Snag gets FINAFLEXed on Road to Nationals

Montego1 said:
Yeah I would say you are on track :) back looks awesome and the delts and arms are really shredding up. Big time!
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thanks big guy :)


iparatroop said:
That carb meal looks like the right combination for peak week...just saying, it did you well.
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LOL..well, no -- my pre-show carb loading does not even minutely resemble that :p
but, is frighteningly effective thruout the process surely :yup:
very pleased I am with the leaning/bf loss; a bit thin-looking in some areas I thought tho..lots of time to correct the fullness & roundness of the musculature tho, still trying to get ahead of the game in the bf department right now (even tho that wasn't the og plan..things tend to change on the fly) :dunno:
 
Snags I've said it before and I'll say it again, you sir have never looked better IMO. Very full and lean. Cuts and striations are coming in. Your abs are the best I've seen them. Very excited to see the next 7 weeks.

You're crew (fina freaks) are just that, freaks!!! I admire each and every one of you clowns :-).

Thanks for all you doods do
 
Do you not incorporate alot of fish in your diet or do I just not notice it? I notice alot of turkey,chicken,beef and the occasional salmon but I think ive only noticed tilapia a time or two in this log. As someone who eats alot of tilapia it has me curious lol It seems like a lot of guys I see dont really add it in until like 2 weeks out maybe? And then switch ti fish only. Is there a reason behind that? Forgive me if im mistaken or way off base here
 
Danb2285 said:
Do you not incorporate alot of fish in your diet or do I just not notice it? I notice alot of turkey,chicken,beef and the occasional salmon but I think ive only noticed tilapia a time or two in this log. As someone who eats alot of tilapia it has me curious lol It seems like a lot of guys I see dont really add it in until like 2 weeks out maybe? And then switch ti fish only. Is there a reason behind that? Forgive me if im mistaken or way off base here
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My opinion, which is probably worthless, is this.
It's very low fat low cal protein. I will not eat tilapia, it is a garbage, farm raised fish. That being said I ate 48 oz of cod a day for 21 days or so. This helped me keep fats below 25g a day with <60 g carbs yeah I got lean quick but felt like **** and looked like ****.

I do not think its necessary if one comes in stage ready at two weeks out. All I can assume is that I wasn't lean enough thus taking such a drastic measure.

Snags is far more knowledgable on this than me but I find this approach should only be used if you need to lean out quickly.

Please correct me if I'm wrong
 
bean5er said:
My opinion, which is probably worthless, is this.
It's very low fat low cal protein. I will not eat tilapia, it is a garbage, farm raised fish. That being said I ate 48 oz of cod a day for 21 days or so. This helped me keep fats below 25g a day with <60 g carbs yeah I got lean quick but felt like **** and looked like ****.

I do not think its necessary if one comes in stage ready at two weeks out. All I can assume is that I wasn't lean enough thus taking such a drastic measure.

Snags is far more knowledgable on this than me but I find this approach should only be used if you need to lean out quickly.

Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Definitely not a worthless opinion bud. I value any input I can get. TBH it being a low calorie low fat protein is my biggest reason I eat it. If I can eat 8 oz of it and keep my fats low and proteins high and actually feel like I ate something Ive always considered that a win lol. Especially at > 50g of fat a day. And id hardly say you looked like sh1t coming into your show. You looked awesome heading into peak week I thought :)
 
bean5er said:
Snags I've said it before and I'll say it again, you sir have never looked better IMO. Very full and lean. Cuts and striations are coming in. Your abs are the best I've seen them. Very excited to see the next 7 weeks.

You're crew (fina freaks) are just that, freaks!!! I admire each and every one of you clowns :-).

