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KLEEN - Gets REDEFINE’D & grows to 6% w/ 1-Andro & PCT Revolution Black (Sponsored)

hahaha.....with the aggression up, that means good things are coming. Nice story BTW Chris!! I was literally laughing my ass off as I can relate a lot to the situation.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I won't lie I was a little frightened in that situation
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you lie.. you lie... ur freakin diesel - I doubt they had anything on you! but cool your modest.
 
Dude, Kleen is a badass.

Your stories are awesome, man. I could totally see a Jason Statham 3-on-1 fight going down in the bathroom. Cut to the shot outside of people staring, hearing tons of noise, looking in shock -- then silence. Then Kleen walking outside, dusting off his hands and whistling.
 
ScottyDoc said:
OK, so we got our response back from Patrick Arnold (The Master), who helped us clear up the confusion...

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OK, so first and foremost, you guys are 100% right, Superdrol does NOT directly convert to Estrogen (Aromatise). The confusion lies in the fact that Superdrol causes a large amount of conversion of Testosterone to Aromatase (oxidation). Aromatase is an enzyme that converts Androgens in the body to Estrogen (Invalid Link Removed). Therefore it does cause a large increase in Estrogen in the body, but Superdrol itself does not armomatize and/or turn to estrogen itself.

Sorry for the confusion and THANK YOU for bringing this to our attention as we do NOT want to be putting out advertisement and literature that is false, as you can see, we changed our comparison advertisement. So again... THANK YOU!!!
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Good stuff, happy I caught that and hopefully that will save you from a bunch of questions ;).
 
Thank God people are so passive here or I would be in more trouble, I have a real alpha male mentality, not overly aggressive but draw the line in the sand don't take shyte kind of attitude like Chris... Maybe people around you are less passive or maybe it's cuz your younger but you seem to run into these situations more often. I do sometimes at the gym... I think the determining factor for deciding right and wrong in a situation like that is, who is imposing upon who's boundaries. Making noise at a theater is stepping on someones right to enjoy a movie, you have to draw the line. You should be able to save seats, if someone has a problem then they are trying to take your seats but if there are very few seats left perhaps some negotiation would be necessary...this one is not always black and white as some would abuse the unwritten save the seat rule.
 
Day 4 Lower Body A 12 reps

Okay for those of you who have not been following my other logs I am currently working towards a long term goal of Trap Bar Dead Lifting 405x20 in a rest pause style set. Meaning the reps can be continuous or I can put the bar down for anywhere up to about 10 seconds before attempting the next rep. I was up to 330 so far and this week I think I am set for 335. Anyway point and case being that I do them seperately when I get home from work in my garage instead of at the gym. So I do two workouts on this day. One for me leg press and calves at the gym. Then one doing trap bar dead lifts at home in the evening.

Leg Press 6 plates 12p, 16p +70lbs, 16p +80lbs - 10 lbs increase from last time.
Calve Machine - 270x15, 330x15
Hip Abduction - 70x12, 80x12
Stretching on stretching machine for about 5 minutes.

Tonight I will do 20 reps with 335 on Trap Bar Dead Lift then have a massive meal afterwards.

Oh yeah and as far as the pump goes with this product, when I finished my leg press this morning my shoulders were really pumped. Just from hanging on to keep my azz in the seat.


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LMAO! Love that one...

RickRock13 said:
hahaha.....with the aggression up, that means good things are coming. Nice story BTW Chris!! I was literally laughing my ass off as I can relate a lot to the situation.
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Definitely. I noticed yesterday feeling pumped a lot through out the day. By last night I had already caught a case of the flexes. I just keep having the urge to flex.
StangBanger said:
you lie.. you lie... ur freakin diesel - I doubt they had anything on you! but cool your modest.
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I am relatively confident in my fighting ability but 3 people is 3 people, anything can happen. Heck even 1 person... Could pop off to the 135 lb Golden Gloves champ and just get lit up. You never know...
Rahl said:
LOL. Entertaining log so far bro! Looks like a real nice set up. I'm IN!
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Thanks Rahl, I am liking it so far nice aggression so far.

MidwestBeast said:
Dude, Kleen is a badass.

