thetinyguy
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Happening to me right now as we speak. No clue!
2011 ScottyDoc's famous FINAFLEX sponsored Hallow-Lean / 16wk SHREDDDD!!!
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Happening to me right now as we speak. No clue!
Meister
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Maybe it's your level of AWSOMENESS
thetinyguy
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I wish..... :sour:
Milas
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It depends if you said something cool or not...
Meister
Active member
AWWWWEEEE SHIZA! I'M DOOMED!!!
musclerican
Member
Same here lol
thundergod
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Well, I'm on a gram of Cypionate weekly plus 350mg of NPP and 350mg of Winstrol.........so yeah, I know all about the yelling at inanimate objects..........and animate ones too!!!
MrKleen73
Legend
Man if I had any schooling that would be awesome. I have a GED and some vocational computer classes under my belt but that is it believe it or not. I would love to teach though. I just can't take a pay cut much less go back to school and get those loans to do so. Took me a long time to get my head right now I am just trying to keep my kids from taking my hard knocks path...
thetinyguy
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Good man right here, the thing is hopefully they listen because you know some kids just rebel against anything and everything. I'm just about done with school with an auto science degree. Nothing really too exciting though.
ScottyDoc
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Do you have a LOG running that I don't know about, I would love to see before and after pictures of that cycle, you already look amazing, you're gonna be HUGE, well HUGER Than HUGE because you're already HUGE... MEGA-HUGE!!!
lukehayd
Legend
So you're saying that your head is RIGHT now!? LOL! I hear ya on the trying to keep your kids from following in your stupid ways! I'll probably be bald or in prison by time my daughter graduates high school! (She's not even 2 years old yet!)
thetinyguy
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x2 I'd sub to that log!!
thundergod
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No......no log running. Not into that anymore. Just tryin' to pop in and help others when I can.
thetinyguy
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Either way let us know what your results are like??
ScottyDoc
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Day 47 - 08/26/2011 - Light Legs ($hit was harder than Heavy Leg Day)
Exercise 1: Glute Kick Back Machine
Set 1 - 110Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 2 - 110Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 3 - 110Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 4 - 110Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Exercise 2: Single Leg Curls
Set 1 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 2 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 3 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 4 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 5 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 6 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
* OK, so I was taking like 2 mins rest between sets, they were killing me, each set of both legs was liking running a hundred yard dash as fast as I could...
Exercise 3: Leg Extensions
Set 1 - 110Lbs for 25 reps (toes in)
Set 2 - 110Lbs for 25 reps (toes out)
Set 3 - 110Lbs for 25 reps (toes in)
Set 4 - 90Lbs for 25 reps (toes out)
Set 5 - 90Lbs for 25 reps (toes in)
Set 6 - 90Lbs for 25 reps (toes out)
Exercise 4: Hip ABduction and ADduction (really two exercises, but I always do them in conjunction)
Set 1 - 300Lbs for 25 reps ABduction, immediately followed by 210Lbs for 25 reps of ADduction
Set 2 - 300Lbs for 25 reps ABduction, immediately followed by 210Lbs for 25 reps of ADduction
Set 3 - 300Lbs for 25 reps ABduction, immediately followed by 210Lbs for 25 reps of ADduction
* I did this entire combo exercise like as if it was one big set, no breaks until it was all done, I just kept moving between machines.
Exercise 5: Hack Squat Machine Calf Raises
Set 1 - 3 plates on each side for 25 reps (toes out)
Set 2 - 3 plates on each side for 25 reps (toes in)
Set 3 - 3 plates on each side for 22 reps (toes out)
Set 4 - 3 plates on each side for 19 reps (toes in)
Set 5 - 2 plates & a quarter on each side for 25 reps (toes out)
Set 6 - 2 plates & a quarter on each side for 25 reps (toes in)
- OK, I took at lot of breaks in the beginning of this workout, I really didn't start picking up speed until the end and I definitely took pretty big breaks between exercises as well, so this whole workout took me a whopping 1 hour and 15 minutes, not too bad, let me tell you this high reps $hit with Legs just takes it all out of me, Whew, glad that is over with, but I did it, they are still burning as I type this and the pump was skin-splitting, I wish they could look like that all the time, LoL!
Diet:
Meal 1 - Chocolate Syntha-6 RTD protein drink
Meal 2 - Oh Yeah Protein bar
Meal 3 - 2 cans of tuna in water and 1 can of green beans
Meal 4 - Oh Yeah Protein bar
Meal 5 - 8oz baked chicken and 1 can of green beans
Meal 6 - either my normal 2 scoops of whey in water or I may treat myself to 4 rice cakes (2 chocolate & 2 caramel) all with a thin layer of almond butter on them, we'll see how I feel, if I'm too tired and not gonna watch tv, then I'm just gonna do the shake and sleep.
