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Erection Problems!!! Please help!!

dustingreen

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So about a year ago I decided to take WinZtrol and Phera-bol by Juggernaut nutrition at the same time. I didn't know anything about steroids at the time and didn't know anything about PCT.

The bottle said to take them for 4 weeks, however, I was only on them for about 2 1/2 to 3. The reason I stopped was because I got massivley big too quick. I figured it was my first time and my body would recover fine.

Soo my body did seem okay, however, it was a maybe a couple months later I found it was harder for me to maintain erections and I would never have morning wood or night erections. I would get them around my girlfriend at the time(now wife) but they were very subtle and never as hard as i wanted.

So come to find out I would always loose my erection during foreplay and before penetration. The only thing that helped was "Finally on Demand" at Wal-mart which gave me the hardest erection I have ever had and I never had a problem for awhile. The problem is body is getting used the herbs and it doesn't work anymore.

I just went to the doctor and my total testosterone was 320 on a scale of 300 to 1000. However, i did get my bloodtest about 4 in the afternoon. My testosterone back in August was 519 on a scale of 400 to 1100. The doctor won't do TRT or HRT because i barely fall in the range.

I took ALRI restore for a few days and this completed killed my erections. I don't even get a little blood flow. I beleive this is because it decreases estrogen and you do need some estrogen to maintain erection.

Herbs seem to help me and cialis works a little too but I can't find anything that works as well as the herbal stuff I took from Wal-mart. Nothing works now that I've taken ALRI restore. I order Paravol and Arise36 so hopefully these help.

Can someone tell me what is wrong with me and give any suggestions? This is completely ruining my marriage and i need help!!! HOW DO I GET MY BODY BACK IN SYNC?
 
Ask your Doctor about HCG or maybe even Clomid; you sound like you need a restart. What was your LH? Also, your levels are low and if your Doctor will not help, then I suggest you see a specialist and/or get another Doctor. No sense in walking around like a zombie all of the time when something can be done about it. Good luck.

Edit: Hey Ju1cedUp, that was the greatest post that you've ever written. Such great postings will sure to get you an award. :rolleyes:

Excuse his ignorance, Dustin.
 
Iron Lungz said:
Ask your Doctor about HCG or maybe even Clomid; you sound like you need a restart. What was your LH? Also, your levels are low and if your Doctor will not help, then I suggest you see a specialist and/or get another Doctor. No sense in walking around like a zombie all of the time when something can be done about it. Good luck.

Edit: Hey Ju1cedUp, that was the greatest post that you've ever written. Such great postings will sure to get you an award. :rolleyes:

Excuse his ignorance, Dustin.
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my bad guys haha, my friend clicked that link and couldnt resist himself. my friend had actually the same exact problem, he grabbed some diesel test hardcore i believe? but if the herbals are wearing off, try some clomid or hcg like iron lungz said

hope everything works out, tough situation. Next time, make sure ur educated on ur supps
 
I have gotten an erection and had sex with a total testosterone of 22 (taken the following morning) without any cialis or herbal anything. So total testosterone alone doesn't tell much about libido, like Iron says, LH, FSH, E2, etc all play their roles. So share some more of your blood test results.

When you say "cialis helps a little too" what dose of cialis were you using?
 
can you guys start a new thread to bicker on? I'm sure it was a rough question for Dustin to ask as his first post, and we don't need to fill the thread with you arguing back and forth
 
Iron Lungz said:
Negs are coming for the continuation of the bickering... let it go!
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ok I'll stop. But I'm not bickering I just think juicedup was being an azzhole and was to much of a coward to admit it. I can be an azzhole as well but I'll admit to it.
 
I would go for getting torem and clomid. The torem was much easier on the erections than nolva imo. 4 weeks of 60mg torem and 50mg clomid every day should help your situation. Should have read about PCT before.
 
Thanks for the information. I am actually going to call my doc tomorrow and ask for HCG or Clomid. Is there any that may help better than the other?

Can someone tell me exactly what Clomid is? I thought it was anti-estrogen. My doc actually mentioned Clomid but said it was more for when my wife and I wanted to have a baby.

Also, what is Torem? I googled it but didn't find much information. Do others reccomend 4 weeks of torem and clomid? Or just clomid alone?

Anyone know where I could buy this over internet?

Also, on my first blood test, way back in August, my free testosterone was 123 pg/ml on a scale of 47-244. My Sex hormone Bindin Globulin was 21 nmol/L on a scale of 11 to 80. I do have better days than others and when I took this test I seemed to be doing better.

I appreciate everyone's feedback! Haha lesson learned I am stirring clear of the steroids ha.
 
