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Is This OK For Havoc PCT? PLEASE HELP ASAP

jhoney

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I am going to my first havoc cycle 10(first three days)/20/30/40 for the rest. I was planning on taking a serving inhibit-E during the cycle also, but i wasn't sure if that was needed.

PCT-
Cycle assist
milk thistle
inhibit e
zma
creatine
liver assist
 
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Have you done your research? This is NOT a PCT . . . . you got nothing to restore your natural test production.

Do your HW before you start your cycle. TONS of threads on Havoc/Epi PCT
 
What he said. And I don't think you need Inhibit E, since Havoc/Epi is non-aromatizing
Compound.
 
son of a bitch



say good bye to your testicles, say good by to getting a hard on, say good bye to interest in sex

epi is a steroid yes its legal, but its a steroid
 
jhoney said:
I am going to my first havoc cycle 10(first three days)/20/30/40 for the rest. I was planning on taking a serving inhibit-E during the cycle also, but i wasn't sure if that was needed.

PCT-
Cycle assist
milk thistle
inhibit e
zma
creatine
liver assist
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Cycle assist and should be taken DURING ON CYCLE...pre load milk thistle 2 weeks pre cycle. and your post cycle should be completely redone to say the least
 
If you don't want to use Nolva or Clomid then try a pulse cycle of Havoc and leave the inhibit-e for your PCT. I've tried a pulse cycle 3 times and never suffered any symptoms of shutdown and kept all of my gains, albeit I didn't gain as much as I would have on a normal cycle.
 
Id add NAC and Liver Juice for your liver. The Testosterone Recovery stack with TCF-1 is a great addition as well.
 
Read, read, read.

Educate yourself - this website is ideal for it.

And while we're at it - is it really time for you to use Havoc? Have you trained for several years, maintained your diet, and reached your natural peak?

I'm not saying that all PH users do this, because many probably don't - they just want a fast fix - but most should do as much as they can first before taking the PH plunge.
 
jhoney said:
if i bought the nac, liver juice, and test stack, would that be all i would need
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Use a SERM and a natural test booster like Post Cycle Support. I would use Nolva and the Post Cycle Support for a pct but I also suggest you do more research before messing with the steriods.
 
pembroke3355 said:
Use a SERM and a natural test booster like Post Cycle Support. I would use Nolva and the Post Cycle Support for a pct but I also suggest you do more research before messing with the steriods.
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I agree here....more research needs to be done. One should never dip into the hormonal realm until they have properly educated themselves.

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
Use a SERM. Use a testosterone booster. Use a cortisol blocker. Use something to sensitize the testes to LH.

The Invalid Link Removed has it all, except a SERM. The SERM is definitely the most important part, however.

I'm surprised the Mods haven't moved this thread already...
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Use a SERM. Use a testosterone booster. Use a cortisol blocker. Use something to sensitize the testes to LH.

The Invalid Link Removed has it all, except a SERM. The SERM is definitely the most important part, however.

I'm surprised the Mods haven't moved this thread already...
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Um actually, a SERM is not necessarily required if you are using the TRS. Honestly, the only time I would recommend a SERM is if your cycle is over 6 weeks. If your cycle is 4-6 weeks then the TRS is all you really need.

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
I am finishing up my 4th week of a 6 week Havoc cycle. My pct is set up to be Nolva, Recycle, Anabolic Pump, and a continuation of Liv.52, fish oil, and a joint supp.

You need a test booster in your pct and i would strongly recommend a serm. Do some research on here and all over the internet. Get everything ironed out before you start any cycle in order to be safe.
 
SamBoz19 said:
Um actually, a SERM is not necessarily required if you are using the TRS. Honestly, the only time I would recommend a SERM is if your cycle is over 6 weeks. If your cycle is 4-6 weeks then the TRS is all you really need.

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
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Good stuff right here. That stack is legit. I always suggest a SERM, but if you cant get your hands on one, this is the next best thing. I would just add PCT Assist along with the TRS
 
SamBoz19 said:
I agree here....more research needs to be done. One should never dip into the hormonal realm until they have properly educated themselves.

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
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I must have thought he was running PPlex for 6 weeks, my bad. The TRS will work for a 4 week epistane run. On these forums too much... losing my mind haha
 
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