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winstrol and dermacrine?

alright then after my cycle i will make a topic showing before and after pics just to show how it worked out. i will be running low dosages of winstrol because its my first steroid and im only 160 lbs for god sakes and also be using 1-T Liqua-Vade (8.2 fl oz) By: Primordial Performance.
 
5'11" and 165lbs?

while this would be a very mild cycle, I'd truly recommend building naturally for a while first.
 
delsolrob said:
5'11" and 165lbs?

while this would be a very mild cycle, I'd truly recommend building naturally for a while first.
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^^^Agreed. You can do a LOT with the right NUTRITION AND TRAINING first.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
 
Dont know a thing about you bro, but give yourself time. I rushed things when I was 18 and boy do I regret it. Now I am almost 30 and bigger and stronger than I ever was on juice. It does suck to see other people that are bigger or stronger, but that is life. I do have a friend that started out around 120 and after 3 years of serious and dedicated training has probably reached his potential though.
 
it seems i get stronger and i hypertrophy quite a bit if i can stay in the gym. but alot times my life gets crazy and i wind up having to do a crap load of calisthenics for a month or 2. i didnt just start training i know a decent amount in the fitness area. im gonna wind up running this anyways on acount of i already have everything on the way.(pct as well with cycle assist).
 
why dont you run d bol instead of winny?? You need to gain some weight, also get 2 bottle of the 1-T, and run it 6wks too. Slow up the dosage threw the cycle to keep gains from stopping. Start with 4 pumps, go to 5, than 6, 7.
 
He looks a lot heavier than 165 in his pic at 5'11"..
You also have to take in account BF% and body frame..

I believe he has a solid base to run AAS if that pic is accurate.
Also, why not a dbol/winnie 6 week cycle?
Mass, strength and no bloat.
You could add the derma in as well!
 
delsolrob said:
5'11" and 165lbs?

while this would be a very mild cycle, I'd truly recommend building naturally for a while first.
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Agreed, I am your height and waited til I was 210 naturally to do anything hormonal, and honestly I could have waited longer because my nutrition and training were not yet optimized. If bulking up is your goal then 1-t and dermacrine will be great, I used the same in college and hit some big numbers in size and strength, got a pr on box squat of 540 during the cycle. Good luck bro.
 
my pic is a little old and taken when i was doing nothing but weighted pull ups, dips, pushups, crunches. and stuff like that. im weight training for 6 months str8 now and things are moving along good. whats done is done tho, the money is spent and the boxes are shipped im just anxiously waiting now. like i said. as soons as i get every thing here i will post an up to date pic and six weeks from then an after pic.
 
that would be a heck of stack to cut on....
 
JCunningham said:
He looks a lot heavier than 165 in his pic at 5'11"..
You also have to take in account BF% and body frame..

I believe he has a solid base to run AAS if that pic is accurate.
Also, why not a dbol/winnie 6 week cycle?
Mass, strength and no bloat.
You could add the derma in as well!
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i do look alot heavier than i actually weigh, ive always thought i should be examined by scientist. last time i checked my max bench it was 310. not major but for my weight id say its pretty good.
 
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when i first started this i was at 160lbs.
this was only a 4 week cycle and it bumped me up to 173

i changed from a 6 week to a 4 because i felt i need to up the dosage of the winny. over all it was great for strength!!

no sides.
broke out a little bit and also the last three days my stomach was torn up.

my libido was lower than normal during the last week but always woke up with an erection.

recovery felt like it should of been better even takin in 200 grams of protein daily.

no hair loss.
no roid rage.

this was a good little first cycle for me i think.

shut down seems minor and PCT is going nolva 20/20/20
runnin erase all the way through pct and will add titanium that the third week.

this was more of a learning experiance and a chance for me to feel my body out a little bit more for future AAS use. i wont be running another cycle for a good while but when i do im thinking of a Test/winn/dbol.

it feels as if these gains are gonna be easy to keep as well since i didnt dramatically jump up in weight and size.
 
You have a good base IMO. A little underweight but a good base nonetheless. If you are of age I don't see why not try the winny, derma cycle.

And if you can push 310 on bench press at 165 lbs, that is about what half of the top 100 performances by 165 lb power lifters could bench.

You should look into power lifting if your squat and dead lift are unusually high as well.
 
chocolatemilk said:
You have a good base IMO. A little underweight but a good base nonetheless. If you are of age I don't see why not try the winny, derma cycle.

And if you can push 310 on bench press at 165 lbs, that is about what half of the top 100 performances by 165 lb power lifters could bench.

You should look into power lifting if your squat and dead lift are unusually high as well.
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i use to max at 310 when i was hitting weights alot more.

now that im getting back into it my max is around 265. and my squats sadly are not as strong.

if you read the post you can see that i already ran the mini cycle for only 4 weeks. i know some of you more exp guys may say it was a waste but i did jump up a good amount of strength and gained a solid 10 lbs. with virtually no side affects and a minor shut down.
 
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