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The Strongest Natural Testosterone Booster Available? (Blood Work Included)

OK. Got two bottles I want to run after my log of FREE TEST. Is 5 the max dose you suggest and should I wait until a month or so after taking the free test or can I go right into this? Im asking because im on a major cut, and want to keep everything in check while im doing it.
 
JoHNnyNuTZ said:
OK. Got two bottles I want to run after my log of FREE TEST. Is 5 the max dose you suggest and should I wait until a month or so after taking the free test or can I go right into this? Im asking because im on a major cut, and want to keep everything in check while im doing it.
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You can go right into it.

I wouldn't go beyond 5 caps. I get wayyyy irritable and rage on everyone. Even 5 is questionable. Ask Met about my rage issues. We just had a discussion while getting lunch.
 
LOL. Yeah I ran this product before and loved it. Nutra had that sweet deal and 10% off. Couldnt resist. Had to burrow the money but well worth it in my book. So maybe ill take just 4. ANd because im going to run the 2 bottles back to back do you suggest tapering down at the end or a straight run will suffice?
 
Irish Cannon said:
You can go right into it.

I wouldn't go beyond 5 caps. I get wayyyy irritable and rage on everyone. Even 5 is questionable. Ask Met about my rage issues. We just had a discussion while getting lunch.
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i would have rage too if i had to live in detroit-just kidding irish.:lol:

had itchy nips from my test cyp, estrogen sides were coming on-been taking formadrol at 1 cap am/2 caps pm for around a week and estrogen sides including the itchy nips are gone. going to just use 1 am/1 pm for a week and save the rest for when needed.
 
Irish Cannon said:
You can go right into it.

I wouldn't go beyond 5 caps. I get wayyyy irritable and rage on everyone. Even 5 is questionable. Ask Met about my rage issues. We just had a discussion while getting lunch.
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...(slight thread hi-jack) sooooo, when I get to the point of using Form after the nataD...the going dose (being 170 lbs) is 4 caps/day....divided 2am w/breakfast...2 pm/dinner....or will 3 suffice? any benefit from dosing a cap before a workout? I believe I read in another thread 'no'....?
 
Irish Cannon said:
You can go right into it.

I wouldn't go beyond 5 caps. I get wayyyy irritable and rage on everyone. Even 5 is questionable. Ask Met about my rage issues. We just had a discussion while getting lunch.
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schizm said:
...(slight thread hi-jack) sooooo, when I get to the point of using Form after the nataD...the going dose (being 170 lbs) is 4 caps/day....divided 2am w/breakfast...2 pm/dinner....or will 3 suffice? any benefit from dosing a cap before a workout? I believe I read in another thread 'no'....?
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I am only 15 pounds heavier and take 4 before bed; does a body good post Natadrol. I will taper down to 3 then 2 in the last 10 days or so. PM Met or IC if you need specifics past that, they are the ones who recommended that dosing schematic to me.
 
MrBigPR said:
Why the taper? Unless you don't have enough it really isn't needed
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I was under the impression you needed to do a tapered dose on Form... is that incorrect? I would just rather run it out at 4 a day but somewhere I swear I read you have to taper the dose. It might have been Met who told me that actually. :sad3:
 
oufinny said:
I was under the impression you needed to do a tapered dose on Form... is that incorrect? I would just rather run it out at 4 a day but somewhere I swear I read you have to taper the dose. It might have been Met who told me that actually. :sad3:
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i think you are confusing formESTANE with formADROL.
 
oufinny said:
I was under the impression you needed to do a tapered dose on Form... is that incorrect? I would just rather run it out at 4 a day but somewhere I swear I read you have to taper the dose. It might have been Met who told me that actually. :sad3:
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2-Penyl-benzo{h}chromen-4-one is basically a 7,8 benzoflavone derivative. It has mild anti estrogen activities, but shines in raising LH and FSH causing rise in libido and decrease chance of HPTA shutdown. It's IC50 value isn't nearly as strong as Arimidex or Letro, but remember that Adex and letro are nearly 10 times stronger than the 2-phenyl being under 20nM, with letro sitting at about 2 (really strong).

