Guest viewing is limited

AndroHard – The most powerful recomposition formula on the market

rulk22 said:
Thats goin to take a lot of effort. Losing 4lbs easy, but to make sure its fat and not water can be harder. I think if you diet hard enough and excercise intense enough, the lean and hard stack should indeed help in your efforts. Make sure you follow the guide lines to insure a 150% money back guarantee, if unsatisfied. Good luck brotha.
Click to expand...

Could you comment on the estimated results of one of bottle of the two extended over the course of 6 weeks, versus the originally stated 4 weeks?

Is there more to it than the following?,

3. The 150% money back guarantee applies to the AndroSeries products only. To qualify for 150% money back, feedback must be provided about user age, training, diet, cycle history, cycle length, dose used and concurrently used supplements or drugs.
 
MAxximal said:
you are prone to hair loss?
Click to expand...


i dont know, my father is bald. though they say it depends from the mother-side of the family. if any male member from your mother's side is bald then you will go ball also.

im 33 years old and my doctor sees no signs of receeding hair line. so for the most part the answer is no.

though is that accurate though? is there a way to know for sure if your are prone to hairloss or not?
 
x_danny_x said:
i dont know, my father is bald. though they say it depends from the mother-side of the family. if any male member from your mother's side is bald then you will go ball also.

im 33 years old and my doctor sees no signs of receeding hair line. so for the most part the answer is no.

though is that accurate though? is there a way to know for sure if your are prone to hairloss or not?
Click to expand...

It has to do with you getting the two dominant genes to lead to you going bald. My mother's father and all his brothers are bald and were at a young age; father's side all had hair into their 80s. Me, 29 and no receding hairline though my hair is fine so I am sure there is some expression there. Basically, if you have the recessive gene like it sounds like you do, there will most likely be no issue. I had zero shedding last time I took it.
 
oufinny said:
It has to do with you getting the two dominant genes to lead to you going bald. My mother's father and all his brothers are bald and were at a young age; father's side all had hair into their 80s. Me, 29 and no receding hairline though my hair is fine so I am sure there is some expression there. Basically, if you have the recessive gene like it sounds like you do, there will most likely be no issue. I had zero shedding last time I took it.
Click to expand...


i see, so i dont need Nettle Root for the hairline issue but i do need to take it for my thyroid not to get too worked up correct? or do i just take Toca-8??
 
x_danny_x said:
i see, so dont the Nettle Root for the hairline issue but i do need to take for my thyroid not to get too worked up correct? or do i just take Toca-8??
Click to expand...

Invalid Link Removed
When this is in stock, here is a good suggestion.

Invalid Link Removed
Hairline.

I really don't see you needing more unless you want to take Pumpkin Seed oil for your prostate; I used it on cycle as an extra precaution, it is cheap so why not.

Thyroid should in no way be an issue, heck I woulds tack PES Shift or Alpha-T2 with it to further ramp up your metabolism!
 
okay excellent, i will review those links. damn had to delete them from my post when i quoted you. wont let me post until i have 50 posts or more. strange rule to have.


yeah, just getting info right now on the Andro Series since it is too much money for me to buy at the moment. waiting for the price to go down as well when the company starts making profit from the surpluss of customers.

right now my stack is Alpha-t2 from PES, Titanium from Athletix, Erase from PES, and Eviscerate. two fat burners and two test boosters at the moment.
 
x_danny_x said:
okay excellent, i will review those links. damn had to delete them from my post when i quoted you. wont let me post until i have 50 posts or more. strange rule to have.


yeah, just getting info right now on the Andro Series since it is too much money for me to buy at the moment. waiting for the price to go down as well when the company starts making profit from the surpluss of customers.

right now my stack is Alpha-t2 from PES, Titanium from Athletix, Erase from PES, and Eviscerate. two fat burners and two test boosters at the moment.
Click to expand...

Good stack, get that diet right and train hard, you will get great results.
 
x_danny_x said:
thanks! with this stack, will it be as powerful as some mid-tier prohormones or not even close?
Click to expand...

Your results depend on your diet and your training. Keep the diet clean, calories at or below maintenance, carbs low and you should do well. Supps aren't magic, neither are pro-hormones or AAS for that matter. I made all of my gains throughout my time when my diet was in order, when it isn't, don't expect a whole lot.
 
Whacked said:
But wont that simply BLOCK the action of AndoHard (DHT), defeating the purpose???



Also, for what it's worth, I've been using this product for years and it seems to have kept any and all prostate issue at bay. Duely noted, I used gear for 10 years. Seems to be a decent product.