Thanks for all you doods do
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yup - quite the FREAKy crew we got goin on, fo sho :stooges:
I have much respect for them as well, and am very proud of the group we've put together here, and what we strive to do - from the heads of the company, on down
very thankful and flattered on your sentiment my friend - on behalf of all of us, we thank you

Danb2285 said:
Do you not incorporate alot of fish in your diet or do I just not notice it? I notice alot of turkey,chicken,beef and the occasional salmon but I think ive only noticed tilapia a time or two in this log. As someone who eats alot of tilapia it has me curious lol It seems like a lot of guys I see dont really add it in until like 2 weeks out maybe? And then switch ti fish only. Is there a reason behind that? Forgive me if im mistaken or way off base here
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I really have no issue nor preference for fish..salmon is cool, love the fat micronutrient portion, tastes okay but is tuff to fit in a diet when you are aiming for lower fat, and have preference to get other fats in at the same time..
tilapia does taste good I agree; but the farm-raised variation as beans mentioned is prolly among the most disgusting dirty animals in existence, right there with pigs imo..eating other fishes poop for sustenance does not enthrall my desire to partake..wild tilapia not the same, but still..

and as you mention: I have a preference for beef - period! and I utilize turkey breast mainly for my low-fat approaches, works best for me (plus I enjoy it! well at least while I can use salt & pepper LOL)..chicken breast brings up the rear, only really enjoy that when it is grilled/marinated, or grilled and seasoned very well

I utilize tuna for lower fat, only for convenience

bean5er said:
I ate 48 oz of cod a day for 21 days or so. This helped me keep fats below 25g a day with <60 g carbs yeah I got lean quick but felt like **** and looked like ****.
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and is there any wonder? :p
that is not a good combination, at all
I do not think its necessary if one comes in stage ready at two weeks out. All I can assume is that I wasn't lean enough thus taking such a drastic measure.
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we tend to do some strange things, in a knee-jerk reaction to realizing we are not lean enuff as planned..is a bb'ers worst nightmare

allow enough time to be pretty much show-ready ~2 weeks out = problem solved
I cannot get any clearer than that
the unfortunate reality is: typically only the best of the best, ever follow this planned approach
:shrug:

Danb2285 said:
Definitely not a worthless opinion bud. I value any input I can get. TBH it being a low calorie low fat protein is my biggest reason I eat it. If I can eat 8 oz of it and keep my fats low and proteins high and actually feel like I ate something Ive always considered that a win lol. Especially at > 50g of fat a day. And id hardly say you looked like sh1t coming into your show. You looked awesome heading into peak week I thought :)
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50g fat daily is a temporary phenomenon for you dan - generally speaking, there is absolutely no reason outside of prep, to engage in such course..fats are INDEED a good thing, and strategically utilized can certainly be utilized for both gaining and cutting approaches
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
yup - quite the FREAKy crew we got goin on, fo sho :stooges:
I have much respect for them as well, and am very proud of the group we've put together here, and what we strive to do - from the heads of the company, on down
very thankful and flattered on your sentiment my friend - on behalf of all of us, we thank you

I really have no issue nor preference for fish..salmon is cool, love the fat micronutrient portion, tastes okay but is tuff to fit in a diet when you are aiming for lower fat, and have preference to get other fats in at the same time..
tilapia does taste good I agree; but the farm-raised variation as beans mentioned is prolly among the most disgusting dirty animals in existence, right there with pigs imo..eating other fishes poop for sustenance does not enthrall my desire to partake..wild tilapia not the same, but still..

and as you mention: I have a preference for beef - period! and I utilize turkey breast mainly for my low-fat approaches, works best for me (plus I enjoy it! well at least while I can use salt & pepper LOL)..chicken breast brings up the rear, only really enjoy that when it is grilled/marinated, or grilled and seasoned very well

I utilize tuna for lower fat, only for convenience

and is there any wonder? :p
that is not a good combination, at all
we tend to do some strange things, in a knee-jerk reaction to realizing we are not lean enuff as planned..is a bb'ers worst nightmare

allow enough time to be pretty much show-ready ~2 weeks out = problem solved
I cannot get any clearer than that
the unfortunate reality is: typically only the best of the best, ever follow this planned approach
:shrug:

50g fat daily is a temporary phenomenon for you dan - generally speaking, there is absolutely no reason outside of prep, to engage in such course..fats are INDEED a good thing, and strategically utilized can certainly be utilized for both gaining and cutting approaches
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Thanks for the clarification man. I should have said >50g fat for now. I understand the needs for fats and quite frankly I think I would lose my mind at > 50g for an extrnded period of time lol. Again thabks for clearing it up may have been a goofy question just have been wondering lately.
 
