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Jason1000's Needtobuildmuscle Contest Log. NeedToBuildMuscle & MrSupp

Chest/Arm Workout

30 Min Lisss cardio

Bench Press-barx25,95x12,145x12,165x12,205x12
Incline Smith Machine Bench-50x12,70x10,110x10
Incline DB fly-10x15,25x10,40x15
Seated 1/2 curl-30x12,50x10,75x10
Machine Curls-50x12,75x8
Incline Seated Curl-20x12 3 sets
Nosecrushers-30x20,50x12,75x10
Overhead tri ext-30x12,55x11 dropset to 40x6 then 30x6
Reverse push-downs-50x10,75x12
 
Leg workout

30 Min Liss cardio

Front Squats-barx15,95x12,155x12
Leg Press-200x20,300x20,445x20
Leg ext-40x15 5 sets 50x15,60x15,70x15
1 arm romanian deadlift-20x12,40x12,60x12,80x12,100x12
Leg curl-30x12 4 sets
Standing calf raises on a smith machine-barx20,50x15,100x10 3 sets
 
Shoulder/Back workout

Smith machine shoulder press-barx15,30x10,50x10,75x10,100x8
DB Side lateral-10x15,20x12,30x12
DB front raise-10x12,20x12,30x20(strict form)
DB reverse fly-10x15,20x15,30x15
Wide Grip Pull-downs-100x15,150x10,180x12
Ez-curl rows-50x12,100x12,150x12,200x10(ok form)
Reverse Pull-down-100x15,150x10,190x10
Shrugs-225x10 3 sets

Felt the strongest I have in a while today! Bumped dosing up to 100 for this final week. My rear delts were awesome looking today, might post up a pic.

Btw, i'm gonna be going out tonight to a club most likely hanging with hooter girls. How many drinks is too many?! lol
 
The short answer is...1 drink is too many when running a methyl cycle. Will it kill you?...no, but its best to just keep your eye on the prize and your priorities in check;)
 
RickRock13 said:
The short answer is...1 drink is too many when running a methyl cycle. Will it kill you?...no, but its best to just keep your eye on the prize and your priorities in check;)
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Just saw this right now I had 4 vodka red bulls and danced with some hot girls and had a great time! My friend wants me to come out tonight again but yea I really gotta say focused.

Social life is so hard to maintain when killin it in the gym and kitchen:aargh:
 
jason1000 said:
Just saw this right now I had 4 vodka red bulls and danced with some hot girls and had a great time! My friend wants me to come out tonight again but yea I really gotta say focused.

Social life is so hard to maintain when killin it in the gym and kitchen:aargh:
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I agree its hard to do both:friday:
 
Chest/Arm Workout

Bench Press-barx25,95x12,145x12,195x10,225x10(+20lbs!)
Incline Smith Machine Bench-50x12,70x10,130x10
Flat DB fly-10x15,25x10,40x20
Seated 1/2 curl-30x12,50x10,90x10
Machine Curls-50x12,80x12
DB curls-30x15,40x10
Nosecrushers-30x20,50x12,90x10(+15lbs)
Overhead tri ext-30x12,40x15,40x13,40x11
Reverse push-downs-50x10,80x10

Popped some caffine and worked out with a friend today. Went crazy with the weights and got a crazy pump veins every where in my arms!
 
Leg workout

Front Squats-barx15,95x12,175x12(+20lbs!)
Leg Press-200x20,300x20,500x20(+55lbs)
Leg ext-3sets 50x15
smith machine stiff leg deadlift-50x12,100x12,150x12,240x10
Leg curl-30x12 4 sets
 
So I have barely been able to eat this week down at least 1000 cals less each day and am a little sick feeling. I kinda welcomed this anyway as I was feeling slightly bloated. The weird thing is I still put on another pound and a half and had the biggest strength gains in the last week.

Anyway today is my last day for my first cycle :(

Tommorrow I will post the gains I have made and new pics!
 
jason1000 said:
So I have barely been able to eat this week down at least 1000 cals less each day and am a little sick feeling. I kinda welcomed this anyway as I was feeling slightly bloated. The weird thing is I still put on another pound and a half and had the biggest strength gains in the last week.

Anyway today is my last day for my first cycle :(

Tommorrow I will post the gains I have made and new pics!
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Looking forward to them pics buddy!!
 
