Stim and Non Stim stack

[CJ_Xfit89]

If you could make a stack of each on a tight budget for energy and fat burning, what would you do?

 

[nattydisaster]

Alpha-T2 + Black Cat

SHIFT + OEP

Alpha-T2 + TEA-GCG (most mild in the stim department)

Super tight budget:

TEA-GCG + Caffeine

 

[mr.cooper69]

Stim:

EC
Alphaburn

Non-stim:

Reduce XT
Forskolin
TTA
Ultima

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

How does forskolin work? Same
As forslean in drive etc?

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

Forsalean the same as forskolin?

 

[mr.cooper69]

Yes, it's a patented form.

 

[R1balla]

Non Stim: HGHup + (add a test booster of your choice)

Stim: I actually really like yellow thunder

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

Non Stim: HGHup + (add a test booster of your choice)

Stim: I actually really like yellow thunder

Rpm lol

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

Yes, it's a patented form.

What does it actually do?
Are there any other ingredients that increase cAMP?

 

[mr.cooper69]

What does it actually do?
Are there any other ingredients that increase cAMP?

You just said it haha. Many ingredients can elevate cAMP, but I like forskolin for fat loss/mild tboosting/recomp purposes.

 

[criticalbench]

Dexaprime for its stimulant and metabolic properties, and TTA because it has been proven time and time again to be effective.

Mike

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

You just said it haha. Many ingredients can elevate cAMP, but I like forskolin for fat loss/mild tboosting/recomp purposes.

I thought it did lol
What ingridients are they?

 

[Ajerone]

Either way:
Quality GDA like Slin Sane

Stim:
E/C
MAN Scorch, ErgoBurn, Sub-Q
AlphaBurn
HEAT stack

Non-stim:
Lean Xtreme
Hemavol powder
DCP

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

Interesting...

Energy wise without 1,3...
Looking for vasodilation and "fat burning" to be precise...

 

[Goldx]

I heard stims can
Make you lose muscle....

 

[mr.cooper69]

I thought it did lol
What ingridients are they?

Some tboosting ingredients, etc.

Interesting...

Energy wise without 1,3...
Looking for vasodilation and "fat burning" to be precise...

Stims won't make you lose muscle.

Few stims will cause vasodilation. Just go with a light dose of ephedrine and caffeine if u want.

 

[Goldx]

Well they raise your c levels so that could lead to loss of mass right?

 

[nattydisaster]

I heard stims can
Make you lose muscle....

Stims like beta-agonists (ephedrine, higenamine, clen, methyl-synephrine, albuterol, etc) will actually preserve muscle while burning fat

These are also the likely compounds that will give vasodilation. Most stims will cause vasoconstriction

 

[kingjameskjf]

Few stims will cause vasodilation. Just go with a light dose of ephedrine and caffeine if u want.

Yohimbine is one mild stim that has vasodialating properties. I like taking 10 mg for a serving but my wife can only handle smaller doses.

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

So in other words t2 hahahah
I do like it...placebo or not I still sweat hard when running

 

[mr.cooper69]

Well they raise your c levels so that could lead to loss of mass right?

Transient and insignificant.

Yohimbine is one mild stim that has vasodialating properties. I like taking 10 mg for a serving but my wife can only handle smaller doses.

LOL!

So in other words t2 hahahah
I do like it...placebo or not I still sweat hard when running

Yeah, but he's not pimping, he's right (at least in skeletal muscle). Alpha-t2 is a great product.

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

I just found sulbutamol in my drawer in my old inhaler... Didn't even know until I saw that word and it's beta against properties