PES AnaBeta - Revealed

I'm on my 16th day and I'm not having the same experience as others... I do realize these things work differently for different people.
 
nattydisaster said:
How many u taking Zero? If you're really not feeling anything at day 16 you may want to bump up to 6 caps
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Yeah, test out zero caps for a while, if its not kicking in that should tell you that you need to start taking some.
 
Hi, I'm an AnaBeta-holic... we're going to need a support club (and more bottles).
 
I'm taking one with my first morning meal, one an hour before my workout with a small meal (maybe I should try an empty stomach for this one), one with my protein shake right after my workout and another with a small meal later in the evening. I'll give it until I'm done with my first bottle and then try 6 per day with the next.. It would figure I'm the only one who won't get anything out of AnaBeta... :p But let's see what happens after a full month...

nattydisaster said:
How many u taking Zero? If you're really not feeling anything at day 16 you may want to bump up to 6 caps
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I wasn't feeling much after two weeks. I then switched to 6 caps, starting to feel solid and strength is up! 2 am, 2 pre, 2 post.
 
Hmm.. Maybe I'll give that a go next week instead. I'm a fairly light guy, though, so... I really thought 4 should have worked for me...

dcne02 said:
I wasn't feeling much after two weeks. I then switched to 6 caps, starting to feel solid and strength is up! 2 am, 2 pre, 2 post.
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Give it some more time at 4 caps maybe. Mlost people respond well at 4 apparently, but everybody is different. Might take a little longer to kick in. I'm 205, I tried 6 caps, and I feel it more now.

Good luck
 
dcne02 said:
Give it some more time at 4 caps maybe. Mlost people respond well at 4 apparently, but everybody is different. Might take a little longer to kick in. I'm 205, I tried 6 caps, and I feel it more now.

Good luck
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Similar weight/height, bumped mine to 6 caps about 2 weeks in and don't regret it all. I feel it much better than 4. Different strokes for different folks.
 
jwa254 said:
Similar weight/height, bumped mine to 6 caps about 2 weeks in and don't regret it all. I feel it much better than 4. Different strokes for different folks.
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Fo sho. We have found it to be similar with PHs. If you typically need a higher dose of a PH to achieve the same results than other people, the same seems to be true w AnaBeta. I know MrBigPR bumped it up to 6 and really felt it. I suggested this to him after he mentioned to me he needed 30mg superdrol to feel anything. But always good to use 4 caps first for a bit as this will be the best dose for most people and no need to take more if its solid at 4
 
After what felt like an eternity I have finally received my AnaBeta.

My first run was the beta test so kept consistent with what I was told and used 1 capsule 4 times per day with food without deviation.

I am now on my second run and have the benefit of knowing what it is as well as reading dozens of reviews and logs to see how I can get the most out of it. So, for everyone that has had the luxury of playing with the dosage, what have you found out?

Things like more than one capsule before training, doubling up doses, spreading them out, taking them with or without meals etc.

Let me learn from your experiences.
 
If I take 3 caps at one meal I easily can eat 3 double quarter pounds without any digestion problems...
 
nattydisaster said:
Fo sho. We have found it to be similar with PHs. If you typically need a higher dose of a PH to achieve the same results than other people, the same seems to be true w AnaBeta. I know MrBigPR bumped it up to 6 and really felt it. I suggested this to him after he mentioned to me he needed 30mg superdrol to feel anything. But always good to use 4 caps first for a bit as this will be the best dose for most people and no need to take more if its solid at 4
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good info to know here.
 
bdcc said:
After what felt like an eternity I have finally received my AnaBeta.

My first run was the beta test so kept consistent with what I was told and used 1 capsule 4 times per day with food without deviation.

I am now on my second run and have the benefit of knowing what it is as well as reading dozens of reviews and logs to see how I can get the most out of it. So, for everyone that has had the luxury of playing with the dosage, what have you found out?

Things like more than one capsule before training, doubling up doses, spreading them out, taking them with or without meals etc.

Let me learn from your experiences.
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andrew732 said:
If I take 3 caps at one meal I easily can eat 3 double quarter pounds without any digestion problems...
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Good feedback, thank you.