Your stories are awesome, man. I could totally see a Jason Statham 3-on-1 fight going down in the bathroom. Cut to the shot outside of people staring, hearing tons of noise, looking in shock -- then silence. Then Kleen walking outside, dusting off his hands and whistling.
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That is awesome. I wish I was as bad ass as any of Jason Stathams characters. Although I do use lots of elbows, knees and headbutts. I am a bad ass for an average guy MAYBE but not a bad ass amongt bad asses.

oufinny said:
Good stuff, happy I caught that and hopefully that will save you from a bunch of questions ;).
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Yeah nice catch!
DreamWeaver said:
Thank God people are so passive here or I would be in more trouble, I have a real alpha male mentality, not overly aggressive but draw the line in the sand don't take shyte kind of attitude like Chris... Maybe people around you are less passive or maybe it's cuz your younger but you seem to run into these situations more often. I do sometimes at the gym... I think the determining factor for deciding right and wrong in a situation like that is, who is imposing upon who's boundaries. Making noise at a theater is stepping on someones right to enjoy a movie, you have to draw the line. You should be able to save seats, if someone has a problem then they are trying to take your seats but if there are very few seats left perhaps some negotiation would be necessary...this one is not always black and white as some would abuse the unwritten save the seat rule.
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Yeah there is just a decent amount of bravado around these parts. Lots of young punks and what not and plenty of loud obnoxious in your face women. Like to wave their hand and wag their head like a pissed of bobble head.
 
I would have punched her and not thought twice about it. If you get in my face and threaten and/or lay a hand on me, your gender becomes a non-issue. You sir are a better man for not losing it and that "cop" should have escorted her ass out in as embarrassing a way as possible. Yes the Andro I am on has me pissed reading that even if it is 7 years old.


ScottyDoc said:
I wanna buy him lunch for that story, LoL! We've all had stuff like that happen, I think I had probably the worst experience in my life as far as a strange woman pushing my buttons in a movie theatre....

Let see this had to be like 7+ years ago, it was opening night of Matrix 3 and I went and bought tickets for me, my wife, her brother and 2 of his friends because I went hours early to make sure they didn't sell out. I also was meeting another couple there as well. My wife and I got to the movie theater like 45mins early so we could get us all good seats. So I waited in line and sure enough we got the majority of the back row. I sat on one side and my wife went and sat on the other side with the couple we know with the 3 seats in between us for my wife's brother and his 2 friends. People were come up asking if the seats were taken and I would say yes and they would go on their way. Well low and behold here comes this woman with her 16yr old daughter and I told her, "sorry ma'am those seats are taken," she looked at me and said by who, I don't see anyone there, you can't save seats, and continued to try and push past me. I stood in her way and said, "Ma'am, I said those seats are taken!" and at this time she started to really push and shove and try to get past me, so much so I was losing my balance, now let me tell you, she was not a small woman, she was at least 6 feet tall and probably around the same weight as me 210 Lbs. So I start to shove her back, and she screams at the top of her lungs, "Don't you touch me, get your hands off me!" I said, "Ma'am you are not taking those seats!" she continued to push and when I was off balance jumped up on my seat and walked over the seats to get around me. There was really nothing I could do minus yanking her ass down and risking her getting hurt, which I was not prepared to do! I was so pissed, so I went down and go the policeman in front of the theatre, explained what happened and he went in there with me and spoke with her about it. She told him that I was pushing and shoving her and that she wanted to press charges, the policeman knew better, but didn't want to get into it, so he just offered me a refund. I told him No and I sat next to this Bitch throughout the entire movie, I had to move over to the other side where there was still one seat left just so I could sit next to my wife! I still to this day cannot believe someone would actually have the audacity to do something like that! That was the closest I ever came to just knocking a woman out, it got to me so bad, I stewed on that for days!

Not trying to be a one-upper Chris, just had to share my similar story! I am feeling ya Brotha!
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LMAO!!!! GO Matt Go!!! I was thinking as I read the first sentence DAYUM that Andro has him amped up. LOL
 
MrKleen73 said:
LMAO!!!! GO Matt Go!!! I was thinking as I read the first sentence DAYUM that Andro has him amped up. LOL
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Yeah the co-worker I share an office with is just complaining all morning and trying to get me to do something for her she is more than capable of doing, go figure reading something like that would fire me up!!!! Ok, no more talking about hitting a woman, I do feel like a D-Bag saying that but I swear that is how it would go down if my GF didn't kick her a** first.
 