Not trying to derail or hijack by any means, but I will be following the "stage ready at two weeks out protocol" for my next and every show I do.

I felt I was slightly behind or at worst on time but I asked to slowly start making adjustments at the 7 week mark to no avail. Literally nothing changed from 21 weeks out to 2 weeks out. Then boom, cuts drastically which was my worst fear. Nonetheless what's done is done and I learned a valuable lesson which almost ruined it for me as I was told it IS a necessary evil to getting lean. I now know this is just one mans opinion.

Thanks snags
 
sure bro, and never any worries on hijack in snags thread :D
hell man, I think I hijack my own thread myself at times...

sounds good on next approach; I will never say bad things about someone I do not know in the business, but I what I can say here is agreed, sounds like he really did not have a clue what he was doing
everyone has their own approach tho; some are simply more effective than others

for comparison purposes: no two preps for me have ever been the same, not even close really

sure I have a general guide & principles I use when guiding someone else, but even then man, changes have to be done by sight & progression, not a cookie-cutter approach..it takes time (and repetition) to develop that
 
bean5er said:
Snags I've said it before and I'll say it again, you sir have never looked better IMO. Very full and lean. Cuts and striations are coming in. Your abs are the best I've seen them. Very excited to see the next 7 weeks.

You're crew (fina freaks) are just that, freaks!!! I admire each and every one of you clowns :-).

Thanks for all you doods do
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Big thanks for the props bro! I believe we have something very special here as well!
 
bean5er said:
Snags I've said it before and I'll say it again, you sir have never looked better IMO. Very full and lean. Cuts and striations are coming in. Your abs are the best I've seen them. Very excited to see the next 7 weeks.

You're crew (fina freaks) are just that, freaks!!! I admire each and every one of you clowns :-).

Thanks for all you doods do
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We love you tooooo bean!
 
Looking good snags.

I do not agree with the big traps = on gear though.

My brother and I are both natty and have big traps.. So much so that people always ask if we wrestle, mentioning our traps.

Then again we do tons of upper back work (no standing bb shrugs those are for noobs)

Also that farm raised **** is disgusting. Do not consume it if you can help it
 
aceroni said:
Looking good snags.

I do not agree with the big traps = on gear though.

My brother and I are both natty and have big traps.. So much so that people always ask if we wrestle, mentioning our traps.

Then again we do tons of upper back work (no standing bb shrugs those are for noobs)

Also that farm raised **** is disgusting. Do not consume it if you can help it
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I know plenty of natty people with what I call bs traps. I could still see a lot of people getting gains there on aas cycles though. For most, it's room for improvement. And barbell shrugs are for noob? O.o damn I just been getting into those!
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
sure bro, and never any worries on hijack in snags thread :D
hell man, I think I hijack my own thread myself at times...

sounds good on next approach; I will never say bad things about someone I do not know in the business, but I what I can say here is agreed, sounds like he really did not have a clue what he was doing
everyone has their own approach tho; some are simply more effective than others

for comparison purposes: no two preps for me have ever been the same, not even close really

sure I have a general guide & principles I use when guiding someone else, but even then man, changes have to be done by sight & progression, not a cookie-cutter approach..it takes time (and repetition) to develop that
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Agreed I'm smart enough to understand that no prep will be the same. I guess I will just be more motivated to make the proper adjustments to be ready at 2 weeks out. The whole experience just baffles me to this day. Going to sit down with him real soon and discuss.

Thanks for all your insight

3clipseGT said:
Big thanks for the props bro! I believe we have something very special here as well!
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Indeed

Montego1 said:
We love you tooooo bean!
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Ahhhh bromance

aceroni said:
Looking good snags.

I do not agree with the big traps = on gear though.

My brother and I are both natty and have big traps.. So much so that people always ask if we wrestle, mentioning our traps.

Then again we do tons of upper back work (no standing bb shrugs those are for noobs)

Also that farm raised **** is disgusting. Do not consume it if you can help it
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I think what we are trying to say is that, it is usually very apparent with guys who are "on" that their traps grow. I've seen it not only in myself since starting TRT and experimenting with EPI. In fact since then, I've had comments from my wife, about my ass being bigger and my traps. My cousins and my dad mentioned my traps/shoulders looked like they ballooned up.

I've also seen it in plenty of others.

This is not to say that one has to be on gear to have rad traps. Ace you sir have a great work ethic and it shows bud. I'm not shocked in the least bit that your traps are prominent.

Again not trying to argue at all buddy just sharing my thoughts and experience.

:-)
 
IrishSoldier said:
I know plenty of natty people with what I call bs traps. I could still see a lot of people getting gains there on aas cycles though. For most, it's room for improvement. And barbell shrugs are for noob? O.o damn I just been getting into those!
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Yes, there are much nor effective (and safer) ways to build the upper traps than slapping a million plates on a bar and using heavy body English to get a millimeter of ROM.

Fat man rows, face pulls, ytw, deads, and my new favorite: snatch grip high pulls.

Once I started implementing them into my routine my traps blew up.



bean5er said:
Agreed I'm smart enough to understand that no prep will be the same. I guess I will just be more motivated to make the proper adjustments to be ready at 2 weeks out. The whole experience just baffles me to this day. Going to sit down with him real soon and discuss.

Thanks for all your insight

Indeed

Ahhhh bromance

I think what we are trying to say is that, it is usually very apparent with guys who are "on" that their traps grow. I've seen it not only in myself since starting TRT and experimenting with EPI. In fact since then, I've had comments from my wife, about my ass being bigger and my traps. My cousins and my dad mentioned my traps/shoulders looked like they ballooned up.

I've also seen it in plenty of others.

This is not to say that one has to be on gear to have rad traps. Ace you sir have a great work ethic and it shows bud. I'm not shocked in the least bit that your traps are prominent.

Again not trying to argue at all buddy just sharing my thoughts and experience.

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No argument here brother just an educated discussion (or in my case uneducated-I know little to nothing about anabolics)

But I do agree the traps and Delts of those who are on tend to be large, was just saying correlation =/= causation

And my ass has doubled in size since beginning heavy squatting on the regular
 
aceroni said:
Awesome. Your legs are cutting up nicely.
If you can get a shot of them from the side that'd be cool.
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gracias amigo - but sorry on the pic man..my kid took off a bit ago, he's my photographer this w/e :D I don't see this till after he left

but - I did get a few pics, post-tennis
not the best in the shade a bit, sun was funny out there
(tennis ball in my pocket looks kinda odd lol)

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dint get any of the legs because my knee wraps were still on att :p
 
Impressive vascularity throughout the midsection already. You're gonna be crazy lean come showtime. Great progress so far sir. Even vascular in the upper abdominal region. I think you're ahead of the game so far. Keep killing it.
 
iparatroop said:
Impressive vascularity throughout the midsection already. You're gonna be crazy lean come showtime. Great progress so far sir. Even vascular in the upper abdominal region. I think you're ahead of the game so far. Keep killing it.
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i'm surprised you caught those veins man..well maybe not - you have to be the most observant dude I have ever seen, I think
yeah bro - there's actually veins running down from top to bottom of abs, in the middle (long bastards too)..this cool one that starts near almost my back and wraps around to the middle of my abs, near the middle vertically, runs horizontally (would be on R side in pic, side that is shaded of course)
honestly - I don't know that I've ever seen veins like this ever - let alone at this far out from show and for as lean as I am (been leaner for sure)..never been too veiny of a guy overall, but always have to be like ~6% before they DO start coming in
things are going pretty well :)
 
The advantage of having an iPhone is that the zoom feature is pretty good and the clarity of photos is also pretty good. It makes it pretty easy to judge my own progress as well.
 
