strongest preworkout(opinions)

AutoKal47 said:
A lot of people seem to believe "big, jittery stims kick=strongest preworkout" which
is definitely not the case.

Craze gives you the strength to lift heavier than you ever did,
and then it teaches you that weight doesn't matter,
stimulation does. It binds your mind to your muscles like nothing else

Don't wanna be poetic here, but after more than 40 workouts with it,
I just nailed one of the best, most effective legs day of my life today with it.
Freaking fantastic
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Back up your stayment with some facts, like what's in it the helps this. For me i love beta alanine, I have more endurance on reps and makes me go through a workout that much better
 
I would say Craze or Maximize v2.
 
Young Gotti said:
some old school lg preworkout used to give me the worst ba tingles.....i actually hate ba tingles, but i think pump fixx and no exhaust have a good serving of ba in them

for crappy stim'd out shakyness look at hemo rage uc....geez
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Pump fixx does have a good amount. Enough to give me the tingles. Especially when I do two scoops and pop hypertop-x. I near 4g of beta alanine.

Ready4War is by far the strongest for me. LOVE that stuff. No beta tingle from it but damn good. If I want to force myself to the gym when I absolutely don't want to go, that's what I pop
 
diggyboo said:
Has anyone tried N2KTS (need to build muscle) ????
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Isn't it like a beefed up Jacked? Trying to remember the ingredients
 
way too much for me....it might have been because i took it on a completely empty stomach but i haven't taken it again because it completely ruined my workout
 
MidwestBeast said:
Maniac is decent. It wasn't anything exceptional for me; but a decent profile.
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I agree. If you have a tolerance or are looking for something to kick you in the face, maniac is not it. Though, I'm sure if you have a low tolerance and never use stims it will prolly be good place to start off.
 
AutoKal47 said:
A lot of people seem to believe "big, jittery stims kick=strongest preworkout" which
is definitely not the case.

Craze gives you the strength to lift heavier than you ever did,
and then it teaches you that weight doesn't matter,
stimulation does. It binds your mind to your muscles like nothing else

Don't wanna be poetic here, but after more than 40 workouts with it,
I just nailed one of the best, most effective legs day of my life today with it.
Freaking fantastic
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kai? is...is that you kai greene? haha I totally know what your'e talking about man. I have yet to buy craze yet but am excited to!
 
Muscle Marinade is the strongest I've ever had.
 
1 dexaprime + 25mg ephedrine + 2 scoops hemavol. You will have insane energy matched with insane pumps!
 
ISU152 said:
kai? is...is that you kai greene? haha I totally know what your'e talking about man. I have yet to buy craze yet but am excited to!
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lol funny that you say so, because I recently found out that my training style is *so very*
similar to Kai's, both the mindset he has and the actual devastation we put our bodies thru
in the gym
 
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^This. Only add in 1 scoop of Hemavol, energy and pumps I got from it were unbelievable :D
 
Lockxxheed said:
Back up your stayment with some facts, like what's in it the helps this. For me i love beta alanine, I have more endurance on reps and makes me go through a workout that much better
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lol excuse me???

Back up what? What do I need to back up bro? The fact that for me Craze is the best prewo out there now?
And why in hell I should "back it up with some facts"? but most important, HOW one is suppose to back up
with FACTS something that is highly subjective, like a fav prewo?
What's in it? I ain't no rep, you wanna see what's in it go to the site and read it yourself
Like "what's in it" is gonna tell you how a product works. There are plenty of great-on-paper formulas with tons of supposedly great
ingredients that don't do jack
Wanna back up with facts that beta alanine makes you do more reps? lol i'm very curious.. maybe a video
with and without beta ala?
But mostly, what do you want from me? lol
 
AutoKal47 said:
lol excuse me???