Apparently you aren't human so I think it might be best for me to wait to hear from those who are the same species as me before I try this one. ;)
 
bdcc said:
After what felt like an eternity I have finally received my AnaBeta.

My first run was the beta test so kept consistent with what I was told and used 1 capsule 4 times per day with food without deviation.

I am now on my second run and have the benefit of knowing what it is as well as reading dozens of reviews and logs to see how I can get the most out of it. So, for everyone that has had the luxury of playing with the dosage, what have you found out?

Things like more than one capsule before training, doubling up doses, spreading them out, taking them with or without meals etc.

Let me learn from your experiences.
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I've tried doubling up and spreading it out, with and without food/BCAA. In my opinion spreading it out with food feels better to me. I don't have anything quantitative to substantiate it though, just feelings.
 
Good feedback, thank you. So you are on 1 capsule QID, with food?

This is how I was dosing it originally and what I have started with now, I am only a few days in.

I will experiment with double dosing pre workout and things like that so I can offer a personal perspective to customers. I just want to know what type of experimentation people have done so far, what worked and what didn't.
 
bdcc said:
Good feedback, thank you. So you are on 1 capsule QID, with food?

This is how I was dosing it originally and what I have started with now, I am only a few days in.

I will experiment with double dosing pre workout and things like that so I can offer a personal perspective to customers. I just want to know what type of experimentation people have done so far, what worked and what didn't.
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If you spent some time in my log, you'd know!!! ;)

I dose it as follows, 6 caps:

1 cap 5:30 AM with 10g 4:1:1 BCAA

2 caps 12PM with BIG meal

1 cap 3PM with snack

1 cap 6PM with meal

1 cap 11PM with 10g BCAA


I feel the times I dose with food, I notice more effects.
 
bdcc said:
Good feedback, thank you. So you are on 1 capsule QID, with food?

This is how I was dosing it originally and what I have started with now, I am only a few days in.

I will experiment with double dosing pre workout and things like that so I can offer a personal perspective to customers. I just want to know what type of experimentation people have done so far, what worked and what didn't.
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when dosing 1 at a time with food combustion and at2 have my appetite under control. when i tried 2 caps on empty stomach preworkout and 2 caps post, my appetite went way up- just couldn't seem to get full. i will stick to 1 cap 4xdaily with food.
 
Milas- I often peruse your log and then the English bashing starting and I left, sulked and watched Coronation Street. Good feedback though, thank you for going into detail.

BigT- I found that I couldn't get full when on one capsule four times per day with food. I got to the point where I didn't want to eat anymore but struggled to ever feel satisfied. It was like shovelling food into a bottomless pit, very weird. I will have to be brave and try a double dose or dosing on an empty stomach and keep food close just in case. I could try taking AT2 with it for appetite suppression if it got out of hand.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I would rep you both but am unable to spread the love anymore.
 
bdcc said:
Milas- I often peruse your log and then the English bashing starting and I left, sulked and watched Coronation Street. Good feedback though, thank you for going into detail.

BigT- I found that I couldn't get full when on one capsule four times per day with food. I got to the point where I didn't want to eat anymore but struggled to ever feel satisfied. It was like shovelling food into a bottomless pit, very weird. I will have to be brave and try a double dose or dosing on an empty stomach and keep food close just in case. I could try taking AT2 with it for appetite suppression if it got out of hand.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I would rep you both but am unable to spread the love anymore.
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LOL, Coronation Street is enough to reduce me to tears too! At least I wasn't talking about limeys or anything, I was keeping the bashing civil. Please come back :D :flowers:
 
I am dosing it like this:

2 caps pre-workout on empty stomach or maybe with 1 scoop of protein.
1 cap post-workout
1 cap at dinner
1 cap 3 hours with or without food.

After doing the 2 caps pre workout my muscles seems to have gotten a lot harder, especially during and after workouts of course.
 
Thanks. Have you found a big difference in general between four capsules per day and five?

I am still on four at the moment. My hunger so was intense last time I am not sure if five would be worth it and/or tolerable lol.
 
AtomicFox said:
I am dosing it like this:2 caps pre-workout on empty stomach or maybe with 1 scoop of protein. 1 cap post-workout1 cap at dinner1 cap 3 hours with or without food.After doing the 2 caps pre workout my muscles seems to have gotten a lot harder, especially during and after workouts of course.
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I was thinking about switching to a dosing scheme like that, let me know how the 5 caps is vs 4 if you get a chance to run both.
 