Sick. There is still sooooo much time left before the show. Should be amazingly lean.
 
hmmm..didn't sleep much last night, is okay tho since I have a bunch of things to take care of; Monday's are usually my busiest days

couple changes this week, both on diet:
1) cals will drop from regular 2750/day to 2650 daily; and
2) hi-carb days or carb-load last meal feedings (whichever I am employing att) will be trimmed to 2x weekly rather than once every 3 days

I thought long and hard about this (prolly what kept me up last night, as I dint make this decision formal till breakfast time)..
changes are still happening, but I still need to pick up the pace a bit, do not want to fall behind the curve; hence with that in mind, I decided to be proactive about it and make relatively small modifications -- while still creating enuff of a ripple to not only maintain but slightly elevate things in regards to fat-loss

a am pretty happy with the plan, expect to see some notable improvement this week..
btw - weight upon rising STILL at 195 :)







random odds & ends, with little to do with anything...
1) Tyson gay put a different spin on being busted with banned substances, dint he? no adamant "I did not do it" or "the test was flawed/the courier had my test too long before delivering" -- this one was "I trusted someone else, and they let me down" ..
:think:
2) a Cleveland Indians season ticket holder caught 4 (yes FOUR) foul balls at a game the other day..odds of doing so are 1 in a trillion
how rare is that? condsider: the odds of having your wife give birth to quintuplets are an awesome 40,960,000 to 1, by comparison..
3) and big congrats goes out to my boy timmy lincecum, who tossed his first career no-hitter Saturday night at the seemingly washed up age of 30..it was a remarkable 148-pitch effort, from one of the slightest guys in baseball..

you all have a wonderful Monday - get your week off to a great start
 
Looking great Snags! Detail in upper back is amazing, your chest is starting to get the grainy look to it veins in inner biceps area looking great! Things are moving along nicely. I think you upcoming changes are going to do you very nice. Oh yeah I see the quad vein too. Looking very good for 7 weeks out and I know you will continue to look very good for however far out you are.
 
yeah chris - if there was ever any doubt before, there is none now that I gonna be sub-3% bf come show time
not that there was any doubt on my end (mmmm well maybe little bit lol), but I am now FULLY confident I can guide this thing in..I've fallen into a nice little routine with my foods, and am already planning how to make the adjustments that await down the road -- diet, for all intents and purposes, is pretty much a set course (easy as hell to adjust downward now, and I will enjoy going back UP at the end) ;)
of course, all things change..this is snag talking, c'mon i'm the addict of change ahaaa; but I really do not foresee it, unless my anabolic course deters me ie maybe I have to up the cals even before I think I need/want to..
we'll see!


anyway: so yesterday due to the split-training, I consumed the majority of my allotted carbs a bit too early..last 2 meals needed to be both smaller than usual and less carbs as well....voila

5oz 96% lean beef
5oz chunk light tuna w/ salsa
3oz lobster
bell pepper
~375cals

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and then here a lil bit ago:
off day today, carbs are lower in preparation for carb-load tonight (~125g this day total before a 175g carb meal last feeding)
9oz chicken breast, grilled (TASTY seasoning I threw together too, this may have been THE BEST chicken breast I have ever had - srs)
grilled bell pepper/onion
steamed greens
not pictured, side bowl of 1/2c black beans
~385cals total

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^^ this entire meal was absolutely to die for :food:
 
iparatroop said:
The advantage of having an iPhone is that the zoom feature is pretty good and the clarity of photos is also pretty good. It makes it pretty easy to judge my own progress as well.
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I'm on my PC w/ a 40 inch hd screen, and was thinking the same thing about your ab veins. Was curious if I'd notice them but didn't even have to look. Bustin' out snags. You're gettin' shredded my man.
 
zoomed in on the iphone..viewed on the big screen... :paranoid:
that's it man - no more pics for you bastards, i'm shy now

thanks Hyde :D
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
yeah chris - if there was ever any doubt before, there is none now that I gonna be sub-3% bf come show time
not that there was any doubt on my end (mmmm well maybe little bit lol), but I am now FULLY confident I can guide this thing in..I've fallen into a nice little routine with my foods, and am already planning how to make the adjustments that await down the road -- diet, for all intents and purposes, is pretty much a set course (easy as hell to adjust downward now, and I will enjoy going back UP at the end) ;)
of course, all things change..this is snag talking, c'mon i'm the addict of change ahaaa; but I really do not foresee it, unless my anabolic course deters me ie maybe I have to up the cals even before I think I need/want to..
we'll see!


