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Snags gets ginormous with lean clean off-season dream bulk

Montego1 said:
Yeah it's thick when it's not digested but that changes once it's all broken down.
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hmmm well maybe i'm just full of old sh1t then :biglaugh:
and the fats are just breaking things up and getting the compacted stuff outta there..
I don't really mind, just thought it was something worth mentioning - something manly about letting loose a nice dark log, versus some soft fuzzy looking light brown thing that is miniscule and almost dainty looking in comparison
LOL

wasme said:
If you have the time and the desire, would like to see the exercises (set/rep ranges) you utilize - as it unfolds
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no worries - won't start this till next week, but yes I will note the protocol just for you sir :wave:
 
Could also have to do with coming off of hormonals (methyls specifically), for one, and liver function trying to return to normal
 
iparatroop said:
Could also have to do with coming off of hormonals (methyls specifically), for one, and liver function trying to return to normal
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thought about that too

Hyde said:
I'm very curious as to the exercise selection & volume specifically as well. Just sayin'
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no worries brah got you covered ;)


hey hey all is looking good today! :cool2:
everything on track very well to this point, bodycomp looking really pretty superb here this morning, veins peeking out in full force again (LOVE them ropes in my legs lulzz), no large weight reduction but seem to have leveled out 214.5ish for now

brought cals in ~4850 yesterday, really grooving on the new format...
I think this may turn out even better than I had anticipated

off day today, cals will be lower as I do not get postWO shake
we'll see how hunger pangs go -- truth be told, I did get a little hungry yesterday on these "reduced" cals
wasn't too bad, but def noticeable
 
Hunger pangs at 4,850/cals/day?! What an incredible and adaptable machine the body is.
You certainly don't look like the typical citizen who gets hunger pangs at these calorie levels, that's for sure ;)
 
sdunlimited said:
Hunger pangs at 4,850/cals/day?! What an incredible and adaptable machine the body is.
You certainly don't look like the typical citizen who gets hunger pangs at these calorie levels, that's for sure ;)
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right?
I didn't think I would be hungry, still eating those kinds of cals + more fats to keep me full..
couple guys in here called it tho - surprised, truly
but: the bigger you are/more muscle you have however, the more caloric sustenance you need
 
silly veinage

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steak the other night was just fabtastic..
this from last night pretty bomb too

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6oz turkey burger
2oz deli smoked turkey breast + 2oz rotisserie chicken
1/2c basmati rice
(not pictured: pineapple slice)
700cals
 
I heard this Snags guy isn't even that big
 
Oh and that he eats carbs like a bisssssshhhhhhhh ;)
 
Soooooo tempted to live up to my title and do a HUGE multi quote but since my iPhone jumbles them all together I will decline.
Snags, very impressive indeed. Cannot wait to see what happens when the injectables come into play. Gonna get silly for sure. Loving the diet the last few weeks, made me sick thinking about it but shyt it worked out fantastic.
Look forward to see how PCT treats you
 
iparatroop said:
Your veins have veins. Wtf.
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I laffed

thanks for that guys, yeah i'm a bit surprised myself at the profuseness of those things..I mean I've had veins to some extent down in the wheels for a good long while now in this process (entered during prep/hormones), then they faded a bit toward end of my mass run, then just couple days cleaning things up with lowered cals (and minus hormones for couple days now in PCT) they pop bigger than ever..
surely, flip in macros is playing a big role, I've been fairly low-fat in relation to overall cals for a long time now, and a little boost in fats has always seems to make me more veiny -- used to piss my brothers off back in the day, how I could maul a lb (or more) of steak and drink a glass of red wine during our w/e get-togethers, and while they were all bloated and whatnot, I steadily got more veiny as the night went on, esp by the next morning

whatever -- I hope they hang around for awhile, it's just too cool looking down and seeing them things :p
 
Hyde said:
I took Latin in highschool, so I'm totally lost here....
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latin sucks
was kinda like trigonometry - one of those things you learn that you never have to use in real life

I don't know what V-dog is talking about there anyway, unless my form is off...made sense to me



jimbuick said:
Wow.......