Google is your friend, but you can legally purchase it as a "research chemical" in liquid form. As long as it's from a legit source it should work just as well as the tabs.
 
dustingreen said:
Ooh well my bad! haha I am still new here. But don't answer that. I am calling my doctor tomorrow for sure!
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Finding a doctor who actually knows what they're doing when it comes to HPTA recovery is a rare find. Check out Invalid Link Removed, Dr. Crisler probably has the best reputation that I know of as far as HPTA recovery related to AAS use goes. There have been some people who have really screwed up their HPTA and he was able to help them. I've heard you can work with him remotely and he can help advise your local physician.
 
dustin green check ur inbox. i send u a dosing protocal marry x-mas
 
........ we have all be there screwing up a cycle it happens also belive it or not............... much luck! btw run nolva on 20 20 20 20 instead fo what i said previously but nolve helps with LH as well a months or so ago some1 posted a good research on this plus clomid alone without nolva can screw with ur homrones as well
 
Nolva and clomid will work just as well as what i said. I just hurt my sex drive and wood more than torem. Either get the doc to give you something or the research company method will prob cost you $60 for clomid and nolva/torem. Its strange how such a short cycle messed you up for so long.
 
Some of it might also be psychological. It's common for guys to get hooked on Viagra and Cialis not because of physiological addiction/dependency, but psychological - they think they need it. Sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
Thanks for all the info! So I think I am going to take Clomid 100 100 70 and 50 with nolva 20 20 20 20. Just because Nolva seems to be more popular and I don't know where I would get torem.

Is the 100 clomid the first two weeks too high? Or should I take 50 all 4 weeks.
Is liquid in these forms just as effective or better?
How long does it take to kick in? I read 10 to 14 days.

Now I just have to figure out how to get it... I couldn't get a hold of my doctor today...

It does take psychological effect on you defintiely. Thing is I took Cialis and it worked great and then I decided to take ALRI restore... after a couple of days of that cialis didn't seem to work?
 
dustingreen said:
Thanks for all the info! So I think I am going to take Clomid 100 100 70 and 50 with nolva 20 20 20 20. Just because Nolva seems to be more popular and I don't know where I would get torem.

Is the 100 clomid the first two weeks too high? Or should I take 50 all 4 weeks.
Is liquid in these forms just as effective or better?
How long does it take to kick in? I read 10 to 14 days.

Now I just have to figure out how to get it... I couldn't get a hold of my doctor today...

It does take psychological effect on you defintiely. Thing is I took Cialis and it worked great and then I decided to take ALRI restore... after a couple of days of that cialis didn't seem to work?
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the clomid seems to raise t levels faster than nolva, dont know exact days. liquid and pill doesnt make much difference. I started my clomid dosages at 150 and there didn't seem to be a problem. i wish i stayed at 100 longer myself.
 
dustingreen said:
Thing is I took Cialis and it worked great and then I decided to take ALRI restore... after a couple of days of that cialis didn't seem to work?
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well, cialis won't give you desire, but should still give you erections. the only times it generally doesn't is if you are taking alot of stims, or if you have abused it for a few days and ended up with the 2-3 hour erections a few times. then you sort of need to give your junk a few days relaxation time. thats part of why they say to call your doctor if it lasts longer than 4 hours as you can do permanent damage to blood vessels in your junk.
 
Yeah that's a good point. I am hoping I didn't damage any blood vesels. When I was taking the herbs I didn't have an erection constantly for 4 hours but there were times when I would get hard quite a bit throughout the day. I would get really hard and then it would go away. Who knows what happened at night as I would always wake up with a woody. I hope it didn't damage anything. Usually when I do get woody, it is not nearly as hard as I want it and it won't stay for very long.
 
20mg of Cialis should keep your Johnson hard. I haven't any erectile issues, but will occasionally take a 20mg of Cialis on weekends. It's called the "weekender" pill for a reason! When I'm on Cialis, I can easily go 4 + rounds on any given weekend night. It's a wonder drug IMO....
 
I would never ask another man to help me with my erection, but hey, more power to you!
Just joking, man.

Have you looked into hCG at all? It's worth looking into, trust me.
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Yur test levels are low but yu didn't say anything about feeling crappy so if yu feel ok with low levels then I would think your g2g.. As for libido tribulus works well in that area
 
Also look into triptorelin, I've read great things, but make sure you know what your doing before you try it.

Good luck brotha, I feel for you
 
That's not nice...but I did stumble across it...the thread, I mean. :)
 
vidapreta said:
What's not nice Erectile Dysfunction??
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Well--yeah, that too, but I was more making fun of the fact that someone sarcastically pointed out how old the thread was...
 
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