Back up what? What do I need to back up bro? The fact that for me Craze is the best prewo out there now?
And why in hell I should "back it up with some facts"? but most important, HOW one is suppose to back up
with FACTS something that is highly subjective, like a fav prewo?
What's in it? I ain't no rep, you wanna see what's in it go to the site and read it yourself
Like "what's in it" is gonna tell you how a product works. There are plenty of great-on-paper formulas with tons of supposedly great
ingredients that don't do jack
Wanna back up with facts that beta alanine makes you do more reps? lol i'm very curious.. maybe a video
with and without beta ala?
But mostly, what do you want from me? lol
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lol I mean like have you tried n2kts and what do makes craze take the gold for you. Pumps,stim affect, etc. The strongest stim for me was razor 8 and now because of you guys I can't decide if I want n2kts or craze!?
 
Lockxxheed said:
lol I mean like have you tried n2kts and what do makes craze take the gold for you. Pumps,stim affect, etc. The strongest stim for me was razor 8 and now because of you guys I can't decide if I want n2kts or craze!?
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Get both and switch every other workout or every other week
 
This ^^ seems to work well. Although i have never. and i mean it when i say it. NEVER built a tolerance to craze. It will hit you super hard the first time, then it might back down a bit, but from then on, i feel the same. And ive taken it everyday with only 1 scoop. Of course more sleep and better diet will help make it more effective as well.
 
CrAze if you can handle being anxious and a little insomnia. That's just the sides it has on me. I have workout partners that have zero sides!
 
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Seriously. ;) If you haven't tried it, you should.
 
bigintensions said:
I love BA tingles to. When I feel them it feels like I have a jolt of energy.
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Dude, me too :). I thought it was just me
 
Hey no one likes Mesomorph any more? I used to love the stuff, but stopped using it because of the 1,3 dimeth stuff
 
therealest77 said:
Hey no one likes Mesomorph any more? I used to love the stuff, but stopped using it because of the 1,3 dimeth stuff
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A lot of the fan fare for it really died off when they changed their formula. Most said it wasn't as effective afterwards.
 
poison said:
This:

Seriously. ;) If you haven't tried it, you should.
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Ones launch, what's the other?
 
I have always had great workouts with Mesomorph but that was with the first version and the second version which I still have 1/2 container in my freezer and I only use it like once every 6 weeks or so because I rotate all my stim products every workout. When I do finally finish it I don't think I will be purchasing the new version with the creatine nitrate because of lot reviews from people who have used the old versions with excellent results and the newer version they said feels nothing like the first two versions. A preworkout powder that I picked up 2 months ago that I love is JP8X Extreme aka (Peligro) by Diesel Nutrition this stuff is fantastic the workouts I have had on this were great. All I need is 1 1/4 -1 1/2 scoops and 45 min later I am in the zone and it only has 150mg of caffeine per scoop. One thing about JP8X if you can't tolerate drinking something that taste like pure vitamins this product is not for you but if you can this powder it is one of the best. I have had 5 workouts with it in the past two months and I never use the same preworkout supplement that many times in two months but I couldn't believe the great focus I was getting during my workouts. I have about 12 different products that I rotate each workout and the next preworkout I plan on picking up is Craze I love the fact that it doesn't have much caffeine but from the reviews that I have been reading most people are saying the energy and focus are incredible. I am hoping on receiving a sample for and if I do and I like it I will definatly purchase it on my next order.
 
totalpackage said:
I have always had great workouts with Mesomorph but that was with the first version and the second version which I still have 1/2 container in my freezer and I only use it like once every 6 weeks or so because I rotate all my stim products every workout. When I do finally finish it I don't think I will be purchasing the new version with the creatine nitrate because of lot reviews from people who have used the old versions with excellent results and the newer version they said feels nothing like the first two versions. A preworkout powder that I picked up 2 months ago that I love is JP8X Extreme aka (Peligro) by Diesel Nutrition this stuff is fantastic the workouts I have had on this were great. All I need is 1 1/4 -1 1/2 scoops and 45 min later I am in the zone and it only has 150mg of caffeine per scoop. One thing about JP8X if you can't tolerate drinking something that taste like pure vitamins this product is not for you but if you can this powder it is one of the best. I have had 5 workouts with it in the past two months and I never use the same preworkout supplement that many times in two months but I couldn't believe the great focus I was getting during my workouts. I have about 12 different products that I rotate each workout and the next preworkout I plan on picking up is Craze I love the fact that it doesn't have much caffeine but from the reviews that I have been reading most people are saying the energy and focus are incredible. I am hoping on receiving a sample for and if I do and I like it I will definatly purchase it on my next order.
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Love JP8. Miss the old lemonade flavor. Hard as shît, but I could take it. I've loved of of Chucks products and have quite a stash of them. You buy them when u can cause they are always out of production for so long.
 
poison said:
Launch 4350 (tasty powder), and Launch (pills).
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Suppose to be the same? Taken as a stack? Not familiar with it, but looks interesting.
 