Invalid Link Removed
Click to expand...

actually its the saw palmetto that will do that....its why i said nettle root

nice link, ill look into that as well.....imo way too much emphasis is put on the liver when prostate and hdl are always overlooked but imo pose more serious ramifications should problems arise

thanks bud
 
sking6464 said:
imo way too much emphasis is put on the liver when prostate and hdl are always overlooked but imo pose more serious ramifications should problems arise

thanks bud
Click to expand...

I couldnt agree more. And it drives me crazy everyone over looks this. Non methylated steroids will cause reduction in HDL, as well as prostate enlargement, especially if it is androgenic or 5a reduced.
 
nattydisaster said:
I couldnt agree more. And it drives me crazy everyone over looks this. Non methylated steroids will cause reduction in HDL, as well as prostate enlargement, especially if it is androgenic or 5a reduced.
Click to expand...

Prostate, for sure, but the lipids won't take as bad a hit because the liver stays healthy. Or so I assume. Any reason not to think that?
 
Ginandtonic said:
Could you comment on the estimated results of one of bottle of the two extended over the course of 6 weeks, versus the originally stated 4 weeks?

Is there more to it than the following?,

3. The 150% money back guarantee applies to the AndroSeries products only. To qualify for 150% money back, feedback must be provided about user age, training, diet, cycle history, cycle length, dose used and concurrently used supplements or drugs.
Click to expand...

I think using these compounds are goin to work great in the right hands, but I dont really know anything about your knowledge and persistance of nutrition and excercise. Giving you a vague answer im sure is not what your looking for, but I think if you work hard and diet right, your goin to be suprised and very happy with the overall outcome. If not there is always the 100% money back guarantee. The 150% money back guarantee involves a lot and id make sure you follow the requirements to be elligible for that. Personally I dont see it happening because these products are so potent and if Eric believes in them, then I would too.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Prostate, for sure, but the lipids won't take as bad a hit because the liver stays healthy. Or so I assume. Any reason not to think that?
Click to expand...

It SEEMS that the drop in estrogen levels from drop of testosterone levels cause a fluctuation in HDL too. I say seems because I haven't seen good documentation of it, but its what it looks like to me. It may not cause as huge a swing of HDL/LDL levels as a methylated one does, but it doesn't cause none either.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Prostate, for sure, but the lipids won't take as bad a hit because the liver stays healthy. Or so I assume. Any reason not to think that?
Click to expand...

There is a study that shows as testosterone levels increase, HDL decreases. They compared 75mg, 150mg, 300mg, and 600mg. It is steroid in the blood in general, whether they are methylated or not.

Methylated steroids are even worse on the lipids, because they dont allow perfect liver function. But a non methylated steroid will still drop your HDL without effecting your liver.

Just look at studies done with non C-17 methylated steroids on HDL. Testosterone, all injectables, MENT, etc.
 
MAxximal said:
The "old" Androhard @ 1000mg a day will blow your prostate not literally but the pain become very uncomfortable when you go to pee.

so is good add some Nettle Root Extract a.k.a Divanil (3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran)

Nettle root inhibits the binding of DHT to attachment sites on the prostate membrane.
Click to expand...

Just a feedback on this;

I'm at 1000mg a day for a little now, no real feelings regarding prostate, seems to be working just fine, no pain either.

Don't know if it's due to the insane amount of water I drink on a regular basis or the fact that I take Life Support regularly that has been helping, but no sides there for me!
 
On the topic of Nettle Root, I've also heard that it prevents conversion from testosteron to DHT. This is usually touted as a positive effect, i.e. no hair loss or prostate complications, but we also have products on the market like AndroHard which are specifically claiming to raise DHT levels.

Can anyone clear up this apparent contradiction for me? Would nettle root interfere with the activity of AndroHard, if it's helping to keep T levels high and DHT levels low?
 
Flabby said:
On the topic of Nettle Root, I've also heard that it prevents conversion from testosteron to DHT. This is usually touted as a positive effect, i.e. no hair loss or prostate complications, but we also have products on the market like AndroHard which are specifically claiming to raise DHT levels.

Can anyone clear up this apparent contradiction for me? Would nettle root interfere with the activity of AndroHard, if it's helping to keep T levels high and DHT levels low?
Click to expand...

It would not effect androhard. DHT is very androgenic, rather than anabolic.

People want to lower DHT because DHT causes hair loss and prostate enlargement. Some people dont care and want to increase DHT, because it makes them more "lean" and "aggressive". That is what Androhards claim is
 
I'm not getting what grapefruit juice has to do with this, is it in the AH or are we just talking about people having it in theyre diet? If i take the Ah can I still take my meds at night?
 
