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Has anyone tried vidasupps BioforgeV3 clone?

Hahahah. These dumbasses at bb.com are actually laughable btw, grown men getting so worked up hahaha
 
Do tell t50. The few tomes I have read over there about this it cracked me up.
 
T50 said:
Here's the thread lol

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for the record, why do you have itsdodge's name in your sig on that other site? i've been following all of the threads over there, and it seems that thehuge is throwing in lots of defamatory allegations about a competing product, and lots of nut huggers, well, hugging.

i don't get how they can get so worked up. will their world end if tests come back and prove that it is the same as bioforge v3?
 
coontentment said:
for the record, why do you have itsdodge's name in your sig on that other site? i've been following all of the threads over there, and it seems that thehuge is throwing in lots of defamatory allegations about a competing product, and lots of nut huggers, well, hugging.

i don't get how they can get so worked up. will their world end if tests come back and prove that it is the same as bioforge v3?
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Nut hugging doesn't even describe what's going on, full out dick sucking. I don't understand why they are so emotional about it either, like a bunch of girls. They think I was sooo wrong for asking about the effects of BF but they see that it's perfectly fine that Biotivia wrongly accused VidaSupps of credit card fraud. Some way of thinking.

And he's in my sig because in a totally unrelated thread, he was very offended that I said LX didn't work for me and that I have a list of supps in my sig that list supps that worked and didnt work for me. He basically told me to remove it so I laughed and then dedicated the list to him. Kids a ***got
 
coontentment said:
i don't get how they can get so worked up. will their world end if tests come back and prove that it is the same as bioforge v3?
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Exactly, even if the tests prove Vitatest is legit, Vitasupps will not be competing with Biotiva. Biotiva has built a strong name and reputation, even if some forum users switch over its really a small circle here.
 
ax1 said:
Exactly, even if the tests prove Vitatest is legit, Vitasupps will not be competing with Biotiva. Biotiva has built a strong name and reputation, even if some forum users switch over its really a small circle here.
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this really hasn't been considered to them. just because there is a clone, there are a lot of people that would not buy out of respect to bioforge. i get the feeling though, that a lot of those people bashing t50 on that forum would still buy vidasupps. and why not? it's a lot cheaper overall.
 
T50 said:
Nut hugging doesn't even describe what's going on, full out dick sucking. I don't understand why they are so emotional about it either, like a bunch of girls. They think I was sooo wrong for asking about the effects of BF but they see that it's perfectly fine that Biotivia wrongly accused VidaSupps of credit card fraud. Some way of thinking.

And he's in my sig because in a totally unrelated thread, he was very offended that I said LX didn't work for me and that I have a list of supps in my sig that list supps that worked and didnt work for me. He basically told me to remove it so I laughed and then dedicated the list to him. Kids a ***got
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I'm gonna rep you just for the amount of hate you get from those weirdos @ BB.com. The blind loyalty factor over there makes me sick.
 
In response to all this outcry of cloning of "innovation" and supporting the "innovation" company, I decided to further investigate and I found that Bioforge is basically a half clone of another product sold only in Europe, and a half clone of their old product.

Anyone interested in my findings?

I can start by telling everyone that Biotiva is not the first company to sell Shilijat and Ashwaganda combo in a bodybuilding supplement.
 
troll
 
ax1 said:
In response to all this outcry of cloning of "innovation" and supporting the "innovation" company, I decided to further investigate and I found that Bioforge is basically a half clone of another product sold only in Europe, and a half clone of their old product.

Anyone interested in my findings?

I can start by telling everyone that Biotiva is not the first company to sell Shilijat and Ashwaganda combo in a bodybuilding supplement.
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Admin said:
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lol Nice Ax1
 
Oh go on then, I will bite... but only because you made this fish look so juicy.

What did you find?
 
ax1 said:
Yeah right, I wouldnt be surprised if your sitting there playing pocket pool waiting for me to post my findings!
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Actually, don't care :lol:


I just wonder how many people pushing the innovation line buy generic anything. If you want to be loyal to a company then thats cool..nobody is going to knock you for that..its a noble thing..but you have to apply that for everything. When you're 65 spending $500 a month on prescription drugs, don't buy the generic versions for $100. Everyone is a hypocrite at times....
 
So here it is, Biotiva made a clone of V2, Max and Peak Adaptogen. Basically, Bioforge V3 is Peak Adaptogen with added test boosters, zinc and vitamin d has been used in their old product, not sure they used longjack before but its very common anyways.

The point is, unless a company clones a patented ingredient, claims of supporting "innovation" are sometimes laughable.

Adaptogen
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[TD="class: Inhalt, colspan: 3"]Rhodiola-Rosae extract, ginseng extract, Ashwagandha extract, Shilajit, collagen protein (capsul), lubricant: magnesium stearate.[/TD]
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I realize its not a outrageous evidence that proves anything, and Im not trying to. We would have to look into it and I know Biotiva and Vidasupps could have superior extracts, but I just think some people need to relax with dogmatism actions when it comes to using words such as "innovation."
 
So Ax....let me get this straight. Biotivia is also not innovative? :rofl:

This whole thing is so silly. There are hardly any companies that are truly innovative, that bring new and unheard of products to the market. They all take ideas from others and try it elsewhere with their own combinations.

