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Rike

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I would like to bring to your attention something sent to me from the Alliance for Natural Health USA.

BEFORE YOU READ..........
This is not all about "saving prohormones or designer steroids" to me. This is about ALL supplements in general since while I train people on various "products" I personally only use non hormonal supps in my regimen.

This bill is probably effecting all of the great repartitioning agents and modern non ECA fat burners, transdermals, natural test boosters, and effective pre workout products since the US Gov't will ban all hormone related products anyway in the near future. Read Up




Senator McCain Files New Bill That Attacks Your Access to Supplements and Repeals Key Sections of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act

TAKE ACTION AND TELL YOUR SENATOR NOT TO CO-SPONSOR THIS BILL

Senator McCain’s bill is called The Dietary Supplement Safety Act (DSSA). It would repeal key sections of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA). DSHEA protects supplements if 1) they are food products that have been in the food supply and not chemically altered or 2) if they were sold as supplements prior to 1994, the year that DSHEA was passed. If a supplement fits one of these two descriptions, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) cannot arbitrarily ban it or reclassify it as a drug.

These protections are far from perfect. They discourage companies from developing new forms of supplements. New supplements may be arbitrarily banned by the FDA or adopted by drug companies in a way that precludes their further sale as supplements.

McCain’s bill would wipe out even the minimal protections contained in DSHEA. It would give the FDA full discretion and power to compile a discreet list of supplements allowed to remain on the market while banning all others.

Everyone knows that the FDA is friendly to drug companies (which pay its bills and provide good revolving door jobs) and hostile to supplement companies. Under this bill, this same Agency could quite arbitrarily ban any supplement it wished or turn it over to drug companies to be developed as a drug and sold for multiples of its price as a supplement.

The FDA will like this because it believes that it can more easily control a few industry giants. But isn’t it more likely that the industry giants will eventually gain control over the FDA?

The FDA is already misusing the adverse event reporting process that exists. Drugs rack up thousands of adverse event reports without any action. Just recently, the FDA yanked from the market a supplement product based on just a couple of alleged adverse event reports without even allowing the company (an old and respected firm) to provide any counter-evidence or counter-argument.

The bill also allows the FDA to yank a product (at the company’s expense) if there is a “reasonable probability” that it is “adulterated” or “misbranded”. Let’s remember that “adulterated” could mean there is a minor record keeping error on the producer’s part and “misbranded” can mean that the producer simply tells the truth about the product. An “adulterated” and “misbranded” supplement in Orwellian FDA speak may actually be both completely safe and effective.

We must prevent this bill from gaining traction! Protect your access to supplements by contacting your senators today and asking them NOT to co-sponsor the Dietary Supplement Safety Act but rather to oppose it.

TAKE ACTION

McCain’s Dietary Supplement Safety Act (DSSA) appears to be supported by the US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) which is funded by major league sports teams including baseball, football and others. The recent suspensions of NFL and other professional sports figures is much in the news, and the goal of the sports industry appears to be to shift the spotlight from their players to the supplements industry. In his comments, Senator McCain cited six NFL players recently suspended for testing positive for banned substances and purportedly exposed to these substances through dietary supplements.

The problem here of course is one of illegal sale and use of steroids. So why dismantle the supplement industry in order to control already illegal substances?

The FDA currently has complete and total authority to stop illegal steroids and, more broadly, to regulate dietary supplements. If the agency were doing its job, it could and would have prevented the sale of illegal steroids. The answer to this problem is not to give FDA more power. The Agency simply needs to do it’s job.

TAKE ACTION

Why would a bill be offered to solve an illegal steroid problem that does not really address the steroid problem but instead gives the FDA complete and arbitrary control over all supplements? The answer is simple.

There are a lot of vested interests which are threatened by supplements. Drug companies do not like them because they represent a low cost, safer, and often more effective alternative to drugs. The FDA does not like them because supplements do not come through the FDA approval process and therefore do not support the FDA budget.

Why not simply require that supplements be brought through the FDA’s drug approval process? Wouldn’t that create a level playing field?