TBULL said:
I'm not getting what grapefruit juice has to do with this, is it in the AH or are we just talking about people having it in theyre diet? If i take the Ah can I still take my meds at night?
Click to expand...

Grapefruit extract is part of the delivery system within the AndroSeries.
 
nattydisaster said:
It would not effect androhard.
Click to expand...

I don't understand - nettle Root inhibits conversion of test to DHT, but nettle root wouldn't affect Androhard? I thought the whole idea with Androhard is that it has a proprietary complex to assist conversion of various more inert hormones to DHT? Seems like you'd be pulling from both directions and in the end just staying in the same place.
 
Flabby said:
I don't understand - nettle Root inhibits conversion of test to DHT, but nettle root wouldn't affect Androhard? I thought the whole idea with Androhard is that it has a proprietary complex to assist conversion of various more inert hormones to DHT? Seems like you'd be pulling from both directions and in the end just staying in the same place.
Click to expand...

There actually is a very pronounced DHT effect from nettle. That's why you get hardening, vascularity, and aggression from it. It does, however, prevent it in the prostate.
 
Flabby said:
I don't understand - nettle Root inhibits conversion of test to DHT, but nettle root wouldn't affect Androhard? I thought the whole idea with Androhard is that it has a proprietary complex to assist conversion of various more inert hormones to DHT? Seems like you'd be pulling from both directions and in the end just staying in the same place.
Click to expand...

5a reductase inhibitors black testosterone from being reduced at the 5 position. If testosterone is reduced at the 5 position it converts to DHT

Androhard is already reduced at the 5 position, so a 5a reductase inhibitor cant do anything with it

Idk if nettle root is a 5a reductase inhibitor or not but I was assuming it was
 
Rodja said:
There actually is a very pronounced DHT effect from nettle. That's why you get hardening, vascularity, and aggression from it. It does, however, prevent it in the prostate.
Click to expand...

hm. Interesting Rodja.
 
Would this be too hardcore to take for my first cycle? I'm 24 and soft as dough and i'm looking for just something to run for my first time, no stacking or anything else
involved until I've done a cycle of something and a PCT run first. I'm just not confident enough to trust myself with stacking and getting the dosages right etc. etc. first time through.

What kind of PCT do you guys recommend running after this? as long as it's avaliable on the internet then please any advice would be great thank you.
 
EasyEJL said:
It SEEMS that the drop in estrogen levels from drop of testosterone levels cause a fluctuation in HDL too. I say seems because I haven't seen good documentation of it, but its what it looks like to me. It may not cause as huge a swing of HDL/LDL levels as a methylated one does, but it doesn't cause none either.
Click to expand...

nattydisaster said:
There is a study that shows as testosterone levels increase, HDL decreases. They compared 75mg, 150mg, 300mg, and 600mg. It is steroid in the blood in general, whether they are methylated or not.

Methylated steroids are even worse on the lipids, because they dont allow perfect liver function. But a non methylated steroid will still drop your HDL without effecting your liver.

Just look at studies done with non C-17 methylated steroids on HDL. Testosterone, all injectables, MENT, etc.
Click to expand...


That's why i said the lipids don't take "as bad of a hit" as with methylated steroids. Haters!!!!
 
GOGS said:
Would this be too hardcore to take for my first cycle? I'm 24 and soft as dough and i'm looking for just something to run for my first time, no stacking or anything else
involved until I've done a cycle of something and a PCT run first. I'm just not confident enough to trust myself with stacking and getting the dosages right etc. etc. first time through.

What kind of PCT do you guys recommend running after this? as long as it's avaliable on the internet then please any advice would be great thank you.
Click to expand...

Well what is your diet and training history. No doubt these products will work for you, but I would like to see where you are at with diet and training first.
 
If you guys are worried about Prostate issues you should try Source Naturals Prosta-Response. I've been using it about 6 months-1 year. Source Naturals makes great products I really wish Nutraplanet would pick up there line. The company is listed on there site but there are no products listed.

Sorry I'm a little off topic. I'm taking the original AndroHard at the recommended dosage and it has been great!. I see no need to double the dosage.
 
GOGS said:
Would this be too hardcore to take for my first cycle? I'm 24 and soft as dough and i'm looking for just something to run for my first time, no stacking or anything else
involved until I've done a cycle of something and a PCT run first. I'm just not confident enough to trust myself with stacking and getting the dosages right etc. etc. first time through.