2+ gallons of water all day long
* OH, one last thing, today is the last day of my 25 reps/set for a few weeks anyway, I'm going to go back to my normal 10-15 reps/set style of lifting, even for tomorrow's arm day, because I started this for the first time two weeks ago on a Saturday when I did bi's & tri's.
Exercise 1: Glute Kick Back Machine
Set 1 - 110Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 2 - 110Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 3 - 110Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 4 - 110Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Exercise 2: Single Leg Curls
Set 1 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 2 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 3 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 4 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 5 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
Set 6 - 50Lbs for 25 reps each leg
* OK, so I was taking like 2 mins rest between sets, they were killing me, each set of both legs was liking running a hundred yard dash as fast as I could...
Exercise 3: Leg Extensions
Set 1 - 110Lbs for 25 reps (toes in)
Set 2 - 110Lbs for 25 reps (toes out)
Set 3 - 110Lbs for 25 reps (toes in)
Set 4 - 90Lbs for 25 reps (toes out)
Set 5 - 90Lbs for 25 reps (toes in)
Set 6 - 90Lbs for 25 reps (toes out)
Exercise 4: Hip ABduction and ADduction (really two exercises, but I always do them in conjunction)
Set 1 - 300Lbs for 25 reps ABduction, immediately followed by 210Lbs for 25 reps of ADduction
Set 2 - 300Lbs for 25 reps ABduction, immediately followed by 210Lbs for 25 reps of ADduction
Set 3 - 300Lbs for 25 reps ABduction, immediately followed by 210Lbs for 25 reps of ADduction
* I did this entire combo exercise like as if it was one big set, no breaks until it was all done, I just kept moving between machines.
Exercise 5: Hack Squat Machine Calf Raises
Set 1 - 3 plates on each side for 25 reps (toes out)
Set 2 - 3 plates on each side for 25 reps (toes in)
Set 3 - 3 plates on each side for 22 reps (toes out)
Set 4 - 3 plates on each side for 19 reps (toes in)
Set 5 - 2 plates & a quarter on each side for 25 reps (toes out)
Set 6 - 2 plates & a quarter on each side for 25 reps (toes in)
- OK, I took at lot of breaks in the beginning of this workout, I really didn't start picking up speed until the end and I definitely took pretty big breaks between exercises as well, so this whole workout took me a whopping 1 hour and 15 minutes, not too bad, let me tell you this high reps $hit with Legs just takes it all out of me, Whew, glad that is over with, but I did it, they are still burning as I type this and the pump was skin-splitting, I wish they could look like that all the time, LoL!
Diet:
Meal 1 - Chocolate Syntha-6 RTD protein drink
Meal 2 - Oh Yeah Protein bar
Meal 3 - 2 cans of tuna in water and 1 can of green beans
Meal 4 - Oh Yeah Protein bar
Meal 5 - 8oz baked chicken and 1 can of green beans
Meal 6 - either my normal 2 scoops of whey in water or I may treat myself to 4 rice cakes (2 chocolate & 2 caramel) all with a thin layer of almond butter on them, we'll see how I feel, if I'm too tired and not gonna watch tv, then I'm just gonna do the shake and sleep.
2+ gallons of water all day long
* OH, one last thing, today is the last day of my 25 reps/set for a few weeks anyway, I'm going to go back to my normal 10-15 reps/set style of lifting, even for tomorrow's arm day, because I started this for the first time two weeks ago on a Saturday when I did bi's & tri's.
ScottyDoc
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Easy there buddy, Kleen's bald, you trying to say there is something wrong with going bald? Because it won't be long for me and I'll be shaving this thing others call my melon on a regular basis very soon!!!
thundergod
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Will do, good sir.
thetinyguy
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Man oh man those unilateral movements must have been hell, 25 reps with one leg then BAM another with the other and then do it 5 more times.
Did you notice a difference doing higher reps besides just initial pumps or any strength gain? I know your cutting but gotta ask! I carbed up this morning, felt really really tired so 140G carbs outta do the trick
thetinyguy
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Awesome, are you bulking on that cycle??
lukehayd
Legend
LOL! Nothing wrong with bald. It was the mental state that I was referring to! I saw his LIT Up video and gotta say that boy aint right--in the head I mean! LOL!
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
I would assume with the cycle he is referring to, all he would have to do is just watch his fat and carbohydrate intake just a little and he will both bulk and shed some serious fat at the same time!
MrKleen73
Legend
Gotta love that, Berzerker mode!
I actually do something most parents don't. I tell them everything I did wrong and what it cost me from being arrested, friends, family members, any chance at being able to retire. Every time I have to tell them know to something I want them to be able to do because of money restraints that I would not be in my financial state if I had done it right so now I will be working at Wal-Mart when I am 90 wearing a depends and greeting people at the door at 4:00AM.
You can tell them any rule or anything but if you can't show the cost in a personal way rebellion is likely. However making them associate it with the costs on a more personal level makes them understand the weight of the decision.