Shoulder/Back workout

Smith machine shoulder press-barx15,30x10,50x10,75x10,105x10
DB Side lateral-10x15,20x12,40x8 dropset to 20x10
DB front raise-10x12,20x12,40x10
DB reverse fly-10x15,20x15,40x10
Wide Grip Pull-downs-100x15,150x10,190x12
Ez-curl rows-50x12,100x12,150x12,200x12
Reverse Pull-down-100x15,150x10,200x12
Shrugs-225x12,245x12,265x12
 
Here is my gains from my first P-mag cycle.
Starting weight-170.5 lbs
End weight-193 lbs (22.5lb gain!)

Starting Arm-15
End Arm-16(1 in. gain)

Starting bench-225x1? (just a guess was doing incline press 150x5)
End bench-225x10
 

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jason1000 said:
Here is my gains from my first P-mag cycle.
Starting weight-170.5 lbs
End weight-193 lbs (22.5lb gain!)

Starting Arm-15
End Arm-16(1 in. gain)

Starting bench-225x1? (just a guess was doing incline press 150x5)
End bench-225x10
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22.5lb gain!?!? Those pics are going to be impressive!

Is that 16in cold/pumped and flexed/relaxed?

That's really good for a first cycle! Good strength too, how about squat or deadlift increases? Either way, well done!

Now the hard part, keeping those gains!
 
Milas said:
22.5lb gain!?!? Those pics are going to be impressive!

Is that 16in cold/pumped and flexed/relaxed?

That's really good for a first cycle! Good strength too, how about squat or deadlift increases? Either way, well done!

Now the hard part, keeping those gains!
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It is 16in cold and flexed in the morning.

Thanks man! My front squat increased from 105x12(just started training legs again lol) to 175x12 and no deadlifts though I prob could have increased my 1RM about 80-100 lbs.

I know man i'm kinda scared about that! I heard that it is good to increase the weight and volume so I think I might do 3x3 though it seems kinda weird.
 
Also keep calories and protein high.

What are you using for PCT?
 
Milas said:
Also keep calories and protein high.

What are you using for PCT?
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I was thinking eating at maintence levels and 250-300 grams of protien a day be good?

PCT-
Cycle Assist 4 caps a day
AIs Post Cycle Support 4 caps a day
Inhibit - E 2/2/1/1
11-oxo-150-300mg( would this be good to add for reduced cortisol or would it just delay recovery?)
 
To be honest, that PCT looks pretty bad.

Calories need to be a little above you NEW maintenance (you put on 22.5 lbs, you need more calories each day). 300g+ protein should be a good target (1.5g per lb minimum in PCT).

11-oxo is suppressive, although PA has said you can do a "bridge" to let your body start recovering naturally since it's less suppressive than other PH/DS. It does have the benefit of controlling cortisol and keeping strength/anabolism up. You can keep that in as a bridge if you want, but that's not the start of PCT then, you'd still be on cycle. It's not a bad idea, and gives you time to get a real PCT lined up, so may want to consider it at around 300mg for 2-3 weeks.

For PCT, I cannot recommend a SERM enough. It helps get the testosterone back faster which will help stave off catabolism. You have to understand you're producing little testosterone right now, so stopping exogenous hormones leaves you with very little to hold onto that muscle. PCT should get your testosterone levels back to normal ASAP to hold onto muscle. SERMs like Clomid do that very well.

Your PCT supplements are not good either. AI Post Cycle Support is an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI). Inhibit E is an AI. You are crushing your estrogen levels, which is not good for returning to homeostasis. ATD (Inhibit E) alone will really keep estrogen too low, which you don't want.



I recommend that given your situation you bridge with the 11-oxo at 300-450mg for 2-3 weeks and order a SERM now. Once they get in you'll be ready to start your real PCT. Keep calories high, remember maintenance is higher now with an extra 22lbs!

If you want to include an OTC test booster, start it at week 3 on the SERM. Something like HCGenerate from NTBM is a good addition, or Formastanozol, or both since HCGenerate is more a test booster while Formastanozol is an AI.

Keep hitting the gym hard, and keep eating hard. Best of luck keeping the gains!
 
Milas said:
To be honest, that PCT looks pretty bad.

Calories need to be a little above you NEW maintenance (you put on 22.5 lbs, you need more calories each day). 300g+ protein should be a good target (1.5g per lb minimum in PCT).

11-oxo is suppressive, although PA has said you can do a "bridge" to let your body start recovering naturally since it's less suppressive than other PH/DS. It does have the benefit of controlling cortisol and keeping strength/anabolism up. You can keep that in as a bridge if you want, but that's not the start of PCT then, you'd still be on cycle. It's not a bad idea, and gives you time to get a real PCT lined up, so may want to consider it at around 300mg for 2-3 weeks.