anyway: so yesterday due to the split-training, I consumed the majority of my allotted carbs a bit too early..last 2 meals needed to be both smaller than usual and less carbs as well....voila

5oz 96% lean beef
5oz chunk light tuna w/ salsa
3oz lobster
bell pepper
~375cals

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and then here a lil bit ago:
off day today, carbs are lower in preparation for carb-load tonight (~125g this day total before a 175g carb meal last feeding)
9oz chicken breast, grilled (TASTY seasoning I threw together too, this may have been THE BEST chicken breast I have ever had - srs)
grilled bell pepper/onion
steamed greens
not pictured, side bowl of 1/2c black beans
~385cals total

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^^ this entire meal was absolutely to die for :food:
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Looks delicious bro!
 
Back is getting very defined now, I really can see the difference and your abs are visibly thicker with every pic. Arms more separated as is everything. Looking very hard and well your chest is just ridiculous ... in a good way of course ... well not for your oponents. I can't imagine what kind of beast would have to show up to get you this time around. The way things are going this is yours to lose or win. Just kick azz ....
 
thanks doug - always appreciate the encouragement..the reality is, you can never approach a show with that kind of thinking tho, not ever....and this one especially - is the BEST of the best brother; going to take all I got and then some to hold my own


after carb-up last night, feeling pretty good here this morning tho

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and breakfast is now slimmed down to ~450 cals, looks like this:
5oz 96% lean beef
3 egg whites
sitting on top of 1 slice ezekiel bread
1/2 scoop hydrolyzed protein + 1c blueberries

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Yes I never would approach a show with that attitude either. Doesn't matter what show anybody can show up. I can't imagine the monster true but he might be out there and he might be coming so you better get ready for him. I think you're doing just that. Remember I have been through this with you and we took the same go all the way attitude into my regional show why would you do any less for a National. :)
 
Alright Snags, I know this is very hard for you but turn to the damn side in the mirror straighten your arm closest to the mirror as hard as you can and take a picture with the other arm. That is how you will get me my damn triceps shot I keep asking for!

HRRRRMMMMPPPPHHHHH!!!!!! :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :buttkick:
 
^^^ :rofl:
could be I enjoy keeping YOU in suspense, brother man chris

how bout a pic of this meal I just mauled a bit ago, instead :p

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6oz tilapia (I know I know, but hey IIFMM ... :rolleyes: <- kidding, I do eat tilapia once in awhile tho)
5oz lean beef stuffed into bell pepper (topped w/ Dijon with chardonnay mustard)
2 rice cakes
400cals
 
IrishSoldier said:
But that's snags signature pose :D
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NEGGED! :spank:

Let's not help him avoid it... YOu know you want to see the gigantic looking triceps flexed too!


I have known him for at least 4 years on here and not once has he posted a triceps shot that I can remember and obviously he has some freaky triceps genetics....

Snags in the all important words of Starsky and Hutch:
[video=youtube_share;RBMdsSwNZ9M]http://youtu.be/RBMdsSwNZ9M[/video]
 
SHEESH See what I mean, I don't know that I have ever seen someone who had better development on the lateral head of the triceps comparatively. I mean it is like Mike Matarazzo's calves or something. That muscle belly is so freaking long there it looks like an implant! AWESOME!
 
