CrazyChemist
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if you can afford it - sashimi and sushi. i eat a TON of that **** a week.
Here we go! Superdrol/Dermacrine Cycle Log with Before after pics
- Thread starter fatherenis
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if you can afford it - sashimi and sushi. i eat a TON of that **** a week.
crashcrash29
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I second this. I get sushi atleast 3 times a week. You can put alot of it down and its a great source for most of your protein for the day
fatherenis
Member
I think sushi's a great bodybuilding food too. You get your protein from the fish, carbs from the rice and good fats from the avocado
fatherenis
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By the way workout's been going great feeling really good. I'll give an update tomorrow. It's all out chest day I've just been slammed with work.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Definitely an awesome food
I used to eat a lot of sushi - need to get back into that :dot:fatherenis
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Up 5 LBS now.
Benched 205 today 8X on final set. Still no sides reall except a some testicular atrophy and carb cravings which are normal
Benched 205 today 8X on final set. Still no sides reall except a some testicular atrophy and carb cravings which are normal
CrazyChemist
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Definitely an awesome food
i just finished off a 2 orders tuna sashimi, 8 piece spicey tuna roll, a jalepeno philadelphia roll (wanted to try something new), a cilantro philadelphia roll (also new), a spicey tuna hand roll, and a color dragon (12 piece shrimp tempura surrounded with spicey tuna, rice, then tuna, avocado, crab, eel on top). Time for some casein and sleep.
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Hell yeah bro - keep kill it. you doing well.
fatherenis
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Did arms today. I'm feelin fantastic. Up 7 lbs now
fatherenis
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Still hovering up 7lbs I did back today. These are the last sets
Dumbell Pullovers - 65X 12
Pull ups - 8
Close grip pull downs - 135 X 8
1 arm dumbell rows - 65 x 8
Wide grip seated rows - 130 X 8
I have run into a slight problem at gym as I work out in my apartment complex. Overall the gym is great and has good equipment but the dumbells max at 65 so I'm screwed on some dumbell exercises like shrugs.
Dumbell Pullovers - 65X 12
Pull ups - 8
Close grip pull downs - 135 X 8
1 arm dumbell rows - 65 x 8
Wide grip seated rows - 130 X 8
I have run into a slight problem at gym as I work out in my apartment complex. Overall the gym is great and has good equipment but the dumbells max at 65 so I'm screwed on some dumbell exercises like shrugs.
crashcrash29
New member
Yeah brah thats def gonna be a problem. Might want to invest in some DB's or go pay the $30 a month at a gym with proper weights for lifting heavy
boricuarage
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CrazyChemist
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time to spring for a real gym
fatherenis
Member
I got an olympic bar here. It's really tough in NYC man gyms cost a fortune. What I'm gonna do is just use the bar on anything that I need over 65's for or use machines. I know it's not the ideal situation but sometimes you gotta work with what you have.
CrazyChemist
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i hear you - i lived in nyc for the first 18 years of my life, spent the last 8 in ct, now moving back to nyc in 6 months. I know its not cheap but of all the things u cld spend $$ on, a good gym isnt a bad financial investment. Just my opinion.
fatherenis
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PM me when u in town man
CrazyChemist
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will do - for sure.
crashcrash29
New member
Your really limited on what you can do. Get online and start finding the cheapest gyms. I know you have alot of hole in the wall places in NY that are cheap. You dont need anything high class or fancy or even with new equipment. You just need a proper amount of weights.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Or you could start adding to your home gym. Or start thinking outside the box when it comes to training and utilize different methods of training for results. Just a thought - training doesn't always have to be done in a gym or with weights to be effective.
~Rosie~
fatherenis
Member
Up 10 Lbs! My suits are getting super tight lol. This may be bad ha
fatherenis
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So my work is having a huge party next Friday with an open bar is it really dangerous if I drank while on superdrol? I obviously don't have to but they're doin karaokee which I've never done and am kinda worried about doing it fully sober? I don't wanna kill my liver though any advice? Or thoughts?
CrazyChemist
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Severe Hepatotoxicity Caused by a Methasteron-containing Performance-enhancing Supplement, Superdrol
Singh, Vandana MD; Rudraraju, Madhavi MD; Carey, Elizabeth J. MD; Byrne, Thomas J. MD; Vargas, Hugo E. MD; Williams, James E. MD; Balan, Vijayan MD; Douglas, David D. MD; Rakela, Jorge MD
Journal of Clinical Gastroenterology:
March 2009 - Volume 43 - Issue 3 - p 287
I can not post the pdf due to copyright but if you go to any library you can look up this ref or if you PM me I might be able to point you in the direction of the pdf. Bottomline, its your body and you can make your own decision but if you drink on superdrol you CAN quite possibly develop liver failure. I'd skip the party and say you have a cold. Those work functions are never really that great anyway IMO. LOL to the karaoke, that sounds like the worst party ever.
SolidusSnake
Member
Actually, whilst on superdrol, you really only want to be smashing weights and not doing anything cardio that may hinder strength and size gains.. Which is the only reason anyone should be using superdrol..
fatherenis
Member
Yo Crazy Chemist. Thanks for the advice man. I'm going to stick to not drinking. Screw the people from work. I kinda have to be there though as it is the end of the year bash but I can just drink water
CrazyChemist
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:friday:You know what ive done before bro - order a Heineken or some beer in a colored bottle, go to the bathroom and dump it, fill the bottle with water. Its sort of uncool that you have to hide not drinking like that but ive found at an open bar party if you do not have a drink then people are bothering you every 20 seconds to have a drink with them.
