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SNS Releases X-Gels, the strongest natural anabolic out there!

mw1 said:
I'm sure you have seen the label or you wouldnt have posted in this thread
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I've seen the label, of course. I haven't seen the product. I was confused, which is why I posted.

You guys call this "X Gels" and have advertised it as an exact copy of our X-Factor. I think a bit of scrutiny from us should be expected. Obviously, we'd be extremely upset if it were not 625mg total (40%) oil per softgel like XF, but were advertised and sold as such. Now that its been made clear that it does contain the same 250 mg dosage of ARA by the SNS rep, I can only wish you guys the best with it... X-Factor is and always was a solid product!
 
w_llewellyn said:
I've seen the label, of course. I haven't seen the product. I was confused, which is why I posted.

You guys call this "X Gels" and have advertised it as an exact copy of our X-Factor. I think a bit of scrutiny from us should be expected. Obviously, we'd be extremely upset if it were not 625mg total (40%) oil per softgel like XF, but were advertised and sold as such. Now that its been made clear that it does contain the same 250 mg dosage of ARA by the SNS rep, I can only wish you guys the best with it... X-Factor is and always was a solid product!
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We understand, and expect a certain level of scrutiny from you seeing as ArA has been your baby for a number of years. But you're posts come after one of your reps had been posting (in multiple threads) misinformation regarding our dose per cap. However, X-Gels do contain 625mgs total (40% -- 250mgs ArA per cap) and is exactly the product that we represent it to be.

And while the MN Rep who was guilty of spreading misinformation regarding our X-Gels, has both apologized and removed the posts containing the misinformation, the timing of these comments has warranted an eyebrow raise from our team. I believe you have no malicious intent but timing of events can be perceived as otherwise.

That being said, I have no desire to state who the rep was, because I hold no ill will, nor do I wish to begin a callout. It happened, we're moving past it, and I wish him, you, and MN both the best.

And we couldn't begin to agree with you more on the effects of ArA. We firmly believe that it is the number 1 non-hormonal anabolic available on the market and we've been very excited about this project for quite some time, and seeing it finally come to fruition is an incredible sight.
 
THE X-GELS SALE CONTINUES.


The same website that has been running the sale for the past two days has received another shipment of X-Gels and is continuing the sale for 1 more day. $29.99 each before 5% off code. Now's the time to get in on it if you've missed out. It may never be priced this low again!
 
w_llewellyn said:
I've seen the label, of course. I haven't seen the product. I was confused, which is why I posted.

You guys call this "X Gels" and have advertised it as an exact copy of our X-Factor. I think a bit of scrutiny from us should be expected. Obviously, we'd be extremely upset if it were not 625mg total (40%) oil per softgel like XF, but were advertised and sold as such. Now that its been made clear that it does contain the same 250 mg dosage of ARA by the SNS rep, I can only wish you guys the best with it... X-Factor is and always was a solid product!
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The bottom line is that both products will do the same thing...and that "thing" is very, very good for a bodybuilder. I hope both products get/continue to get the success they deserve.
 
Its both the same sh!t...just comes down to preference of company and the price. MN had some good deals on theirs a while back and a lot of people stocked up. I didn't because I didn't know much about it, so what I did was went with the cheaper of the two.
No bias here.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Its both the same sh!t...just comes down to preference of company and the price. MN had some good deals on theirs a while back and a lot of people stocked up. I didn't because I didn't know much about it, so what I did was went with the cheaper of the two.
No bias here.
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We're excited about being able to offer X-Gels at the price point we've been able to hit.
 
What is the reason why you cannot take this if one has asthma?I myself have asthma,but is controlled by advair.
 
docveete said:
What is the reason why you cannot take this if one has asthma?I myself have asthma,but is controlled by advair.
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Asthma is an inflammatory disease, and Arachidonic Acid is a pro-inflammatory fatty acid. You can use your own discretion, but SNS cannot advocate consumption of ArA in asthma users.
 
antihero said:
We're excited about being able to offer X-Gels at the price point we've been able to hit.
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Which is very light on the wallet!
 
Anybody have a scale? How much does one of the SNS softgels weigh?
 
w_llewellyn said:
Anybody have a scale? How much does one of the SNS softgels weigh?
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It will be at my house soon, ill weigh it out.


So glycerol monosterate is a popular combo wih ArA, but ive been hearing ppl say to stack it with alcar? Is it worth picking up to add to it?
 
tnubs said:
It will be at my house soon, ill weigh it out.


So glycerol monosterate is a popular combo wih ArA, but ive been hearing ppl say to stack it with alcar? Is it worth picking up to add to it?
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Stacking it with a carnitine is a great idea (it doesn't necessarily have to be ALCAR specifically. you could use PLCAR, or LCLT, etc). GMS is well worth it too.
 
antihero said:
THE X-GELS SALE CONTINUES.