Keep that **** to PM bro.
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JB with the random out-of-the-blue silliness :shocked:

you guys are strange
now, if you'll excuse me I have to go get naked and cuddle with my blowup doll for awhile

ciao
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
silly veinage

steak the other night was just fabtastic..
this from last night pretty bomb too

6oz turkey burger
2oz deli smoked turkey breast + 2oz rotisserie chicken
1/2c basmati rice
(not pictured: pineapple slice)
700cals
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Wow snags that's some crazy vascularity you got going on there!
 
shake recipe of the day:
1 scoop Muscle Milk graham cracker
1 scoop vanilla whey concentrate (I am using hydrolysate here but anything will work as long as low carb/low fat)
1/2c oats
1 TBS almond butter + 1/2 TBS sunflower seed butter
1/2c almond milk + water
~600cals

snack of the day:
rice cakes and almond butter
mmmmmmmmmmmm tasty


that is all
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
¡qué perro más feo!

LOL....okay
how about el que then, more proper?
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I DON'T KNOW SPANISH!!! There I said it! I have literally zero idea what you've been saying I was just trying to look cool for you guys :((((

snagencyV2.0 said:
latin sucks
was kinda like trigonometry - one of those things you learn that you never have to use in real life

I don't know what V-dog is talking about there anyway, unless my form is off...made sense to me



JB with the random out-of-the-blue silliness :shocked:

you guys are strange
now, if you'll excuse me I have to go get naked and cuddle with my blowup doll for awhile

ciao
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I told you that I hate it when you call me that...:mad:

snagencyV2.0 said:
shake recipe of the day:
1 scoop Muscle Milk graham cracker
1 scoop vanilla whey concentrate (I am using hydrolysate here but anything will work as long as low carb/low fat)
1/2c oats
1 TBS almond butter + 1/2 TBS sunflower seed butter
1/2c almond milk + water
~600cals

snack of the day:
rice cakes and almond butter
mmmmmmmmmmmm tasty


that is all
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Everyone hates on muscle milk - I love it
 
Spaniard said:
I DON'T KNOW SPANISH!!! There I said it! I have literally zero idea what you've been saying I was just trying to look cool for you guys :((((
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ooooh :o
damn, I really thought you did speak it
I told you that I hate it when you call me that...:mad:
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oops my bad -- old-age
or alzheimers, something like that..

now what the hell were we talking about?
Everyone hates on muscle milk - I love it
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indeed
that's because the majority of guys do not understand nutrition, and think a protein drink should be all protein
these are typically your "protein whores" -- the ones consuming too much protein, and phobic about fat & carbs

I hate to refer to this STUPID saying, but: "if it fits your macros" really is appropriate, in this context of this conversation
as long as you understand what you are eating and how to structure things, MM is actually a pretty decent blend
 
wasme said:
Made us take french so I am in the same boat...
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au moins français est un peu utile

unless you are trying to be a biblical scholar or something, or answer inconsequential random trivia questions on Jeopardy, latin is pretty worthless



a pic of the sunflower seed butter I am using, just for gp
picked this up at Kroger

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I am flying in and out of Myrtle Beach, but my parents are down there for 3 weeks, and drove... I am going to have to do some shopping for goodies like this while I am there. They can bring it back for me. Any other suggestions fire away, because selection is just so much better south of the border.
 
wasme said:
I am flying in and out of Myrtle Beach, but my parents are down there for 3 weeks, and drove... I am going to have to do some shopping for goodies like this while I am there. They can bring it back for me. Any other suggestions fire away, because selection is just so much better south of the border.
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well simon, I mean I have already said couple different times what kinds of butters I lean on..not holding anything back

for the most part, I like to control the source of my fats; this is accomplished by eating lean meats and clean dry carbs
so, I supplement with almond butter (#1 go-to, and my favorite by far), sunflower butter & natty PB next, finally coconut butter the least..
I will also use heavy whipping cream (sparingly - but it tastes soo good in a shake!), and of course real butter -- nothing at all wrong with real butter, is one of the worst "myths" spread by nutritionists for the healthy individual to avoid this

and that pretty much sums it up, really pretty simple and easy to maneuver
 
Snags - it's awesome to see those leg veins at the calorie consumption you've been at. Curious about a couple things (as usual!)

- Do you feel your metabolism has 'sped up' or is capable of burning more fuel now due to your recent eating? For instance, is it likely that you could get into contest condition at a higher caloric intake than you did previously? I presume this will naturally be the case anyway due to gaining more muscular weight however, I'm curious if you may be able to consume more than what your next contest weight would typically call for.