On a side note, some ppl mix up a powdered compound called phenibut that you can get from nutraplanet with water and drink that instead. At a dosage of about 6g it has a similar to alcohol effect. Its a little different and can last longer (like 36 hours) for some ppl so try it on a weekend if you want. Also, if you use it repeatedly (like for weeks straight) you can get a bad hangover that last for about a week, so use it no more than 1-2 times weekly. Besides being non-hepatotoxic, it is also calorie free.:friday:
EDIT: I should mention that its flavor is something of an acquired taste - might be a little funky at first.
ryansm
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Uhm I think you are missing Rosie's point
ryansm
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Good idea
fatherenis
Member
Couple Quick Questions. I'm going to bridge into the X-Tren I think and run it for 4 weeks. I'll keep taking cycle support as well as P5P and Vitex. Since X-Tren isn't methylated is it still hard on the liver or no?
BigBlackGuy
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:drillsergeant:
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Like Ryan said, you missed the point . . . And FYI, doing cardio does NOT hinder strength OR size gains if you're eating enough! . . .
~Rosie~
ryansm
Well-known member
I find it actually helps with gains, when utilized properly and following what you pointed out.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Absolutely! I have never had issues making gains if I want them, and I do more cardio just for Maintenance training than most people do for cutting! :drillsergeant:
~Rosie~
CrazyChemist
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You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Rosie Chee Scott again.
Strongly agree. The weights get me pumped but nothing gets my hunger up like a few miles on the treadmill or a few laps in the pool. 30 laps in a 50 meter and i can down two 10oz steaks and 6 eggs after my shake. Its actually kind of disgusting... lol.
with that avatar i bet you do. (sorry test got my libido up, lol)
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
And the more cardio you do, the more you can eat, even cutting, LOL - best of BOTH worlds CAN definitely be had! :mischievous:
AmericanJambo
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I agree. This is very smart information. Cardio will help keep you healthier over all and should be done when bulking, cutting, recomping or maintaining.
CrazyChemist
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Yes and if you you eat more clean food then you end up gaining muscle.
I wish I could find this study I read maybe 2 years ago..... essentially they concluded that burning 500 calories through exercise and eating, for example, 2500 calories in your diet had a HUGE benefit over just eating 2000 calories and skipping the workout on both fat loss and muscle gain.
Cardio accelerates fat loss thru increased BMR but it also goes so far beyond that too.
fatherenis
Member
I'm up to 5mls twice a day on dermacrine and 3ccs twice a day on the Superdrol (microdrol) sides arn't so bad. Yesterday I benched 210 8 times on chest day. Feelin really strong. I have some back pumps and pretty bad gas but other than that I'm not feelin bad. I have 9 days of superdrol left on the 3cc's twice a day dose so I should be done by next wednesday. Tryin to figure out what the best day is to start the tren bridge or if I should wait and do the tren in april with dermacrine as a cut type stack. Any ideas? I'm gonna be only 1 week into pct goin into florida if I do 4 weeks of the x-tren.
fatherenis
Member
That's kinda what I'm thinkin at this point though i'm not 100% sure. But I finish the superdrol in 9 days or so I'll still have at least another week of derma at that point. Should I stop the derma once I'm done with the super and start pct or should I run the derma until it's done then start PCT?
CaponeCEO
Active member
AI's are usually done during cycle and can be harmful as part of PCT. It depends on the aromatizing properties of the compound you are taking.
This was posted by Primordial Perf on 5/4/09
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/125140-definitive-guide-post.html
and here is an exerpt:
Over Use of Anti-Estrogens
Aromatase inhibitors (AI's) such as Arimidex, Aromasin, and Formestane are powerful tools for reducing estrogen conversion from heavily aromatizing drugs such as Testosterone or Dianabol. While these drugs are sometimes useful during cycle, these drugs are often counter-productive to use during PCT.
More specifically, it is a common misconception that estrogen will be elevated post cycle. Generally, estrogen is below a normal level after a cycle, especially if the cycle consisted primarily of non-aromatizing (non-estrogenic) AAS's or pro-hormones. Additionally, if one uses proper anti-estrogen's during a cycle with aromatizing AAS's then estrogen will not be elevated in this scenario either. Therefore, assuming proper AI's are used during cycle, I can only recommend an AI be used for PCT if hCG is also used.
Using AI's when they are not needed can lead to extremely low estrogen, which can cause the following side-effects -
Lower Sex Drive / Erectile dysfunction
Joint Pain
Lower HDL levels
Increased Risk of Heart Disease
Ultimately, this hurts your long and short term recovery and does not benefit you. Don't forget, normal levels of estrogen are necessary to support libido, muscle recovery, and testicular function.
Again this is the post of Primordial Perf, and not my own.
fatherenis
Member
I'm aware of the dangers of an AI in PCT that's why it's on hand if needed not necessarily as a staple of PCT.
CaponeCEO
Active member
It would be more beneficial to include in your cycle is what it says. Instead of keeping it on hand for later.
fatherenis
Member
Up 11 LBS now and my last day of Superdrol was today. I only have about 1 week left of the dermacrine
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
:thumbsup:
CrazyChemist
Well-known member
no need to include an AI during cycle unless estro-related sides are significant. if estro isnt unmanagable than an AI can affect gains.
CrazyChemist
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reps - kill this last week and go hard thru pct so u can keep it all.
ryansm
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It seems like everyone needs an AI on cycle in PCT these days. :sigh1: