Guest viewing limit reached
  • You have reached the maximum number of guest views allowed
  • Please register below to remove this limitation

Mattrag is Dream'n LEAN with EndoSurge!! (BPS sponsored)

packers6211 said:
For reals mang he insane yo!!
Click to expand...

Haha. Yea I'm nuts for trying this. But I'm looking the leanest ever. It's odd. Lol. Looking full, lean, but omg I'm sore as hell, tired, irritable, feel like death.

I actually got in two more workouts and two judo sessions.. Will post them soon.
 
Workout for Wednesday:

Bench press/one arm shoulder press

135x10/35x8
135x10/35x8
155x8/35x8
185x10/35x8
185x10/35x8
185x9/35x8
185x10/35x8

CG bench

135x10
135x10

Tricep band ext.
10 each side twice.


Good workout. Joints are dead though. I'm cracking like when I was on hdrol.

Thursdays "if you think you can still lift" workout

5s

Bench press/bent over rows/roman deads

135x5
155x5
185x5
205x5

Dropped the bench

225x5
245x5

One set of concentration curls @35lbs for 12 reps.

Then hit judo for 2hrs...

Today (Friday) I'm eating protein. I'm gonna die soon if I don't.
 
Man the Blueprint 3.0 sounds crazy. That diet may work but no fuggin way!!!! Lean Gains works and it keeps me HAPPY while it is working that is the most important for me. Keep killing it and hopefully the Blueprint does something AMAZING enough for you that you feel it is worth not having the protein. If not then the results aren't worth the effort.

Alternate day fasting would give you the same effect you are looking for without not having protein for 5 days. I am curious to see what this does and I am sure it will work but the question is once again are the results far enough above and beyond the status quo of any good diet to justify the means? I do lean gains because it is easy happy and rewording on a physical, emotional and palatable scale. Be happy not torturous in your journey. The arrival at the destination should not be the only fun you are having.

Kudos to you for giving it the effort.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Man the Blueprint 3.0 sounds crazy. That diet may work but no fuggin way!!!! Lean Gains works and it keeps me HAPPY while it is working that is the most important for me. Keep killing it and hopefully the Blueprint does something AMAZING enough for you that you feel it is worth not having the protein. If not then the results aren't worth the effort.

Alternate day fasting would give you the same effect you are looking for without not having protein for 5 days. I am curious to see what this does and I am sure it will work but the question is once again are the results far enough above and beyond the status quo of any good diet to justify the means? I do lean gains because it is easy happy and rewording on a physical, emotional and palatable scale. Be happy not torturous in your journey. The arrival at the destination should not be the only fun you are having.

Kudos to you for giving it the effort.
Click to expand...

Hehe, Like I said this is just an experiment. The lack of protein from my diet hasnt really done much for me cept make me really hungry for what my body was used to eating. Going to see if the addition of protein back into the diet will cause a spike in protein synthesis, or some MEAN fat storing cause my body is just pissed off with me lol. Either way Im loggin it. And making some adjustments. The BP main take away I think is that you should be shifting your training, and diet in order to keep the body out of homostasis ... or some word like that... Im pretty dang beat from not eating... haha

Anyway, he does promote IF, ADF as well. He suggests to take what works for you and not be afraid to combine things and try it out. But make sure you know what is working. Dont read the mag and be like OMFG Jay Cutler works out like this I MUST workout like this too. But Kleen... you already know that and I have a feeling his recomp training is VERY similar to your training. Well the core anyway.
 
Good God bro that is a freaking freak of nature workout. You got a great mind set bro.
 
Hey bro, how long are you following the protein fast for? I don't know if i could mentallly get through the idea of not having protein lol. But glad it's working man
 
SizeUp said:
Hey bro, how long are you following the protein fast for? I don't know if i could mentallly get through the idea of not having protein lol. But glad it's working man
Click to expand...

This, i REALLY have been wanting to experiment with lower protein levels and see if i can still grow but i'm too much of a wimp :(
 
packers6211 said:
Good God bro that is a freaking freak of nature workout. You got a great mind set bro.
Click to expand...

Oh yea I love working out! I think thats the main reason why my progress is stopped though. Like I said I lack programming power and the understanding of rest and recovery lol. So I can workout starved for days most likely out of pure adrenaline.. but then I end up crashing REAL hard. I dont get sick, I my body sends me other signals, appetite goes down, I get REALLY bad headaches, body aches etc.... But yea I love to workout, most ppl say Im insane....