- When eating with precision like you do, there are no leftovers. Every meal, bite, calorie has a purpose. When putting together your shopping list, are you creating it based off your macro needs or do other factors come into play as well? Again, I presume you reach for foods that you like or don't mind eating but I'm curious if you're calculating a consumption of say, 35,000cals per week and breaking that down based on your macro needs then purchasing X pounds of protein, X grams of carbs, etc

My schedule has kept me away for a couple days but I love to come back here and get caught up on the daily physical changes. Very cool to see!
 
sdunlimited said:
Snags - it's awesome to see those leg veins at the calorie consumption you've been at. Curious about a couple things (as usual!) - Do you feel your metabolism has 'sped up' or is capable of burning more fuel now due to your recent eating? For instance, is it likely that you could get into contest condition at a higher caloric intake than you did previously? I presume this will naturally be the case anyway due to gaining more muscular weight however, I'm curious if you may be able to consume more than what your next contest weight would typically call for. - When eating with precision like you do, there are no leftovers. Every meal, bite, calorie has a purpose. When putting together your shopping list, are you creating it based off your macro needs or do other factors come into play as well? Again, I presume you reach for foods that you like or don't mind eating but I'm curious if you're calculating a consumption of say, 35,000cals per week and breaking that down based on your macro needs then purchasing X pounds of protein, X grams of carbs, etc My schedule has kept me away for a couple days but I love to come back here and get caught up on the daily physical changes. Very cool to see!
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You just made me look at shopping a whole different way. I never considered "shopping by macros", but I definitely will now. I'll bet that it would save money at the same time, knowing that every portion of the shopping list is dedicated. Regardless of Steve's answer, I think you're post may have just opened some eyes. Thanks for that.
 
Ive started shopping by macros. I basically know how much of each meat, vegetable and carb I'm going to ingest each week due to how my diet is laid out. The only thing that changes for me really is "sauces" and seasoning. I rarely use sauces but that's besides the point. It really dose make shopping easier if you shop by macros and are not trying to put things together on the fly at the store.
 
speaking of shopping (ironically)..
so I just got back from grocery awhile ago, and as i'm going down the aisle I pass this old lady, looks like your typical grandma
she looks up at me as she passes by, does a double-take, and says "muscles!"
LOL it was too cute :p


sdunlimited said:
- Do you feel your metabolism has 'sped up' or is capable of burning more fuel now due to your recent eating? For instance, is it likely that you could get into contest condition at a higher caloric intake than you did previously? I presume this will naturally be the case anyway due to gaining more muscular weight however, I'm curious if you may be able to consume more than what your next contest weight would typically call for.
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yes, yes, and yes to all this....
certainly a person can influence their metabolism by total caloric ingestion -- but that is only a small slice of the overall pie that will induce metabolic improvement...everything I do pretty much is geared to keep metabolism humming at high level
firm believer that this is best way to keep/accrue muscle; flip side is, probably will die younger than if I didn't eat so much, like a candle burning out quicker cuz of a bigger flame
you wanna live big, lean and muscley? eat big and eat right, and work out
you wanna live long life? then eat like a bird and be a couch potato
quality of life is more important to me than quantity, every time

- When eating with precision like you do, there are no leftovers. Every meal, bite, calorie has a purpose. When putting together your shopping list, are you creating it based off your macro needs or do other factors come into play as well? Again, I presume you reach for foods that you like or don't mind eating but I'm curious if you're calculating a consumption of say, 35,000cals per week and breaking that down based on your macro needs then purchasing X pounds of protein, X grams of carbs, etc
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well interesting idea and way to look at this; but no, I do not do this at all
this does not mean your idea holds no merit; indeed, whatever works for you & your schedule, then go for it
me - i'm a bit of a borderline hoarder, and that extends to my pantry and fridge/freezer as well...couple of reasons for this really:

#1 - I like variety; when you get to a certain level of nutritional understanding, you can piece together any number of combination of foods, and come within almost identical range of cals as well as macros and just as importantly, micros
this just comes from time and repetition -- starts of with memorizing meal plans; then you develop a catalog of foods and their respective caloric/macro/micro values, which enables you to pretty much throw a meal together at will on the fly, and different every time
while I like repetition in some things, eating the same meal over & over again is not one of the areas I practice such