For PCT, I cannot recommend a SERM enough. It helps get the testosterone back faster which will help stave off catabolism. You have to understand you're producing little testosterone right now, so stopping exogenous hormones leaves you with very little to hold onto that muscle. PCT should get your testosterone levels back to normal ASAP to hold onto muscle. SERMs like Clomid do that very well.

Your PCT supplements are not good either. AI Post Cycle Support is an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI). Inhibit E is an AI. You are crushing your estrogen levels, which is not good for returning to homeostasis. ATD (Inhibit E) alone will really keep estrogen too low, which you don't want.



I recommend that given your situation you bridge with the 11-oxo at 300-450mg for 2-3 weeks and order a SERM now. Once they get in you'll be ready to start your real PCT. Keep calories high, remember maintenance is higher now with an extra 22lbs!

If you want to include an OTC test booster, start it at week 3 on the SERM. Something like HCGenerate from NTBM is a good addition, or Formastanozol, or both since HCGenerate is more a test booster while Formastanozol is an AI.

Keep hitting the gym hard, and keep eating hard. Best of luck keeping the gains!
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I didn't know they where both AI's thats weird. I read on a forum on here that otc pct is fine for P-mag and that was the recommended supplements. If I go the otc route would inhibit-e and a test booster like Bioforge good enough? Thanks man.

Also, any1 with OTC PCT advice would be helpful.
 
jason1000 said:
I didn't know they where both AI's thats weird. I read on a forum on here that otc pct is fine for P-mag and that was the recommended supplements. If I go the otc route would inhibit-e and a test booster like Bioforge good enough? Thanks man.

Also, any1 with OTC PCT advice would be helpful.
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HCGenerate and Formastanozol from NTBM would be a good alternative OTC.

You did a 6 week run of PMag? What was the dosing?

You shouldn't believe everything you read on the forums btw. Bad advice sometimes slips in there, you have to exercise good judgment.

PMag isn't too harsh, but still shuts you down and is a risk for losing gains.
 
jason1000 said:
Here is my gains from my first P-mag cycle.
Starting weight-170.5 lbs
End weight-193 lbs (22.5lb gain!)

Starting Arm-15
End Arm-16(1 in. gain)

Starting bench-225x1? (just a guess was doing incline press 150x5)
End bench-225x10
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WOW! That is ridiculous success to get 22.5 lbs from Pmag man. Very very nicely done! Keep at it bro..;)
 
Milas said:
HCGenerate and Formastanozol from NTBM would be a good alternative OTC.

You did a 6 week run of PMag? What was the dosing?

You shouldn't believe everything you read on the forums btw. Bad advice sometimes slips in there, you have to exercise good judgment.

PMag isn't too harsh, but still shuts you down and is a risk for losing gains.
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I did a 5 week 2 days run with dosing of 75,75,75,75,75. I know shouldn't beleive everything I read I did see it meantioned a lot though lol.

My next cycle which will be epi I def will use a serm.
 
Chest/Arm Workout

Bench Press-barx25,95x12,145x6,195x3,235x3(+10lbs)
Incline Smith Machine Bench-50x12,70x6,135x3
Flat DB fly-10x15,25x10,40x15
Seated 1/2 curl-30x12,50x10,92.5x3
Machine Curls-50x12,90x3
Incline DB curls-20x10, 30x8
Nosecrushers-30x20,50x12,95x3
Overhead tri ext-40x10 3 sets
Reverse push-downs-50x10,50x25 superset DB curls 20x25

I was so sick and achy today but I said f*ck it I need too lift! I am doing this to increase the strength of my CNS and giving my muscles a little less stress. Once I start up my epi cycle I will up the reps again.

Also, due to Milas advice I ordered a Serm and also some S4 to go along with it for PCT.
 
Hope you feel better soon, lots of fluids, vitamin C/D/E, zinc, glutamine, BCAA and echinacea. But sometimes it just needs to run its course! Best of luck keeping it up!

S4 is a bit more suppressive than the Ostarine SARMs. I'm not sure how much, I didn't research S4 enough, but I know it's more suppressive. However, the gains are better from what I hear. The only other side effect I've heard of is loss of night vision, so keep an eye out for that.

Glad you got the SERM, I think this will help your recovery greatly. Are you running the 11-oxo bridge?

When are you planning on running Epi?
 
Milas said:
Hope you feel better soon, lots of fluids, vitamin C/D/E, zinc, glutamine, BCAA and echinacea. But sometimes it just needs to run its course! Best of luck keeping it up!