Resolve said:
Go, the ribs and steaks and eggs and chickens and pigs beckon! FEAST! :food:
Click to expand...

Oh yes, today I ate 8 drummettes, about 1lb of hamburger, fried rice. Off to a bbq now... haha.
stopstalking said:
Get your protein on !
Click to expand...

PROTEIN PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VolcomX311 said:
bench/rows/deads combo looked exhausting. Nice job with those.
Click to expand...
Yea that I must say was something insane. Benched off the bottom position, then got up, lifted it off the rack then did the rows, then romans... My forerams were FRIED!!!
Loved it. haha!

stopstalking said:
Yea i would die. Keep killing it my man!
Click to expand...
Ive put my body through worse... honestly I have haha.
SizeUp said:
Hey bro, how long are you following the protein fast for? I don't know if i could mentallly get through the idea of not having protein lol. But glad it's working man
Click to expand...
Protein fast for 5 days, then back to normal. Not THAT bad if you think about it. I had a really hard time getting into IF. Then I read on protein sparing effects of not digesting protein on the IF site I think it was. So I figured meh... whatever, 5 days haha. Ill try it.
GOT SUPER lean though, seemed like I lost 1% bf in that 5 day span... Lost around 3.5kgs.... 5kgs if you count from my indian buffet the sunday before lol.


thetinyguy said:
This, i REALLY have been wanting to experiment with lower protein levels and see if i can still grow but i'm too much of a wimp :(
Click to expand...

When growing I donno, recomping it might be a good idea to try it out to increase protein synthesis on the over compensation curve. But Id only do that after gains stop. ;)
 
I just read about a meat buffet, sounds pretty bomb to me. After that carb deal you did, I would devour meat like my life depended on it.
 
oufinny said:
I just read about a meat buffet, sounds pretty bomb to me. After that carb deal you did, I would devour meat like my life depended on it.
Click to expand...

Oh man I'm eating loads!!
Haha. Sat pretty much one cheat meal. Just stuffed all my macros into two meals. Not really a cheat. Just not spread out.

Tomorrow will be good.
Monday I'm lowering intake a small bit and starting the mean workouts. I'm gonna enjoy killing the iron next week!
 
mattrag said:
Oh man I'm eating loads!!
Haha. Sat pretty much one cheat meal. Just stuffed all my macros into two meals. Not really a cheat. Just not spread out.

Tomorrow will be good.
Monday I'm lowering intake a small bit and starting the mean workouts. I'm gonna enjoy killing the iron next week!
Click to expand...

Hey Matt, random question, how's that whole radiation situation going over there? I was listening to news radio the other night and they were talking about some areas are more contaminated then the public was lead to believe. What's the word on the street over there? Still a concern or bygones?
 
I am sure you are going to feel much better next week after the protein intake, I know I feel much better the days after my workouts as my cals were much higher those days. Also, my carbs are up those days so I am more energetic even on the lower cal days. Are you going to continue to cycle this diet this way?
 
yea 5 days doesn't sound to bad... and the theory behind it is that it will help increase protein synthesis after fast?
 
VolcomX311 said:
Hey Matt, random question, how's that whole radiation situation going over there? I was listening to news radio the other night and they were talking about some areas are more contaminated then the public was lead to believe. What's the word on the street over there? Still a concern or bygones?
Click to expand...

Actually, it has calmed down. Only because most likely the govt has hushed it up. Plus... the govt here is SO unstable. We have had like 5 different prime ministers since Ive been here... so in 2 years... plus... the elections are done by the county reps... so the corruption is insane. Another thing you can get impeached instantly.. So the whole handling and blaming of the whole event... is ridiculous... I think most ppl here just believe that the govt (whoever it is) will do what is right for the people.. THey think if it was something wrong then they, the govt, would let us know... I donno, the whole event is insane...its like if you look there is loads of conspiracy theory, and hush hush stuff... but yea... tbh Im worried, but there is really NOTHING I can do. So I just take care of what I can. Keep eating foods from nearby (Im in Kyuushuu so we arent near the radiation... well not that near...), and try to get all my meats from australia. hehe

Its all but forgotten by most ppl.. Japan is good at keeping their citizens SO busy that they just dont have time to worry about this stuff.
 
oufinny said:
I am sure you are going to feel much better next week after the protein intake, I know I feel much better the days after my workouts as my cals were much higher those days. Also, my carbs are up those days so I am more energetic even on the lower cal days. Are you going to continue to cycle this diet this way?
Click to expand...