That is probably the argument that Senator McCain has been sold. But it is a completely false argument. The FDA drug approval process costs as much as a billion dollars. It is not economically feasible to spend such vast sums on substances that are not protected by patent, and natural substances cannot legally be patented.

This is the great “Catch 22” of American medicine. The FDA, which is supposed to guard and promote our health, is hostile to the kind of natural medicine—based on diet, supplements, and exercise—that represents the real future of healthcare. The Agency has either been captured by drug interests or is trapped in a catastrophically expensive, toxic, and ineffective patented-drug model.

Senator McCain has no doubt offered this bill in good faith. But he has been sold a bill of goods by special interests. And he has been naïve enough not to know that he is being used.

TAKE ACTION

This exceptionally bad bill also requires the reporting of all minor adverse events related to supplements. This is in addition to the already existing requirement to report adverse events. This will further stack the deck against small supplement companies by creating new, unnecessary, even more cumbersome, and of course very expensive administrative hurdles. The result: the consolidation of the supplement industry into a few big companies.If passed, this bill will likely result in the disappearance from store shelves of many supplements currently on the market. In addition to fewer supplements, there would likely be much lower doses available. Unbridled authority would be handed to the FDA, an agency that needs a top to bottom overhaul, not ever more power over our lives.

If McCain’s bill passes, we can look to Europe for a snapshot of what we may be in for: EFSA, the European Food Safety Authority, has sharply reduced the list of available supplements and is in process of reducing potencies to ridiculous levels, such as less beta carotene than can be found in half of a large carrot. Europeans already look to the US to obtain their dietary supplements. If this bill passes, where will we obtain ours?

Please take action immediately. Tell your senators NOT to co- sponsor this legislation and to do everything in their power to defeat it. Then forward this to your friends and family and ask then to do the same!

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Gretchen DuBeau
Legal Director, ANH Int.
Executive Director, ANH-USA
 
Horrifying! Absolutely insane!
 
this would completely destroy the supplement industry and innovation
supplements are a 6 billion dollar a year industry
 
Thanks for you all for chiming in here.

Last time I posted something similar to this I got attacked because the non pro-hormone people bashed me for fighting "hormonal" types of products.

My goal is to protect all supps because I use a lot of types of non hormonal things and while they might not be classified as drugs they sure as hell deliver quite a wallop at their recommended dosages and I do not want to lose my choice to put them in my healthy body.

Just as a side note because of my healthy life style.......

I have Leukemia and I still have such a high natural test and GH level that I fail any attempt to get doctor prescribed HRT at the age of 41. And I went to multiple HRT doctors to get these results.

FIGHT FOR YOUR SUPPS PEOPLE. THE US GOV'T EXPECTS YOU TO BE COMPLAISENT. SHOW THEM YOU CARE!!!!!

Rike!
 
Yeah, I sent mine and posted to other weight-loss boards. I think people need to know about this.

Added to your post with this -

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done.

this is ridiculous. this is the article from espn . com

Bill requires ingredients to be disclosed

Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Sen. John McCain has introduced legislation requiring manufacturers of dietary supplements to register with the Food and Drug Administration and to disclose the ingredients.

The Arizona Republican says that, if passed, the measure would give the FDA authority for a mandatory recall if a product is found to be unsafe.

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig urged adoption of the bill, which was introduced Wednesday and is co-sponsored by North Dakota Democrat Byron Dorgan. Several athletes who have tested positive under various drug programs have blamed their troubles on unlabeled substances in dietary supplements.

McCain has long lamented steroid use in baseball.
 
I really hope they look at the reduction in tax dollars they receive by doing this, and realize that crushing the supplement industry will add more strain to our economy...
 
Current US Federal deficit at end of 2009: $9,985,000,000,000
Projected 2010 Federal deficit: $1,370,000,000,000
Total US Population: 309,000,000
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$36,747.58 = Amount each American would have to pay to pay off Federal Deficit

And we all will be paying this because our tax dollars will have to cover it. The socialists plan on having the "rich" pay it but the "rich" are living beyond their means too.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't think the Feds give a damn about supplements or what we say. If they say this bill will make us safer, the socialists in our country will believe it and give them the green light to control dietary supplements.