You'd honestly be fine running straight through at the same dose. Tapering down is only going to limit test boosting capabilities and in the end, results.
 
FYI also, those values are off the top of my head so don't hold me to anything concrete. I'm mobile at the moment.
 
MrBigPR said:
FYI also, those values are off the top of my head so don't hold me to anything concrete. I'm mobile at the moment.
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pretty close i would bet.


are you nationwide? :lol:
 
I am about 3 1/2 weeks into formadrol + t-911 standalone, great stuff. Haven't really been tracking weight but I have definitely leaned out some, muscleS are also harder and more dense. I'll be using this with torem and aromasin for a pct soon.
 
oufinny said:
I am only 15 pounds heavier and take 4 before bed; does a body good post Natadrol. I will taper down to 3 then 2 in the last 10 days or so. PM Met or IC if you need specifics past that, they are the ones who recommended that dosing schematic to me.
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Hmmm, interesting....Met/IC, what advantages are there in taking all 4 at the same time, bf bed....as opposed to 2-am/2-pm...?
 
schizm said:
Hmmm, interesting....Met/IC, what advantages are there in taking all 4 at the same time, bf bed....as opposed to 2-am/2-pm...?
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Just a larger kick to LH production I would imagine. I don't know how much of a difference it makes. I do split dosing now as opposed to all at once.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Just a larger kick to LH production I would imagine. I don't know how much of a difference it makes. I do split dosing now as opposed to all at once.
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I am going to throw my 2 extra (22 days @ 4, 2 extra in 90 count bottle) pwo to see if there is a benefit. I may try the split dose starting next week or even tomorrow. As long as I don't lose any strength/libido after the Natadrol, it is doing exactly what I am hoping for. No b***h tits, no itchy nipples so far and definitely a rise in test noticed.
 
I haven't seen any DHT numbers on these blood tests. Any thoughts on how those will be affected?

I ask mostly because I'm curious on Formadrol's effect on hairloss. Anyone experience shedding or increased hair loss, especially if prone to MPB?
 
Irish Cannon said:
Just a larger kick to LH production I would imagine. I don't know how much of a difference it makes. I do split dosing now as opposed to all at once.
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Hey Irish,
So I have 2 bottles of Nata, 2 bottles of Form and 2 bottle of T-911. Would you recommend I run T-911 along side the Nata? Or run the Nata solo and use T-911 during my PCT with the Form? Or do a tail end run on the Nata where the T-911 is used half way into the Nata and blends right on through to the PCT with the Form?

Thanks :food:
 
VolcomX311 said:
Hey Irish,
So I have 2 bottles of Nata, 2 bottles of Form and 2 bottle of T-911. Would you recommend I run T-911 along side the Nata? Or run the Nata solo and use T-911 during my PCT with the Form? Or do a tail end run on the Nata where the T-911 is used half way into the Nata and blends right on through to the PCT with the Form?

Thanks :food:
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My 2 cents, I ran Natadrol with T-911 the whole time and couldn't be happier. You have plenty to run T-911 at 3 per day the whole time and Natadrol at 6 per day as well. I will let Irish chime in he may have a better plan, that is just what he suggested to me and it worked well.
 
Urban Monk said:
I haven't seen any DHT numbers on these blood tests. Any thoughts on how those will be affected?

I ask mostly because I'm curious on Formadrol's effect on hairloss. Anyone experience shedding or increased hair loss, especially if prone to MPB?
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I have NEVER heard of someone losing hair from formadrol. What compound in the ingredient panel makes you think of hairloss?
 
GMG760 said:
I have NEVER heard of someone losing hair from formadrol. What compound in the ingredient panel makes you think of hairloss?
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Anything hormonal always an effect on hairloss, especially people prone to or suffering from MPB. Just wanted to see what people/LG thought.

Are there any DHT #'s?
 