MrKleen73 said:
LMAO!!!! GO Matt Go!!! I was thinking as I read the first sentence DAYUM that Andro has him amped up. LOL
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Matt is definitely AMPd up, that is for sure! I just can't hit a woman, but I'll sure shake the $hit out of her!!! (Chris Rock)

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LMAO, nice visual!
 
The lowest part had a few nasty spots but really the upper area above my navel was far worse than the lower part did.
 
This may be the first and last time I say this but I wanna be a shake weight!!!
 
Following along Kleen, man you keep so many threads open it's hard to follow them all! haha, keep up the good reads :D
 
MrKleen73 said:
This may be the first and last time I say this but I wanna be a shake weight!!!
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LMAO...funny thing is I had a Guy come up to me at work the other day and say "man you tried the shake weight? That ish really works man!! I can barely move my arms and it only takes a 6 minute workout!":toofunny:

I said "what are you training to be a professional fluffer for porn?" :laugh:
 
When are people going to understand, it takes hard work to get good results this is how God made it so we could progress. Now it is easier to work hard than a lot of people think, people just have a mental block... a fear of the unknown.
 
Alright so I don't have much to report today. I took this morning off to stay in bed and snuggle with the wife. A worth while endeavor so not gonna make any excuses why I didn't do cardio. I brought my stuff to go for a walk at lunch so I will at least get some light activity in today.

As far as yesterday I hit the 335x20 on Trap Bar Deads but it was extremely hard. I will stay here and solidify the 335 until it is a little easier then move up just a little bit.

RickRock13 said:
LMAO...funny thing is I had a Guy come up to me at work the other day and say "man you tried the shake weight? That ish really works man!! I can barely move my arms and it only takes a 6 minute workout!":toofunny:

I said "what are you training to be a professional fluffer for porn?" :laugh:
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So mean, lol. I can see it making someone sore if they don't workout. I messed with one that was out of it's box at Academy... Honestly it could give a pretty decent workout to most people who are not in shape or just trying to improve conditioning from couch potato to mildly active, which is who it targets. However the fact they use well muscle guys, and girls who have obviously lifted for quite some time in their fitness careers to be examples of what can be done with it is ridiculous.

DreamWeaver said:
When are people going to understand, it takes hard work to get good results this is how God made it so we could progress. Now it is easier to work hard than a lot of people think, people just have a mental block... a fear of the unknown.
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That and the pain that is associated with the first few workouts especially when you go gung ho into the program like most people do when they start off. Then they can't move and are like screw this. Or they spend money to get a trainer then the trainer takes them through a really hard workout to show how "GOOD" he is. THey become disenchanted due to douche baggery of the trainer.
 
So after my dead lifts last night I noticed how pumped my glutes were which was kind of funny. I just happened to turn to the side near the mirror and my ass was sticking out so far i had to laugh. I thought damn that reminds me of someone...

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Hers sticks out quite a bit too. Been watching the reality show with her and Ice-T
 

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MrKleen73 said:
So after my dead lifts last night I noticed how pumped my glutes were which was kind of funny. I just happened to turn to the side near the mirror and my ass was sticking out so far i had to laugh. I thought damn that reminds me of someone...

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Hers sticks out quite a bit too. Been watching the reality show with her and Ice-T
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That may be the first picture of her that I am seriously attracted to... nice find Chris.
 
MrKleen73 said:
This may be the first and last time I say this but I wanna be a shake weight!!!
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I'll let her shake my weight, LoL! I might even show her my "O-Face" :omfg:
 
DreamWeaver said:
When are people going to understand, it takes hard work to get good results this is how God made it so we could progress. Now it is easier to work hard than a lot of people think, people just have a mental block... a fear of the unknown.
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I know exactly what you mean, but I still love the oxymoron = "easy to work hard" My favorite that I use all the time is "skinny fat guy"
 
MrKleen73 said:
Or they spend money to get a trainer then the trainer takes them through a really hard workout to show how "GOOD" he is. THey become disenchanted due to douche baggery of the trainer.
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I know this may get your Alpha-Male Blood pumping, it definitely irritates me, but I know for a fact that they do exactly what you are talking about at LA Fitness here in Atlanta, GA. I knew one of the trainers and they are coached by higher-up trainers to put people through the ringer in hopes that they won't come back because they have a no return policy on their training sessions, so they hope to get paid and not have to actually train the people, how is that for douche baggery???
 