#2 - I typically shop 2-3x weekly, not just 1x...this is because I eat a lot of fresh fruits & veggies, including salad..and when I say I like things fresh, I really mean FRESH, not couple day old stuff
side-benefit of this is, I mostly avoid the big huge shopping days of stocking up for extended timeframe, which is the kind of shopping I really do not enjoy at all (takes too damn long, I get bored in there)

My schedule has kept me away for a couple days but I love to come back here and get caught up on the daily physical changes. Very cool to see!
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well we got a bromance brewing here I see, as I continue to be impressed by you sir
you ask the right questions, have a good sense of thinking outside the box, and just generally seem very intelligent and a quick-study

cheers
 
couple notes before I go on extended absence...
so got arms/abs in today, and I think I am calling it break time -- just feeling it is time, a bit run down
I been hitting it pretty hard for a good long while now, and not only do I feel break would be beneficial right now, it also frees up some time for me to finish small odds & ends in packing/finalizing move...plus couple demos tomorrow, fair amount of drive time will be all day affair, and move day is Tuesday ~830am

break just makes sense -- 5 days worth, way I figure it, will resume next Thursday after the crib is put back together

kinda have mixed emotions about the move the closer it gets (or maybe it's just the clomid making me melancholy)..I mean I been in the house for ~10 yrs, and if you think about it that is almost 1/4 of the time I been alive .... that's a long time

diet will remain on point thruout break of course, BUT I do plan on having a Subway Tuscan chicken melt for lunch tomorrow in Merrillville between demos -- that damn commercial has been driving me nuts
already spec'd out the nutritional profile on a footlong, not too shabby: ~800cals, 100/55/20

anyway, will catch you guys on the flip (next week)

and don't forget! you NW Indiana guys, come out to Vitamin Shoppe and see us tomorrow!
 
edje007 said:
Snags makes his own luck;)

Failure is never an option
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i like both of these :yup:


thanks all round for the wishes guys, appreciate the sentiment!
aaaand the move is complete (whew!) :tired: talk about some work, jeez man..
this elevator thing was no joke, required some ingenuity at times with some of my things -- specifically, we had to disassemble one of my weight racks because it wouldn't fit in there all assembled with attachments....move took freaking 6hrs, uggh

diet fell off a tad, but despite that and the lack of training, i look relatively the same, still veiny as hell, muscle tone intact
will still be a day or two before i jump back into training, got a lot of odds & ends to take care of and a sh1tload of stuff to put away/organize....moving is no joke

but --- i am going to really dig it here, bigtime :)
 
So the condo is a win?
If there's an elevator, there must be stairs and that will help during the next prep. Win.
Let's get some pics of the view.
Good to have you back.
 
iparatroop said:
So the condo is a win?
If there's an elevator, there must be stairs and that will help during the next prep. Win.
Let's get some pics of the view.
Good to have you back.
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yep, condo is win for sure
went shopping a bit this morning, first experience bringing groceries back in..
wasn't too bad, three trips tho (but i did buy 2 cases diet soda so..)
yes stairs are manageable for the purpose you insinuate, not long & straight but will work nonetheless
will get pics up when i can find my cam :D
 
still feeling a bit rough this morning, but wasn't gonna let that deter me from breaking back into things on the training side...all i got to say is: whoaa, was i rust-eeee! joints and bones were screaming at me profusely
decided to scrap the full-body plan, went with single main bodypart again (chest & abs), think i'll continue with that just change up parameters on some things is all....was a trip getting used to a much smaller area to workout in, adjustments were forced to be made in maneuverability around equipment and whatnot -- it's a pretty packed workout/office area (good thing i only need a smaller amount of space for the office stuff, since i can put a slew of supplies in the big walk-in closet attached)

anyway, ran thru a basic workout, nothing fancy, getting the muscle memory/fibers worked back into the flow
me thinks squats tomorrow are gonna be no fun at all :( oh well, i'll get back in da groove sooner or later

8 sets abs (non-weighted today)
4x10 flat bench BB
4x10 incline bench BB
4x12 DB flyes
3x10 cable standing flyes, 1-arm isolation

this was a piece of the motivational workout music this day
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basic leg day, again just easing myself back into things this first time thru the protocol

4x20/16/12/8 leg extensions
4x10 BB squats, ATG style
4x15/12/12/10 lying leg curls
4x20/16/12/12 standing BB calf raises, pause at top extension

in other news, I am sick
that is all
 
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