Time off Compound 20?
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kokobeware2
Active member
It's funny I asked the rep this same question and he said if ur seeing good results run a third.
strategicmove
Legend
I am glad to read that you have had a pleasant experience with Compound-20. Thank you for the great feedback. You can run Compound-20 for eight weeks, then take about four weeks off. What you might run after a Compound-20 cycle depends on what your goals are. So, what would you like to achieve?
Whacked
Well-known member
3 posts- how coincidental that you're having such phenomenal results on this stuff
Let me guess, you're also taking the recommended dose, just like the bottle suggests
.....LOL
Does anyone even fall for this crap anymore?
Does this trickery still actually work?
(smacking head in disgust)
Let me guess, you're also taking the recommended dose, just like the bottle suggests
.....LOLDoes anyone even fall for this crap anymore?
Does this trickery still actually work?
(smacking head in disgust)
kokobeware2
Active member
Whacked said:3 posts- how coincidental that you're having such phenomenal results on this stuff
Let me guess, you're also taking the recommended dose, just like the bottle suggests
Does anyone even fall for this crap anymore?
Does this trickery still actually work?
(smacking head in disgust)
Not sure what ur trying to get at big guy. I take between 6 -8 a day
Jorsn
Active member
I understand his skepticism... There is a guy under the Amazon reviews that claims he lost 15% BF in 8 weeks on USP C20.
strategicmove
Legend
Is this post a joke? What exactly does post count have to do with experience with a particular product?3 posts- how coincidental that you're having such phenomenal results on this stuff
Let me guess, you're also taking the recommended dose, just like the bottle suggests
Does anyone even fall for this crap anymore?
Does this trickery still actually work?
(smacking head in disgust)
mr.cooper69
Legend
strategicmove
Legend
Clearly you have never seen my Shill Watch Thread on BB.com
Should I have?
mr.cooper69
Legend
Es war nur ein Witz
strategicmove
Legend
Verstanden! Es hat mich nur aufgeregt, dass jedes negative Feedback als Wahrheit angesehen wird, während jedes Positive als unglaubwürdig betrachtet wird.
mr.cooper69
Legend
Awesome, a fellow speaker . I'll be in Tubingen this summer!
. I'll be in Tubingen this summer!
strategicmove
Legend
Might be around Stuttgart at that time. About an hour from Tubingen.Awesome, a fellow speaker
Whacked
Well-known member
Awww there it is. The part where you forgot to disclose what else you were taking (DAA and Lean EFX - two products that actually work).
I am not flaming you "personally" buddy, I am just so disgusted with OVER-HYPED posts related to EARTH-SHATTERING new products.
USPlabs's only competitor these days is Muscle Tech, with respect to being the KING of bogus OVERHYPED OVERPIMPED OVEREXAGGERATED claims!
Make no mistake......USP Labs certainly has "decent" products like everyone else in the industry!
As a matter of fact, I have been on their CIssusRx, PowerFULL for years. Both decent stuff!
It's their MUSCLE-TECH-LIKE MARKETING claims which make me VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!
StrategicMove: Please, spare me! Let me guess, you lost 5 % body fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle on Comound 20 right.....along with every other USPLabs REP?
Before you ask me what post count has to do with it - THINK first.
I keep it REAL as I have no skin in the game. NONE
DO YOU? nuff said
While I can appreciate the fact thast it is your JOB as a PAID employee to pimp USP products Let's just stop the nonsense and spare yourself some dignity here.
The EXTREME intelligence you inarguably possess along with your ability to argue the science better than others doesn't magically translate to making these products STEROID-like in behavior.
There are people left on this board who havent sold their soul who will continue to call a spade a spade and I just happen to be one of them.
I am not flaming you "personally" buddy, I am just so disgusted with OVER-HYPED posts related to EARTH-SHATTERING new products.
USPlabs's only competitor these days is Muscle Tech, with respect to being the KING of bogus OVERHYPED OVERPIMPED OVEREXAGGERATED claims!
Make no mistake......USP Labs certainly has "decent" products like everyone else in the industry!
As a matter of fact, I have been on their CIssusRx, PowerFULL for years. Both decent stuff!
It's their MUSCLE-TECH-LIKE MARKETING claims which make me VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!
StrategicMove: Please, spare me! Let me guess, you lost 5 % body fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle on Comound 20 right.....along with every other USPLabs REP?
Before you ask me what post count has to do with it - THINK first.
I keep it REAL as I have no skin in the game. NONE
DO YOU? nuff said
While I can appreciate the fact thast it is your JOB as a PAID employee to pimp USP products Let's just stop the nonsense and spare yourself some dignity here.
