UnrealMachine
Well-known member
The title says it all. There are physiological limits on the rate at which muscle mass can accrue and gaining 20+ pounds of real muscle (and no muscle memory) in the duration of an oral cycle (~6 weeks) isn't going to happen.
Needless to say, I call bull**** on Primordial Performance's big fat advertisement thread for Tren Liquid Vade that's just a few threads away. No one is going to gain 20 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks, but the thought sure makes you want to reach for your credit cards huh? Eric, i have no problem with you, but you know that title is bull****, and now people are PMing me asking about stacking Tren and Superdrol so that they can gain 30 pounds... Hopefully this is not the prevailing mentality here as I find it completely unacceptable and a definite precursor to less safe-oral cycling if people really believe they can gain that much.
The only way gaining that much LBM is possible is through muscle memory, or if you are relatively new to training weights (and therefore shouldn't be juicing it up in the first place).
It is easy to gain large amounts of weight on cycle, most of the oral steroids here will fill you up with large amounts of temporary weight in the form of water and glycogen. If you keep stuffing your face during PCT, a lot of the weight can stick around, but in the long run it's irrelevant because it's just weight and only a fraction of it is muscle. When you go and do the cut that your bulk now necessitates, you'll find that out.
This should all be fairly obvious. If you could gain 20+ pounds of LBM on a cycle then you'd have to gain ridiculous amounts of strength... Think about how much your benchpress and squats increase per LEAN 20 pounds you add, it's a ton. And finally it's obvious because anyone gaining that much muscle on an oral cycle would be an IFBB pro in less than a year and that's obviously not happening.
Gaining that much muscle is a fun fantasy, it's a good goal, but it's also unrealistic and if you try to gain more muscle than you can gain, you'll probably end up with a lot of fat (been there done that).
Needless to say, I call bull**** on Primordial Performance's big fat advertisement thread for Tren Liquid Vade that's just a few threads away. No one is going to gain 20 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks, but the thought sure makes you want to reach for your credit cards huh? Eric, i have no problem with you, but you know that title is bull****, and now people are PMing me asking about stacking Tren and Superdrol so that they can gain 30 pounds... Hopefully this is not the prevailing mentality here as I find it completely unacceptable and a definite precursor to less safe-oral cycling if people really believe they can gain that much.
The only way gaining that much LBM is possible is through muscle memory, or if you are relatively new to training weights (and therefore shouldn't be juicing it up in the first place).
It is easy to gain large amounts of weight on cycle, most of the oral steroids here will fill you up with large amounts of temporary weight in the form of water and glycogen. If you keep stuffing your face during PCT, a lot of the weight can stick around, but in the long run it's irrelevant because it's just weight and only a fraction of it is muscle. When you go and do the cut that your bulk now necessitates, you'll find that out.
This should all be fairly obvious. If you could gain 20+ pounds of LBM on a cycle then you'd have to gain ridiculous amounts of strength... Think about how much your benchpress and squats increase per LEAN 20 pounds you add, it's a ton. And finally it's obvious because anyone gaining that much muscle on an oral cycle would be an IFBB pro in less than a year and that's obviously not happening.
Gaining that much muscle is a fun fantasy, it's a good goal, but it's also unrealistic and if you try to gain more muscle than you can gain, you'll probably end up with a lot of fat (been there done that).
