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Dermacrine – The Closest legal thing to Injectable Testosterone.

Eric Potratz

Eric Potratz

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Dear AM,

Needing a testosterone base for your cycle? Not wanting to break the law or inject testosterone?

Invalid Link Removed is the closest legal thing to testosterone, and is orally active using Liqua-Vade delivery technology. (1)

Of course, Dermacrine won't pack on 25lbs of lean mass like pure injectable testosterone, but it can provide some of the important benefits.

The main ingredient -

DHEA: A natural hormone that converts to androgenic/anabolic hormones.

Although DHEA appears to have limited conversion to actual testosterone, it will readily convert to the hormone androstenedione -- A very similar hormone to testosterone, with potent anabolic and androgenic effects. (1,2,9) Despite its ability to raise estrogen, androstenedione has been shown to significantly increase lean muscle mass and strength in men, while slightly reducing body fat. (2)

The liver also converts DHEA to the hormone 7-oxo DHEA, which is a powerful thermogenic hormone. Human studies have shown 7-oxo DHEA can reduce body fat by several pounds after only 6 weeks. (4-8)

DHEA can also support the immune system, and possibly prevent fatigue and lethargy from other steroid hormones. (10-12)​


$49.95 / 25 day supply at full dose

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Thank you loyal Primordial fans!


Yours in health & fitness,

Eric Potratz
Primordial Founder & President


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References -


1. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/137728-future-nutrient-delivery.html

2. Delta-4-androstene-3,17-dione binds androgen receptor, promotes myogenesis in vitro, and increases serum testosterone levels, fat-free mass, and muscle strength in hypogonadal men.
Jasuja R et al.
J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2005 Feb;90(2):855-63 Nov 2

3. Evolution of genital masculinization: why do female hyaenas have such a large ‘penis’?
Frank L
Trends Ecol Evol 12:58-62 (1995)

4. Ergosteroids: Induction of Thermogenic Enzymes in Liver of Rats Treated with Steroids Derived from Dehydroepiandrosterone.
H Lardy, et al.
PNAS, Jul 1995; 92: 6617

5. Ergosteroids VI. Metabolism of dehydroepiandrosterone by rat liver in vitro: A liquid chromatographic mass spectrometric study.
Marwah, A., et al.
J. Chromatog. (2002). B 767, 285-299.

6. Ergosteroids: induction of thermogenic enzymes in liver of rats treated with steroids derived from dehydroepiandrosterone.
LARDY H, et al.
Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 92: 6617-6619, 1995.

7. A randomized, double blind, placebo controlled study of 3 - acetyl - 7 - oxo - dehydroepiandrosterone in healthy overweight adults.
Kalman, D., et al.
(2000). Curr. Ther. Res. 61, 435-442.

8. The effect of 7 - keto Naturalean on weight loss: A randomized, double blind placebo controlled trial. Zenk, J., et al.
(2002). Curr. Ther. Res. 63, 263-272.

9. Physiological Changes in Dehydroepiandrosterone Are Not Reflected by Serum Levels of Active Androgens and Estrogens But of Their Metabolites: Intracrinology
Fernand et al.
Reproductive Endocrinology (1997) Vol. 82, No. 8 2403-2409

10. Activation of immune function by dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) in age- advanced men.
Khorram O, et al.
J Gerontol 1997; 52A:M1- M7.

11. Oral dehydroepiandrosterone in physiologic doses modulates immune function in postmenopausal women.
Casson PR, et al.
Am J Obstet Gynecol. 169:1536-1539. 1993

12. Novel brain function: biosynthesis and actions of neurosteroids in neurons.
K Tsutsui, et al.
Neurosci Res, Apr 2000; 36(4): 261-73.​
 
3. Evolution of genital masculinization: why do female hyaenas have such a large ‘penis’?
Frank L
Trends Ecol Evol 12:58-62 (1995)
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I like this ref. and I'm def. gonna have to look it up b/c I have always wanted to know why female hyenas have such large penises.

BTW I love all of PP's products. I wish I worked for you guys so I could get a employee discount. I haven't tried you guys Dermacrine yet but I am getting ready to run the TRS stack again for my PCT. Nothing brings me back better even from heavily suppressive cycles.


I was listening to a podcast and a Dr. said it was beneficial to run DHEA while on ghrp-6. i know this product is more than dhea but the Dr. has his patients on TD dhea while running the ghrp-6. I am researching it more b/c IDK if it would benefit the people taking mod-grf with the ghrp-6 or just people taking ghrp-6. So anyone out there running that peptide may want to look into the TD dhea.

I am looking forward to trying this product tho'. I also haven't tried any of the LV products yet b/c I am such a fan of the transdermals. Anyways let me know when you guys start selling stock, I'll pick some shares up.
 
kbtoy31 said:
I like this ref. and I'm def. gonna have to look it up b/c I have always wanted to know why female hyenas have such large penises.

BTW I love all of PP's products. I wish I worked for you guys so I could get a employee discount. I haven't tried you guys Dermacrine yet but I am getting ready to run the TRS stack again for my PCT. Nothing brings me back better even from heavily suppressive cycles.


I was listening to a podcast and a Dr. said it was beneficial to run DHEA while on ghrp-6. i know this product is more than dhea but the Dr. has his patients on TD dhea while running the ghrp-6. I am researching it more b/c IDK if it would benefit the people taking mod-grf with the ghrp-6 or just people taking ghrp-6. So anyone out there running that peptide may want to look into the TD dhea.

I am looking forward to trying this product tho'. I also haven't tried any of the LV products yet b/c I am such a fan of the transdermals. Anyways let me know when you guys start selling stock, I'll pick some shares up.
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I was wondering if anyone was going to pick that reff up... they actually talk about androstenedione in that reff and how its responsible for the big penis of the female hyena ... aka androgenic effects.