Maybe not right but functional. Right is overrated, true to ones self is better. To be true to yourself you have to be honest with yourself and that my friend is harder than being honest with others. I am whacky and quirky, fancy myself a jackass, I make stupid decisions and yet I am brilliant, and down to earth, loving, supportive and more sensitive than your average person. However on more than one occasion I have heard the phrase "That boy just ain't right." I'm okay with that.
I remember that log, shame it had to end. Happy as hell you came back, time without thunder was like being in a drought and I would know.
My name on other boards long long ago used to be IamBBB it was my way of acceptance and bringing the sexy back to bald baby. I am Big Bald and Beautiful!
TG stays lean and grows on every blast. Up probably 15-20 lbs of LBM in the past 2 years and much leaner. By that I mean he is up 20 lbm from where he started his pinning and he was already bigger and leaner at that point than he is in his Avi.
thetinyguy
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Man, imagine if he devoted the entire cycle to bulking. Can you say STRENGTH & SIZE?? That's what i want to do in the future.
ScottyDoc
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thundergod
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No. It's more like a lean-recomp. I've not only held onto my mass while leaning up, but have actually added 4 lbs during this 8 week run. Too bad this is my last week. I'll go into cruise control for a while and then hit up a monster blast!! I'm going to do a 12 weeker on my next blast cycle.
It might look like this:
12 WEEKS
Injectables
For the first 6 weeks (front-load):
Test-Prop@150mg EOD
Tren-Ace@150mg EOD
Then my long-estered weekly doses:
Test-Cyp@750 mg weekly
Tren-Enanthate@ 400mg weekly
Orals
D-Bol pulsed @80mg 3 X weekly before my workouts
Gonna be some mad, mad fun!!!
TurningGreen
Well-known member
Whats your nutrition looking like TG, just interested. Do you follow more along what Doc is doing with the multiple small meals throughout the day, an IF protocol like Lean Gains, or something completely different?
ScottyDoc
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I'll tell you this much, if he is doing the multiple small meals a day like me, the meals are not really gonna be that small, LOL, I mean based on his size/frame and LBM being that much larger than mine and his supplement regiment, he would probably be taking in close if not more than double the amount of food and calories I'm taking in and would still be shedding some excess fat in the process!
ScottyDoc
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Day 48 - 08/27/2011 - Sleep in Day
Ok, so I had full intentions of getting up and going to the gym to work Arms before work, but knowing I have tomorrow to make up for it and being tired as hell from staying up an hour later than normal watching a movie on TV, I just said Fugg it and slept in until I had to wake up for work. Ya know, I'm really glad I did, I feel very rested and full of energy, so much so, I might have to see if the gym is calling my name when I get off of work at 6:00pm, I do have my gym bag with me, but I am doubting I will feel like it after working all day, will just play that one by ear.
Diet:
Meal 1 - PURE PROTEIN 50g Protein RTD
Meal 2 - 2 cans of tuna & 1 can of green beans
Meal 3 - Oh Yeah Protein bar
Meal 4 - 8oz baked chicken & 1 can of green beans
Meal 5 - Oh Yeah Protein bar
Meal 6 - 2 scoops of whey protein in water
2+ gallons of water all day
* The Usual, but if anyone is wondering, hey where did the eggs go, I have been working Mon-Fri 10hrs/day & Sat. 8hrs, I just have not had the time or energy to go buy and boil them up, I usually boil 7 dozen at a time, lasts me 7 days, I'll buy them on my way home tonight and cook them up either tonight or tomorrow since I'm off, so the eggs are coming back, they are one of my favorite lean sources of protein, so I am in no way eliminating them from my diet, not even an option. Also, the reason why I have been working so many hours is as I have mentioned before, the owners of FINAFLEX own a Nutrition Store chain here in the Atlanta, GA area called Xtreme Nutrition, and they got rid of one of the managers and so I have and will be covering the store all this week and for an additional week or two, which also explains why I have been eating/substituting so many protein bars and protein drinks in my daily diet, just some FYI so everyone understands my reasonings, it wasn't exactly planned to be eating and drinking all these protein bars and shakes, but it is a friendly & FREE change to the monotony of my normal daily diet! Oh and obviously, I am doing this job for them as a REP as well, just doing it between customers, so I'm literally online here all day every day but Sunday, you could not pay me to open my laptop on a Sunday, LoL!
Ok, so I had full intentions of getting up and going to the gym to work Arms before work, but knowing I have tomorrow to make up for it and being tired as hell from staying up an hour later than normal watching a movie on TV, I just said Fugg it and slept in until I had to wake up for work. Ya know, I'm really glad I did, I feel very rested and full of energy, so much so, I might have to see if the gym is calling my name when I get off of work at 6:00pm, I do have my gym bag with me, but I am doubting I will feel like it after working all day, will just play that one by ear.