Maximize Intense blew my hair off. I have to go see a doctor to start hair growth therapy. It's nuts :)
 
CopyCat said:
Suppose to be the same? Taken as a stack? Not familiar with it, but looks interesting.
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No, not at all. 4350 provides some intense focus, some of the best around, and few people crash on it. Launch pills feel a bit stronger on the physical energy side, and the citrulline/nitrates/beta alanine provide more performance and pumps. Nothing beats 4350 for locked-the-****-in focus, though, and it's so damn tasty! Watermelon FTW!
 
poison said:
No, not at all. 4350 provides some intense focus, some of the best around, and few people crash on it. Launch pills feel a bit stronger on the physical energy side, and the citrulline/nitrates/beta alanine provide more performance and pumps. Nothing beats 4350 for locked-the-****-in focus, though, and it's so damn tasty! Watermelon FTW!
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thats what i love the most about a preworkout is the focus...i gotta find me some of this stuff to try!
 
One thing I have to watch but it's hard. As these products keep getting stronger to accodate the growing need for stronger products my tollerance keeps going up. It has to stop somewhere... oh well we have revamp :)
 
th3futur3 said:
Maximize Intense blew my hair off. I have to go see a doctor to start hair growth therapy. It's nuts :)
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REALLY looking forward to this one & seeing how it compares to Mv2/Hemavol...

poison said:
No, not at all. 4350 provides some intense focus, some of the best around, and few people crash on it. Launch pills feel a bit stronger on the physical energy side, and the citrulline/nitrates/beta alanine provide more performance and pumps. Nothing beats 4350 for locked-the-****-in focus, though, and it's so damn tasty! Watermelon FTW!
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Launch! :32: Def in my top 3 pre's...if not #1...
 
southpaw23 said:
Craze > eats the comp. Not jittery but hyperfocused like George Bush reading a book upside down.
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Lol.
 
poison said:
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Seriously. ;) If you haven't tried it, you should.
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Poison you need to seriously send me a few samples of this, looks tasty!
 
To answer the thread, of all of them I tried, here are the stongest in no particular order:
Muscle Marinade - I literally felt hungover from it
Jack3d (old theophyilline formula) - 3 scoops was insane and the crash was equally epic
Craze - A different kind of potent that still lets you sleep at night
Maximize V2 - 1 scoop and you are flying, 1.5 and I was unstoppable (not in a good way either)
Scivation Vasocharge - 2 scoops was potent for me (one of hte first I had though) It would keep me up if I went over 1 scoop, amazing pumps from this stuff too.

I never tried Ready 4 War like I wanted to but Get Diesel is on my never buy again list so I will just have to wonder.
 
I just got my mail and inside I had a sample of craze ! Thanks DS. I'll try this tonight

And then I start my maximize intense log sometime this week. I will be back in here to Comment on both products
 
Muscle Marinade is excellent but Musclesportinternational lean revolution is the strongest i have taken and the Fight revolution is killer for focus. The SAN products look killer i have to try them.
 
Lean Max Revolution is my personal favorite, but i havent tried the abundance that most of you have.

Also I cant post a link or picture to it yet due to small number of posts.
 
Sudden Impact RTD. It has 2 servings, took 1.5 servings and i was shaking and trembling had a crazy headache felt like ****. took the .5 serving the next day and it was pretty good lol
 
VaughnTrue said:
Maximize Intense is about to take pre-workouts to a whole new level :D
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Yah I am excited about the new Ignite 2, I will be frank with you I wasn't real pleased with the taste of Ignite and it needed to be a bit stronger for me, but from what I hear the taste as been vastly improved and it is much stronger. I am sure they will both be good products... Kudos to both companies for constantly improving their products...
 
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