What kind of PCT do you guys recommend running after this? as long as it's avaliable on the internet then please any advice would be great thank you.
Click to expand...

You will be sorely disappointed.
 
ryansm said:
?????:33:
Click to expand...

Not really sure where the confusion is...

Recommending ANY cycle to a 24 year old who's "soft as dough", a novice to training and dieting, and clueless to hormonal compounds, is the last thing anyone should be doing regardless if you're a rep or not.

He could run test/deca for 12 weeks and he'd be disappointed.
 
Rodja said:
There actually is a very pronounced DHT effect from nettle. That's why you get hardening, vascularity, and aggression from it. It does, however, prevent it in the prostate.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the help (Thanks to nattydisaster too!). I guess i just got bad info about DHT somewhere.

There is an interesting read in another thread about Nettle Root and its effects on DHT and DHT binding to different parts of the body (muscles, scalp, prostate), but my post count isn't high enough to post the link yet. Just search for nettle and DHT and you'll find it.

Needless to say, the new Primordial Performance products are pretty intriguing. Can't wait to see more logs and reviews popping up.
 
TxHomeGrown said:
Not really sure where the confusion is...

Recommending ANY cycle to a 24 year old who's "soft as dough", a novice to training and dieting, and clueless to hormonal compounds, is the last thing anyone should be doing regardless if you're a rep or not.

He could run test/deca for 12 weeks and he'd be disappointed.
Click to expand...

I get what you're saying.
 
TxHomeGrown said:
Not really sure where the confusion is...

Recommending ANY cycle to a 24 year old who's "soft as dough", a novice to training and dieting, and clueless to hormonal compounds, is the last thing anyone should be doing regardless if you're a rep or not.

He could run test/deca for 12 weeks and he'd be disappointed.
Click to expand...

Anyone who runs a cycle and is soft as dough is dumb as s***. I completely agree with this post!
 
oufinny said:
Anyone who runs a cycle and is soft as dough is dumb as s***. I completely agree with this post!
Click to expand...

Yah unless they are benching 350+ and squatting/deadlifting 450+... "soft as dough" in terms of a big powerlifter lol
 
T-Bone said:
If you guys are worried about Prostate issues you should try Source Naturals Prosta-Response. I've been using it about 6 months-1 year. Source Naturals makes great products I really wish Nutraplanet would pick up there line. The company is listed on there site but there are no products listed.

Sorry I'm a little off topic. I'm taking the original AndroHard at the recommended dosage and it has been great!. I see no need to double the dosage.
Click to expand...

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on AH.

Eric swears by this product: Invalid Link Removed for prostate concerns.
 
HereToStudy said:
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on AH.

Eric swears by this product: Invalid Link Removed for prostate concerns.
Click to expand...

The old Androhard worked great and I didnt really see any negative sides from it, such as prostate issues. Definatly looking forward to trying and comparing the new version.
 
rulk22 said:
The old Androhard worked great and I didnt really see any negative sides from it, such as prostate issues. Definatly looking forward to trying and comparing the new version.
Click to expand...

I imagine the new one is only going to work better right? Same dose of the ingredient as the old, with another ingredient it looks like
 
nattydisaster said:
I imagine the new one is only going to work better right? Same dose of the ingredient as the old, with another ingredient it looks like
Click to expand...

I believe that is the case. You are going from 30% bio-availability to upwards of 80%+ so I don't see why any more active would be needed. People are running the OG up at 800-1000 mg per day to get the same effects the new one is purported to produce.
 
TxHomeGrown said:
Not really sure where the confusion is...

Recommending ANY cycle to a 24 year old who's "soft as dough", a novice to training and dieting, and clueless to hormonal compounds, is the last thing anyone should be doing regardless if you're a rep or not.

He could run test/deca for 12 weeks and he'd be disappointed.
Click to expand...

Confusion was the context of your statement. If you read my post to him you will find I agree with you and stated so.
 
oufinny said:
Anyone who runs a cycle and is soft as dough is dumb as s***. I completely agree with this post!
Click to expand...

ill bump that too.....good stuff it seems, but magic pills no

maybe on the HSN theres some **** theyll get out to him on one of those flex payment plans....eat **** and be ripped, with the fkn thermo image of the colon all red n hot, burning away the stomach
 
sking6464 said:
ill bump that too.....good stuff it seems, but magic pills no

maybe on the HSN theres some **** theyll get out to him on one of those flex payment plans....eat **** and be ripped, with the fkn thermo image of the colon all red n hot, burning away the stomach
Click to expand...

Sometimes I just don't even know what you're saying, lol
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top