fatburner2007
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Besides viagra, what is the next best thing? Something like Perform or L-Arginine-Ornithine or just plain icariin? Not interested in yohimbine HCL.
Next Best Thing To Viagra...
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fatburner2007
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Any suggestions?
princevince
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CAPATREX
fatburner2007
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fatburner2007
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Any suggestions on a High dose/good quality icariin? Dosage recommendations? Does L-Arginine provide much benefit?
lonewolf0420
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Testforce2
ambulldog
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to equal the results of script pde5 inh ive read somewhere that the dose of icarii have to be very very high.
JudgementDay
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Icariin 50 is sick for libido boost, also really liked Testofen.
ambulldog
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i think hes more interested in something that makes baseball bats lol
fatburner2007
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JudgementDay
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Anyone try the Axcite Magnum? New product on Nutra that supposed to make baseball bats lol
Outstanding
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There is a research peptide, PT-141 (I can't remember if this is right now that I'm trying to think of it, too bad there isn't IMDB for everything in life, ha!) which has some VERY powerful effects.
Something else that I read, but have not personally experienced, is that Prolensis brand Bulbine went head to head with Viagra on treating ED, and 'won,' according to write-ups I've perused. Something else would be high dosed Fadogia (STEM EXTRACT ONLY) like that found in HCGenerate (although it's out of stock), or Choline Bitartrate.
Of course, liquid Viagra can be procured easily for $20-40 online from many research sites. I'm not advocating buying it, since I've had some sketchy results from various sites over the years, I'm just saying it isn't a big financial risk if you want to see how it works.
Something else that I read, but have not personally experienced, is that Prolensis brand Bulbine went head to head with Viagra on treating ED, and 'won,' according to write-ups I've perused. Something else would be high dosed Fadogia (STEM EXTRACT ONLY) like that found in HCGenerate (although it's out of stock), or Choline Bitartrate.
Of course, liquid Viagra can be procured easily for $20-40 online from many research sites. I'm not advocating buying it, since I've had some sketchy results from various sites over the years, I'm just saying it isn't a big financial risk if you want to see how it works.
956Vette
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PT-141 dosed low, alongside a PDE5 like viagra/cialis = SUPERMAN :saevilw:
fatburner2007
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It's super affordable a lot of places too... I just don't like buying research chems from anywhere online. Over all these years and years I've YET to receive an order of research serms etc that were potent and pure. EVER.
windwords7
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Fascinating read here that has launched me on one of my reading rabbit trails this morning. It's not easy sourcing good research chem sites but I am interested in this. I used to have a few that were decent but that was a long time ago. I had never even heard of this. Fantastic study and drug indeed.
DragonRider
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If you need a PDE 5 inhibitor to get and erection, then nothing over the counter will work as well as the PDE5 inhibitor.
If you have an over the counter product that you believe works, then you don't have to use a PDE 5 inhibitor to get an erection. You can get one without it.
If you have an over the counter product that you believe works, then you don't have to use a PDE 5 inhibitor to get an erection. You can get one without it.
Whacked
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Lumalux
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Black ant
I can vouch for the effectiveness of black ant extract. I've been taking 1,000-2,000 mg daily of the 10:1 extract and it has made me one horny dude. It is by far the most effective aphrodesiac I have ever used. I am a 45-year-old healthy and active male. The effect is felt very quickly and it seems to stay active for quite a while. I have been dosing it every 12 hours and still feel the effects throughout the 12 hours. I can honestly say I have never been this continuously horny. Ever.
I'm not sure what is in it but it sure feels like my test levels have gone through the roof. I am horny all night long with major wood every time I wake up. I got up this morning with a flag pole between my legs. I'm horny all day long too with thoughts of sex constantly on my mind.
I woke up this morning and my face was noticeably oilier. Overall, I have felt great on this stuff -- much better mood and I've felt more aggressive. All indications of increased test.
There is not a lot of information about black ant extract out there but I see that it is in some sex supplements.
Does anyone know anything about it?
I can vouch for the effectiveness of black ant extract. I've been taking 1,000-2,000 mg daily of the 10:1 extract and it has made me one horny dude. It is by far the most effective aphrodesiac I have ever used. I am a 45-year-old healthy and active male. The effect is felt very quickly and it seems to stay active for quite a while. I have been dosing it every 12 hours and still feel the effects throughout the 12 hours. I can honestly say I have never been this continuously horny. Ever.
I'm not sure what is in it but it sure feels like my test levels have gone through the roof. I am horny all night long with major wood every time I wake up. I got up this morning with a flag pole between my legs. I'm horny all day long too with thoughts of sex constantly on my mind.
I woke up this morning and my face was noticeably oilier. Overall, I have felt great on this stuff -- much better mood and I've felt more aggressive. All indications of increased test.
There is not a lot of information about black ant extract out there but I see that it is in some sex supplements.