That is okay, if I already paid and the trainer pulled that I would remind them I was the boss since I was the customer and now we were going to do what I WANTED during the sessions. We are going to sit and read this workout book. I need more knowledge sit and read it to me. Thanks you... No we still have 45 minutes left your mouth is dry from reading. C'Mon, just 2 more, 2 more, 2 more pages and were done.
 
MrKleen73 said:
That and the pain that is associated with the first few workouts especially when you go gung ho into the program like most people do when they start off. Then they can't move and are like screw this. Or they spend money to get a trainer then the trainer takes them through a really hard workout to show how "GOOD" he is. THey become disenchanted due to douche baggery of the trainer.
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Yah, can only give people what you know they can handle both physically and psycchologically... then increase intensity as required as there physical and psychological selves get tougher... it's an art form...
 
slaves to pictures of sexy women- I read a study-Porn is commonly more accepted now a days then the 40's50's because people have instant access to it verses having to go to the adult store and many more people-men and women- probably more men though- look at it. The one thing where it can interfere is when it takes up time when you really need to be getting things done.
 
John Smeton said:
slaves to pictures of sexy women- I read a study-Porn is commonly more accepted now a days then the 40's50's because people have instant access to it verses having to go to the adult store and many more people-men and women- probably more men though- look at it. The one thing where it can interfere is when it takes up time when you really need to be getting things done.
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Well on that note... let me introduce my favorite Porn Star... Lanny Barbie! I know Kleen with like it because she has some Tats and I know my Canadian friends will like it because that is where she's from!

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Awesome! Interesting I really don't know too many names of anyone other than of course Jenna and she is just OMFG YUMMY!!! Everything about her does it for me. She has the best O face in the business. Otherwise I just kind of pull up scenes of action I am in the mood to see. Places like redtube . com make that so easy. Add to that with the Related or Suggested Vids based off of your search and man what a friggin gift of free porn. Get tired of this one just click one of the 15 other deep throat vids we pulled up for you...

LOVE IT!!!
 
How's the andro treating you Chris? Anything new to report besides aggression?
 
RickRock13 said:
How's the andro treating you Chris? Anything new to report besides aggression?
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Read his previous post and look at the pics he's been posting. I think libido has increased. lol
 
sounds like this stuff is doing some decent work.nice log here kleen I always learn something new when I read through your logs.
 
One Week review.

RickRock13 said:
How's the andro treating you Chris? Anything new to report besides aggression?
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So far so good. :) I will update a little more later.
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Read his previous post and look at the pics he's been posting. I think libido has increased. lol
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Yes my libido is back up to it's normal high.

mich29 said:
sounds like this stuff is doing some decent work.nice log here kleen I always learn something new when I read through your logs.
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Yes Sir it is doing it's thing.

Okay here are my impressions so far.

Strength - I expected I would not be able to increase on many of my weights this week since I had started having to struggle during the peak of the progestin run and there was no real bridge but more of just a switch from one compound to another. Surprisingly though, I made increases across the board on lifts.
Composition - at this point I do not see a change in composition I think today or tomorrow is day 10 and this is when Scottydoc said it will start kicking in or when it did for him.
Muscle Mass - I am about one lb heavier and same composition.
Pump - Muscles have definitely been fuller recently and when I lift even fasted I get pumped big time.
Muscle Flexes - I get the urge to flex my muscles HARD then slowly relax just to feel that feeling.
Libido - Libido had dropped quite on my last run a bit and is back up at this point.
Aggression and Alpha Male - When this hit at first I got all aggressive and alpha male. Now I am leveling off and really enjoying the alpha ale feeling. I haven't started feeling crazy confidence but yesterday I had a shirt on and the way it hung on me it was just like "Yeah I know I look good in this..." I am not an ego maniac so that doesn't happen too often.

Over all impression - I wasn't expecting too much right off the bat having come from another run. However the added androgens were obvious and I am very happy for them. Strength is still increasing, and I have not lost anything from my previous run. This has been a very positive week for something that is supposed to really kick in around day 10.
 