Diet:
Meal 1 - PURE PROTEIN 50g Protein RTD
Meal 2 - 2 cans of tuna & 1 can of green beans
Meal 3 - Oh Yeah Protein bar
Meal 4 - 8oz baked chicken & 1 can of green beans
Meal 5 - Oh Yeah Protein bar
Meal 6 - 2 scoops of whey protein in water
2+ gallons of water all day
* The Usual, but if anyone is wondering, hey where did the eggs go, I have been working Mon-Fri 10hrs/day & Sat. 8hrs, I just have not had the time or energy to go buy and boil them up, I usually boil 7 dozen at a time, lasts me 7 days, I'll buy them on my way home tonight and cook them up either tonight or tomorrow since I'm off, so the eggs are coming back, they are one of my favorite lean sources of protein, so I am in no way eliminating them from my diet, not even an option. Also, the reason why I have been working so many hours is as I have mentioned before, the owners of FINAFLEX own a Nutrition Store chain here in the Atlanta, GA area called Xtreme Nutrition, and they got rid of one of the managers and so I have and will be covering the store all this week and for an additional week or two, which also explains why I have been eating/substituting so many protein bars and protein drinks in my daily diet, just some FYI so everyone understands my reasonings, it wasn't exactly planned to be eating and drinking all these protein bars and shakes, but it is a friendly & FREE change to the monotony of my normal daily diet! Oh and obviously, I am doing this job for them as a REP as well, just doing it between customers, so I'm literally online here all day every day but Sunday, you could not pay me to open my laptop on a Sunday, LoL!
thetinyguy
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That's so awesome, looks like it'll be a LOT of fun sheesh!
TurningGreen
Well-known member
Oh yeah bars are fugging money...cookie carmel crunch all day. Glad you're listening to your body and giving it what it wants. Keep up the hard work bro, Thor is on the horizon!
thetinyguy
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Good call Al, usually when i feel really really tired when i wake up i try to sleep a little bit longer too. What's it like working for Finaflex is it more about crunching numbers and making actions/decisions? Props for the dedication to diet, just a protein bar would make me feel starving and i'd probably end up bingeing (sp?). I have a hard enough time trying to get 1600 it's TOUGH for me
Keep up the good work Al my pal haha
ScottyDoc
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Good call Al, usually when i feel really really tired when i wake up i try to sleep a little bit longer too. What's it like working for Finaflex is it more about crunching numbers and making actions/decisions? Props for the dedication to diet, just a protein bar would make me feel starving and i'd probably end up bingeing (sp?). I have a hard enough time trying to get 1600 it's TOUGH for me
Working for FINAFLEX can vary from day to day my friend! I mean some days I'm just online for the whole 8hrs, other days I'm covering one of the Nutrition stores because someone is sick or in this case they are replacing a manager so I'm here for a few weeks and then I work both the store and online for 10hrs in a day. Other days we get a big shipment in and they don't have labels on the bottles and we have to sit there and label thousands of bottles by hand, other days we are working on making sample packs of PRO XANTHINE, for example I have probably made 5,000 PRO XANTHINE sample packs in the past 2 weeks, I just sit at my desk and put them in the little baggies and then seal them and after I have done that all day while still staying online and keeping up with the forums, the next day I will sit there and staple our little Label thing over the bags I made the day before, again all while staying online and keeping up with the forums! FINAFLEX is a very small company, we have the two owners and 4 other employees including me, we all work out of the warehouse/office (one in the same) and they pride themselves that even though we all have our own specific designated jobs, we know how to do everyone else's job as well that way if the need arises and one job is a priority, everyone stops what they are doing and does that one job, or the put two people on it, or when someone is sick, etc. etc. I mean we all chip in around there, I've taken out the trash, I've broken down boxes to put in the dumpster, I've driven the forklift and unloaded pallets of product onto and off of delivery trucks, I've cleaned the bathrooms, I've mopped the floor and cleaned the sample machine (the one that makes N.O. IGNITE & CELL SHOCK samples), but then again so has everyone else who works there, owners included!!!
So, in short, it is a fun job and an incredible TEAM effort!!!
thetinyguy
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I've done most of that! With the exception of driving a forklift and making samples. That's gotta feel really good knowing that you made all those samples and that alone would help sell the product like cupcakes. I want to find a company i can represent in the future and be proud to use their products, I really don't want the whole "Muscle-Tech" style where they always just say what they're paid to you know? When someone uses a product they believe in and is proud to work for them i know their products will deliver. I'm chomping at the bit to open this tub of N.O. Ignite i bought, Guess i gotta hold out till Monday!
JajaNe20
Active member
Well at least you stay busy and don't do the samething everyday all day! Monotomy at work kills! I know this from my current internship experience (in which I dread). If I were you, I wouldn't open the laptop on Sunday either! Keep on keeping on!
Onlychevy6
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Boy oh boy do I remember them days. When I was a part owner of a company called Bodylogix.com. The original company was based out of Costa Mesa Calif. We made supplements and designed nutrition programs. As well as sold merchandise. The company was re-opened in Canada I think. In which I have no ties to.
thundergod
Well-known member
My diet/nutrition is nothing advanced or new/cutting-edge.
Just my tried and true 5 small meals per day with some carb-cycling. I have 5 days of lower carbs and then I carb up on the weekends.
It works for me.......
crimsonice5656
New member
ScottyDoc,I have been cutting with Epi V over the past 6-7 weeks for an upcoming vacation with great results. Because of the hurricane we had to push the vacation back approximately 2 months. I've gotten considerably leaner but am not where I want to be yet. I don't really want to run Epi V much longer being a methyl and all, do you think I could run 1 Andro the next 6-8 weeks? It would basically be the opposite of your cycle.
MrKleen73
Legend
Al, first and foremost let's get the important stuff out of the way. How was the trip to the water park with your little princess? I bet you had a blast, was she tall enough to ride everything? I was shocked when my little girl did the Texas Freefall. Straight down drop almost from 8 stories up, she didn't even blink or get nervous. While grown men were going up and walking back down. The teenager behind us was going to walk back down then saw my daughter do it and was like Oh no, I can't back out now, that little girl couldn't wait to go.
I like that you get to do a little of everything. I do too, unfortunately a lot of my co-workers are pleased in letting me doing the lions share of the work and them just chilling. Oh well I got a bad ass review and they didn't.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one TG, do what works for you. Everyone should have this standard. The best way to do things is very personal, not cookie cutter. Everyone jumps on board with the diet crazes. I prefer the IF now for me it is what feels natural, not because I think it is the absolute best way to eat. I get same results as a more restrictive diet, nice health benefits, and I vary the crap out of what I eat. For me too much attention to detail on diet drives me batty even though I get just as good results with it as I do with Intermittent Fasting so it is what works for me. I can continue doing it for good without much effort and no calorie counting on a miniscule level. For me it is simple, eat big on the days I lift and and not as big on the days I don't. I adjust to how I feel and what I think my body is telling me. I like to be meticulous about my workouts as far as designing them, but not so much on the nutrition part. Setting that up feels like a job, in the past I did it to get the job done but no more. In the past I would repeat the same meals over and over with little variance just like Scotty is doing and no doubt it works well, but the diet was not enjoyable for me just easy to repeat. I only enjoyed the results. I know you love your meats and greens all week long. Then a good enjoyable feed on the weekends. It really works well for you. By the way if you ever decide to share that beastly physique of yours and need a place to park the pics you can do it in my thread for sure! I would consider it an honor. So curious what at 264 lb ripped up Thunder looks like!!!! I imagine like something out of a video game or old school comic book!
I like that you get to do a little of everything. I do too, unfortunately a lot of my co-workers are pleased in letting me doing the lions share of the work and them just chilling. Oh well I got a bad ass review and they didn't.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one TG, do what works for you. Everyone should have this standard. The best way to do things is very personal, not cookie cutter. Everyone jumps on board with the diet crazes. I prefer the IF now for me it is what feels natural, not because I think it is the absolute best way to eat. I get same results as a more restrictive diet, nice health benefits, and I vary the crap out of what I eat. For me too much attention to detail on diet drives me batty even though I get just as good results with it as I do with Intermittent Fasting so it is what works for me. I can continue doing it for good without much effort and no calorie counting on a miniscule level. For me it is simple, eat big on the days I lift and and not as big on the days I don't. I adjust to how I feel and what I think my body is telling me. I like to be meticulous about my workouts as far as designing them, but not so much on the nutrition part. Setting that up feels like a job, in the past I did it to get the job done but no more. In the past I would repeat the same meals over and over with little variance just like Scotty is doing and no doubt it works well, but the diet was not enjoyable for me just easy to repeat. I only enjoyed the results. I know you love your meats and greens all week long. Then a good enjoyable feed on the weekends. It really works well for you. By the way if you ever decide to share that beastly physique of yours and need a place to park the pics you can do it in my thread for sure! I would consider it an honor. So curious what at 264 lb ripped up Thunder looks like!!!! I imagine like something out of a video game or old school comic book!
thetinyguy
Well-known member
Al, first and foremost let's get the important stuff out of the way. How was the trip to the water park with your little princess? I bet you had a blast, was she tall enough to ride everything? I was shocked when my little girl did the Texas Freefall. Straight down drop almost from 8 stories up, she didn't even blink or get nervous. While grown men were going up and walking back down. The teenager behind us was going to walk back down then saw my daughter do it and was like Oh no, I can't back out now, that little girl couldn't wait to go.
I like that you get to do a little of everything. I do too, unfortunately a lot of my co-workers are pleased in letting me doing the lions share of the work and them just chilling. Oh well I got a bad ass review and they didn't.
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one TG, do what works for you. Everyone should have this standard. The best way to do things is very personal, not cookie cutter. Everyone jumps on board with the diet crazes. I prefer the IF now for me it is what feels natural, not because I think it is the absolute best way to eat. I get same results as a more restrictive diet, nice health benefits, and I vary the crap out of what I eat. For me too much attention to detail on diet drives me batty even though I get just as good results with it as I do with Intermittent Fasting so it is what works for me. I can continue doing it for good without much effort and no calorie counting on a miniscule level. For me it is simple, eat big on the days I lift and and not as big on the days I don't. I adjust to how I feel and what I think my body is telling me. I like to be meticulous about my workouts as far as designing them, but not so much on the nutrition part. Setting that up feels like a job, in the past I did it to get the job done but no more. In the past I would repeat the same meals over and over with little variance just like Scotty is doing and no doubt it works well, but the diet was not enjoyable for me just easy to repeat. I only enjoyed the results. I know you love your meats and greens all week long. Then a good enjoyable feed on the weekends. It really works well for you. By the way if you ever decide to share that beastly physique of yours and need a place to park the pics you can do it in my thread for sure! I would consider it an honor. So curious what at 264 lb ripped up Thunder looks like!!!! I imagine like something out of a video game or old school comic book!
Agree with you 100% Kleen, People always tell me i'm overtraining and i eat too much blah blah blah. But it works i don't see anyone in my gym who gets stronger every single workout while on caloric deficits. Higher amounts of food and longer workouts work really good for me, and i'm happy it does cause i love training
Onlychevy6
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Agree with you 100% Kleen, People always tell me i'm overtraining and i eat too much blah blah blah. But it works i don't see anyone in my gym who gets stronger every single workout while on caloric deficits. Higher amounts of food and longer workouts work really good for me, and i'm happy it does cause i love training
LOL... I am getting stronger and strong and am still cutting and don't lift nearly as many sets as you nor eat as much. LMAO sorry just had to say it.
thetinyguy
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MrKleen73
Legend
I was talking about in my gym not this forum haha plus i'm not on a PH though
OOOOOO BURN!
LOL Jeff he has a point there...
No it all works well that is why periodization is important. We all have different muscle fiber type concentrations which is a huge factor. Jo does well with a more volume based approach, naturally has more stamina and intra set recovery than I do. I naturally do better with sheer explosiveness. Althugh Tiny going from you natural best to the polar opposite teaches the muscle to perform better in the other situation. Try switching it up sometime for 8-12 weeks and you will grow and become stronger then will lift heavier weight for the volume stuff when you go back. It is about strengthening your weaknesses to take better advantage of the strengths also. However the bread and butter should always be the go to. 
thetinyguy
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TestoPRO log starts tomorrow!
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ScottyDoc
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Yes, you could do that, just keep your diet very tight/strict and please take a PCT with this current cycle of 1-ANDRO as well as after, again, I am biased but I honestly do not think you can go wrong by using PCT REVOLUTION Black (will lower estrogen, raise natural testosterone, and protect your liver, kidney, prostate and cardiovascular function), just take like 1-2 caps/day (during) depending on how many caps of 1-ANDRO you are taking and then double your dose of PCT when you first come off and then after about 2 weeks take it down a cap for a week, then another cap the following week and so on until you are off, I would continue to take 1 cap a day until you have run through an entire bottle for your PCT (after cycle) unless you are experiencing stiffness or aches in your joints, which should not happen at that low of a dose!
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
Al, first and foremost let's get the important stuff out of the way. How was the trip to the water park with your little princess? I bet you had a blast, was she tall enough to ride everything? I was shocked when my little girl did the Texas Freefall. Straight down drop almost from 8 stories up, she didn't even blink or get nervous. While grown men were going up and walking back down. The teenager behind us was going to walk back down then saw my daughter do it and was like Oh no, I can't back out now, that little girl couldn't wait to go.
I like that you get to do a little of everything. I do too, unfortunately a lot of my co-workers are pleased in letting me doing the lions share of the work and them just chilling. Oh well I got a bad ass review and they didn't.
My daughter and I had an amazing time, spent 4hrs at a Kid's waterpark, I have not taken her to a real-deal big waterpark, but her mom has and she too was not afraid of any of the slides. The one I take her to is connected to a park, only costs $9 for both her and I to get in and has a bunch of small slides, a lazy river, and all the slides, tunnels, water guns, and jungle gym style stuff in the 2-3ft water part of the pool, so it is a mini-waterpark for kids, just to be clear. But back to us, we had a blast, I let her squirt me, I chased her in the water, she chased me, I watched her go down every slide gazillions of times, etc.
I agree, the way I am doing it does sometimes feel like a job, but that is why I spend 1-2hrs of cooking while I'm cleaning and doing laundry on Sundays to prepare for the rest of the week, sometimes I cook for longer (like with my baked chicken I always cook for 2+ weeks) and it feels it feels less like a job to me that way, but it is still very monotonous, but again, that monotony helps me in a lot of ways, kind of takes a lot of the thinking and temptation out of the equation, which is a personal weakness of mine. Again, this is why I'm waiting until after I have hit my goal before giving LG a try, that way if I feel it is not working for me, or I'm having a tendency to over-eat or eat the wrong foods way too often, I can always switch back and just give myself a whole day a week as a cheat day to stay sane, either way LG will get a fair shake with me in the near future for sure! But back to Kleen's original point, I could not agree with him more, to each his own, more than one way to skin a cat for sure, do what works best for you!
