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Why do you use PH when there are real stuff ?

kanakafarian said:
I'm assuming access to legit gear for most? For myself, I'm just a 200lbs sissy when it comes to needles. Yeah, I put it out there. Heck, the flu shot scares me! LOL But I'll be running a couple of dbol only cycles soon unless I can get some androgel even though I know it won't be very effective. I know I know...whatever!

Ugh...the thought of pinning and hitting nerve or something!!
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You should make a transdermal, androgel is gonna disappoint you mayne.
 
wilsmash4food said:
Hey, Arnold ran Dbol for 6 months at a time and right up to contest. I wish that after his political career ends he would wright a book about his usage. I would love to pick his brain about how they did it in the good ol' days.
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No one really knows what and how arnold ran except he ran Test E Dbol and Deca

Some people say he took 100mg of Dbol, some people say Dbol was 2mg back in the day so he took 20 or so of them...
 
Markusrulezzz said:
No one really knows what and how arnold ran except he ran Test E Dbol and Deca

Some people say he took 100mg of Dbol, some people say Dbol was 2mg back in the day so he took 20 or so of them...
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According to Arnold himself, he only took 3 dbol a day?! :261: Yeah, maybe if they were 50mg tabs? It's the breakfast of champions yo!
 
Im with Kanaka ( aloha brah ) I dont like needles and if when the time comes, ill have my wife do it. Other than that:
Legality
Quality issues
Availabilty
Expensive

Someday though, someday...
 
rulk22 said:
Im with Kanaka ( aloha brah ) I dont like needles and if when the time comes, ill have my wife do it. Other than that:
Legality
Quality issues
Availabilty
Expensive

Someday though, someday...
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Rulk, you from the islands? I'm originally from but now live on the westcoast. Yeah, I just can't pin! Heck, I can't even stand flu shots! LOL
 
kanakafarian said:
Rulk, you from the islands? I'm originally from but now live on the westcoast. Yeah, I just can't pin! Heck, I can't even stand flu shots! LOL
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Me niether bro. I hates the needles.

My mom is Philipino and my dad is welch/blackfoot, but lived in Hawaii for many years. They would go back to Hawaii all the time. Ive been there about 4 or 5 different times, ive got relatives on Oahu. I get all my ink done in Maui. Im on the west coast too.
 
rulk22 said:
Me niether bro. I hates the needles.

My mom is Philipino and my dad is welch/blackfoot, but lived in Hawaii for many years. They would go back to Hawaii all the time. Ive been there about 4 or 5 different times, ive got relatives on Oahu. I get all my ink done in Maui. Im on the west coast too.
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Yeah, aren't you just 2.5 hours north of me? Boy do I miss home! Especially since last night dipped into the 20's, and back home it's in the 80's as usual :sigh1:

I was down in Mexico last month though getting my surf on and it felt so good to be back in the water! I'm heading back down next month again to surf and pick up some...
 
jbryand101b said:
you guys gonna have a slumber party or what?
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lol

If you have any needle phobia... I did btw, start with injecting hCG with an insulin syringe in the abdomen. It is idiot proof and can't really f*** up with it lol. The needle is absolutely tiny, and ridiculously thin. It builds up your confidence to inject bigger and better things by a long shot.
 
Markusrulezzz said:
Are there any good reasons other than the NEEDLES !

I was so afraid of needles, my first time I was shaking, sweating and took me 20 mins, first 15 mins trying to toot nd boot it, make me feel stupid ohooo hhoo hooo ohooo hoo ! I closed my eyes and pinned that 1.5 up my bum and when I opened my eyes, I was like DAMN THAT WAS IT ??????? SO EASy !
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Just throwing my two cents in. The dudes in your avatar look gross. There is a point where too much muscle looks like obesity. Obese with muscle. Impaired movements. They look like two huge dudes that cant wipe there ass and can hardly move.
 
Aren't Illegal Steroids approved by the FDA for medical use?. I think that would make them a lot safer than these methylated legal "designer steroids.". Well of course your would have to get pharmaceutical grade....Plus they have been on the market for years and years and I'm sure there are studies to go along with that. Now with the legal DS products they are made in china in some dirty ass "lab" and you could never get Pharmaceutical grade legal DS products because of course they are not Pharmaceutical drugs!.
 