Great Log Chris, excellent details, Thank You! Also, very glad it is kicking in so quickly for you, I too am excited about your next couple of weeks!
 
How long are you running the 1-Andro for?
 
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY EVERYONE!!!!!!

gwls said:
Late as ever Chris but subbed!
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Welcome G

RickRock13 said:
Good update man. Looking forward to the next week;)
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Thanks!

ScottyDoc said:
Great Log Chris, excellent details, Thank You! Also, very glad it is kicking in so quickly for you, I too am excited about your next couple of weeks!
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Yeah, can't wait to see what happens after the feeding I have given it this weekend too. Big BBQ today as well so expect me coming out of the weekend a very full 210 at least. We will see what hangs on by next weekend and take some pics.

Milas said:
How long are you running the 1-Andro for?
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6 weeks 4/4/5/6/7/8 caps a day
 
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Okay I told you all I was going to update you all on my massive eating weekend. However let me update you on something else first. I need to go back and update my review at the 10 day mark I was actually weighing in at 207 once I got on the scale in the morning. That being said this weekend I ate. I mean I ate whatever the heck I felt like. We had a birthday celebration at work Friday so I had fajitas and carrot cake for lunch and then in the evening a reasonable dinner. However over the weekend I got crunk on food. Saturday was a build day and I always use it as a semi loose eating day anyway. Add to that yesterday being a holiday just for me. Yep I had whatever I wanted, chili dogs, hamburgers, chips, ice cream, and I had a six pack of honey lager throughout the day as well.

Anyway, I ate, and I enjoyed it. I hopped on the scale this morning for sh1ts and giggles and I was weighing 215, not that is filling up. Granted the tostada chips with extra salt blow me up. I will probably be down to about 210 by tomorrow and gradually go down farther throughout the rest of the week.

From this point on I am focusing more on the leaning up than just relaxing but I have held onto my stance that I am enjoying my holidays and what not thoroughly. Consider them anabolic boosts during my recomp if you will. Next one will be Independance Day celebration. However that will be a Monday so my Sunday will just have to be a burn day instead of maintenance. So it will keep it a little more inline with the overall plan. I already know we are having a big Seafood party for the 4rth, crawfish, crab and shrimp boil, lots of fish that has been caught over the past 2 weeks some shark too. So I will be having plenty of seafood and spicy new potatoes. Maybe I will toss in an extra lift or do Tuesdays lift day on Monday to make more use of the extra food.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Okay I told you all I was going to update you all on my massive eating weekend. However let me update you on something else first. I need to go back and update my review at the 10 day mark I was actually weighing in at 207 once I got on the scale in the morning. That being said this weekend I ate. I mean I ate whatever the heck I felt like. We had a birthday celebration at work Friday so I had fajitas and carrot cake for lunch and then in the evening a reasonable dinner. However over the weekend I got crunk on food. Saturday was a build day and I always use it as a semi loose eating day anyway. Add to that yesterday being a holiday just for me. Yep I had whatever I wanted, chili dogs, hamburgers, chips, ice cream, and I had a six pack of honey lager throughout the day as well.

Anyway, I ate, and I enjoyed it. I hopped on the scale this morning for sh1ts and giggles and I was weighing 215, not that is filling up. Granted the tostada chips with extra salt blow me up. I will probably be down to about 210 by tomorrow and gradually go down farther throughout the rest of the week.

From this point on I am focusing more on the leaning up than just relaxing but I have held onto my stance that I am enjoying my holidays and what not thoroughly. Consider them anabolic boosts during my recomp if you will. Next one will be Independance Day celebration. However that will be a Monday so my Sunday will just have to be a burn day instead of maintenance. So it will keep it a little more inline with the overall plan. I already know we are having a big Seafood party for the 4rth, crawfish, crab and shrimp boil, lots of fish that has been caught over the past 2 weeks some shark too. So I will be having plenty of seafood and spicy new potatoes. Maybe I will toss in an extra lift or do Tuesdays lift day on Monday to make more use of the extra food.
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I have to admit, I am still a little cautious aobut eating extra. I am so loving the way I look and feel and I have an opportunity to really show up this year, but beyond that living lean is really appealing to me right now. I still enjoy myself but can't really let go and just not worry about it. It's been so hard for me to get lean and I don't want to give it up.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I have to admit, I am still a little cautious aobut eating extra. I am so loving the way I look and feel and I have an opportunity to really show up this year, but beyond that living lean is really appealing to me right now. I still enjoy myself but can't really let go and just not worry about it. It's been so hard for me to get lean and I don't want to give it up.
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"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is the attitude I would take right now, once your show/s are complete and you want to relax a little, that is when I would play around with a cheat/blow-out day now and again! It is always easier to stay lean than to get lean. Either way, you are doing a fantastic job Brotha, you da Man you "Old Fugga" you! :thumbsup:
 
