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Forma-Stanzol how is it in comparison to other drugs Aromasin, Nolva, or Clomid

poopypants said:
You've got it completely backwards man. You drop estrogen to non existent levels.... In turn your body says hey I need more estrogen and since in the male body estrogen is produced by converting testosterone into estrogen via the aromatase enzyme you'll def want to block it off the bat.... So continue blocking estrogen as well as aromatase and in turn your body will continue to boost testosterone.....

The method you've suggested would essentially allow estrogen to run amuck without the testosterone needed to level out your body to its normal ratio.... Results? Dramatic decrease in strength and mass gains made on cycle, delayed estrogen reduction possibly making sides appear, emotional roller coaster from to much estrogen in a testosterone driven body..... Essentially I would totally ditch that idea and start your pct right away or even a week before you finish to have the chemicals flowing already and test boosting via estrogen suppression working for you right away.
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Damn man, you've been ghost for a while. I thought you had met some woman and dash off to some unknown country...lol
 
poopypants said:
What's up russian! Long time no see my man....been on hiatus for a bit but back and ready to make a comeback.

I a more poplar method that takes advantage of both a serm and an ai in pct was to titrate the doses lowering the serm dose across 4 weeks while increasing the si dose in order to avoid the serms estrogen rebound and maintain a more level estrogen post pct since most otc ai's are suicide inhibitors it takes time for your body to raise the level of aromatase enzymes back to normal physiological levels
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Agreed, I have ran 4 cycles in a few years and have always used this protocol with exceptional results back in the day. Seriously, blood works over 10 years beats out any other "theory" that can be mentioned, period.
 
hardknock said:
Agreed, I have ran 4 cycles in a few years and have always used this protocol with exceptional results back in the day. Seriously, blood works over 10 years beats out any other "theory" that can be mentioned, period.
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Yea I'm liking this titrating bit more and more.

I'm thinking of SERM for 1 week then start titrating SERM and Forma-stanzol in week 2 or maybe even 3 once everything is cleared (depending on the half life of compounds ran). With SERM lowering slowly and Forma-stanzol upping slowly. I'm liking a combination of poopy pants mentioned PCT and my idea more than just blasting an AI after 2 weeks. But I do like the idea of starting the titration 1 or 2 weeks into PCT depending on half lifes of the steroids.

Thanks poopy and hardknock.
 
hardknock said:
Damn man, you've been ghost for a while. I thought you had met some woman and dash off to some unknown country...lol
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Met a woman, yes, ran off to another country..... No.... Lol

Just been on hiatus for quite some time n with getting back into things I had to make sure I had the comradery of my pals here at AM.

Gonna most likely run a log here coming up, gotta a bit of recomping to do but luckily muscle memory will be on my side n got a nice comeback stack ready to help out..... I'll be getting started full tilt this next week.
 
chocolatemilk said:
Yea I'm liking this titrating bit more and more.

I'm thinking of SERM for 1 week then start titrating SERM and Forma-stanzol in week 2 or maybe even 3 once everything is cleared (depending on the half life of compounds ran). With SERM lowering slowly and Forma-stanzol upping slowly. I'm liking a combination of poopy pants mentioned PCT and my idea more than just blasting an AI after 2 weeks. But I do like the idea of starting the titration 1 or 2 weeks into PCT depending on half lifes of the steroids.

Thanks poopy and hardknock.
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Yes, it worked for me and poops used it. Cannot say that it is the end all be all.

I was looking forward to your method to see the outcome, lends itself to more research but I wouldn't ask someone to risk their body in the name of curiosity. If I ever get back into the "game", I may just test your original method...i have a personal endo now so I would have access to most if not all ancillaries.
 
chocolatemilk said:
MAN I cannot believe this thread slipped by me. There has been some big discussions about forma in the anabolics section and using it in PCT.

Needto... since testosterone goes up with estrogen in PCT, would it be ok to use a SERM for let's say two weeks, let estrogen come up and in turn testosterone come up with it, and THEN add the forma 2 weeks in to start chopping down high estrogen levels after you've reaped the benefit they provide in regards to the bump in testosterone?

Or use it off the bat in PCT?