PM me if your interested in shares in the company.

-Eric
 
Im goin to run Superdrone LV for 3 weeks. Id like to run the Dermacrine for the full 3 weeks with it. This sounds like a good stack to me, could I even run the Dermacrine even longer?
 
superdrone and dermacrine......nice. What an excellent stack
 
rulk22 said:
Im goin to run Superdrone LV for 3 weeks. Id like to run the Dermacrine for the full 3 weeks with it. This sounds like a good stack to me, could I even run the Dermacrine even longer?
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Yeah, Dermacrine could be ran for 6 weeks if you wanted.

It might be more exciting to use SD the last 3 weeks to really kick in the gains.

-Eric
 
FAMOUSX1 said:
would it be possible to Pulse Superdrone and Decrimine M/W/F for 6 weeks together? or better to bridge it?
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Really curious about this too. I'm thinking about running this exact same cycle.
Seems like they would work very well together, just not sure if pulsing dermacrine has any use, or just running it 6 weeks straight while pulsing the SD. could get a little expensive, about $100 worth of dermacrine if I run it 6 weeks straight
 
Im not and i believe eric is not a fan of pulsing at all. But i would maby kick start a derm cycle with SD and run derm 6 weeks.
 
I would bridge.
 
Primordial Perf said:
It might be more exciting to use SD the last 3 weeks to really kick in the gains.

-Eric
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I like this idea the best. I do this with my inject cycles. I will front load the injects to make it kick in a little sooner and then run the orals the last 6-8 weeks of cycle. it's incredible depending on the oral ( my all time fav is d-bol). It would be a little different with transdermal b/c I don't think you can front load them but IMO it's well worth the wait. Personally I am not a fan of superdrol, my body just does not react well to it, too many sides. But this is how I would run it.
 
I asked how this in comparison to x-tren, I ment as in how does it compare as far as strength and muscle gain? x-tren makes you feel like a animal in the gym, how does this compare?
 
RAZORBACK09 said:
I asked how this in comparison to x-tren, I ment as in how does it compare as far as strength and muscle gain? x-tren makes you feel like a animal in the gym, how does this compare?
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better dude. im mid cycle. its tren without the lethargy and more strength
 
Punisher88 said:
I was planning on running superdrone and tren liquidvade, could I add dermacrine or would that be over kill???
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You could, but if so I'd run the Superdrone and Tren LV at the minimum dosages (10-20mg/day superdrone and 2ml, 3 times per day of Tren LV) to prevent the chance of sides occuring.

It's actually a cycle I was planning myself! :)
 
RAZORBACK09 said:
How does Dermacrine compare to x-tren ?
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x-tren? Is that just diendione?

Its really totally different than Dermacrine. TREN causes mood swings, kills the libido, and causes gyno issues for a lot of guys. Dermacrine doesnt have any of those problems.

Id say TREN is stronger per mg, but you will certainly have more sides to deal with if you dose TREN high enough for big gains.

-Eric
 
Soon as my superdrone gets here in going to run a 6 week pulse. I was going to start next week with Mdrol. But I wanna give this stuff a shot. 10-20 mg MWF
 
I give PP their dues,they have created a superb marketing machine with excellent gimmicks that the easily impressed find irresistible.

PP is hitting hard,and i believe is succeeding...I take my hat off to PP for their creativity in churning out old products with a new look.The syringe appliction is ingenious,and LIQUAVADE tecnology,it reminds me of the skin and hair product industry that constantly invent new words that have never existed in the English language before.

PP have conqured the market,PP have arrived!
 
michael75 said:
I give PP their dues,they have created a superb marketing machine with excellent gimmicks that the easily impressed find irresistible.

PP is hitting hard,and i believe is succeeding...I take my hat off to PP for their creativity in churning out old products with a new look.The syringe appliction is ingenious,and LIQUAVADE tecnology,it reminds me of the skin and hair product industry that constantly invent new words that have never existed in the English language before.

PP have conqured the market,PP have arrived!
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Thanks for your support mate! :D
 
michael75 said:
I give PP their dues,they have created a superb marketing machine with excellent gimmicks that the easily impressed find irresistible.

PP is hitting hard,and i believe is succeeding...I take my hat off to PP for their creativity in churning out old products with a new look.The syringe appliction is ingenious,and LIQUAVADE tecnology,it reminds me of the skin and hair product industry that constantly invent new words that have never existed in the English language before.

PP have conqured the market,PP have arrived!
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You're making it sound like their products are just one big marketing scheme when that is not the case. What is wrong with making old products better? That's the whole point isn't it? I agree with the old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" But if the product becomes better I am all for it. It's not just that PP says the products are better or good marketing they have the research to back it up. But I guess I am just easily impressed with a company that puts out products that do what they say for a change.
 
michael75 said:
I give PP their dues,they have created a superb marketing machine with excellent gimmicks that the easily impressed find irresistible.

PP is hitting hard,and i believe is succeeding...I take my hat off to PP for their creativity in churning out old products with a new look.The syringe appliction is ingenious,and LIQUAVADE tecnology,it reminds me of the skin and hair product industry that constantly invent new words that have never existed in the English language before.

PP have conqured the market,PP have arrived!
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I am actually offended by this. Have you read the information on the Liqua-Vade delivery system? It helps deliver flavones and hormones to the system that normally have a bad absorption rate because they are not water or oil soluble. We've actually used science to make products more effective at a lower dose; not only is this not a "gimmick", it's more of a breakthrough in the supplement industry. :hitwithrock:
 
Only time will tell!
 
so if i was going to run an anavar cycle with a test base (hrt dose) - dermacrine at 5ml / day could serve the same purpose just as or almost as effectively? and if i understand correctly an on cycle ai would not be needed?
 
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