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What is the Best Test Booster Supplement that is not a Prohormone?

ive pasted a link below concerning the arimatest claims and why i made the statment i did concerning the possibility of largely boosting test levels 800% using over the counter stuff:


[FONT=VERDANA,HELVETICA,HELV,ARIAL,GENEVA][SIZE=-1]While other supplements are bragging about 200%, 300% and the closest competitor brags about 600% increases—ARIMATEST blows them away.
ARIMATEST is a bio-engineered aromatase-inhibitor complex designed to produce a precise succession of testosterone elevating action via fast acting AI-1 and AI-2 aromatase-inhibiting ingredients, plus inclusion of the slower acting AI-3 bioactive for prolonged ultra-high free-testosterone elevating effects. ARIMATEST features a new pharmaceutical Fastsorb Technology, which allows for rapid and high levels of absorption directly into the bloodstream primarily through buccal cavity (mouth). ARIMATEST’s three-stage anti-aromatase activity and superior bioavailability causes a dramatic decrease in estrogen and a huge increase in total testosterone and free testosterone. These supra-physiological levels of free testosterone allow for maximum tissue saturation and powerful anabolic effects. Results like this were previously unheard of and are equivalent to taking hundreds of milligrams of injectables. One reason most people don’t see significant gains from other testosterone boosting supplements is because they simply do not raise testosterone levels high enough. In order to really pack on muscle like pro bodybuilders do, you need super high off the chart levels.

Athletes or anyone else subject to performance enhancement substance testing should consult with their sanctioning organization before use. Use of this product may result in testing positive.

Testing methodologies vary. Advertised results may not be typical. Pharmadynamic Testosterone Technology


  • Anti-Aromatase Complex
  • Fastsorb™ Delivery
  • Patents Pending
  • LABORATORY TESTED
  • INCREASES TESTOSTERONE 10,000%*

ARIMATEST™ is a revolutionary breakthrough in natural testosterone boosting, made possible through the utilization of advanced anti-aromatase bioactives provided in the unique patent-pending FASTSORB™ delivery tablet. ARIMATEST™ has the unique ability to rapidly and dramatically increase free testosterone while eliminating estrogen through aromatase inhibition.*

LABORATORY TESTED - Scientists at MuscleMeds™ conducted laboratory tests to validate the free testosterone boosting effects of ARIMATEST™ in a doctor controlled medical trial. Laboratory test results revealed that male subjects showed free testosterone levels were increased up to 10,000% above baseline levels within 1 hour after taking ARIMATEST™.




also, a connection to a product that boosts free test that can result in a loss of libido ( which is the concern i brought up) is written here in the DIRECTIONS for the product diesal test:


[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=VERDANA,HELVETICA,HELV,ARIAL,GENEVA][SIZE=-1][FONT=VERDANA,HELVETICA,HELV,ARIAL,GENEVA][SIZE=-1]Directions For Get Diesel DIESEL TEST Hardcore:
Always take with 8-12oz. liquid 15-20 minutes before or 30 minutes after a meal.onsume 4 to 12 tabs daily. The first five days of use do not exceed 4 tabs/day. If you experience a large increase in acne or aggression or if you feel the increase in libido/sex drive is too strong or if you notice a reduction in libido: reduce dosage by one or more tabs/day. PM dosage should be consumed 4-6 hours after mid-day dose, not before bed. For best results consume eight or more tabs per day. Cycle six days on and one day off. If this product starts to lose its 'kick' with continued use, take one week off and continue use.


anyway, obviously the antiaromatase products are way more anti aromatase then say erase, so im sure its prett safe to say the concerns i raised are irrelevant with that particular product; i personally get bummed whenever i see any kind of blocker in a supplement, especially when its got a ton of other awesome ingredients in it. i admit im stereotyping the whole concept of anti aromatization based on my experience with heavy duty products and the testimony of others who took diesal test hardcore. i just regard stuff that blocks whatever estrogen my body is choosing to produce as unholy[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]; just a personal preference. i hope these postings addressed any misunderstanding about where im coming from
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thescience said:
ive pasted a link below concerning the arimatest claims and why i made the statment i did concerning the possibility of largely boosting test levels 800% using over the counter stuff:


[SIZE=-1]While other supplements are bragging about 200%, 300% and the closest competitor brags about 600% increases—ARIMATEST blows them away.
ARIMATEST is a bio-engineered aromatase-inhibitor complex designed to produce a precise succession of testosterone elevating action via fast acting AI-1 and AI-2 aromatase-inhibiting ingredients, plus inclusion of the slower acting AI-3 bioactive for prolonged ultra-high free-testosterone elevating effects. ARIMATEST features a new pharmaceutical Fastsorb Technology, which allows for rapid and high levels of absorption directly into the bloodstream primarily through buccal cavity (mouth). ARIMATEST’s three-stage anti-aromatase activity and superior bioavailability causes a dramatic decrease in estrogen and a huge increase in total testosterone and free testosterone. These supra-physiological levels of free testosterone allow for maximum tissue saturation and powerful anabolic effects. Results like this were previously unheard of and are equivalent to taking hundreds of milligrams of injectables. One reason most people don’t see significant gains from other testosterone boosting supplements is because they simply do not raise testosterone levels high enough. In order to really pack on muscle like pro bodybuilders do, you need super high off the chart levels.