In my opinion, vote Libertarian if you want the people to ultimately control what they put into their bodies.
 
IM writing letters and emails to my senators.....I will not let this go without a fight

No way will i have my fave supps be recalled b.c some arsehole spreads a rumor that its spiked. Or some idiot abuses of his body and then blames it on supplements.

I think ill send a letter to Obama too.....both barack and michelle....if i cant make him here my ill get his wife to nag him till he veto's the bill outright!
 
done.

this is ridiculous. this is the article from espn . com

Bill requires ingredients to be disclosed

Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Sen. John McCain has introduced legislation requiring manufacturers of dietary supplements to register with the Food and Drug Administration and to disclose the ingredients.

I don't have an issue with companies having to disclose what's in the supplements. This is the only part of the bill that I'm OK with.

What I do have an issue with is giving the FDA complete and arbitrary control over all supplements.





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IM writing letters and emails to my senators.....I will not let this go without a fight

No way will i have my fave supps be recalled b.c some arsehole
spreads a rumor that its spiked.
Or some idiot abuses of his body and then blames it on supplements.

I think ill send a letter to Obama too.....both barack and michelle....if i cant make him here my ill get his wife to nag him till he veto's the bill outright!
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...ill bite.
Remember, this was brought on by many things some not so fair but some would include products being mislabeled to begin with. Products claiming a clean CofA when in reality the CofA is dirt and no good, companies claiming they "test" their raws when in fact they don't or at best have them tested against a bunk standard...POPULAR companies allowing STONES, YES rocks, to get into their batches...There's a reason why you take one run and have severe cramping and the other run was ok ... how about large concentrations of dangerous metals which pass through many of these unregulated products?
Seriously, you, me, and the rest of us have no idea what we are doing to our bodies, 15-20yrs from now.
...There are several small supplement companies that deserve to be spared, ill agree with that 100 percent but many more that should just vanish today...
 
Before anyone tries to put a little hate syrup on those waffles, let me say...im purely about freedom but it's one thing to have freedom of putting what you want into your body and a totally different thing to take products which you believe one thing but in fact are being lied to about something else...

I want to be able to take all the cissus I can but I don't want my cissus to turn out to be estrogen tablets...i like being a man.
 
Before anyone tries to put a little hate syrup on those waffles, let me say...im purely about freedom but it's one thing to have freedom of putting what you want into your body and a totally different thing to take products which you believe one thing but in fact are being lied to about something else...

I want to be able to take all the cissus I can but I don't want my cissus to turn out to be estrogen tablets...i like being a man.

I agree there should be more regulation, but I think this is a blanket bill that combines a few positives with a lot more negatives that will ultimately hurt us and the supplement industry.
We want to ensure that our supplements are what they say they are... understood. Is the only way to do that to give the FDA full governing power over what we're allowed to take? This isn't all about proteins and PWO's either. How about plain old multi-vitamins? Where do you draw the line?





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Atom and Hardknock said it well

In my original post i was more angered and posted in haste therefore i am happy hardknock took a bite. He makes an excellent point i agree with. And Atom also makes a good point that u have to draw a line on where this bill ends. We all know that this may have started with good intentions but u put good intentions in the hands of corrupt men and you have a problem.

I would love to have supp companies accountable for what they put into their products...but i dont think the government should have ultimate control in this situation. It would be so nice that when a supp says it has XYZ...it only has XYZ and the purity has been tested so when its 5% it says 5%...and when its 95% its actually 95%.

Education and accurate information not ignorance and banning.
 
Education and accurate information not ignorance and banning.
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Baseball commissioner Bud Selig urged adoption of the bill, which was introduced Wednesday and is co-sponsored by North Dakota Democrat Byron Dorgan. Several athletes who have tested positive under various drug programs have blamed their troubles on unlabeled substances in dietary supplements.

McCain has long lamented steroid use in baseball.