Well I have only been on for 2 weeks now but the biggest difference I feel is that I am more pumped compared to when I was at 4 capsules a day. I want to stay at 5, I really like the effects I am seeing at that dosage. The increased hunger does seem to fade a bit during the second week, at least that is what I have experienced and that is at 5 caps :)
 
By the way. I have just added my thought and comments from WEEK 2 in my log if you are interested :)
 
i wasnt experiencing as great of results as others until I bumped up my carb intake.
 
Atomic Fox has a detailed two week review for anyone who is interested despite the fact it uses a non PES branded supplement as well.

I managed to overlook this fact and forgive him lol.
 
fightbackhxc said:
i wasnt experiencing as great of results as others until I bumped up my carb intake.
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This interests me because I had to bump mine up due to having the strongest cravings for them that I have ever had rather than increasing them in a planned way.
 
bdcc said:
Atomic Fox has a detailed two week review for anyone who is interested despite the fact it uses a non PES branded supplement as well.

I managed to overlook this fact and forgive him lol.
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Haha I appreciate that ;)
 
I was trying my carbs after breakfast, didnt really notice much from Anabeta then I started including some complex carbs in all my meals and I noticed better pumps etc. I guess my hunger was always up. Thats probably the biggest thing I noticed from Anabeta was the increase in appetite. It was nuts.
 
bdcc said:
Milas- I often peruse your log and then the English bashing starting and I left, sulked and watched Coronation Street. Good feedback though, thank you for going into detail.

BigT- I found that I couldn't get full when on one capsule four times per day with food. I got to the point where I didn't want to eat anymore but struggled to ever feel satisfied. It was like shovelling food into a bottomless pit, very weird. I will have to be brave and try a double dose or dosing on an empty stomach and keep food close just in case. I could try taking AT2 with it for appetite suppression if it got out of hand.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I would rep you both but am unable to spread the love anymore.
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even with at2/combustion, my appetite went crazy at 2 pre 2 post.
 
Fightback, did you store body fat with increased carb intake? I did the same thing but lost fat which surprised me, especially as I gained weight.

BigT, do you find AT2 or other alpha yohimbe products to suppress your appetite usually?
 
For me, I've been dosing 1/1/1/1, all with/near meals. First one is dosed just after the conclusion of my breakfast (which is also my preworkout meal). Then the second one is dosed with postworkout meal. The third is dosed ~4 hours later.
And the last dose is with my pre-bed meal, but I take it just before beginning to consume food. I used to take this final dose either in the middle of, or at the conclusion of, my pre-bed meal. However, I had to change it to before the food, because otherwise when I awoke in the morning I would experience the most intense hunger imaginable. It literally felt like I was so hungry that my stomach was eating itself.

On a side note, I'll begin logging my experiences over on the muscle forum once I add in AT-2. Still just waiting for it to arrive.
 
bdcc said:
Fightback, did you store body fat with increased carb intake? I did the same thing but lost fat which surprised me, especially as I gained weight.

BigT, do you find AT2 or other alpha yohimbe products to suppress your appetite usually?
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I'm hoping i get results similar to those.

Carbs hate me.
 
ICJLM said:
For me, I've been dosing 1/1/1/1, all with/near meals. First one is dosed just after the conclusion of my breakfast (which is also my preworkout meal). Then the second one is dosed with postworkout meal. The third is dosed ~4 hours later.And the last dose is with my pre-bed meal, but I take it just before beginning to consume food. I used to take this final dose either in the middle of, or at the conclusion of, my pre-bed meal. However, I had to change it to before the food, because otherwise when I awoke in the morning I would experience the most intense hunger imaginable. It literally felt like I was so hungry that my stomach was eating itself.On a side note, I'll begin logging my experiences over on the muscle forum once I add in AT-2. Still just waiting for it to arrive.
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This is pertinent feedback, thank you.

I am very familiar with that hunger feeling and would get it in between meals as well, it was very extreme for me. I think I will stick with my 1 capsule QID regime and if I experiment it will be around workouts to start with.