Nice update and cheat kleen! Haha. That made me hungry reading that. You've got to enjoy the holidays bro. I kicked back a six pack of margaritas on father's day myself. :D Yeah I'm a little bloated but it will fade. LOL
 
ScottyDoc said:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is the attitude I would take right now, once your show/s are complete and you want to relax a little, that is when I would play around with a cheat/blow-out day now and again! It is always easier to stay lean than to get lean. Either way, you are doing a fantastic job Brotha, you da Man you "Old Fugga" you! :thumbsup:
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Thanks appreciate all the support you guys give.. I am very excited about what's happening right now... going to the gym again tonight can't wait...
 
DreamWeaver said:
I have to admit, I am still a little cautious aobut eating extra. I am so loving the way I look and feel and I have an opportunity to really show up this year, but beyond that living lean is really appealing to me right now. I still enjoy myself but can't really let go and just not worry about it. It's been so hard for me to get lean and I don't want to give it up.
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Absolutely, Doug if I were heading to a show or seriously contemplating squeezing one in this year I would be more strict like you are being. Today I am thicker than I want to be for me but this thicker is still leaner than the last point that I called to thick. In otherwords how far out from a certain shape I will allow myself to get keeps getting to be a smaller and smaller incriment. This morning for the first time I was like ok I am just too bloated. However like I said I will have ran through a good 3-5 lbs of fluids and be much lighter and dryer by morning. Heck I could take an Epson salt bath and get most of it off tonight I am sure.
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this is sounding very promising Kleen, you are the right guy to log it for all of us for sure!
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Thanks Nerd! You just can't type that and have it look positive. LOL

ScottyDoc said:
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is the attitude I would take right now, once your show/s are complete and you want to relax a little, that is when I would play around with a cheat/blow-out day now and again! It is always easier to stay lean than to get lean. Either way, you are doing a fantastic job Brotha, you da Man you "Old Fugga" you! :thumbsup:
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Exactly, you are kicking azz Doug, and have a different goal than mine. Mine is to meander down to 6% while building a little mass. Yours is to get in shape for a contest this year. You are working towards something in a time frame and I am happy with getting there when I get there. Anything below 9% is pretty okay for me. Abs are there and I don't look fat. So the urgency is not there for me to drop quickly, just to arrive there at some point.

Rahl said:
Nice update and cheat kleen! Haha. That made me hungry reading that. You've got to enjoy the holidays bro. I kicked back a six pack of margaritas on father's day myself. :D Yeah I'm a little bloated but it will fade. LOL
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Life is way to important not to live it just because you want to look a certain way. Depriving yourself of things like that when there is no reason to is not something I am interested in any longer. When doing a show or having some other reason to stick vigilantly to a diet sure but otherwise. Life is just to important, we get one go around here on Earth and I don't want to be looking back at my life going Oh yeah that is when I told my daughter I wouldn't eat her birth day cake, or share that dessert with my wife on date night. Nah, just not worth it to me right now. I have given up enough birthday cake over chasing a six pack when I don't have to do so.

One thing I am noticing with Lean Gains, or any kind of Intermittent fasting is if my last meal is too big then I get a bit of indigestion the following day. This is going to make me revisit my plan to hold off until the last meal and then have a huge meal. Instead I am going to hold out until 3:30-4:00 and begin eating and eat until about 8:00 taking in only what I can comfortably eat during that time. Maybe have a shake then have a large but not ridiculous meal for dinner, or 2 meals or just one 4 hour long grazing period where I just kind of eat as I go.
 
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