Hehe, feeling better. I think it leaned me out overall. The only problem I have with this diet is with the influx of protein I think I need to actually keep my fats HIGH. Or my digestive track gets DESTROYED. I had soo much gas and stomach irritation yesterday and today that I almost couldnt eat... well ALMOST I still ate like 10 chicken thighs, and 1lb of hamburger for dinner at the BBQ.

As far as continuing the diet I would have to say I will decide when the time comes. I have experienced good body changes with a high carb, high protein, low fat diet. Only thing that tanks is my performance. Oddly. So what I plan to do is see how this diet works for me. Im 100% sure that the endosurge has kept me sane. I heard on the Blue Print main site forums that sleep, fatigue, etc. was almost unbearable. But I felt okay even though I ate at 1/2 the recommended intake which was BWX8, I went to BWX4... Definitely, had Libido TANK, felt like a wuss the whole week. Not only that my skin was drying, felt "yellow" (Think I mentioned this b4). But from yesterday I "woke up" lol. It has to do with the food intake im sure, but the I feel that the endosurge made the kick back even better. I dont think many people experienced a HUGE libido influx, and the sleep... was impressive. Went from feeling like I got hit by a truck, then the truck stopped and ran me over again and again and again, to OMG I could lift that fcking TRUCK.


We shall see tomorrow how my lifting goes. I might lift tonight though if I feel good
 
SizeUp said:
yea 5 days doesn't sound to bad... and the theory behind it is that it will help increase protein synthesis after fast?
Click to expand...

The whole theory is that the body will be in a VERY stressed state. With only fruits and veggies, very little nuts, and heavy quick 20-30min concentric failure type workouts we tell the body we are basically dying. Then we increase food intake by 3 or so, then the body which is catabolic because of food intake but anabolic because of exercise stimulus and muscle breakdown, will ride the anabolic curve because of food but because we got the anabolic response of food and the muscle protein sparing from the stress of exercise we can ride both the anabolic effect of food and the anabolic effect of needing to overcompensate from the lack of food.

With that said, why not just always over eat and train? Well Im sure everyone knows... the body gets used to it. If we could all do that we'd all look like the Hulk. So this is a way to take advantage of the over compensation curve in a "different" way.

In the book it's not explained this way, this is my observation. It works though. I know it does because while I was protein fasting. I figured I would be going through MEAN blood glucose swings with just eating fruits... something I stayed away from in the past. But I experienced NONE of this. I only had the whole psychological withdraws of not having my steak and chicken breasts every day. AND I got SUPER LEAN. I have never been leaner than I was on Friday. I would've taken pics but if I did I might not be able to get there again lol.
So I think my body's normal amino acid pool was okay with the 5 days w/o aminos because exercise was not taken to failure, and was short. Also, my body would use what aminos it had to still be anabolic like usual. So now we see how far I can bump the over compensation curve ;)
 
Invalid Link Removed

started this log about a week ago. Gut health. You guys can see my horrible history about my digestion. Hopefully this Gut Health supplement will allow me to eat and absorb nutrients better. ;)
 
mattrag said:
The whole theory is that the body will be in a VERY stressed state. With only fruits and veggies, very little nuts, and heavy quick 20-30min concentric failure type workouts we tell the body we are basically dying. Then we increase food intake by 3 or so, then the body which is catabolic because of food intake but anabolic because of exercise stimulus and muscle breakdown, will ride the anabolic curve because of food but because we got the anabolic response of food and the muscle protein sparing from the stress of exercise we can ride both the anabolic effect of food and the anabolic effect of needing to overcompensate from the lack of food.

With that said, why not just always over eat and train? Well Im sure everyone knows... the body gets used to it. If we could all do that we'd all look like the Hulk. So this is a way to take advantage of the over compensation curve in a "different" way.