The EXTREME intelligence you inarguably possess along with your ability to argue the science better than others doesn't magically translate to making these products STEROID-like in behavior.
There are people left on this board who havent sold their soul who will continue to call a spade a spade and I just happen to be one of them.
Whacked
Well-known member
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DANG! This stuff MUST BE dbol, anavar, clen, winny, DNP and T3 all wrapped up into one convenient NO Side effect having OTC supp
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!
It's one thing to advertise and push products, and be proud of some novel new ingredient discovered or whatever, but when it gets THIS EGREGIOUS, you all CANNOT expect for theere NOT to be a BACKLASH!
My posts represent just that, nothing more, nothing less.
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DANG! This stuff MUST BE dbol, anavar, clen, winny, DNP and T3 all wrapped up into one convenient NO Side effect having OTC supp
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!
It's one thing to advertise and push products, and be proud of some novel new ingredient discovered or whatever, but when it gets THIS EGREGIOUS, you all CANNOT expect for theere NOT to be a BACKLASH!
My posts represent just that, nothing more, nothing less.
strategicmove
Legend
Awww there it is. The part where you forgot to disclose what else you were taking (DAA and Lean EFX - two products that actually work).
I am not flaming you "personally" buddy, I am just so disgusted with OVER-HYPED posts related to EARTH-SHATTERING new products.
USPlabs is only *****ed by Muscle Tech these days as being the KING of bogus OVERHYPED OVERPIMPED OVEREXAGGERATED claims!
USP Labs detrainly has "decent" products like everyone else in the industry!
As a matter of fact, I have been on their CIssusRx, PowerFULL for years. Both decent stuff!
It's their MUSCLE-TECH-LIKE MARKETING claims which make me VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!
StrategicMove: Please, spare me! Let me guess, you lost 5 % body fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle on Comound 20 right.....along with every other USPLabs REP?
Before you ask me what post count has to do with it - THINK first.
I keep it REAL as I have no skin in the game. NONE
DO YOU? nuff said
While I can appreciate the fact thast it is your JOB as a PAID employee to pimp USP products Let's just stop the nonsense and spare yourself some dignity here.
The EXTREME intelligence you inarguably possess along with your ability to argue the science better than others doesn't magically translate to making these products STEROID-like in behavior.
There are people left on this board who havent sold their soul who will continue to call a spade a spade and I just happen to be one of them.
The last thing I will do is to start trading insults with you. That is way below my style. The opening poster reported he had good results with Compound-20 without making any outlandish claims, and wanted to know which supplements to use afterwards. My response is clear for all to see. Then you came in with your drama. Carry on!
Whacked
Well-known member
1) I gave you credit
2) I gave USP Labs credit
3) I admitted my consistent use of USP Labs products.
I also kept it REAL with respect to the outlandish BOGUS over-the-top claims.
Sorry that calling a spade a spade offends you or that you label that as "trading insults".
Be well.
2) I gave USP Labs credit
3) I admitted my consistent use of USP Labs products.
I also kept it REAL with respect to the outlandish BOGUS over-the-top claims.
Sorry that calling a spade a spade offends you or that you label that as "trading insults".
Be well.
strategicmove
Legend
I'll respond just one last time to your comments.
1) Did you give me credit when you wrote:
"StrategicMove: Please, spare me! Let me guess, you lost 5 % body fat and gained 20 pounds of muscle on Comound 20 right.....along with every other USPLabs REP?"
Nowhere in this thread did I mention anything about how Compound-20 works, what could be expected of it, or even what I experienced with it.
Did you give me credit when you stated the following:
"While I can appreciate the fact that it is your JOB as a PAID employee to pimp USP products. Let's just stop the nonsense and spare yourself some dignity here?"
You do not know anything about me. Yes, while I receive compensation as a rep for USPlabs/USPowders (and I proudly rep for the two companies with a passion), I am not an employee of any of the companies. As a matter of fact, I am a senior-management-level Finance professional, and rep for USPlabs/USPowders for the reason I stated earlier. Besides, I am not only unaware of where I did any "pimping" in this thread, nor am I aware of where I put my dignity at stake in this thread by recommending dosing-cycle length to the original poster.
2) Did you give USPlabs credit when you stated:
"USPlabs is only *****ed by Muscle Tech these days as being the KING of bogus OVERHYPED OVERPIMPED OVEREXAGGERATED claims!"?
Like I stated in an earlier post, just carry on. I will desist from responding to any of your future posts in this thread or elsewhere.