The same website that has been running the sale for the past two days has received another shipment of X-Gels and is continuing the sale for 1 more day. $29.99 each before 5% off code. Now's the time to get in on it if you've missed out. It may never be priced this low again!
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excellent news!

w_llewellyn said:
Anybody have a scale? How much does one of the SNS softgels weigh?
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Why are you so blatantly trying to discredit us? Are really so angry that SNS has a directly competing product that you feel the need to come after us no matter how misguided? SNS X Gels are just as high a quality as I know MN tries to uphold. Both products are great, I have used ArA a couple times before and love the stuff.
 
tnubs said:
It will be at my house soon, ill weigh it out.

So glycerol monosterate is a popular combo wih ArA, but ive been hearing ppl say to stack it with alcar? Is it worth picking up to add to it?
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Can someone (coop maybe?) Make a list of synergistic supps to run with xgels? So far gms, alcar, & cissus...anything else?

I will also weigh it out when I get it, but I trust SNS...
 
w_llewellyn said:
Anybody have a scale? How much does one of the SNS softgels weigh?
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If you think that we're lying about X-Gels, Steve can talk it over with you privately. However, this is a promotion thread in the SNS section of a site that MN is not sponsored at. Please show some respect. :)

uvawahoowa said:
Can someone (coop maybe?) Make a list of synergistic supps to run with xgels? So far gms, alcar, & cissus...anything else?

I will also weigh it out when I get it, but I trust SNS...
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Cissus wouldn't be synergistic, it's just your best bet for helping the joint issues. I'd say:

-Agmatine

-Nitrates

-Carnitine

-GMS

-TTA

-Leucine

Also note that comparing weights of softgels is meaningless because they have different amounts of excipients. I promise you that X-Gels matches X-Factor in Ara content per cap.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Cissus wouldn't be synergistic, it's just your best bet for helping the joint issues. I'd say:

-Agmatine

-Nitrates

-Carnitine

-GMS

-TTA

-Leucine
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Agreed on all accounts. I would also suggest that ArA would stack well with natural Testosterone Boosters.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Inhibition of thrombotic pathways (we want as much Ara to be converted to prostanoids as possible).

Add I3C and silymarin/milk thistle to the list as well.
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I love I3C! Not sure how much I have left but I bought a ton when it was on sale a couple years ago.
 
i am feeling the timing would be right to add it to my current Licogenix run and my future Natadrol run log sponsor approvals pending of course :)
 
kingjameskjf said:
I love I3C! Not sure how much I have left but I bought a ton when it was on sale a couple years ago.
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I was thinking of buying straight I3C... (maybe now foods brand) what dosage/timing do you take it at?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Cissus wouldn't be synergistic, it's just your best bet for helping the joint issues. I'd say:

-Agmatine

-Nitrates

-Carnitine

-GMS

-TTA

-Leucine
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Have combined all those with ArA before except the TTA and Nitrates. Got some X-gels, TTA, and Agmatine from SNS all on the way. Just have to decide which Carnitine I will be using next month with it (already have Glycergrow and SNS Leucine for it as well).

Not sure if you have expanded on it before (if you have just tell me to search and I will later ;) ), but what is the proposed extra benefit behind Nitrates + ArA?
 
bolt10 said:
Have combined all those with ArA before except the TTA and Nitrates. Got some X-gels, TTA, and Agmatine from SNS all on the way. Just have to decide which Carnitine I will be using next month with it (already have Glycergrow and SNS Leucine for it as well).

Not sure if you have expanded on it before (if you have just tell me to search and I will later ;) ), but what is the proposed extra benefit behind Nitrates + ArA?
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I will be stacking it with PLCAR.

Increasing delivery to skeletal muscle.
 
antihero said:
I will be stacking it with PLCAR.

Increasing delivery to skeletal muscle.
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Unfortunately the PLCAR was out of stock when I made my order. I don't plan on using the X-gels too soon tho so I can probably get some PLCAR from Nutra before I do. :)
 
Question for Coop...
I'm picking up a couple of bottles of X-gels. This will be my first experience with ARA, so I was looking for some advice. I have some Fierce domination and would be stacking the two pre-workout, as I've read there is synergy between the ingredients. Would you recommend I add a separate carnitine source, 2gr of Alcar if that is preferable, or just added LCLT since 1g is already in Fierce? Any other suggestions to run alongside this stack?


Really appreciate your input.

Thanks.
 
uvawahoowa said:
I was thinking of buying straight I3C... (maybe now foods brand) what dosage/timing do you take it at?
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I split 400 mg total into two doses for each day. I really like adding it into my pct's and have found it to be effective.
 
kingjameskjf said:
I split 400 mg total into two doses for each day. I really like adding it into my pct's and have found it to be effective.
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Besides a SERM, best thing for a PCT IMO. Ran it on my last PCT and I held onto the most gains to date. Will never run a PCT without it. And this was before SNS made X Gels so i was purchasing ArA from MN. Even with the steep price, it was worth it. Now this SNS's great price, I will never run a PCT without it :D
 
warbird01 said:
Besides a SERM, best thing for a PCT IMO. Ran it on my last PCT and I held onto the most gains to date. Will never run a PCT without it. And this was before SNS made X Gels so i was purchasing ArA from MN. Even with the steep price, it was worth it. Now this SNS's great price, I will never run a PCT without it :D
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agreed! SERM for the harsher stuff and I3C, and even DAA I find to be a great combo.
 
lionstrong said:
Question for Coop...
I'm picking up a couple of bottles of X-gels. This will be my first experience with ARA, so I was looking for some advice. I have some Fierce domination and would be stacking the two pre-workout, as I've read there is synergy between the ingredients. Would you recommend I add a separate carnitine source, 2gr of Alcar if that is preferable, or just added LCLT since 1g is already in Fierce? Any other suggestions to run alongside this stack?


Really appreciate your input.

Thanks.
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Either carnitine addition would be beneficial IMO. Just depends on what you want.

Additional GMS may be useful as Fierce only has 1g (I may be mistaken).

Otherwise that is an awesome combo. Ara + GMS + Agmatine + Nitrates + Carnitine. :eek:
 
bolt10 said:
Have combined all those with ArA before except the TTA and Nitrates. Got some X-gels, TTA, and Agmatine from SNS all on the way. Just have to decide which Carnitine I will be using next month with it (already have Glycergrow and SNS Leucine for it as well).

Not sure if you have expanded on it before (if you have just tell me to search and I will later ;) ), but what is the proposed extra benefit behind Nitrates + ArA?
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The nitrates would be beneficial with ArA in the presence of agmatine. Stacking all 3 would dramatically increase vasodilation to a degree greater than the sum of the 3 alone.

lionstrong said:
Question for Coop...
I'm picking up a couple of bottles of X-gels. This will be my first experience with ARA, so I was looking for some advice. I have some Fierce domination and would be stacking the two pre-workout, as I've read there is synergy between the ingredients. Would you recommend I add a separate carnitine source, 2gr of Alcar if that is preferable, or just added LCLT since 1g is already in Fierce? Any other suggestions to run alongside this stack?


Really appreciate your input.

Thanks.
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The carnitine in Fierce Domination is sufficient for fulfilling its purpose with ArA, but I'd pick up some extra LCLT because 1g per workout is underdosed when it comes to reaping the other benefits of LCLT. Besides that, the combo seems perfect.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
The nitrates would be beneficial with ArA in the presence of agmatine. Stacking all 3 would dramatically increase vasodilation to a degree greater than the sum of the 3 alone.

The carnitine in Fierce Domination is sufficient for fulfilling its purpose with ArA, but I'd pick up some extra LCLT because 1g per workout is underdosed when it comes to reaping the other benefits of LCLT. Besides that, the combo seems perfect.
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So there is synergy between nitrates and agmatine... Interesting. No worries of hypotension at normal doses?
 
Valdez said:
So there is synergy between nitrates and agmatine... Interesting. No worries of hypotension at normal doses?
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It's entirely dependent on hemodynamic variations from individual to individual. I've actually found that while agmatine is hypotensive, co-administration with citrulline or nitrates actually reduces hypotensive side effects of those 2 compounds, like dizziness/lightheadedness (remember, it's a NOS modulator).
 
mr.cooper69 said:
It's entirely dependent on hemodynamic variations from individual to individual. I've actually found that while agmatine is hypotensive, co-administration with citrulline or nitrates actually reduces hypotensive side effects of those 2 compounds, like dizziness/lightheadedness (remember, it's a NOS modulator).
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Right on man thanks for the info!
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Just don't use them at the same time. Lico shouldn't be used preworkout anyway because the ethanolic extract inhibits nitric oxide production.
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How far before a workout cAn lico be used then (sorry i know this is NOT a lico/athletix thread)
 
i personally am using it first thing in the morning and right before bed. which at the easiest would be 3-4 hours or right after work (9-10 hours)
 
mr.cooper69 said:
4+ hours. Not sure if it actually inhibits COX or if it mediates inflammation via iNOS. Perhaps you can ask a rep
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Woah woah, there is something Coop doesn't know? Wtf?
 
Asmodean said:
I just picked up 2 bottles for 23.99 each at a place that sounds like a famous steak sauce.
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WHAT???

I can't believe they have them at that price. We didn't set up a deal with them to run a sale. I'm wondering if it's actually a typo, and it should be $33.95 each.

FL3X MAGNUM said:
Does nutra have any yet?
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They should. I don't know what the hold up is. I would image they already have it in hand and just need to get it up on the site. It was shipped out last week.

Bolanrox said:
Mine got dropped of tonight!

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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Very nice. We're looking forward to hearing your feedback.
 
antihero said:
WHAT???

I can't believe they have them at that price. We didn't set up a deal with them to run a sale. I'm wondering if it's actually a typo, and it should be $33.95 each.

They should. I don't know what the hold up is. I would image they already have it in hand and just need to get it up on the site. It was shipped out last week.

Very nice. We're looking forward to hearing your feedback.
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What site did you get them from??
 
uvawahoowa said:
What site did you get them from??
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This has to be a typo. There's no possible way they legitimately meant to sell them at that price. I'd recommend scooping up as many as possible before Monday morning.

Hopefully they honor the orders.
 
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