I like trying different methods so I can offer a personal perspective on what works best when I am asked. For me I don't think there is a reason for running a higher dosage consistently. It was the best natural anabolic I ever used and can't always produce correlating results the higher you go, it has to have diminishing returns at some point. I couldn't expect better results without using something that would stop me being natural.

It is like putting on 5lbs of muscle and assuming doubling the dose will give you 10lbs I guess.
 
No, I really didnt gain any fat.
 
nattydisaster said:
Fat will not be an issue for anyone...unless you eat bad. Just like anything else
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This is what I am qualifying. A lot of people are scared to put fat on because they are getting hungrier but AnaBeta was very forgiving to me and appears to do the same with others.

My calories were worse than they were usually but I lost fat while on it.

I would be really curious to know how it would work for someone doing a really dirty bulk in terms of minimising fat gain and maximising muscle hypoertrophy.
 
Gotta remember its not the quantity of calories that should matter but rather the quality of calories.
 
fightbackhxc said:
Gotta remember its not the quantity of calories that should matter but rather the quality of calories.
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Well, I can get fat on oats, PB, whey and chicken! I just eat too damn much of it!!!

But yeah, results are always better when diet is very controlled and regulated for your goals. It seems like you can eat more with AnaBeta, which is a relief for people that really like food, like me :)

Very interesting though, the more info I see on it, the more it looks like a GHRP-6 type of effect. The testosterone boosting effect is the one thing that doesn't quite fit that model though. The additional hunger with minimal fat gain is just like GHRP, as is strength and mass gains. Anything out there showing some sort of link? I know y'all don't believe there's a link, but they just seem so similar to me...
 
Milas said:
Well, I can get fat on oats, PB, whey and chicken! I just eat too damn much of it!!!

But yeah, results are always better when diet is very controlled and regulated for your goals. It seems like you can eat more with AnaBeta, which is a relief for people that really like food, like me :)

Very interesting though, the more info I see on it, the more it looks like a GHRP-6 type of effect. The testosterone boosting effect is the one thing that doesn't quite fit that model though. The additional hunger with minimal fat gain is just like GHRP, as is strength and mass gains. Anything out there showing some sort of link? I know y'all don't believe there's a link, but they just seem so similar to me...
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Well I feel like people get to concerned about how many calories they are eating rather than what type of calories they are eating.
 
fightbackhxc said:
Well I feel like people get to concerned about how many calories they are eating rather than what type of calories they are eating.
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I think there's a lot of evidence, studies and data that supports that concern. I can control my weight +- 30lbs by controlling my calories. All the diet protocols out there that work are about calorie restriction.

While for overall health you should be more concerned with macro and micronutrients, weight gain/loss is pretty straight forward. Want to lose weight, eat less and move more. Gain weight, eat more and move less. Cheap, proven, effective!

I don't mean to diminish what you say, but I just don't think calories should be ignored in favor of "eating clean". It's a holistic thing getting diet "in check" that a lot of folks brush off and figure their diets are "in check" though they can't figure out why they can't gain/cut. I'm sick of people saying "diet in check brah" when they don't even track calories or macros to have any clue! Just one of my pet peeves I guess, LOL!
 
Milas said:
I think there's a lot of evidence, studies and data that supports that concern. I can control my weight +- 30lbs by controlling my calories. All the diet protocols out there that work are about calorie restriction.

While for overall health you should be more concerned with macro and micronutrients, weight gain/loss is pretty straight forward. Want to lose weight, eat less and move more. Gain weight, eat more and move less. Cheap, proven, effective!

I don't mean to diminish what you say, but I just don't think calories should be ignored in favor of "eating clean". It's a holistic thing getting diet "in check" that a lot of folks brush off and figure their diets are "in check" though they can't figure out why they can't gain/cut. I'm sick of people saying "diet in check brah" when they don't even track calories or macros to have any clue! Just one of my pet peeves I guess, LOL!
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Even so, if you are restricted say 200 calories below maintenance yet you are eating 2000 calories in bread and I am eating 2000 calories in fats and protein who is going to have the better body composition? Now I realize its a little silly to believe someone would eat 2000 calories in bread, but its just to make my point clear. You might lose weight since you are below maintenance but how much muscle are you going to lose?
 
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