Whacked
Well-known member
SM: No need to get upset or defensive.
Would you be defensive if you did NOT represent USP?
Would you be defensive if we were just keeping it REAL and basing ALL comments from a NON-vested perspective?
Interesting isnt it?
As stated, "I" have NO SKIN IN THE GAME.
I'm merely on the consumer's side.
Show me a product that actually validates its claims after the smoke clears, and after the MAD-PIMPING-campaign ceases 6 months POST-launch, and I'll be first in line to buy it.
Legit products that stand the test of time and also don't need to make such outrageous claims earn my respect.
Look, as an OLDER guy, who's retired now from being the SUCKER of yester-year, I get tired of the new generation of young naive peeps spending their hard earned money on exaggerated HYPE that's all.
Pink Magic ring a bell?
You all keep PIMPIN- I'll de-PIMPIFY every chance I get.
It's called BALANCE, that's all.
No need to take it personally.
Be well.
Would you be defensive if you did NOT represent USP?
Would you be defensive if we were just keeping it REAL and basing ALL comments from a NON-vested perspective?
Interesting isnt it?
As stated, "I" have NO SKIN IN THE GAME.
I'm merely on the consumer's side.
Show me a product that actually validates its claims after the smoke clears, and after the MAD-PIMPING-campaign ceases 6 months POST-launch, and I'll be first in line to buy it.
Legit products that stand the test of time and also don't need to make such outrageous claims earn my respect.
Look, as an OLDER guy, who's retired now from being the SUCKER of yester-year, I get tired of the new generation of young naive peeps spending their hard earned money on exaggerated HYPE that's all.
Pink Magic ring a bell?
You all keep PIMPIN- I'll de-PIMPIFY every chance I get.
It's called BALANCE, that's all.
No need to take it personally.
Be well.
strategicmove
Legend
See my response in Post #3. Please feel free to let me know if anything else is still unclear. Thank you.
USPlabsRep
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DANG! This stuff MUST BE dbol, anavar, clen, winny, DNP and T3 all wrapped up into one convenient NO Side effect having OTC supp
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!
It's one thing to advertise and push products, and be proud of some novel new ingredient discovered or whatever, but when it gets THIS EGREGIOUS, you all CANNOT expect for theere NOT to be a BACKLASH!
My posts represent just that, nothing more, nothing less.
We don't own those web-sites.
In the current regulatory client, the FDA would have our head if we made those claims.
USPlabsRep
Board Sponsor
You keepp talking about our advertising claims.
Would you mind posting links to those claims?
USPlabsRep
Board Sponsor
3 posts- how coincidental that you're having such phenomenal results on this stuff
Let me guess, you're also taking the recommended dose, just like the bottle suggests
Does anyone even fall for this crap anymore?
Does this trickery still actually work?
(smacking head in disgust)
He joined in 2009.
I have industry vision but I'm not that good...
USPlabsRep
Board Sponsor
How about we send you a bottle for a review?
strategicmove
Legend
Thank you, K, for the great feedback. That is the type of review we have been getting across board.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Just a little over 2 weeks for me, I am definitely seeing some changes, seems that I am drying out too...
bla55
Well-known member
I always feel a little on the fence in regards to these because I also read such amazing reviews about Anabolic Pump and then bought some, and all it did was give me massive dumps.
Same with Jack3d, massive reports of how awesome it was, and when I took it I had to dose it double what it was suggested and the bottle lasted me for 14 days.
Then I lastly tried Oxyelite, everyone was pumped with it. And I again didn't even get a little jitter from it.
In all the 3 scenarios I was called a "non-responder". And therefore I will also stop responding to these. Mind you, I went to *** the other day and told the guy I was looking for some stuff to help me sleep, asked if they had Gaba, Taurine, ZMK/A, all the goodies, he asked me why I needed all of those and I said because I was taking some harsh thermogenics; he asked me why, I hesitantly told him, Clenbuterol, sometimes Albuterol / Ephedrine...
He then proceeded to try to tell me how C-20 was as good as Clen, just without the side effects. Sorry, but no.
Just my 2c, not bashing anyone, just sharing personal experience.
Same with Jack3d, massive reports of how awesome it was, and when I took it I had to dose it double what it was suggested and the bottle lasted me for 14 days.
Then I lastly tried Oxyelite, everyone was pumped with it. And I again didn't even get a little jitter from it.