^--this logic is somewhat skewed.

there are studies on alot of designer drugs on the market. esp. superdrol. none as recent for drugs like test, or anavar, but they are there for those who want to look.
 
jbryand101b said:
^--this logic is somewhat skewed.

there are studies on alot of designer drugs on the market. esp. superdrol. none as recent for drugs like test, or anavar, but they are there for those who want to look.
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Agreed
 
T-Bone said:
Aren't Illegal Steroids approved by the FDA for medical use?. I think that would make them a lot safer than these methylated legal "designer steroids.". Well of course your would have to get pharmaceutical grade....Plus they have been on the market for years and years and I'm sure there are studies to go along with that. Now with the legal DS products they are made in china in some dirty ass "lab" and you could never get Pharmaceutical grade legal DS products because of course they are not Pharmaceutical drugs!.
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vioxx was fda approved

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it doesnt mean much to me when the FDA approves something.
 
i would inject, if my girl let me.. she is against all that ****.. she dont know i cycling coz its easy to take a pill and say its for joint support, but inject no way i could hide that from her..
 
grigs said:
i would inject, if my girl let me.. she is against all that ****.. she dont know i cycling coz its easy to take a pill and say its for joint support, but inject no way i could hide that from her..
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Tell her it's a new injectable glucosamine for your joints :biglaugh:
 
soontobbeast said:
why dont we define what 'real stuff' is?

is real stuff illegal stuff?

so lets pose the question : '' why do you use legal stuff when there is illegal stuff? ''

do we need to spell out the obvious answer(s) ?


you may as well ask '' why do you smoke cigarettes when you can smoke weed? ''
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WEED Kills Cigs any day.
Plus you do more damage to your body smoking Cigs, than smoking weed
:friday:
 
weed still makes me feel winded & out of breath. It also kills all goals/inhabitions. everyone may not agree, but constant use will cause paranoia. kinda turns people in to weirdos when they smoke bud everyday all day.
 
chocolatemilk said:
lol

If you have any needle phobia... I did btw, start with injecting hCG with an insulin syringe in the abdomen. It is idiot proof and can't really f*** up with it lol. The needle is absolutely tiny, and ridiculously thin. It builds up your confidence to inject bigger and better things by a long shot.
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I guess. I dont have any problems with needles. In plasma donations, we use a 17gauge needle.

stick that in your arm for 45min-1hr. ha ha ha.
 
S.K said:
WEED Kills Cigs any day.
Plus you do more damage to your body smoking Cigs, than smoking weed
:friday:
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actually marijuana has more carcinogens than tobacco
 
Vaporizer for me so I miss out on a lot of the carcinogens.

Although, I can't resist a good joint, blunt, or bowl once in a while.
 
bakerderek0 said:
weed still makes me feel winded & out of breath. It also kills all goals/inhabitions. everyone may not agree, but constant use will cause paranoia. kinda turns people in to weirdos when they smoke bud everyday all day.
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Yeah, not as much fun as it used to be.:sigh1:
 
Alwayssee333 said:
Just throwing my two cents in. The dudes in your avatar look gross. There is a point where too much muscle looks like obesity. Obese with muscle. Impaired movements. They look like two huge dudes that cant wipe there ass and can hardly move.
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The cumbersome look. It makes me feel clausterphobic just to think about being as big as Markus ruhl (330lbs ).
 
True that I recently went on cycle test e low does with dbol and tvol for 12 week it was my first cycle and got great gains bench went from 300 to 400 I weighed 215 I'm 511 ran dbol for only 3 weeks 40 mg a day and the tvol for 4 weeks test e all 12 I decided to get another cycle test e , deca , winstrol and dbol was gonna increase doses and become a Tru monster but when package came in the DEA raided my house and I got pinned wit 6 felonies and crazy lawer fees ect so I'm lookin into ph now shoulda looked into them before my advice is ordering juice on line is dangerous there is a small chance u will get busted but my third order I get flipped so only use them if u got a legit local source my bench is about 340 now I weigh 220 and lookingg for good pro hormones any good advice thanks bros.
 
agree and if your talking about shooting heroin then yes that hits you faster so is more addictive and thus potentially more harmful, but intramuscular injections are completely safer and STRAIGHT BETTER for longer cycles, on the live, and you can run 3-4 compounds unlike orals
schwellington said:
your logic makes no sense


method of delivery doesnt matter in my mind, what matters is damage done


orals are WAY worse for the body than the oils
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Because

Epi>var and winni in some instances.

Superdrol>pretty any other bulking oral that I can think of.

And then you can buy them on amazon :P Talk about accessability.

Having said that, Im not afraid to pin, and I will when I leave for college.
 
For most people its the fear of getting into legal trouble and fear of shooting horse p!ss into your bloodstream.
 
Lost my security clearance and was booted from Military cause of a little TEST. So yes there are reasons why people dont use them esp. military.
 
I got setup with some gear when I was about 24 by a dude I worked with in my gym. Worst mistake I ever made and def. saw how dangerous anything hormonal can be. PH provided me with some easily accessible things to put the knowledge I get from great sources like anabolic minds to work. I am a family man and although my body is my temple my family comes first so I will not be risking me being away from my family for shady roid sources.

Good question
 
cdup said:
I got setup with some gear when I was about 24 by a dude I worked with in my gym. Worst mistake I ever made and def. saw how dangerous anything hormonal can be. PH provided me with some easily accessible things to put the knowledge I get from great sources like anabolic minds to work. I am a family man and although my body is my temple my family comes first so I will not be risking me being away from my family for shady roid sources.

Good question
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Good ****ing point!
 
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