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Epi-Strong makes a comeback!

Is the general consensus that epi-strong is better than havoc? For my first ph cycle this fall I'm considering either hdrol, epi-strong, or havoc. Sounds like epi-strong is pretty great stuff..
 
Is the general consensus that epi-strong is better than havoc? For my first ph cycle this fall I'm considering either hdrol, epi-strong, or havoc. Sounds like epi-strong is pretty great stuff..

you will get lots of agreement here since they are reps for the company
 
Is the general consensus that epi-strong is better than havoc? For my first ph cycle this fall I'm considering either hdrol, epi-strong, or havoc. Sounds like epi-strong is pretty great stuff..

Epi-strong is basically the same compound as Havoc, just dosed at 15mg per cap versus 10mg per cap respectively. H-Drol is pretty different, but also good for dry gains. Epi is my personal favorite, but all 3 are good choices IMO.
 
Is the general consensus that epi-strong is better than havoc? For my first ph cycle this fall I'm considering either hdrol, epi-strong, or havoc. Sounds like epi-strong is pretty great stuff..

Havoc, hdrol, and Epi-strong are all great clones. Havoc and Epi-strong are essentially identical with the exception of Epi-strong being dosed higher per cap. ;)

Hdrol is great, but IMO cannot hold a candle to EPI. For me that stuff excels in everything.
 
Epi-strong is basically the same compound as Havoc, just dosed at 15mg per cap versus 10mg per cap respectively. H-Drol is pretty different, but also good for dry gains. Epi is my personal favorite, but all 3 are good choices IMO.

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Is the general consensus that epi-strong is better than havoc? For my first ph cycle this fall I'm considering either hdrol, epi-strong, or havoc. Sounds like epi-strong is pretty great stuff..

for a first timer I'd def recommend going with hdrol since this is your first splash into the ph/ds game.
 
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for a first timer I'd def recommend going with hdrol since this is your first splash into the ph/ds game.

I have read a lot of posts about hdrol being a great first cycle. Will you tell me why specifically you would recommend it over epi though? I have heard that epi is also a good first cycle and that both it and hdrol are mild and have little sides.
 
Thanks to Stang, Milas, Rick, and mich for the insight and info. Always appreciate the quick responses and good feedback I get here at AM.
 
I have read a lot of posts about hdrol being a great first cycle. Will you tell me why specifically you would recommend it over epi though? I have heard that epi is also a good first cycle and that both it and hdrol are mild and have little sides.

either should be fine though with epi I would start off with the normal dose till you find what dose works for you.hdrol is a very mild ph/ds so the sides aren't insane and the gains are nice and lean
 
I have read a lot of posts about hdrol being a great first cycle. Will you tell me why specifically you would recommend it over epi though? I have heard that epi is also a good first cycle and that both it and hdrol are mild and have little sides.

Either are good, my first cycle was an Epi pulse. I learned a few good things from that, and it got me hooked. HDrol is used by a lot of people just getting into PH/DS, so is Epi. It's really a personal choice, HDrol takes a little bit longer to really kick in (most cycles are 6 weeks), while Epi cycles are generally a bit shorter (about 4-6 week cycles). Epi is a bit "drier" IMO, helps lean out more, but they're both quite good in that area.

Either way you go, I'm sure you will enjoy it. Just make sure you're well prepared and have researched all of it. Do you have a PCT set up as well as cycle supports?
 
My first and best cycle was Epi-strong. I just got done with a Helladrol run which is the same as hdrol and I think both are great for a first time PH. Both gave little to no sides with the exception of EPI drying the joints some. Gains on EPI were much much better though for me..;)
 
i'm really looking forward to running a solid epi product again, last time i was severly let down by the epi clone i decided to go with at that time...i want to stack this with the new rs-transaderm product to make the gains even better
 
EPI is awesome. Wonder how many bottles are left!

