interactions of stacking SuperDrol and Anadrol?

YUPP! and its a huge hassle to photo shop the face and all that crap
 
a huge hassle to photoshop your face? lmao i've posted dozens of pictures here. You crop out your face. It takes like 5 seconds. You guys are just being pu$sies about pictures! But that's ok, everybody on this forum is a pu$sy about posting their pictures.
 
loll, im just ****in lazy but yah sure ill try and post some up at end in 2 months
 
i just dont like ebign on pics either its just a perosnal thing, like out of all my ex gf i have only one pic where i am in, it was during a model shooting. its not ***** thing, just a preference thing ill try to find a pic from a few weeks back i belive there is one on my laptop ill try to find it and throw it up
 
plus alot of ppl know me/ might recognize me based on clothing i wear in gym
 
ok pic send unreal
 
yupp i know
 
Jasen said:
there is a side note i forgot to add. TREN does help heal tendons etc etc. i had very bad athristis and shoulder pain, arthirstis is doing alot better and my shoulder has no pain at all! so it does has some collagen healing properties, i assume now all 19nor do.
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Um, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there, strongly. I am on tren right now as you know, and it has dried the **** out of my joints, my forearm splints have come back with a vengeance. I have had to do emergency joint maintenance protocol to be able to continue to lift.

also, i remember back when i ran x-tren for the first time, it dried the hell out of my joints too, same as tren, not quite as bad though.

that leaves deca. so yeah.... deca is the only 19-nor known to help joints
 
tren-e helped me, the science is there besides tren increase igf-1 therefore it dose help collagen etc etc. winnie dries out alot too, but i seen articles claiming winnie increase collagen as well.
 
everyone is diff, i seen ppl get no joint help with deca
 
GnastyMcNasty said:
Um, I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there, strongly. I am on tren right now as you know, and it has dried the **** out of my joints, my forearm splints have come back with a vengeance. I have had to do emergency joint maintenance protocol to be able to continue to lift.

also, i remember back when i ran x-tren for the first time, it dried the hell out of my joints too, same as tren, not quite as bad though.

that leaves deca. so yeah.... deca is the only 19-nor known to help joints
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Forearm splints, that sounds like what I have, thanks to Natadrol. Would you mind sharing your emergency joint maintenance protocol? I'm dying over here...
 
Jasen said:
everyone is diff, i seen ppl get no joint help with deca
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yeah... everyone is different, thats for sure. because tren dried me out like a mother****er lol. no joint/collagen aid goin on at ALL. guess each person has to try each compound and see for themselves... i just wanted to post up my experience so someone running tren for the first time wouldnt read this thread and think, oh, hey tren helps joints!! and then go for a PR and injure themselves.

hey btw i know ur on prami... u think that maybe helped with ur joints being as how its supposed to increase GH a bunch??
 
glucosomine-chondorin-msm. / alot of fishoil 10+g works wonders
 
well prami ehh hard to really explain it its odd

sleep is **** cuz of tren 4-5hrs a night but i feel rested when i wake up cuz of prami. no gyno thats all i can say. tren kills ur sleep prami makes up for it. .5 ml a night. dont knwo what else to say about prami. loll
 
honestly i love sleeping 4-5hrs, i get more time to be awake and do things plus i get a extra meal in
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Forearm splints, that sounds like what I have, thanks to Natadrol. Would you mind sharing your emergency joint maintenance protocol? I'm dying over here...
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well itd be even more comprehensive if i had the $$, but its animal flex, evening primrose oil (this helps actually, surprised me), and then this other joint supp i got at walgreens called "joint support" with like some weird herbs in it. i'd say animal flex should cover all ur basics though..

also i remember reading on another thread about this drug called alflutop, its supposed to help joints alot, its rx only though, i may check it out one day myself
 
Jasen said:
honestly i love sleeping 4-5hrs, i get more time to be awake and do things plus i get a extra meal in
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ugh **** sleeping 4-5 hours, i want all the sleep i can get. fortunately, though, tren hasnt affected my sleep really at all, i take rx sleep meds though
 
alflutop is inkectable glucosomine i belive.

but the best thing imo is glu/cho/msm and fishoil 10+g.

