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Preworkout brew thoughts?

squatting

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2 scoops of iforce compete
9 grams of sns cit mall
3-6 grams of MAN orotine creatine

I also have sns cop and np beta alanine that I may add

Pre/intra
 
I know a lot of people recommend 8g citmal. I honestly don't notice much of a difference after 4g +.
 
squatting said:
2 scoops of iforce compete
9 grams of sns cit mall
3-6 grams of MAN orotine creatine

I also have sns cop and np beta alanine that I may add

Pre/intra
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That's a lot, but will work nicely. 3 grams of Beta Alanine would be worth adding too.
 
squatting said:
2 scoops of iforce compete
9 grams of sns cit mall
3-6 grams of MAN orotine creatine

I also have sns cop and np beta alanine that I may add

Pre/intra
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Compete is Intraworkout, no mroe than 6g of Cirulline Malate needed anyway...and Orotine and Creatine are not necessarily PWO supps and neither is BA like aforementioned.

Try:
1g Agmatine Sulfate
6g Citrulline Malate
3g COP
200mg Caffeine Pill
1 Bronkaid
1 gram ALCAR

That should be good to give yah a kick, to get some focus, endurance and pumps.
 
Celorza said:
Compete is Intraworkout, no mroe than 6g of Cirulline Malate needed anyway...and Orotine and Creatine are not necessarily PWO supps and neither is BA like aforementioned.

Try:
1g Agmatine Sulfate
6g Citrulline Malate
3g COP
200mg Caffeine Pill
1 Bronkaid
1 gram ALCAR

That should be good to give yah a kick, to get some focus, endurance and pumps.
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Agmatine is no more of a dedicated pwo in my mind than BA is. Just my opinion of course. I actually like both. I assumed the OP was staying away from stims since he made no mention of wanting them in his stack. If that isn't the case, then you EC recommendation is very solid.
 
Dewey99 said:
Agmatine is no more of a dedicated pwo in my mind than BA is. Just my opinion of course. I actually like both. I assumed the OP was staying away from stims since he made no mention of wanting them in his stack. If that isn't the case, then you EC recommendation is very solid.
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I like agmatine preworkout when paired with GMS and if possible some carbs before the workout. The ALCAR just helps my focus in marvelous ways paired up with EC :). I think BA and Creatines are just meant to be taken to keep the muscle levels fully saturated, thus not really needed to be taken pre workout.
 
Celorza said:
I like agmatine preworkout when paired with GMS and if possible some carbs before the workout. The ALCAR just helps my focus in marvelous ways paired up with EC :). I think BA and Creatines are just meant to be taken to keep the muscle levels fully saturated, thus not really needed to be taken pre workout.
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Agreed that Agmatine plus GMS produce very good pumps. Agmatine's overall benefits are often overlooked though when people only think of t as a pwo supplement. BA can be taken any time of day because as you said maintaining muscle saturation is the real goal. That being said, I am a fan of those BA tingles before working out. ALCAR is amazing in so many ways and is definitely a new staple supp.
 
Dewey99 said:
Agreed that Agmatine plus GMS produce very good pumps. Agmatine's overall benefits are often overlooked though when people only think of t as a pwo supplement. BA can be taken any time of day because as you said maintaining muscle saturation is the real goal. That being said, I am a fan of those BA tingles before working out. ALCAR is amazing in so many ways and is definitely a new staple supp.
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Agreed, this is just their mention for PWO scenes, but I rather use Agmatine for general health and GDA purposes. ALCAR, while it may have also awesome MPK effects for fat loss, I revere it as the thing that keeps me sane, in a good mood and able to learn when tackling on around 5 classes and 2 labs, all for Engineering...Ever tried this:

-Piracetam
-DAA
-ALCAR
-EC
-Choline

That above ooooh...oooh my god...honestly haha its a mental orgasm.
 
karbolyn, 1g agmatine, 6.5g cit mal, 2g cop, argine e2 matrix, stim of choice
 
hvactech said:
karbolyn, 1g agmatine, 6.5g cit mal, 2g cop, argine e2 matrix, stim of choice
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But...but...but...no kind of arginine will ever work on a PWO :(...well that's just me personal opinion :D!
 
Celorza said:
But...but...but...no kind of arginine will ever work on a PWO :(...well that's just me personal opinion :D!
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its not for arginine, its for the norvaline in it, plus i already have it
 
Celorza said:
Agreed, this is just their mention for PWO scenes, but I rather use Agmatine for general health and GDA purposes. ALCAR, while it may have also awesome MPK effects for fat loss, I revere it as the thing that keeps me sane, in a good mood and able to learn when tackling on around 5 classes and 2 labs, all for Engineering...Ever tried this:

-Piracetam
-DAA
-ALCAR
-EC
-Choline

That above ooooh...oooh my god...honestly haha its a mental orgasm.
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I haven't tried that stack, but have a 700g tub of Piracetum and 500g tub of Choline waiting to be opened. Obviously (as I am a supp whore) I already have all the rest of your ingredients on hand as well. I am waiting until after my shoulder surgery before I dive in. I will pick your brain in the coming weeks for dosing ideas.
 
Dewey99 said:
I haven't tried that stack, but have a 700g tub of Piracetum and 500g tub of Choline waiting to be opened. Obviously (as I am a supp whore) I already have all the rest of your ingredients on hand as well. I am waiting until after my shoulder surgery before I dive in. I will pick your brain in the coming weeks for doing ideas.
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Hehehe :D! HMU anytime, I love trying home made brews!!
 
squatting said:
2 scoops of iforce compete
9 grams of sns cit mall
3-6 grams of MAN orotine creatine

I also have sns cop and np beta alanine that I may add

Pre/intra
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Sns powderes agamtine and your golden
 
squatting said:
2 scoops of iforce compete
9 grams of sns cit mall
3-6 grams of MAN orotine creatine

I also have sns cop and np beta alanine that I may add

Pre/intra
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Even without the BA and COP that is an epic stack. You should see some awesomeness with it. :D

What flavor Compete did you grab?
 
Thanks for the advice I'm trying keep it stim free

I may just drop in the cop ba and agmatine i have and just go ham then haha

I'm also using PP sustain alpha endoamp max which I love going to be adding in sns inhibit p too


I picked up lemon drop in hopes it's as good as the tangerine one I just finished.
 
i know arginine gets a bad rep....but i have been adding it to agmatine and cit mal and feel it really improves effects...

for a great sex booster try...arginine/agmatine/cit mal/with 10-20mg ycl, depending on weight and tolerance....DAMN!!!!
 
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