In the book it's not explained this way, this is my observation. It works though. I know it does because while I was protein fasting. I figured I would be going through MEAN blood glucose swings with just eating fruits... something I stayed away from in the past. But I experienced NONE of this. I only had the whole psychological withdraws of not having my steak and chicken breasts every day. AND I got SUPER LEAN. I have never been leaner than I was on Friday. I would've taken pics but if I did I might not be able to get there again lol.
So I think my body's normal amino acid pool was okay with the 5 days w/o aminos because exercise was not taken to failure, and was short. Also, my body would use what aminos it had to still be anabolic like usual. So now we see how far I can bump the over compensation curve ;)
Click to expand...
Thanks for explaining man!
 
mattrag said:
Invalid Link Removed

started this log about a week ago. Gut health. You guys can see my horrible history about my digestion. Hopefully this Gut Health supplement will allow me to eat and absorb nutrients better. ;)
Click to expand...

Ahh brother i hope it works for you, as I may get some too. My digestion sucks. I have to be extra carefull on what I eat even if it's 5pm I can still suffer from acid foods.
 
packers6211 said:
Ahh brother i hope it works for you, as I may get some too. My digestion sucks. I have to be extra carefull on what I eat even if it's 5pm I can still suffer from acid foods.
Click to expand...

Yea I been thinking that i need to balance my PH load now. Since I was poor I took out a lot of veggies and fruits but now i have a better budget for food so I am gonna add them back in. Hope it helps out... this weekends food intake was very bad... and my digestive track paid for it... in blood....
 
Good stuff Mattrag hope you enjoyed the protein fest!
 
Nice work man, lets see how fast your body soaks up all that protein now! Time to grow :D
 
mattrag said:
haha I can feel it all going into my back oddly. My back and bi's are pumped today lol. Its gonna be good :D
Click to expand...

That is awesome, i wish i could feel my muscles grow :disappointed:
 
Resolve said:
I can feel my gut grow after a cheat meal. ;)
Click to expand...

Haha tell me about it!

Just had 6 eggs/3 slices of cheese/1 slice swiss/colby/4 oz turkey breast and 2 slices whole grain toast. :D
 
Okay Week 3 DONE.

EndoSurge: This week the sleep was okay, given that the protocol I followed, protein fasting and only eating mostly fruits and veggies, was said to give most a hell of a time trying to sleep. I had trouble sleeping, but not that hard. Dreams were still there. Talk about dreams, last night I had the worst dream ever. WORST. I guess I'll talk about it, I have a free period now and have all my lesson plans and stuff for next period all squared away.
In my dream I somehow entered a world where we were fighting huge monsters. Basically , these monsters would eat ppl. I went from being on like some research/observatory mission to being the 2nd to the last person left that knew what these things were. Just FYI, I hate horror movies, grotesque movies, and haven't seen any of those end of the world zombie or whatever movies. So, here we are running away, and slowly, one by one all the people involved in this thing are being killed. And not in a happy way either. They get EATEN. And I am there... running in horror. So we run to the truck and the 3rd person, some lady, gets picked up by one of these things and is eaten, blood everywhere, thank god i'm in the truck. By the time the last person with me gets into the truck we are to escape in i'm thinking "Man.. I'm going to die...and I can't even fight these things". Oddly though through some "frame glitch" (Anyone who plays video knows what I am talking about), the monster's like thigh is in the truck but is not... haha... kinda gave me some comedic relief but still I was running for my life. Then as we are going down the hill in the truck, one big monster behind us, we look over the horizon and see a flock of them flying towards us.... I then proceed to get up. In my dreamy state I imagined those monsters in my room, hiding out.... I live in this VERY old building, its traditional japanese too... makes it look like a horror film I am told... But it is creepy... takes me around 20mins to get the courage to go pee and then I turn on SuperHumanRadio to try to re-attach to reality lol. Fell back to sleep but this time had some weird dream where we were at some beach festival and my mom was selling peanut butter cookies and starting her own business in that... a little better I think, but my mom... wasn't really there... And I had to perform (I was a musician before), but my gear was not there either.... Got up again finally, then thought "I better not lie down anymore... " and "Why can't I have the beautiful sex dreams I always wanted....?"

Well thats that for the dream thing. Aside from that the libido is up, notice from that last thought lol. Strength wise I think it's up. Just a tad bit if anything.

Combustion: This stuff is still delivering. It's getting colder here but I still sweat a lot in judo and during my workouts. More than normal. I noticed a great body composition change too. My rear delts are coming in pretty nicely I think .Even though I have not added ANY rear delt work lol.

