Here is a post I found on another forum about what the difference could mean if its 2-ene...If it is going to me 2-ene that would be awesome.
QUOTE " 1. 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-3-one (Cyanostane; Vida A-42)
2. 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-acetoxy-5a-androst-2-ene (Alvarez-Ginarte et al.; Vida A-53)
3. 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-2-ene (posted by you; Vida A-43)
The numbers for compounds 1 and 2 are not that impressive. But compound 3, the one you refer to in your post, is quite interesting:
1. (A-42): LA = 30, VP = 10, SV = (<10); Q = 60 / (<20) > 3
2. (A-53): LA = 22, VP = 4, SV = 17; Q = 44 / 21 = 2
3. (A-43): LA = 800, VP = 20, SV = 73; Q = 1600 / 93 = 20
Interestingly, compound A-43 is listed again in table 4.3 on page 267 of Vida, where he gives the numbers you quoted: anabolic = 800, androgenic = 45, Q = 800/45 = 20.
By comparing these numbers, I learned something. The anabolic/androgenic ratio, Q, is actually calculated to one significant figure as
Q = LA / (average of VP and SV) = 2 x LA / (VP + SV)
and not LA/VP as I claimed in my previous post. The Q values in this post are calculated using the correct formula.
Anyway, looking back at compounds 1, 2 and 3... are we sure that Cyanostane is the 3-one? If so, that's bad news. If it's the 2-ene, however, I think this compound could rock!
So, did the OP mistype the name of the compound or are we all on a wild goose chase here?
Do you know for sure which compound it is?
Does anybody know? "END QUOTE
