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GOT MY TREN :) ~ found crystlas inside :(. help

Jasen said:
his test never gave me pain. dosnet tren in general cause more pain like winnie and primo
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Not if it's Enanthate. I'm assuming it's Enanthate if it's 250mg/ml. That would be a REALLY high concentration for Acetate. Acetate at 100mg/ml never gave me much pain either. In my experience Test Acetate at the same concentration was much more painful than Tren Acetate.
 
Libertarian said:
I'm mainly speaking on personal experience, but many others seem to have similar experiences.

With my homebrews I would try to get by with the least amount of solvents possible. The commonly used solvents have very low toxicity, but I figured the less the better health wise. When I did this, my injection sites would begin to get very painful sometime the next day. Some fellow homebrewers told me it was probably crashing in the muscle. Later I started to use more solvents than what was barely necessary to dissolve the compounds. For example, if 15% BB was just enough to dissolve the powder at room temp, I'd bump it up to 20-25%. Once I started doing this the injection pain was reduced greatly.

I guess one possibility is that the solvents might have a local analgesic effect. I know for sure some do, but, I can't imagine it being that significant.

Also, I just want to point out that bumping up the BB isn't the only option. There are various other solvents that can be used and sometimes a certain combination of solvents work better than just increasing the overall amount of solvents in the solution.
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Very interesting. I can't imagine it's too painful? i would be shooting it up anyways. I didn't think it would crash out in muscle but something is definitely going on there.

Libertarian said:
Not if it's Enanthate. I'm assuming it's Enanthate if it's 250mg/ml. That would be a REALLY high concentration for Acetate. Acetate at 100mg/ml never gave me much pain either. In my experience Test Acetate at the same concentration was much more painful than Tren Acetate.
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That would be a funny explanation for this thread, is if it's tren ace brewed at enanthate concentration, lol.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Very interesting. I can't imagine it's too painful? i would be shooting it up anyways. I didn't think it would crash out in muscle but something is definitely going on there.
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For me it was. It was also a different type of pain than I got from Test Prop. Prop was more of a burning pain that sometimes began hurting almost immediately. I remember one time I injected Prop in my quad and felt burning almost instantly down to my knee. Or maybe I'm just a wuss when it comes to injections. Some people hardly seem bothered no matter what they're injecting, even if it's Prop or really high concentrations. For example, I got a hold of some 200mg/ml Test Ace once that crippled me, while a buddy of mine swore it was painless.
 
hmm yeah mine is tren-e
 
and that burning in the knee feeling, i get that too sometimes, dosent really bother me since i already have athirtis.... so im used to joint pians
 
so i went, and he offered my a new fresh bottle :) . this one had significant less crystals in it :) . also what temp should tren be stored in? room? dark cold?
 
ill still pre-heat id a little and inject around in 30min
 
ok i injected it went by nice, i had a long write up but my thing f'd up so ill just sum it up this time
- warmed it up in sink hot water for a min
- injection was harder then test to push in
- also should i keep this tren in a warmer place? last places i put it was in a wooden box behind a pic in a cupboard COOLEST places i have in the room. maybe too cold for tren? since it crystallized alot in 2 days where i previously put it.
- no tren cough, and tomorrow we will see if it will re-crystal
 
in a way im just paranoid that im killing the tren by heating it up. though im sure sink water fora min wont kill it
 
heating your tren up isn't going to kill it dude. It's not gonna thermally decompose at any temperature you can get it to easily.

if you're worried about it crashing try to store it in a warmer place rather than a colder one. But i don't think it's a huge deal either.
 
yah thought soo too about the heat water.

BUT im sure tren needs to stored in a warmer place, my last place was too cool and it crystalized my tren 2-3x more. tren is weird....... btu yah i will store it just on top of my desk from now on
 
Jasen said:
yah thought soo too about the heat water.

BUT im sure tren needs to stored in a warmer place, my last place was too cool and it crystalized my tren 2-3x more. tren is weird....... btu yah i will store it just on top of my desk from now on
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havent read the whole thread, so forgive me, but have u tried baking it in the oven yet? 250 degrees for periods of ~15 minutes should get it back into solution without damaging the compound
 
bakin 15min, sink 1min..... loll sink seems faster. it worked real ncie too i was shocked, the liquid went reallll smooth once i was shaking the vial.
 