LOOK, i have arthritis and its bad. and 11,000mg of fishoil dose wonders especially on cycle for HDL/JOINT and many other things. but ever since i used tren i also noticed the pain in my fingers from arthritis going away and being lesser now by a huge extend
 
i love the low amount of sleep
 
im 221 now at 10.5% last time i checked on my machien thing so probably 10-11%
 
ALFLUTOP®, conditioned as injectable solution, contains in 1 ml solution 10 mg bioactive concentrate (amino acids, low molecular mass peptides, mucopolysaccharides, trace elements: Na, K, Ca, Mg, Fe, Cu, Zn), maximum 5 mg/ml phenol as preservative.

ALFLUTOP® belongs to the group of chondroprotective products having anti-hyaluronidase, antiinflammatory and analgesic action:


inhibits hyaluronidase excess;
restores chondrocytes homeostasis in damaged tissues;
stimulates regenerative processes at cartilage level;
improves the synovial fluid and the afflicted cartilage quality;
stimulates superoxide dismutase;
inhibits occurrence of superoxide free radicals.
The clinical trials have proved the efficacy of the product ALFLUTOP® in degenerative articular rheumatism, post-traumatic pathology and abarticular rheumatism.

Advantages:

lack of major complications;
very well tolerated, even by the patients suffering from gastrointestinal, cardiovascular and metabolic diseases;
a favourable ratio of costs and clinical efficacy.
The clinical trials have also showed the therapeutical effect of ALFLUTOP® in the treatment of periarthritis, spondiloarthrosis, spinal disc injuries, ankylopoietic spondilitis, Reiter syndrome, rheumatoid polyarthritis

Therapy is for 21 days shot IM and can have the same results as Deca without the side effects...will tolerate a slin pin
 
i def agree about the high dose fish oil... i take at least 12 g a day.. just forgot about it....


and jasen u r one of the few people i have met who love lack of sleep... craziness
 
dude picture this, u have instead of 24hours a day u have 28 hours a day. thats all.

i sleep 4-5hours but i feel GREAT!

whats so negative it's great like cumming. i feel like cumming before bed when i take my casein. i feel like cumming when i have my tren sweats, i feel like cumming when i am up before the sun, its fantastic! im cumming all night!
 
if you get that much sleep for a long enough period your REM time will adjust to accompany for the shorter sleep time. You will have longer, more intense dreams. However, you will miss the other stages of sleep which are believed to be more body rebuilding stages opposed to REM as a mental recycling stage.

I know some people who function on that much sleep. Anyone can if they sleep like that for a long enough period of time.
 
im sure tren dose all the rebuidling i need :)
 
6-7 hours of sleep is perfect for me. I think more is detrimental, it just makes me more tired. And like Jasen said, more sleep is less time to get the meals in.

That sucks to hear about all the joint problems. I'm good so far (knock on wood).
 
10 hours daily sleep for me.. i have no life... i do wake up and eat at least once or night.. usually before i get into too deep of a sleep
 
Jasen said:
im 221 now at 10.5% last time i checked on my machien thing so probably 10-11%
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U seem like a knowledgeable guy, is this a joke or do you really use those bull**** hand held BF devices? The only true way is with calipers and someone who knows how to do it. Have one of the trainers at the gym do it there pretty accurate +/- 1%.
 
joeymutz said:
U seem like a knowledgeable guy, is this a joke or do you really use those bull**** hand held BF devices? The only true way is with calipers and someone who knows how to do it. Have one of the trainers at the gym do it there pretty accurate +/- 1%.
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why do you say they are bull shiit? im just curious if you know.