What do you think?
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who the hell keeps saying estrogen is needed during pct???? WOW people will believe anything if you spin it good enough. LMFAO AND estrogen needed to make test just LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
hardknock said:
Agreed, I have ran 4 cycles in a few years and have always used this protocol with exceptional results back in the day. Seriously, blood works over 10 years beats out any other "theory" that can be mentioned, period.
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yes staying in the stone age beets advancement any day of the week. So correct.. :chairfall:
 
I haven't heard of a case where someone tried it for full blown gyno so wouldn't know but it has been used successfully to wade off estrogen related gyno from aromatizing steroids and to wade of progestin related gyno from progestin related steroids. It also enhances cycle nicely unlike other AI"s which worsen cycles sometimes.
 
the GUNSHOW said:
so would this help with gyno?
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it might, depends on your circumstances. i can say that when i run formestane i carry less fat in chest area. i know i can count on my chest looking more defined when i run form. after 5 years of messing with formestane, forma-stanzol is the best i have used.
 
Wouldn't use this to try and TREAT full blown gyno, but works very well to keep estrogen down on cycle.
 
SouthernCharm said:
Wouldn't use this to try and TREAT full blown gyno, but works very well to keep estrogen down on cycle.
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why not????


if it works at reducing chest fat why not give it a try? applying it to chest area along with nolva might show marked improvement, imo. and you wouldn't have the nasty sides that go with letro.
 
Well honestly IMO I would get full blown gyno checked out. That's just me though. Maybe not the best approach but if there was something like that happening in my body that's where I would stop self medicating.
 
Not saying it's not effective. It's not that at all. It sure as hell did the job when I ran dbol, with test as my base. It kept me from getting any estrogen related sides.. However I don't think I'm gyno prone, even being heavier set and if I were to get full blown gyno, It would just make me uneasy to treat it with X compound unless I saw someone who knew what they were doing.

Now if it came down to me not being able to find a specialist, or not having insurance, yes I would try it out. I mean if you don't have insurance and you need to have surgery, you're f**ked so if that were the case I would run the forma until I saw some improvement, then taper my dose down to come off. Definitely not as harsh as the prescription grade CANCER medications out there (adex, etc)
 
SouthernCharm said:
Not saying it's not effective. It's not that at all. It sure as hell did the job when I ran dbol, with test as my base. It kept me from getting any estrogen related sides.. However I don't think I'm gyno prone, even being heavier set and if I were to get full blown gyno, It would just make me uneasy to treat it with X compound unless I saw someone who knew what they were doing.

Now if it came down to me not being able to find a specialist, or not having insurance, yes I would try it out. I mean if you don't have insurance and you need to have surgery, you're f**ked so if that were the case I would run the forma until I saw some improvement, then taper my dose down to come off. Definitely not as harsh as the prescription grade CANCER medications out there (adex, etc)
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this is just my opinion, but i don't think 'most' doc's are going are going to do much as far as prescribing meds for gyno-from what i hear from reading forums is they recommend the knife, if they do opt for meds the dosage is usually to weak to amount to much. i know there are exceptions, and some docs are up to date-but from what i have read, most aren't.

in my personal experience, since starting trt- i have been teaching my doc about it. he prescribed test cyp at 400mg every 2 weeks-i told him 200mg weekly is what guys seem to do best at. he did more research and told me he agreed. so now i inject 200mg weekly, lol.
 
so im finally using my formastanz.

it 9 pumps is too much for me. atd like estrogen destroying power.....BUT... i dont have that atd libido killing feel.

I feel great on it, just makes my joints hurt. I think i'll stick with 6 bromo. good stuff if removing estrogen is your goal, me, i just want to control/minimize it, not destroy it.
 
jbryand101b said:
so im finally using my formastanz.

it 9 pumps is too much for me. atd like estrogen destroying power.....BUT... i dont have that atd libido killing feel.

I feel great on it, just makes my joints hurt. I think i'll stick with 6 bromo. good stuff if removing estrogen is your goal, me, i just want to control/minimize it, not destroy it.
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geezus-just lower the dose. form has way more bb benefits than atd or 6-bromo.
 
thebigt said:
geezus-just lower the dose. form has way more bb benefits than atd or 6-bromo.
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x 2... bromo is good but nowhere near as anabolic as forma

BigT, we need your picture for our bottle of Forma LMAO
 
SouthernCharm said:
x 2... bromo is good but nowhere near as anabolic as forma

BigT, we need your picture for our bottle of Forma LMAO
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gladly-it's a product you should be very proud of.



i have spent a lot of time researching formestane and the benefits are tremendous-and of all the formestane products i have tried, FORMASTANZOL IS THE BEST.
 
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