DreamWeaver
Legend
One thing about lean gains, because you get away with so much it tempts you more. I mean regular contest diet is black and white lean gains gets a bit grey. It does get tough but by that time you're pretty lean already and to tell you the truth I don't really know how far I can push it. I really haven't found a sport where I am hurting my progress despite not being as disciplined as normal. I like knowing exactly where I am at in this situation. Your metabolism keeps on speeding up to boot. You could probably be progressive with your calories and still burn fat.
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
Day 49 - 08/28/2011 - Slept in again and then got to work cooking and cleaning before my daughter arrived!
Diet:
Meal 1 - 6 egg whites/1 yoke
Meal 2 - 8oz baked chicken & 1 can of green beans
Meal 3 - 1 cuban sandwich (no fries or chips) took my daughter to lunch at Frontera Mex. Grill where my wife works
Meal 4 - 16oz Grilled Steak & 1 can of green beans
Meal 5 - 4 rice cakes with light covering of almond butter (could not finish the 4th, listened to my body and it said NO)
Day 50 - 08/29/2011 - Arms (Biceps, Triceps)
* Mondays are hard for me because I have to drop my daughter off at her Mother's before school at around 7:00am and it takes me an hour to get to the gym near work, leaving me with only a little over an hour to get my workout in before shower and work, which is why I didn't do forearms & Abs or Calves, which will all be made up this week.
Exercise 1: Bicep curls with french curl bar
Set 1 - 40Lbs for 20 reps (warm-up)
Set 2 - 50Lbs for 15 reps (warm-up)
Set 3 - 60Lbs for 15 reps (thought it was going to be my 1st set, but was too easy, so another warm-up)
Set 4 - 70Lbs for 10 reps
Set 5 - 80Lbs for 10 reps
Set 6 - 80Lbs for 10 reps
Set 7 - 80Lbs for 10 reps
Set 8 - 70Lbs for 10 reps
Exercise 2: Dumbbell Hammer Curls
Set 1 - 30Lbs each arm for 15 reps
Set 2 - 30Lbs each arm for 12 reps
Set 3 - 30Lbs each arm for 10 reps
Set 4 - 30Lbs each arm for 10 reps
Exercise 3: Preacher curls on Machine
Set 1 - 110Lbs for 12 reps
Set 2 - 110Lbs for 10 reps
Set 3 - 95Lbs for 11 reps
Set 4 - 95Lbs for 10 reps, immediately followed by 70Lbs for 6 more burn-out reps
Exercise 4: Cable Tricep Press Downs
Set 1 - 90Lbs for 15 reps
Set 2 - 90Lbs for 15 reps
Set 3 - 90Lbs for 15 reps
Set 4 - 90Lbs for 15 reps
Exercise 5: Reverse Grip Cable Tricep Press Downs
Set 1 - 80Lbs for 12 reps
Set 2 - 80Lbs for 10 reps
Set 3 - 70Lbs for 15 reps
Set 4 - 70Lbs for 13 reps
Exercise 6: Single Arm Cable Tricep Kick Backs
Set 1 - 20Lbs each arm for 12 reps
Set 2 - 15Lbs each arm for 12 reps
Set 2 - 15Lbs each arm for 10 reps
Set 2 - 15Lbs each arm for 10 reps
- OK, today's workout was a good one, but DAMN, I'm hurting from that left-over rice cake with almond butter that I ate this morning, I have had heart-burn every since and that was 6:30am and it is presently 12:00Noon. It is killing me here, I have almost finished my 2nd gallon of water trying desperately to douse this burn I have in the back of my lower throat where I can picture it right at the esophageal sphincter where the esophagus and stomach meet, anyway it is burning painfully and starting to cause a mild head-ache and feverish kind of feeling over my entire body.
Diet:
Meal 1 - 1 rice cake & almond butter (I intended to eat the eggs too, but the damn rice-cake gave me severe heart-burn for some reason)
Meal 2 - 6 egg whites/1 yoke
Meal 3 - Tryoplex protein bar
Meal 4 - 2 cans of tuna in water & 1 can of green beans
Meal 5 - 8oz baked chicken & 1 can of green beans
Meal 6 - 2 scoops of whey protein in water
2+ gallons of water all day
* I will not stray from my diet or eating these foods, but if my heart-burn continues, I may not be able to eat all this food, so normally when I write it, I follow it to the letter, but today may be a tad different, if I land up eating or drinking something different of any kind of significance I will give the details tomorrow.