S4 is a bit more suppressive than the Ostarine SARMs. I'm not sure how much, I didn't research S4 enough, but I know it's more suppressive. However, the gains are better from what I hear. The only other side effect I've heard of is loss of night vision, so keep an eye out for that.

Glad you got the SERM, I think this will help your recovery greatly. Are you running the 11-oxo bridge?

When are you planning on running Epi?
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Thanks man! I am really excited to see what S4 has to offer.. I heard it is very androgenic. No I don't think i'm gonna do the 11-oxo bridge I want to get to the epi asap.

I plan on running the epi in 3-4 weeks depending how recovered i'm feeling.
 
Just a word of caution for your health sake, you generally follow this rule:

time off = time on (5 weeks) + PCT (4-6 weeks) = 9-11 weeks


Less time means you're not recovering (lipids, liver, HPTA, CNS, etc.). 3 Cycles in a year is aggressive, you're taking your health into your hands here.

I know you think PMag and Epi are mild, but they add up. RPN had lawsuits from people using Havoc (epi) for 3 months (3 cycles) and getting liver disease, that's why RPN went out of business.

Make sure you know what you're doing. I gotta be honest, it doesn't seem like you are too experienced in PH/DS and shouldn't be attempting this. I don't think you've done adequate research or preparation (i.e., not having a SERM on hand).

You're going to do what you're going to do, but bear in mind the long term effects you may be getting from it. Very serious stuff that should be concerning. Left ventricle hypertrophy will weaken your heart permanently, and it's demonstrated to happen in steroid abusers. Livers recover, but heart/lipid values can cause permanent damage.

I call it like I see it, no hate against you, but it's not a good idea to start Epi in 4 weeks.
 
Milas said:
Just a word of caution for your health sake, you generally follow this rule:

time off = time on (5 weeks) + PCT (4-6 weeks) = 9-11 weeks


Less time means you're not recovering (lipids, liver, HPTA, CNS, etc.). 3 Cycles in a year is aggressive, you're taking your health into your hands here.

I know you think PMag and Epi are mild, but they add up. RPN had lawsuits from people using Havoc (epi) for 3 months (3 cycles) and getting liver disease, that's why RPN went out of business.

Make sure you know what you're doing. I gotta be honest, it doesn't seem like you are too experienced in PH/DS and shouldn't be attempting this. I don't think you've done adequate research or preparation (i.e., not having a SERM on hand).

You're going to do what you're going to do, but bear in mind the long term effects you may be getting from it. Very serious stuff that should be concerning. Left ventricle hypertrophy will weaken your heart permanently, and it's demonstrated to happen in steroid abusers. Livers recover, but heart/lipid values can cause permanent damage.

I call it like I see it, no hate against you, but it's not a good idea to start Epi in 4 weeks.
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Thanks for the concern man. I don't think I will get liver disease by doing this as I am young and used to drink a lot and had no problems(not saying I didn't do any damage).

Left ventricle hypertrophy will happen anyway if I take PH's. I feel that doing a lot of cardio would help counteract this.

After i'm done with epi I won't be taking anything for a long time.
 
Leg workout

Front Squats-barx15,95x5,145x5,185x3
Leg Press-200x20,300x20,500x10
Leg ext-70x10 3 sets
smith machine stiff leg deadlift-50x12,100x12,150x3,200x3,250x3
Leg curl-30x10 3 sets

30 min LISS cardio
 
jason1000 said:
Leg workout

Front Squats-barx15,95x5,145x5,185x3
Leg Press-200x20,300x20,500x10
Leg ext-70x10 3 sets
smith machine stiff leg deadlift-50x12,100x12,150x3,200x3,250x3
Leg curl-30x10 3 sets

30 min LISS cardio
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very solid numbers here
 
I have to agree man that you really need to take the right time off before running another cycle.

Your body needs time to recover in a lot of ways. Lipids, liver enzymes, HPTA, the list goes on...no need to f*ck yourself up over a contest bro...
 
jason1000 said:
Thanks for the concern man. I don't think I will get liver disease by doing this as I am young and used to drink a lot and had no problems(not saying I didn't do any damage).

NO

Left ventricle hypertrophy will happen anyway if I take PH's. I feel that doing a lot of cardio would help counteract this.

NO!!!

After i'm done with epi I won't be taking anything for a long time.

GOOD!
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Seriously, the side effects of steroids are no joke, and I don't think you fully understand them. Just because you drank heavily doesn't mean you're immune to methylate liver stress and jaundice, especially when you enjoy "a drink or two" on cycle. Left ventricle hypertrophy is not going to happen the same if you take steroids rsponsibly versus abuse steroids. Cardio will do NOTHING for left ventricle hypertrophy caused by steroids.