and if calipers aren't used by someone who has been properly trained on how to use them, they will be highly inaccurate also.

the personal trainer at your local gym most likely isn't properly trained btw.


find a dunk tank, or a dexa machine. these are the only two ways to get a semi close accurate reading, with the dexa maching being 99% accurate.
 
jbryand101b said:
why do you say they are bull shiit? im just curious if you know.

and if calipers aren't used by someone who has been properly trained on how to use them, they will be highly inaccurate also.

the personal trainer at your local gym most likely isn't properly trained btw.
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There bull**** because they don't work I've messed with them before and saw all different results for my BF in 10 min. I've used hand held's and scales. Any knowledgeable person that knows about measuring bf will tell you the same thing. you need someone who knows what there doing to caliper test you that's all. He may be less than 10.5% but even someone who is properly trained can be 1% off. Just trying to give him the best advice on how to get a true BF measurement. Hope that helps.

I stated in my post that someone that knows how to do it should measure him with the calipers I should have been more descriptive. Someone who has been properly trained should measure your BF% with calipers.
 
Well accurate bf i don't care about. If i can get a rough estimate im happy. I can see abs at 221 lbs and machine which isNOT a handheld one is saying 10% well ill trust it.
 
Most ppl who use calipers r dumb and **** up
 
Jasen said:
Most ppl who use calipers r dumb and **** up
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This is true people really do need to be properly trained on how to use them. if your happy with your BF machine then that's all that matters. I was just stating what is most accurate. If you can see your top 2 abs that's great. once you hit single digits you should start to see all of them. Eventually you can pretty much just look in the mirror and know what your BF% is. I had a couple people i worked out with that were amateur bodybuilders and its crazy seeing them go from 9%-3%. Huge difference once you get that low. Not healthy to stay that low though. I think 8-15% is the healthiest levels to be at.
 
i think 15% is obese! loll

yah i can see abs so machien cant be too far of.
I HATE BODPOD!
but if i ever compete ill go for the gold standard! water testing
 
at 10% all of your abs should be clearly defined IMO. Under 10% is not just having abs but having them looking shredded and having lots of definition/striations.

11-12% is where i've been hovering where I can see my abs but it's just an outline obscured by fat
 
I have seen dudes.with 8% barley abs showing i.guess it also depends how much water and loose skine ur showing
 
Jasen said:
I have seen dudes.with 8% barley abs showing i.guess it also depends how much water and loose skine ur showing
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i would not trust any BF test that says someone is 8% if their abs are barely showing. 8% abs should be showing and should also be looking HARD and tight.
 
Depends. See i don't train abs at all especially since i tore my acl. If i did like everyday im sure they would look real nice. I have seen fat dudes.with.big.abs too
 
I need to see a picture of this. It should not be possible at all to be at 8% bodyfat and have your abs buried under fat. That's just completely retarded. Am i supposed to believe that all the fat on this guy's body is on his abs? i can't get myself to believe it.

I wish more people would post pictures so we'd have more examples of different levels of bodyfat. I've seen people post logs and I see their stats and their starting pictures and they are eyeballing their bodyfat very poorly, usually saying it's 2-3% lower than it actually is.

I don't even trust the impulse test, or calipers, I've seen them all give retarded readings. A pictures is a thousand words.

Sorry i'm getting off on a ramble Jasen.
 
Its cool bro. But yah im a week ill try trainin abs again. Im 11%now i can do uphill walks only that cause.minimum pain so imm start that tomorrow 3x a week 45min hr120-130
 
I hope in remaining 6week i can drop another 2-3% and maybe add 5-7lbs
 
Part of me is kinda scared and excited to get blood done in 5 weeks
 
UNLEASHHHHHHHHH THE HALOTESTINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
 
yeah lmfao it just came to my mind a few weeks ago on another dudes thread so i was like hmmmmmm ill just type it down, something about his wife not letting him juice or somethign like that. UNLEASH THE KRAKEN!
 
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