Athletes or anyone else subject to performance enhancement substance testing should consult with their sanctioning organization before use. Use of this product may result in testing positive.

Testing methodologies vary. Advertised results may not be typical. Pharmadynamic Testosterone Technology


  • Anti-Aromatase Complex
  • Fastsorb™ Delivery
  • Patents Pending
  • LABORATORY TESTED
  • INCREASES TESTOSTERONE 10,000%*

ARIMATEST™ is a revolutionary breakthrough in natural testosterone boosting, made possible through the utilization of advanced anti-aromatase bioactives provided in the unique patent-pending FASTSORB™ delivery tablet. ARIMATEST™ has the unique ability to rapidly and dramatically increase free testosterone while eliminating estrogen through aromatase inhibition.*

LABORATORY TESTED - Scientists at MuscleMeds™ conducted laboratory tests to validate the free testosterone boosting effects of ARIMATEST™ in a doctor controlled medical trial. Laboratory test results revealed that male subjects showed free testosterone levels were increased up to 10,000% above baseline levels within 1 hour after taking ARIMATEST™.




also, a connection to a product that boosts free test that can result in a loss of libido ( which is the concern i brought up) is written here in the DIRECTIONS for the product diesal test:


[/SIZE][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]Directions For Get Diesel DIESEL TEST Hardcore:
Always take with 8-12oz. liquid 15-20 minutes before or 30 minutes after a meal.onsume 4 to 12 tabs daily. The first five days of use do not exceed 4 tabs/day. If you experience a large increase in acne or aggression or if you feel the increase in libido/sex drive is too strong or if you notice a reduction in libido: reduce dosage by one or more tabs/day. PM dosage should be consumed 4-6 hours after mid-day dose, not before bed. For best results consume eight or more tabs per day. Cycle six days on and one day off. If this product starts to lose its 'kick' with continued use, take one week off and continue use.


anyway, obviously the antiaromatase products are way more anti aromatase then say erase, so im sure its prett safe to say the concerns i raised are irrelevant with that particular product; i personally get bummed whenever i see any kind of blocker in a supplement, especially when its got a ton of other awesome ingredients in it. i admit im stereotyping the whole concept of anti aromatization based on my experience with heavy duty products and the testimony of others who took diesal test hardcore. i just regard stuff that blocks whatever estrogen my body is choosing to produce as unholy[/SIZE][/SIZE]; just a personal preference. i hope these postings addressed any misunderstanding about where im coming from
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Since your name has "science" in it, do you happen to have anything that isn't an ad put together by the company? Like a journal article on the ingredients showing test increases anywhere near those numbers.
 
Thread needs to be deleted before this get out of hand again. Please just end everything the OP has already gather his information he needs.
 
nope; that doesnt mean i would call two companies liars though; i dont look for absolution from any document; havent seen a study on coffee, but i know it works; incidentally, a law was passed making it illegal to site peer-reviewed studies on supplement bottles or where supplements are sold; personally, im fine with a peer reviewed study, but the point is that they can be doubted. of course the other huge flaw is that a dbuble-blind study can say that 10 out of 10 people noticed a benefit from something that i dont notice when i take it, so i personally am not going to bow down to a statment because some scholars cooked it up. real science can be obscured by any number of studies. i dont discount them either though, independant studies or otherwise; for my purposes; rather, i use any claim or testimony as a marker; if it claims benefit, i may be persuaded to try it and prove it for myself. if there is testimony of side-effects, that doesnt mean i dont take it necessarily but i definately keep an eye out. just think of when roids came out; some guy on the street may have mentioned his testes were shrinking and he thinks its from the roids, while a roids salesman yells him down saying there arent any studies on that; then 10 years later there are; how would you like to be the guy that wouldnt act without a study there?

there are probably a ton of awesome products i never would have tried if id first demanded that level of literature first.


in the case of arimatest, i was bummed out by the results; i took deisal on his word though about diesal test, given it admitted to a big product flaw.




Aleksandar37 said:
Since your name has "science" in it, do you happen to have anything that isn't an ad put together by the company? Like a journal article on the ingredients showing test increases anywhere near those numbers.
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thats ok; im fine with having a statement challenged; there wasnt any ad homenem attacks there; glad to keep exchanging info, and im definately open to any contrary AFFIRMATIONS if anyone has any to provide


MrMarc said:
Thread needs to be deleted before this get out of hand again. Please just end everything the OP has already gather his information he needs.
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