In all the 3 scenarios I was called a "non-responder". And therefore I will also stop responding to these. Mind you, I went to *** the other day and told the guy I was looking for some stuff to help me sleep, asked if they had Gaba, Taurine, ZMK/A, all the goodies, he asked me why I needed all of those and I said because I was taking some harsh thermogenics; he asked me why, I hesitantly told him, Clenbuterol, sometimes Albuterol / Ephedrine...
He then proceeded to try to tell me how C-20 was as good as Clen, just without the side effects. Sorry, but no.
Just my 2c, not bashing anyone, just sharing personal experience.
strategicmove
Legend
Great to know, D. Thank you for the feedback.
kevinhy
Well-known member
If your response from Jack3d and OEP were largely insignificant it says to me that you have a very high stimulant tolerance. Also, judging from the fact that you take clen, ephedrine, and albuterol that pretty much reinforces my sentiments.
In regards to C-20, its not that its "as good as clen", its that it works through the very same pathway and is allowed to be purchased over the counter. The research is there on both selective beta-2 agonists and their influence on skeletal muscle hypertrophy & fat loss, and how C-20 utilizes this pathway, just like higenamine in Alpha-T2.
What did you end up getting for sleep? I actually just started taking Powerfull, and i have to tell you that my sleep is vastly improved from using it.
strategicmove
Legend
Thank you for sharing your impressions.
In terms of Anabolic Pump, like I stated elsewhere, during first-time use, bowel distress might occur. Such distress on starting Anabolic Pump has a useful bowel-cleansing effect, and the more balanced and healthy one's mucosal membrane/intestinal environment is, the less prone one is to this stomach distress. In particular, berberine, a compound in Anabolic Pump, exerts an anti-microbial effect that stimulates peristalsis and intestinal regulation, ultimately leading to the elimination of harmful microorganisms and restoration of bowel integrity. Note, though, that I am not suggesting Anabolic Pump is a replacement for a probiotic (or comparable) therapy. [As a matter of fact, a probiotic cycle prior to Anabolic Pump supplementation would significantly ameliorate the problem in those pre-disposed to it]. Rather, I argue that the propensity to experience increased (beneficial) bowel function while on Anabolic Pump is directly correlated with its microbial effects, quite independent of GLUT-4 translocation and preferential glucose disposal.
Now, Jack3d is a stimulant-containing pre-workout. To obtain the best results from Jack3d, or any other stimulant products for that matter, it is important to cycle off stimulants, preferably both dietary and supplemental, for about four weeks before starting Jack3d or any other stimulant product. Furthermore, we do not recommend taking Jack3d for longer than 8-12 weeks before cycling it off for about four weeks. Where these requirements/recommendations are preserved, the claimed effects from Jack3d are easily obtainable, at a maximum of two scoops per use.
OxyELITE Pro, to the extent that it contains stimulants, is also subject similar stimulant cycling as for Jack3d. Beyond this, even if the product is not "felt", users report that it still delivers fat-loss effects.
strategicmove
Legend
You were faster, in terms of Jack3d, OxyELITE Pro, and stim tolerance.
And there is abundant scientific evidence on the growth-hormone and testosterone-modulating properties of the constituents of PowerFULL. Burn fat while sleeping and wake up incredibly recovered. Anabolic sleep!
LiveToLift
Legend
As another person giving experience with no affiliation c20 ha done a good deal in my current cut. Lost 9 lbs and strength is starting to creep up, tighter and harder then I've ever been. I'm at the point where you can nearly make out my full six pack which has never been here for me! This is all logged and you are welcome to read through and see the results. Strategic you are an honorable man to go through this with whacked and still offer a bottle for review that alone speak wonders for how well you stand behind your products! Well done sir! Just my 2cents....
bla55
Well-known member
My experience with OEP and Jack3d were previous to my experience with Clen. I did have some higher tolerance to stim, but other products - which is beyond the point of going through them - did give me quite the jitters and I felt them a lot more. It's just my personal experience that to me the regular product is underdosed.
I did try Anabolic Pump a second time but still didn't see much of results. Unlike again another 2 other products I used, as well as just OTC ALA, Chromium and Vanadyl Sulfate.
I also recall a product of a, I believe, 80% Forsokli being advertised as "Anavar like results".
I did try Anabolic Pump a second time but still didn't see much of results. Unlike again another 2 other products I used, as well as just OTC ALA, Chromium and Vanadyl Sulfate.
I also recall a product of a, I believe, 80% Forsokli being advertised as "Anavar like results".
Whacked
Well-known member
Great to hear. Were you on anything else?
Excellent. Are you on anything else?
I for one, appreciate the feedback. I hope USP does as well? Isn't htat what these boards are for? Good and BAD reviews?