very kind my brother - thank you :)
you guys would really hate me tho if I told you how little direct work I do on them, majority of the time
just a good spot for me, genetically
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
very kind my brother - thank you :)
you guys would really hate me tho if I told you how little direct work I do on them, majority of the time
just a good spot for me, genetically
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Yah I never directly work my traps.... guess we have our spots. Problem with traps is they can get too big.
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
just a good spot for me, genetically
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Do you happen to have a BAD spot bro lol every muscle group that genetics plays a part in is gihugent on you haha. Lookon good boss man
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
very kind my brother - thank you :)
you guys would really hate me tho if I told you how little direct work I do on them, majority of the time
just a good spot for me, genetically
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Sounds like me and my calves... No worries though I can appreciate a good genetic anomaly just as much as something that has been worked for very hard.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah I never directly work my traps.... guess we have our spots. Problem with traps is they can get too big.
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same - I do even less direct trap work, than tri's
Danb2285 said:
Do you happen to have a BAD spot bro lol every muscle group that genetics plays a part in is gihugent on you haha. Lookon good boss man
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much thanks brother, I haven't "spot-focused" for a very long time in life, try to develop everything evenly by appropriate amounts of work everywhere, correct exercise choices, and always mind-muscle on form..that approach ahs served me well, until last few yrs when injuries have derailed my legs a bit (and this followed a period where I WAS trying to catch the wheels up, because my upper was becoming obviously more developed than my lower)
just when I had legs to nice spot (in fact some said these were the best part of me att) - boom, I got KO'd
is a bit of a challenge now, getting them back to snuff..i'll be fine tho

MrKleen73 said:
Sounds like me and my calves... No worries though I can appreciate a good genetic anomaly just as much as something that has been worked for very hard.
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not saying I haven't worked hard brogan! :stick:
just that I really do not focus on any one bodypart with direct work, and tri's very little by comparison..consistency in the approach, yr-in and yr-out, along with proper nutrition, is what I would say are key attributes to development - even moreso than genetics, on certain levels
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
same - I do even less direct trap work, than tri's
much thanks brother, I haven't "spot-focused" for a very long time in life, try to develop everything evenly by appropriate amounts of work everywhere, correct exercise choices, and always mind-muscle on form..that approach ahs served me well, until last few yrs when injuries have derailed my legs a bit (and this followed a period where I WAS trying to catch the wheels up, because my upper was becoming obviously more developed than my lower)
just when I had legs to nice spot (in fact some said these were the best part of me att) - boom, I got KO'd
is a bit of a challenge now, getting them back to snuff..i'll be fine tho

not saying I haven't worked hard brogan! :stick:
just that I really do not focus on any one bodypart with direct work, and tri's very little by comparison..consistency in the approach, yr-in and yr-out, along with proper nutrition, is what I would say are key attributes to development - even moreso than genetics, on certain levels
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No you just dont work them hard! LMOA!

No slight the Broseph! You know what I meant, you have not used much direct focus to intentionally make them freaky. Heavy pressing, basic attention, and occasional spot work on them has been enough for you to maintain well above average triceps. Like my calves I definitely put in some work on them with years of soccer, skate boarding, bike riding, then when Mike Matarazzo got know for his I busted my arse to get mine huge and kept a good amount of it due to genetics and occasional spot work. Now I don't have to focus on them to keep them above average, all of the work they get with everything else I do maintains them well and then when I focus on them they respond quickly.
 
MrKleen73 said:
No you just dont work them hard! LMOA!

No slight the Broseph! You know what I meant, you have not used much direct focus to intentionally make them freaky. Heavy pressing, basic attention, and occasional spot work on them has been enough for you to maintain well above average triceps. Like my calves I definitely put in some work on them with years of soccer, skate boarding, bike riding, then when Mike Matarazzo got know for his I busted my arse to get mine huge and kept a good amount of it due to genetics and occasional spot work. Now I don't have to focus on them to keep them above average, all of the work they get with everything else I do maintains them well and then when I focus on them they respond quickly.
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well said my man, very nice and very accurate ;)

one question tho: what does LMOA mean? :think:
Like My Olive-shaped Ass, or something?

:biglaugh:
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
well said my man, very nice and very accurate ;)

one question tho: what does LMOA mean? :think:
Like My Olive-shaped Ass, or something?

:biglaugh:
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Like My Onion Ass - so nice it will bring a tear to your eye... DUH!
Or maybe Lean Me Over Already... WAIT WHAT?????
 
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