So silly
 
AE14 said:
So Ax....let me get this straight. Biotivia is also not innovative? :rofl:
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With the V3 I did actually assumed somewhat as I never heard of Shilijat. What stood out to me the most was the Shilijat. I never seen it used in a bodybuilding product and thought it was unique to the bb industry until I find this out.
 
I also believe IBE used it along time ago as well. Cant remember for what though
 
Bro you're not going to suck thehuge's wildly creative and innovative dick? OMG blasphemy!! You can get lynched for this over on bb.com

Seriously though, cool findings.
 
Peak is a very good brand of supplements, well known in Europe, especially Germany. I did not know that among his list of supplements had a product equal to BioForge 3.
 
Evil said:
Peak is a very good brand of supplements, well known in Europe, especially Germany. I did not know that among his list of supplements had a product equal to BioForge 3.
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I wouldnt call it equal, as bioforge has just 2 of the major adaptogen components of the Peak product, but tweaked for additional test boosting.

You can basically use the Peak Adaptogen, add in some bulk DAA and in a way you made your own Bioforge with extra adaptogens.
 
ax1 said:
With the V3 I did actually assumed somewhat as I never heard of Shilijat. What stood out to me the most was the Shilijat. I never seen it used in a bodybuilding product and thought it was unique to the bb industry until I find this out.
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Shilajit used to be in Poseidon by Nimbus

*Poseidon Complex?: Ascorbic Acid, Cyanocobalamin, Folic Acid, L-Glutamine, Magnesium Carbonate, Magnesium Phosphate, Magnesium Sulfate, Methylcobalamin, Niacin, Potassium Bicarbonate, Potassium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Shilajit, Sodium Bicarbonate, Sodium Chloride, Taurine, Zinc Gluconate.

 
Feel The Burn said:
Shilajit used to be in Poseidon by Nimbus

*Poseidon Complex?: Ascorbic Acid, Cyanocobalamin, Folic Acid, L-Glutamine, Magnesium Carbonate, Magnesium Phosphate, Magnesium Sulfate, Methylcobalamin, Niacin, Potassium Bicarbonate, Potassium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Shilajit, Sodium Bicarbonate, Sodium Chloride, Taurine, Zinc Gluconate.
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edit: let me re-phrase that, lol

Since its a prop blend I wonder how much Silajit was really in the product?
 
Hard to tell unless your just taking it solo....which I am not.
 
Lab tests here, Lab tests there, lol no lab tests at all, we dont know what the hell the product is.

Anyways Ive been on it for a while, its hard to tell since Im not taking it standalone and plus Im going through dramatic dietary changes.

One standout thing about Vidatest is that Ive been having vivid crazy dreams on a consistent basis and I dont believe its anything else Ive taken since Ive taken everything else before.
 
ax1 said:
Lab tests here, Lab tests there, lol no lab tests at all, we dont know what the hell the product is.

Anyways Ive been on it for a while, its hard to tell since Im not taking it standalone and plus Im going through dramatic dietary changes.

One standout thing about Vidatest is that Ive been having vivid crazy dreams on a consistent basis and I dont believe its anything else Ive taken since Ive taken everything else before.
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are you logging it?


i'd love to see ANY lab tests... the fact the thehuge has not posted any seems indicative of the results actually...
 
coontentment said:
are you logging it?


i'd love to see ANY lab tests... the fact the thehuge has not posted any seems indicative of the results actually...
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No, and Im stacking it with other products as well.

I can state that my libido has been excellent and my dreams are strange on a nightly basis.
 
ax1 said:
No, and Im stacking it with other products as well.I can state that my libido has been excellent and my dreams are strange on a nightly basis.
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Sounds like the same results Bioforge V3 users are experiencing. (The dreams and libido)
 
I have had some weird dreams.
 
I'm taking Shilajit and Ashwagandha and experiencing vivid dreams.
 
I'm running Vida Test right now. I'm into my second week. I would like to buy a bottle of BioForge V3 and compare the two but the BioForge version is out of stock everywhere except on Amazon where it's 55 bucks a bottle. My guess is that VidaSupps is competing for the raws for this product.
 
I have run BioForge V3 and now am running VidaTest, its the same but VidaTest uses my preferred form of Long Jack. VidaTest FTW and its CHEAPER!!!!!!!!
 
andrew732 said:
I have run BioForge V3 and now am running VidaTest, its the same but VidaTest uses my preferred form of Long Jack. VidaTest FTW and its CHEAPER!!!!!!!!
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tis goodstuff
 
andrew732 said:
I have run BioForge V3 and now am running VidaTest, its the same but VidaTest uses my preferred form of Long Jack. VidaTest FTW and its CHEAPER!!!!!!!!
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What about the difference in zinc? Zinc Picolinate vs Zinc Citrate? Some say there is a difference.
 
BBB said:
What about the difference in zinc? Zinc Picolinate vs Zinc Citrate? Some say there is a difference.
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Based on a study done, pilconate seems to be the most body preffered but many including myself still benefit plenty from the chelated form of zinc which is zinc citrate. So, if there is a difference, its little.
 
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