Diet:
Meal 1 - 6 egg whites/1 yoke
Meal 2 - 8oz baked chicken & 1 can of green beans
Meal 3 - 1 cuban sandwich (no fries or chips) took my daughter to lunch at Frontera Mex. Grill where my wife works
Meal 4 - 16oz Grilled Steak & 1 can of green beans
Meal 5 - 4 rice cakes with light covering of almond butter (could not finish the 4th, listened to my body and it said NO)
Day 50 - 08/29/2011 - Arms (Biceps, Triceps)
* Mondays are hard for me because I have to drop my daughter off at her Mother's before school at around 7:00am and it takes me an hour to get to the gym near work, leaving me with only a little over an hour to get my workout in before shower and work, which is why I didn't do forearms & Abs or Calves, which will all be made up this week.
Exercise 1: Bicep curls with french curl bar
Set 1 - 40Lbs for 20 reps (warm-up)
Set 2 - 50Lbs for 15 reps (warm-up)
Set 3 - 60Lbs for 15 reps (thought it was going to be my 1st set, but was too easy, so another warm-up)
Set 4 - 70Lbs for 10 reps
Set 5 - 80Lbs for 10 reps
Set 6 - 80Lbs for 10 reps
Set 7 - 80Lbs for 10 reps
Set 8 - 70Lbs for 10 reps
Exercise 2: Dumbbell Hammer Curls
Set 1 - 30Lbs each arm for 15 reps
Set 2 - 30Lbs each arm for 12 reps
Set 3 - 30Lbs each arm for 10 reps
Set 4 - 30Lbs each arm for 10 reps
Exercise 3: Preacher curls on Machine
Set 1 - 110Lbs for 12 reps
Set 2 - 110Lbs for 10 reps
Set 3 - 95Lbs for 11 reps
Set 4 - 95Lbs for 10 reps, immediately followed by 70Lbs for 6 more burn-out reps
Exercise 4: Cable Tricep Press Downs
Set 1 - 90Lbs for 15 reps
Set 2 - 90Lbs for 15 reps
Set 3 - 90Lbs for 15 reps
Set 4 - 90Lbs for 15 reps
Exercise 5: Reverse Grip Cable Tricep Press Downs
Set 1 - 80Lbs for 12 reps
Set 2 - 80Lbs for 10 reps
Set 3 - 70Lbs for 15 reps
Set 4 - 70Lbs for 13 reps
Exercise 6: Single Arm Cable Tricep Kick Backs
Set 1 - 20Lbs each arm for 12 reps
Set 2 - 15Lbs each arm for 12 reps
Set 2 - 15Lbs each arm for 10 reps
Set 2 - 15Lbs each arm for 10 reps
- OK, today's workout was a good one, but DAMN, I'm hurting from that left-over rice cake with almond butter that I ate this morning, I have had heart-burn every since and that was 6:30am and it is presently 12:00Noon. It is killing me here, I have almost finished my 2nd gallon of water trying desperately to douse this burn I have in the back of my lower throat where I can picture it right at the esophageal sphincter where the esophagus and stomach meet, anyway it is burning painfully and starting to cause a mild head-ache and feverish kind of feeling over my entire body.
Diet:
Meal 1 - 1 rice cake & almond butter (I intended to eat the eggs too, but the damn rice-cake gave me severe heart-burn for some reason)
Meal 2 - 6 egg whites/1 yoke
Meal 3 - Tryoplex protein bar
Meal 4 - 2 cans of tuna in water & 1 can of green beans
Meal 5 - 8oz baked chicken & 1 can of green beans
Meal 6 - 2 scoops of whey protein in water
2+ gallons of water all day
* I will not stray from my diet or eating these foods, but if my heart-burn continues, I may not be able to eat all this food, so normally when I write it, I follow it to the letter, but today may be a tad different, if I land up eating or drinking something different of any kind of significance I will give the details tomorrow.
SuppJunkie
Active member
ScottyDoc, is heartnurn something you have always delt with? I have been dealing with it my entire life. I have a presecription Anacid that I take once a day before bed. Then, I still find myself having to use Gaviscon and/or rolaids once or twice a week as the heartburn still kicks in. I drink LOADS of coffee everyday as well as drink diet soda so I am sure that has ALOT to do with it..Just curious how long you have been dealing with it and if you can zoom in on what's causing it..
SJ
SJ
lukehayd
Legend
My daughter is only about 17 mo old now but she is sooo fun to play with and listen to her giggle! She definitely has a very ornery side (she gets that from her mother!) that is also starting to really manifest itself! I'm glad to hear that you had a good time with her! This world wouldn't be as bad as it is if more fathers out there were actually daddys and took an active role in their child's life. Kudos to you Doc!! Would rep you but it says I have to spread some around first!
lukehayd
Legend
Dude, you said "sphincter!" Huh huh huh huh huh! (couldn't find the bevis and butthead clip to go with it)
On a serious note though, hope that you can get this under control. I usually pop a few of the maximum strength tums and it works for me. Did I say a few? Probably more like 4-5. More than suggested dose but it works!