I don't believe that it would effect hair loss. I know plenty of people who have complained of hairloss on the epithio steroid and used formadrol with no issues. Once again, I have never heard of a user of formadrol complain of bad androgenic side effects like androgenic alopecia or largely increased DHT levels.

Just out of curiosity, in your case, would testofen at a high dose cause hairloss? I ask this because it has been shown to raise testosterone as well, but it's another supplement that I have never heard anyone have hairloss issues with.

I am going to have to ask a higher up about DHT #s, but I'll get back to you on it.

I personally have no ill-effects from formadrol, I know I work for the company, but I used the product many years and versions before I was with LG, and this version is the most effective yet, and I have never had a bad side effect from any of the versions. You are going to have to take my opinion for what it is, but I am sure that other members will chime in to agree with me.
 
I wouuld like to see some threads on the science behind the ingredients in Formadrol. If it's somewhere in this very large post I apoligize. However, please direct me. They don't put much information on their website.
 
While the impact on DHT should be negligible since the primary pathway of Form is Anti-E, there is an extremely slight anabolic property (Aside from test raising due to lowered E) to it as well that for someone who is already prone to DHT fluctuations may have an issue.
 
BBB said:
I wouuld like to see some threads on the science behind the ingredients in Formadrol. If it's somewhere in this very large post I apoligize. However, please direct me. They don't put much information on their website.
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I'll see what I can dig up for you on my PC.
 
DAdams91982 said:
While the impact on DHT should be negligible since the primary pathway of Form is Anti-E, there is an extremely slight anabolic property (Aside from test raising due to lowered E) to it as well that for someone who is already prone to DHT fluctuations may have an issue.
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I don't believe my prostate issues were from the Formadrol. I have used Formadrol in the past without any problems. The prostate issues were from the Natadrol. I added Formadrol in an effort to mitigate DHT issues to no avail. I cannot however find any information to the ingredients used in Formadrol. Is Formadrol as suicide inhibitor? Is it a selective estro inhibitor? Does it attach to both ER alpha and ER beta receptors? In short what is this stuff and where is the science to support its safety?
 
Starting up today

Starting up today!!
5 caps, 2 am 3pm
Usual supporting supps - creatine, protein, vitamin pack, joint support and stims before workout. Not doing a log, can't afford bloodwork, but I'll report back anecdotal results (weight/stength gains, fat loss, etc)
I did the Trifecta stack previously and loved the results (even on the Formadrol Extreme PCT) so I have great hopes!
 
has anyone used it with good results?
but id rather get answers from people who arent reps (no offense)
 
I ran formadrol awhile back and loved it(well minus the acne it gave me). I actually just ordered another bottle 2 days ago. If you have yet to try it i would give it a shot considering it is relativly cheap compaired to alot of other test boasters out there. I did up it to 5 caps a day though that seemed to be the golden spot for it(2am 3pm).
 
"why 5 caps"
I'm 285 and usually need to "add one" to everything suggested for normal sized people
Plus I got 2 bottles on sale and want to give it a good shot


Hey LG Reps, both bottles have the remnents of a removed yellow sticker that included the partial word "-ward" ( award, reward etc). What is this and why might have it been peeled off?
 
Hark said:
"why 5 caps"
I'm 285 and usually need to "add one" to everything suggested for normal sized people
Plus I got 2 bottles on sale and want to give it a good shot


Hey LG Reps, both bottles have the remnents of a removed yellow sticker that included the partial word "-ward" ( award, reward etc). What is this and why might have it been peeled off?
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5-6/day seems to treat us bigger guys pretty well. You got 40lb on me, but that dosing should be great.

The full message on that bottle, BTW, was most likely, "Coward, you'll prolly take this for two days and get scared by your massively increased performance."

Yeah, the last time he made labels, IC must've had one of his "aggression fits" from all the M1D he's on. ;)
 
About the question regarding the sticker... Most of the reps work far from the shipping wherehouse, so I will have to ask LG or Metroba about that one.
 