UnrealMachine said:
heating your tren up isn't going to kill it dude. It's not gonna thermally decompose at any temperature you can get it to easily.
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I would strongly disagree with this. I think Tren can very easily be damaged by heat. To what degree is debatable (I'm not saying you can easily destroy it completely), but there is a reason why Fina pellets are often shipped on ice and instructions say to keep refrigerated.
 
i read that tren's melt point is 180c.
 
if its melting point is qucik..... then why do ppl heat in? when it crystalizes
 
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT!

besides using sink water heat im sure is nto hot enough to kill tren. if my hands can easily take it so can tren
 
not really im just saying that holding the vial under warm water for a min is not gonna damage the tren, it cant be that weak
 
No, you're right, that would be fine. Even bringing it to boiling temp for a short amount of time shouldn't hurt it. Anything beyond that I wouldn't do personally. You are likely to cause oxidation if you heat it too much. In most cases, even if you cause some oxidation, it still shouldn't hurt the potency of the compound in a noticeable way. Some guys are running Tren that's so oxidized from being baked that it's basically brown and they still get results. I personally just try my best to not cause any oxidization because Tren is so expensive and I don't want to risk wasting my money.

BTW, how did your source explain the crystals?
 
he said that's how it usually happens which is kinda true since many ppl get crashed tren. he said boil it or shake it. but he knows me for over 3 years so he gave me a new vial. that supposedly he was gonna sell to another dude later that day :) but yeah so far its all good i inject only a small amount today to see how i react/ and if any infection will come. everytime i inject from a new vial i only do a tiny amount to test out sterile and how i react to it then next time i will inject full 250mg/ 1ml
 
Libertarian said:
Are you implying that the melting point is where damage occurs? I'd have to disagree.
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We're talking about warm water here. I'm not a homebrewing expert but I know gear does get baked at temperatures where water isn't even liquid. I am just sayin' to Jasen that he doesn't need to worry about warm water ruining his tren.
 
how long before tren-e kick in 2-3weeks?
 
Jasen said:
how long before tren-e kick in 2-3weeks?
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same as test E. but it's so strong you'll probably start feeling it in the 3rd week. But I believe the ester is still building until some time around the 4th to 5th week.
 
SHIIT! reallY? ok that sucks big time....... long wait..good thing i got a bottle of superdrol :)
 
UnrealMachine said:
We're talking about warm water here. I'm not a homebrewing expert but I know gear does get baked at temperatures where water isn't even liquid. I am just sayin' to Jasen that he doesn't need to worry about warm water ruining his tren.
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Agreed, like I said, warm water won't do anything. I was just pointing out that while the melting point is over 200F, that doesn't mean you won't cause any oxidization at that point or even before. All over the internet people are saying you can bake Tren 250-350F for 45-60 min or more and it won't do anything to the compound (I've personally even seen oxidation occur at ~170-180F). Yet, nobody ever wonders why Fina pellets are supposed to be shipped on ice and stored in the refrigerator or freezer. Not surprising, I guess, considering there is probably more misinformation out there about Tren than any other steroid.
 
is ti complicated to create tren from fina pellets?
 
would u say its complicated?
 
hmmmm this is becoming one interesting thread. i never knew tren can be so complicated
 
Jasen said:
hmmmm this is becoming one interesting thread. i never knew tren can be so complicated
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It's not complicated, just misunderstood. :)

Like I said, there is a LOT of bad info out there about Tren. Not just about proper handling/brewing, but side effects as well. I think it has an undeserved negative reputation. Sometimes it seems almost like people purposefully put out false info to keep people from using this amazing nectar of the gods. The sides can be harsh, but there are ways around that.
 
nectar of gods ? lmfao i hear that soo much i really hope the 500mg/week hits me good
 
no pain today, no re-crystallization
 
Libertarian said:
It's not complicated, just misunderstood. :)

Like I said, there is a LOT of bad info out there about Tren. Not just about proper handling/brewing, but side effects as well. I think it has an undeserved negative reputation. Sometimes it seems almost like people purposefully put out false info to keep people from using this amazing nectar of the gods. The sides can be harsh, but there are ways around that.
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Im gonna side with this Ive been using Tren ace for liek 4 weeks now and all is fine. got some night sweats and my temper is up a little but no big deal.

people made it sound as if youll die if you use it.
 
Libertarian,
My name is Shar. Jasen on the board suggested that I see if you have any input on my situation. Here is the link to the thread.

anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/155849-please-help-me.html

Any help is great! I'm still new to this and learning. Thanks! And sorry it wouldn't let me PM you.
 
wow? So you should just basically let it dissolve and extract the glue from fina pellets ? Not heat it?
 
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