Better tbooster...opinions?

jdj16

jdj16

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I've been reading around about pes anabeta and I've seen a few logs but most if them were sponsored...any unbiased experience?

I've used sustain alpha td before and it was great as far as helping get everything going again and helping to keep my numbers up. Any idea how this might compare?
The rest of my pct (from an sd/trenazone run) is
Clomid
Vitc for cort control
Forma stanzol
Daa

Thoughts?
 
Your PCT looks fine as is

Save the anabeta for after PCT I would say
 
Add some BPS Endosurge to that and you would have one sick and effective pct.

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3clipseGT said:
Add some BPS Endosurge to that and you would have one sick and effective pct.

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do you really feel any kind of impact from the endosurge? it seems like a great idea in principle...but i'm usually pretty skeptical of natural supplements.

so maybe
clomid
forma
daa
endosurge
vit c

after pct, give the anabeta a shot?
 
T-Bone said:
He is a rep for BPS.
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While you are correct in this statement, he was looking to take DAA in PCT, which can raise prolactin, something you DONT want in PCT. Endosurge has Mucuna in it, which has the ability to lower prolactin. Also it has a very hefty dose of Nettle Root extract, which has the ability to free up test. So while i may be a rep for BPS, i truly believe that Endosurge would add yet another positive angle to his PCT.
 
Is there any merit to taking nettle root extract on its own? Can anyone shed some light on its moa for freeing up test?
 
I'd say the herbal Test boosters are all rubbish. I have tried many and they have never benefited my training whatsoever. Infact i'm sure one brand(testo anabol) made me feel a mess, bad guts, woosy, tired.
 
Man I think the best thing to do is try to find independant legit research on these things. I think the effects of nettle root is more hocus pocus and any stimulating effect is negligable.

I know there are studies(real scientific ones!) to support the use of DAA.
 
Yeah ill definitely attest to the benefits of daa. And I agree with you about the herbal stuff being mostly junk...with one exception. I've done 2 pct's...both the same serm (nolva ). The first I didn't use a t booster...the second I did and while I didn't necessarily "feel" any different I gained strength in my pct ...while the time without it I was losing about half of what id gained.
 
jdj16 said:
Yeah ill definitely attest to the benefits of daa. And I agree with you about the herbal stuff being mostly junk...with one exception. I've done 2 pct's...both the same serm (nolva ). The first I didn't use a t booster...the second I did and while I didn't necessarily "feel" any different I gained strength in my pct ...while the time without it I was losing about half of what id gained.
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Whats the nolva the same? Was the steroid the same? Diet? Sleep? lifestlye? LOL

I think there are so many variables. I'm certainly not dismissing your findings you may have stumbled on something, but for me all this fengreek, tribulus, cow dick flake potions don't do anything other than in the mind.
 
jdj16 said:
Is there any merit to taking nettle root extract on its own? Can anyone shed some light on its moa for freeing up test?
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Divanil is claimed to raise free test by binding to SHBG, although there is also a risk of more estrogen. Estrogen is also bound to SHBG and has a lower affinity to SHBG so we can expect more of it to be displaced. Also with an increase in free test there are more chances for its aromatization to e2.

You won't really know without bloods done but I would save the divanil for after PCT as well and stack with an AI and some DAA and you will have a nice natty stack.
 
Gotcha. Thanks for all the advice and opinions guys I really appreciate it. Looks like y'all saved me 40 bucks lol.
 
jdj16 said:
Gotcha. Thanks for all the advice and opinions guys I really appreciate it. Looks like y'all saved me 40 bucks lol.
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No problem

And just to be clear I was NOT advising against endosurge at all. It is a very high quality product and all of the logs I have seen on it and every other 3,4 divanil product have been great! I actually enjoy it myself and as I said, stack it with DAA and a AI and you got a helluva stack. Toss in some LCLT and you are golden! The DAA will raise test with the AI keeping estrogen in check, the mucuna helping keep prolactin in check, the divanil raising free test and the LCLT increasing receptors for the test. A VERY solid natty stack IMO and great to use after your PCT!

Something like: Erase/DAA/Endosurge/LCLT would be great.
 
I hear ya man no worries. I guess I have one more question...I've seen some guys wait rill like day 15 of pct to use a cort antagonist or an ai. What's the reasoning behind this?
 
jdj16 said:
I hear ya man no worries. I guess I have one more question...I've seen some guys wait rill like day 15 of pct to use a cort antagonist or an ai. What's the reasoning behind this?
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Because that is when cortisol technically spikes. I use them from day one tho, cortisol rises right after you stop taking your PH. Not to the degree around day 15-18 of pct but is pretty high.

I would also consider HCGenerate for your T booster. As mentioned, use the anabeta in PCT
 
jdj16 said:
I've been reading around about pes anabeta and I've seen a few logs but most if them were sponsored...any unbiased experience?

I've used sustain alpha td before and it was great as far as helping get everything going again and helping to keep my numbers up. Any idea how this might compare?
The rest of my pct (from an sd/trenazone run) is
Clomid
Vitc for cort control
Forma stanzol
Daa

Thoughts?
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If SA has worked well for you in the past I would stick with it. I personally like the addition of DAA as well
 
What about the ai? Should I dose it from the very beginning? Or start in the middle? I've never used one before and am kind of in the dark a little bit.
 
jdj16 said:
What about the ai? Should I dose it from the very beginning? Or start in the middle? I've never used one before and am kind of in the dark a little bit.
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This is a debate thats gone on forever between AI's and SERMS. If your going to use a SERM id dose the SERM as usual and low dose an AI, like 1 cap. Week 2, 1 cap, week 3, 2 caps week 4, 2-3 caps. Then with clomid week 1 normal dose, week 2 normal dose, week 3 lower it, week 4 lower it. Does that make sense?
 
I think I got you...basically taper both-with the ai going up (and eventually down again to prevent a rebound?) And the seem going down farther into pct
 
jdj16 said:
I think I got you...basically taper both-with the ai going up (and eventually down again to prevent a rebound?) And the seem going down farther into pct
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Taper down the SERM and taper up the AI

EX

Clomid
75/50/25/25

Formastanzol
00/05/08/10/08/05---total pumps a day

You want to be on a AI when ending the serm to prevent estrogen rebound.
 
Can someone fill in all the blanks caused by all the abbreviations?

DAA
AI
ya know!

I'm new at lifting (first post here too) 9 months and I'm 52yo. I've been looking for a site like this to help me figure this "stuff" out. At my age I feel I need some help. I've never been really muscular...other than some big forearms (mechanic all my life)...all of my wives (3) feel in love with my big hand and thick forearms.

I've come a long ways in 9 months...I have used some "stuff", but not knowing what I was doing, so it may have helped, but I'm not certain. My current wife, who I dated in high school, told me I have never looked this good...so there has been a nice transformation. BUT I want to be bigger! Not competition size or strongman big...One of the best compliments I received has been I look like one of those UFC cage fighter. So for someone going 50 years without any defined muscle...I'm pleased, but want a little more.

Sorry for the derail, but wanted to give a little back ground seeing how this is a first post.....
 
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