Urban Monk said:
Anything hormonal always an effect on hairloss, especially people prone to or suffering from MPB. Just wanted to see what people/LG thought.

Are there any DHT #'s?
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I suffer from aggressive MPB and have been for the last 12 years. Controlling it using various topical and oral meds. I did not suffer any increased hairloss from Formadrol Extreme or even MMv3 which converts to DHT in the body.
 
"Coward" huh?? LOL, just the opposite!

Gotta watch it on this stuff!

After just a few days on this stuff I got into a knockdown dragout fight with a 800lb yearling stallion (we live on a horse farm and I "help out" with the more troubled ones). You know the mouth breathing, instant-on sweat, hair standing up on your neck something real bad is gonna come next feeling?? The little SOB reared up and tried to strike me with his front hooves several times and I took it a little too personally, burying my boot each time into the softspot behind the front leg (like our armpit) every time he reared up.

We both were puffing and sweating pretty good until we ironed things out (felt like forever, but probably only 20-30 seconds). So much for my "Off day", lol!

So I guess it's back to the "count to ten" before reacting (Trifecta stack also made me a lot more Alpha Male instead of gentle giant)
 
We put stickers on M1D/Formadrol/MM that are part of the Trifecta Stack. I believe it says something about an award if you bought it as a single product. In other words we'd give you something in exchange for you ratting out the retailer that ripped it out of the Trifecta Box and sold it as a single product.

The Trifecta is obviously a better deal, so sometimes retailers have been known to purchase the Trifecta and then pull the components out and sell them individually. Some of the people out there are real a-holes about that kind of stuff.

...oh, by the way, for anyone interested the Natabolic Stack is now available at Nutraplanet. :D - Man, I've got to say that I was always a Nutraplanet fanatic ever since I found the place when I was 17, but I'm even more so a fanatic now. They're a great group of people to work with. It's such a relief to deal with stand-up characters. I feel privileged to work with those guys.

This post is getting way off topic, but also...

Our informational source on ASGT is up. - Invalid Link Removed is up and running, and Nutraplanet has matched the lowest price available for ASGT.
 
So the supps are legit, but the vendor is dirty for "unbundling" them, correct?
Well that explains why they were so inexpensive ($21) for Formadrol Extreme XL 90ct
Moral dilemma, save money or rat vendor??

I'll check out the new stack, (is it better than Trifecta?) LG rocks!
 
Hark said:
So the supps are legit, but the vendor is dirty for "unbundling" them, correct?
Well that explains why they were so inexpensive ($21) for Formadrol Extreme XL 90ct
Moral dilemma, save money or rat vendor??

I'll check out the new stack, (is it better than Trifecta?) LG rocks!
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I mean, I can't say for sure that that's what they did, but it's very likely. I'm not going to go accusing people without knowing for sure.

It's hard to say if one is better than the other. It is really user dependent. I love them both, but I would probably go with Natabolic.
 
Irish Cannon said:
We put stickers on M1D/Formadrol/MM that are part of the Trifecta Stack. I believe it says something about an award if you bought it as a single product. In other words we'd give you something in exchange for you ratting out the retailer that ripped it out of the Trifecta Box and sold it as a single product.

The Trifecta is obviously a better deal, so sometimes retailers have been known to purchase the Trifecta and then pull the components out and sell them individually. Some of the people out there are real a-holes about that kind of stuff.

...oh, by the way, for anyone interested the Natabolic Stack is now available at Nutraplanet. :D - Man, I've got to say that I was always a Nutraplanet fanatic ever since I found the place when I was 17, but I'm even more so a fanatic now. They're a great group of people to work with. It's such a relief to deal with stand-up characters. I feel privileged to work with those guys.

This post is getting way off topic, but also...

Our informational source on ASGT is up. - Invalid Link Removed is up and running, and Nutraplanet has matched the lowest price available for ASGT.
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I love you too...:love: :flirt:
 
Would running Formadrol during Natadrol run be too much?
 
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