There will be 2 less in a little bit. Since its payday, I'm thinking of ordering 2 more bottles to add to the 2 I already ordered....just have to figure out how to order without the wife knowing...;)
 
Either are good, my first cycle was an Epi pulse. I learned a few good things from that, and it got me hooked. HDrol is used by a lot of people just getting into PH/DS, so is Epi. It's really a personal choice, HDrol takes a little bit longer to really kick in (most cycles are 6 weeks), while Epi cycles are generally a bit shorter (about 4-6 week cycles). Epi is a bit "drier" IMO, helps lean out more, but they're both quite good in that area.Either way you go, I'm sure you will enjoy it. Just make sure you're well prepared and have researched all of it. Do you have a PCT set up as well as cycle supports?
Yes sir been researching like crazy since spring and I have a pretty firm grasp on what a solid cycle and pct should look like. Will definitely not run it until I have everything in hand and layed out on here for everyone to look at and provide input and feedback. Thanks again.
 
All this Epi strong talk has me super excited because I have a bottle already in my cupboard ( I'm in Australia, so it's not as easy to get ph here)... Thing is, I'm am on my very first PH cycle at the moment .. Day 6 into a havoc cycle.
My question is.. The Epi strong I have has a use by date on it of July 2012... I will not be able to run it till close to this date.... Will the active ingrediant still be effective with it being so close to the used by date.
This thread has hyped me up for my Epi strong run in the future, looking forward to running 45mg a day next cycle... Using 30mg for 4 weeks with the havoc.
Thanks for your insight and info guys.
 
All this Epi strong talk has me super excited because I have a bottle already in my cupboard ( I'm in Australia, so it's not as easy to get ph here)... Thing is, I'm am on my very first PH cycle at the moment .. Day 6 into a havoc cycle.
My question is.. The Epi strong I have has a use by date on it of July 2012... I will not be able to run it till close to this date.... Will the active ingrediant still be effective with it being so close to the used by date.
This thread has hyped me up for my Epi strong run in the future, looking forward to running 45mg a day next cycle... Using 30mg for 4 weeks with the havoc.
Thanks for your insight and info guys.

It will be good to go bro. If they are stored in a dry place away from light PH's/DS's will last a long time past their expiration date.
 
chocolatemilk said:
It will be good to go bro. If they are stored in a dry place away from light PH's/DS's will last a long time past their expiration date.

Yeh what CM said here bro. Its fine. Worse case scenario is you'll have some Phera which isn't a bad thing...
 
Most people would love to end up with Phera haha...I wasn't though since I don't think my gyno would have liked it.
 
It will be good to go bro. If they are stored in a dry place away from light PH's/DS's will last a long time past their expiration date.
Excellent, that's what I wanted to hear! I did read somewhere when I was doing my research for using PH's that Epi has a short shelf life.. This was the reason I asked on here.Like I said before, I'm on day 6.... Not really feeling anything yet, only thing is muscles do feel kind of harder. Looking forward to the epieuphoria , Epi alpha male , Epi gains.. Haha everything Epi..lol.Happy I have the opportunity to try out Epi-strong!
 
Anyone know when this limited run will ship?

I haven't heard, but I would assume very soon. Last time I bought something on presale it shipped in around a week from the order, so it shouldn't be long.
 
I got my bottles today. They are not the same bottles as the old epi-strong. The pill is different too. It has the same smell as the old epistane... hope these are legit...
 
Sklander said:
I got my bottles today. They are not the same bottles as the old epi-strong. The pill is different too. It has the same smell as the old epistane... hope these are legit...

They are legit bro. They were supposed to be marketed differently than previous bottles because it is a limited edition one-time run. ;)
 
Ja3y said:
Just different pills and bottle than the old epistrong. Weird

So now the bottle and pill color determine how effective it is?...lol

Its good to go bro. Same sh1t, different bottle...
 
Happens all the time when the caps r different colors or lids r different colors on products, no biggie, sometimes its what the capping facility has in stock and goes with it to prevent delays on a product that's ready just for the sake of a plastic bottle or cap color
 
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