You'll basically be on a suppressive cycle > 12 weeks (PMag 5wks, S4, 3-4wks, Epi 4wks). If you're serious about doing it, I would get hcg. You will be shutdown, or near shutdown that entire period of time. There's risk of PERMANENT sexual dysfunction here.

But as everyone on bb.com knows, people will do whatever they damn well please. All I'm saying is think about it and research a bit more before you decide, not just what the bros and the boards say.

Don't fuck up your life over momentary gains, life is a marathon and not a sprint.
 
Milas said:
Seriously, the side effects of steroids are no joke, and I don't think you fully understand them. Just because you drank heavily doesn't mean you're immune to methylate liver stress and jaundice, especially when you enjoy "a drink or two" on cycle. Left ventricle hypertrophy is not going to happen the same if you take steroids rsponsibly versus abuse steroids. Cardio will do NOTHING for left ventricle hypertrophy caused by steroids.

You'll basically be on a suppressive cycle > 12 weeks (PMag 5wks, S4, 3-4wks, Epi 4wks). If you're serious about doing it, I would get hcg. You will be shutdown, or near shutdown that entire period of time. There's risk of PERMANENT sexual dysfunction here.

But as everyone on bb.com knows, people will do whatever they damn well please. All I'm saying is think about it and research a bit more before you decide, not just what the bros and the boards say.

Don't fuck up your life over momentary gains, life is a marathon and not a sprint.
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When should I start the hcg? asap? also what dosing and where do I inject it? Thanks for your knowledge man.
 
Shoulder/Back workout

Smith machine shoulder press-barx15,30x10,50x10,75x5,110x3
DB Side lateral-10x15,20x12,40x4
DB front raise-10x12,20x12,30x10
DB reverse fly-10x15,20x10,30x10
Wide Grip Pull-downs-100x15,150x10,200x3
Ez-curl rows-50x12,100x12,150x3,210x3
Reverse Pull-down-100x15,150x10,210x3
Shrugs-235x10,285x6
 
Cardio- 5 mins low intensity then
1 arm swings-5 reps each hand 25lbs
10 burpees
rest 60 secs repeat 4 more times then
25 min of low intensity cardio
 
jason1000 said:
Shoulder/Back workout

Smith machine shoulder press-barx15,30x10,50x10,75x5,110x3
DB Side lateral-10x15,20x12,40x4
DB front raise-10x12,20x12,30x10
DB reverse fly-10x15,20x10,30x10
Wide Grip Pull-downs-100x15,150x10,200x3
Ez-curl rows-50x12,100x12,150x3,210x3
Reverse Pull-down-100x15,150x10,210x3
Shrugs-235x10,285x6
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Looks like you could use a little more in your back routine. Try adding in some bent over BB rows, DB rows, or T bar rows. Will really add some size and width to your lats.

KTS!!
 
RickRock13 said:
Looks like you could use a little more in your back routine. Try adding in some bent over BB rows, DB rows, or T bar rows. Will really add some size and width to your lats.

KTS!!
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I always felt like my back was my strong point and I really need a bigger chest but your advice sounds good. I really feel the ez-curl rows good but yea I will add db row or t-bar rows(if i find a way to do them at my house).
 
Did a workout at my friends house today did a bunch of random stuff and got a good lift in.

Here are some highlights of the workout:

Db curls-45x8(each arm), 50x4(first time I did the 50's)
Db flys-50x10
Overhead tri ext-60x6
 
RickRock13 said:
Looks like you could use a little more in your back routine. Try adding in some bent over BB rows, DB rows, or T bar rows. Will really add some size and width to your lats.

KTS!!
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wide grip pull ups for the win!!!! along with a few of those.:mischievous:
 
Leg workout

Front Squats-barx15,95x5,145x5,195x3(+10lbs)
Leg Press-200x20,300x20,500x20,330x50
Leg ext-70x15 2 sets
smith machine stiff leg deadlift-50x12,100x12,150x3,200x3,260x3
Leg curl-40x10 2 sets
random calf work
 
jason1000 said:
Leg workout

Front Squats-barx15,95x5,145x5,195x3(+10lbs)
Leg Press-200x20,300x20,500x20,330x50
Leg ext-70x15 2 sets
smith machine stiff leg deadlift-50x12,100x12,150x3,200x3,260x3
Leg curl-40x10 2 sets
random calf work
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Nice leg workout bro. .
 
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