Does anyone know anything about it?
middleageguy
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Let me ask why you don't just ask your doctor for Viagra? Why are you looking for something else? I can’t imagine a doctor not prescribing it to you. Just the fact that you’re asking questions should be enough for your doctor to give you a prescription. No doctor is going to say I don’t think you really need it, really. Get the highest dosage, get the 100mg and cut it down with a pill cutter to the amount that works for you. The 100mg costs the same as the 25mg at the pharmacy. Explain to your doctor that’s what you’re going to do and they will prescribe you the 100mg. That is what a urologist I went to years ago told me to do when I originally got a prescription. I told the pharmacist my doctor told me to do this and she said you have a smart doctor, they are the same price. Many insurances companies won’t cover the cost/prescription so it’s the smart thing to do.
cumkwakka
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holy smokes then it must be some powerful stuff! i used that stuff and it was way better than viagra or cialis
how long do you use black ant extract and what time do you need to wait to see results?
what product are you using, can you also talk about dosing it?
thanks
Lumalux
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I loved the old Aspire, but Black Ant did not give me that kind of response.
The black ant I am using has been more of a sex drive boost -- mostly mental.
I suspect the preparation you used that had black ant in it also had the PDE-5 inhibitor compounds that was in Aspire. There is no mistaking the lead pipe boners, blue vision and pounding headaches from that.
Where did you get your black ant extract?
princevince
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watch out for the black ant knock-off's. there's a few out there.
Imeniaan
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how long did it take for you to feel the effects? and what is the name of the product/brand you are taking?
Lumalux
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I bought mine from Barlowe's Herbal Elixirs.
I've been taking it for over a month. I felt an effect very quickly -- within a day or so.
Imeniaan
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ok, thanks for the quick reply. are you sure that thier product is legit? you are taking 4 capsules a day? how is your energy on this? and your sleep?
thanks
Lumalux
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The company seems legit. I have spoken with Barlowe (that is his first name) on the phone.
The extract seems to affect my mood more than energy. I think it helps brighten my mood. I've had a more positive outlook and I just feel better.
I take 2 capsules at 12 hour intervals.
Sleep seems to be unaffected.
MrBigPR
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A friend in China sends me about 80 caps for about 15 bucks...it comes in a little green box with an ant.
1 cap produces "some" effects, but at 2 you get the flushing, minor headache and boners you seek (no homo). I literally went 4 hours straight last time with no decrease in performance, getting better with each ejaculation (TMI?). Just being real with you guys, if this offends anyone I apologize
Movin_weight
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if you want a PDE5 inhibitor such as viagra or cialis, then just click the big as* banner thats posted on this page.... CEM carries all that stuff
sildenafil is viagra
taladafil is cialis
there are other less expensive sites, but I can only mention board sponsors
sildenafil is viagra
taladafil is cialis
there are other less expensive sites, but I can only mention board sponsors
Imeniaan
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i really think you black ant is spiked with sildenafil
luclyluciano
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Basically, anything that will cause a rapid surge in testosterone would work wonders, since that morning pulse is what science shows us is responsible for that pre-dawn erection.
As far as something else on the market, I received a newsletter from a company that is known for selling raw powders and proteins, and also saw on Nutra Planet a 'Natty V' product is also out now. Invalid Link Removed
As far as something else on the market, I received a newsletter from a company that is known for selling raw powders and proteins, and also saw on Nutra Planet a 'Natty V' product is also out now. Invalid Link Removed
Gutterpump
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Where is that science on this? Any articles?
I am on test injections (TRT) and don't have a pulse (steady release 24/7), yet I get morning wood. In fact anytime I'm dozing off, the buddy seems to rise. I don't think it has anything to do with a test pulse per say.
hardknock
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I've bought for myself or bought for others some type of research chem for over 5 years from at least 10 different places and none have been "according to label claims". Some I have even had tested and of course they were not close to label claims.
Outstanding
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I questioned this conclusion as well, but it was a main point in an article I just read through with citations, and authored by a medical doctor, in this month's Muscular Development magazine.
Yeah... shame isn't it? I don't understand it, truly I don't. Even though these 'gray market' dealers are simply looking to make a profit, these peptides are so DIRT cheap, how on Earth could they even consider dosing lower than label claims? We're talking milli and even micrograms!
DragonRider
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Where are you having these tested? How much was the test?
hardknock
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Before I decided to go back to school and finish my PHD in engineering...I had a stint that involved me getting engaged with a person that worked for the FDA. I reentered undergrad, hoping, ultimately, i would end up with a license in dietetic work. I had been burned out with technology and computers (been doing it since my brother got me a computer in 3rd grade)
During this time, I made several connections which gave me some routes for certain favors if needed...needless to say the relationship did not fair as it should have...
On top of that, I have a few friends in the medical science field that are professors as well and they also have access to laboratories that test for purity, which I can get some items tested...
To end, I also use the same labs some of the guys on this board use if the first two paths are not available at the time I need them..
So to answer your question, various routes....and quite expensive depending
I don't do it really anymore because I really do not get into supplements other than ones purely for health reason (heart, prostate, liver, etc). I am at an age now where it is more important to protect my longevity rather than build an extra muscle or two or wake up with iron under the covers. Also, I have tested these waters for the better part of 20 years and I have a set of products and companies i know I can trust so i have no need to continue the Russian roulette routine.
EDIT: I was engaged TO a female that worked FDA, not "engaged" with as in some secret underground operation just to clear that up before it runs rapid.
hardknock
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LOL, actually I was being quite polite. The truth is that most were not below label claims, most just did not have the active ingredient in it at all...