Overall this stack is still giving me great gains and will be loving this last week. Then I'll be running RS Transaderm. See if I can recomp further. Still confused about the weight class thing. 90kgs, or 81kgs... I weigh around 86-88kgs normally... but I know i can cut to 81kgs pretty easily in 3 months for the next meet.... definitely growing to 90kgs of solid mass would be great but I don't know if it's possible w/o putting on too much fat. Hmm.... decisions, decisions.... All I know is as long as I am getting stronger and better at Judo i'm happy for now.
 
WO#1

Bench press (static)

WU
135X10
135X8
185X8
225X5

HOLD
315X15s
315X15s

*Wanted to start out light for this is the first time i'm doing statics.

EDT#1

1rm Bent over Row/CGbench (4-6 rep range)

WU row/dip
35lbsX10/bw
55lbsX10/bw
80lbsX10/bw

Working
110lbsx5/185X5
110lbsx5/185x5
110lbsx5/185x5
110lbsx5/185x5
110lbsx5/185x5
110lbsx5/185x5

6 sets, felt good, donno how I'm going to make my DB heavier... no space left on the bar....

BB Press statics.

WU
Barx20
Barx10
95X10
95X10
135X5

Statics (I did these by kneeling down and just lifting the bar off my rack and holding it)

185X15s
185X15s

EDT#2

Belt curls/overhead CG ext.

35lbsX5/60lbsX5
35lbsX5/60lbsX5
35lbsX5/60lbsX5

3 sets, joints felt bad. Too much pushing I think. Need to get used to this.

Pretty good workout, definitely feeling the "load" aspect. of the heavier weights through the statics. Hopefully, this will give me a boost in strength and some nice recomps through the EDT (supersets).
 
Only thing I wonder herd is are you losing g out on the extra protein synthesis created by endosurge by not supplying any protein while on? Are you using one thing to trick the body with more test which has a side of increased protein synthesis and then shooting yourself in the foot by spending a week starving the body of the very protein synthesis you have created through the use of endosurge? Isn't a week of heightened synthesis going to be higher than two days of increased synthesis. Just spitballing here...
 
MrKleen73 said:
Only thing I wonder herd is are you losing g out on the extra protein synthesis created by endosurge by not supplying any protein while on? Are you using one thing to trick the body with more test which has a side of increased protein synthesis and then shooting yourself in the foot by spending a week starving the body of the very protein synthesis you have created through the use of endosurge? Isn't a week of heightened synthesis going to be higher than two days of increased synthesis. Just spitballing here...
Click to expand...

The reasoning behind this is that the body can only grow/make changes in waves. And we should try to capitalize those waves and make the most of our diet and training during these times.
I think the main goal here in this protocol is to starve the body so it goes into a starved state. Very little protein in the diet causes the body be protein sparing. Odd I know, seeing most protein sparing fasts I've been on was ONLY protein. And this diet would keep us anti catabolic for the short time being because of the workout stimulation. Also, 5 days of going backwards to take 30-42 days of moving forward is not bad pay off. Then after that return protein levels to normal and in this case the body would synthesize more protein in order to make up for the time lost. Though all the time lost will most likely not be recovered, we get more out of the time frame because the body doesn't go into a homeostasis state as fast as it would if we just ate normal through the 35-47 days. This is all just speculation on my part, as I have never done this. Another thing is I believe that whole body adaption to training versus the glycogen depleting etc. is more where I want to focus. Like evolving the body as a whole in order to make physical changes. This little theory has been going on in my head for some time now and I feel that this type of diet protocol is a good one. I can tell one thing though, I have not lost any muscle mass on the 5 day famine, would I have built any? I doubt it.. I've been on recomp for a while now and muscles do seem fuller, weight down a bit, but my arms are the same size. 16.5inches flexed. taken before the fast, and after. I got one more week to grow them. We shall see if they grow any, seeing they've been 16.5 inches for around 6 months.
 
Oh, one more thing. It's 5 days of protein fast, then a feast period of 30-42 days. then 2 weeks of "Maintenance" before moving back to famine again and repeating the diet cycle.
 
mattrag said:
Oh, one more thing. It's 5 days of protein fast, then a feast period of 30-42 days. then 2 weeks of "Maintenance" before moving back to famine again and repeating the diet cycle.
Click to expand...

I like the feast part. I don't think i could do the rest
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top