Okay, a product has two to four total substances in it. So, it is not noticed when a product says anabolic, hormone, or legal steriods on the label?

I could understand if the product was like MT or whatever and included 101 proprietary ingredients. But is it that difficult for a MLB player to understand when the label is in english? :trout:
 
Atom and Hardknock said it well

In my original post i was more angered and posted in haste therefore i am happy hardknock took a bite. He makes an excellent point i agree with. And Atom also makes a good point that u have to draw a line on where this bill ends. We all know that this may have started with good intentions but u put good intentions in the hands of corrupt men and you have a problem.

I would love to have supp companies accountable for what they put into their products...but i dont think the government should have ultimate control in this situation. It would be so nice that when a supp says it has XYZ...it only has XYZ and the purity has been tested so when its 5% it says 5%...and when its 95% its actually 95%.

Education and accurate information not ignorance and banning.

Bold print, truer words have rarely been spoken, reps for that...
 
Current US Federal deficit at end of 2009: $9,985,000,000,000
Projected 2010 Federal deficit: $1,370,000,000,000
Total US Population: 309,000,000
-----------------------------------------
$36,747.58 = Amount each American would have to pay to pay off Federal Deficit

And we all will be paying this because our tax dollars will have to cover it. The socialists plan on having the "rich" pay it but the "rich" are living beyond their means too.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't think the Feds give a damn about supplements or what we say. If they say this bill will make us safer, the socialists in our country will believe it and give them the green light to control dietary supplements.

In my opinion, vote Libertarian if you want the people to ultimately control what they put into their bodies.

Socialist? How did some of the rich get rich? Take the Big Pharma for example, their rich. They have lobbying power. Your tax dollars subsidize the aholes, and have for years. Only one percent of the population controls 99% of the wealth. Is that healthy for our society? Do you really think that 1% is out there creating jobs and growing the economy? Big Corporations and old money are not out there creating any jobs yet they are getting the breaks. The mid sized to small companies, are the ones out there trying to create and build something and create jobs. The principals, shareholders, and privately held owners of these companies may be well off, but these people are not in the top 1%. It is these people that should get the tax breaks. I don't see how that is socialism.
 
done, and emailed all of my supplement buddies as well!

i'm sure all of the Mommys and Daddys will tell their kids, "i told you so" after they watch a media distorted interpretation of the bill and how supplements are "teh dangerz". not to mention, you can expect to see this issue brought up on Oprah, Dr. Oz, that show with the four quackos, and any government supported info site. quite atrocious.

my uncle is a prime example of one of those heretics who relies on what the mass media says. he tells me during our Thanksgiving dinner, "don't eat protein, it will destroy your liver." he's an Anesthesiologist for a large hospital.
 
done, and emailed all of my supplement buddies as well!

i'm sure all of the Mommys and Daddys will tell their kids, "i told you so" after they watch a media distorted interpretation of the bill and how supplements are "teh dangerz". not to mention, you can expect to see this issue brought up on Oprah, Dr. Oz, that show with the four quackos, and any government supported info site. quite atrocious.

my uncle is a prime example of one of those heretics who relies on what the mass media says. he tells me during our Thanksgiving dinner, "don't eat protein, it will destroy your liver." he's an Anesthesiologist for a large hospital.

Eat all the protein you want..why not just eat real food instead of relying on a crutch like protein shakes?

I'm all for taking in a protein shake when you need one, but just don't include rat urine in my protein shake. I am allergic to rat piss...
 
Eat all the protein you want..why not just eat real food instead of relying on a crutch like protein shakes?

I'm all for taking in a protein shake when you need one, but just don't include rat urine in my protein shake. I am allergic to rat piss...

i take a max of 3 scoops of protein a day. upon waking, post workout, and before bed. and not to mention i don't do this on the daily. maybe on the weekends when my diet goes to sh*t.
 
i take a max of 3 scoops of protein a day. upon waking, post workout, and before bed. and not to mention i don't do this on the daily. maybe on the weekends when my diet goes to sh*t.

No problem mate, I was just making a general statement...
 
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