I respect your feedback more than any other so far as you do "not appear" to be a rep or have any affiliation to USP. Great to see/read.
Sadly, even when REPS from other companies post up, you have to WONDER what even THEIR agenda is ("you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours - we both end up drumming up some business on our products").
Thanks for the review.
strategicmove
Legend
Thank you for the awesome feedback. Glad you are enjoying your run of Compound-20. The product offer, by the way, was from J, not from me.
Whacked
Well-known member
I'd like to get Pat Arnold's AND Cooper's spin spin on this as unless Im misreading things, they dismiss this mindset.
I thought the same until the other day.......
Post #8 and #9........
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As noted, I have been on PowerFULL for YEARS now.
I thought the same until the other day.......
Post #8 and #9........
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As noted, I have been on PowerFULL for YEARS now.
You were faster, in terms of Jack3d, OxyELITE Pro, and stim tolerance.
And there is abundant scientific evidence on the growth-hormone and testosterone-modulating properties of the constituents of PowerFULL. Burn fat while sleeping and wake up incredibly recovered. Anabolic sleep!
USPlabsRep
Board Sponsor
Why is Clen better?
Whacked
Well-known member
Im not here to bash USP, Im here to bash the INSANE OVER-PIMPING and exaggerating and misrepresentations of what a product will do.
It's all disgusting and over the top.
As stated, I have been on CissusRX and PowerFULL for YEARS. U
It's all disgusting and over the top.
As stated, I have been on CissusRX and PowerFULL for YEARS. U
strategicmove
Legend
1) Neither Jack3d nor OxyELITE Pro is underdosed. . On the contrary. Most users do not (cannot) take the maximum recommended doses.
2) Anabolic Pump intake needs to be timed correctly, and the carbohydrate-amounts should also be appropriate. I am not suggesting you did not comply with any or all of these. I meant to suggest that Anabolic Pump is a product that requires experimentation (in terms of dosage timing and carbohydrate amount required). Once these variables dovetail, the power of the product becomes apparent.
3) 95% Forskolin. The Anavar reference was based on a research paper at the time, and was not coined by USPlabs.
LiveToLift
Legend
I'm not a rep in any way, just an honest consumer trying to help pass the good word on products that actually could be worth your hard earned buck. Supplements are just the icing on the cake, you cannot buy a supplement and eat garbage while binge drinking and getting little sleep and expect wonders. Training and diet need to be in line and then results are inevitable with a product like this one. Hope the feedback has helped. Take it from someone who like you was very on the fence about this product, I'm now a believer.Great to hear. Were you on anything else?
Excellent. Are you on anything else?
I for one, appreciate the feedback. I hope USP does as well? Isn't htat what these boards are for? Good and BAD reviews?
I respect your feedback more than any other so far as you do "not appear" to be a rep or have any affiliation to USP. Great to see/read.
Sadly, even when REPS from other companies post up, you have to WONDER what even THEIR agenda is ("you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours - we both end up drumming up some business on our products").
Thanks for the review.
kevinhy
Well-known member
The first thing i think about when reading that is "Carbolin-19" by Biotest
Whacked
Well-known member
Agreed, however, would it be so far-fetched to think MANY of the supp companmeis on here have MULTIPLE handles and created from years past for just a purpose?
Just saying.
Just saying.
Whacked
Well-known member
Great news
Good to hear you had nice results
No one here should be linched for posting negative feedback.
But, often, that's what transpires.
What'de the point of these boards without BALANCE
Good to hear you had nice results
No one here should be linched for posting negative feedback.
But, often, that's what transpires.
What'de the point of these boards without BALANCE
strategicmove
Legend
I thought it was a reference to our Bolic of years ago. There was a research paper that made a comparison with Anavar.
USPlabsRep
Board Sponsor
There're customers that feel the same as you do about Powerfull and Cissus.
You love like and it did nothing for the other guy. it's the nature of the industry.
I have a suggestions for the customer.
1. Understand diet and nutrition as it affects your body. This is not easy but without a doubt it's the most affective supplemental knowledge. Insert supplement into this envirnoment...if it works buy another one and if it doesn't work, return it. You can easily eliminate the good from the bad.
kevinhy
Well-known member
I'm sure it was, but biotest REALLY pimped that research paper.
USPlabsRep
Board Sponsor
Great news
Good to hear you had nice results
No one here should be linched for posting negative feedback.
But, often, that's what transpires.
What'de the point of these boards without BALANCE
I'm all for balance...
It's hard to strike that balance when people attack....