough for all of us.I used to be able to get those tiny Schering bottles of Proviron 50mg with the tiny pills in them.....as many as I wanted, should have "stocked up" lol
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LMFAO, yeah, if I was like the Jesus Christ of AM.....I could turn a couple bottles of proviron into enough for the entire villageYes; enough for all of us.
idk if i would supplement with DHT, unless you dont care about your hair or prostateProviron has a high affinity to bind to SHBG. I recommend a dose of 75mg ED for the first 7 days then drop it down to 25mgs ED.
It is a scary proposition, supplementing with DHT.....but its more of a personal call you have to make after considering your own genetics. If you are prone to MPB? Steer clear. If you are prone to prostate issues? well that might be estrogen related, or it could be DHT related, there seems to be conflicting evidence lately on which is the culprit (or maybe both are to blame). I do know that Saw Palmetto extract formulas work to alleviate prostate pinching issues, not sure if it works on DHT or estrogen though, I've always figured it was working on the DHT. I worry less about the prostate than I do about the hairline, I guess I am more superficial than health conscious But I think it boils down to if you are prone to MPB, and that should be the decision maker right there. Then again, if you are prone to MPB, but like to shave your head anyways? Well then DHT can't do anything worse than shaving your head does to your hairline right? lolidk if i would supplement with DHT, unless you dont care about your hair or prostate
exactly how i feel as well, SP works on DHT levels btwIt is a scary proposition, supplementing with DHT.....but its more of a personal call you have to make after considering your own genetics. If you are prone to MPB? Steer clear. If you are prone to prostate issues? well that might be estrogen related, or it could be DHT related, there seems to be conflicting evidence lately on which is the culprit (or maybe both are to blame). I do know that Saw Palmetto extract formulas work to alleviate prostate pinching issues, not sure if it works on DHT or estrogen though, I've always figured it was working on the DHT. I worry less about the prostate than I do about the hairline, I guess I am more superficial than health conscious But I think it boils down to if you are prone to MPB, and that should be the decision maker right there. Then again, if you are prone to MPB, but like to shave your head anyways? Well then DHT can't do anything worse than shaving your head does to your hairline right? lol
That is what I've figured/known since a decade back when I first used it....but lately all the blame for prostate issues has shifted to estrogen so.....exactly how i feel as well, SP works on DHT levels btw
Yes, indeed.That is what I've figured/known since a decade back when I first used it....but lately all the blame for prostate issues has shifted to estrogen so.....
Thank you TCSlick for the info and to the others as wellProviron has a high affinity to bind to SHBG. I recommend a dose of 75mg ED for the first 7 days then drop it down to 25mgs ED.
Yeah absolutely. I use it every cycle.Thank you TCSlick for the info and to the others as well