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Keepin' it Unreal: Sust, Mast, SD-1 Pseudo-Log

Day 29, 229 lbs (+11)

Ohhhh i go 2 days without Superdrol and my weight dips, and today was the first time in my cycle that my strength didn't increase at all. I hit exactly the same reps on everything as last week

TRAINING
chest
Bench
Incline
Incline dumbell flys
Pec deck double dropset burnout

My workout was still good but like I said, first time there were no increases. Oh SD how I miss you already.

For now I am sticking with 750 sust and 600 mast still but next week I will probably bump the test up. I figure my lifts will be stagnant for a couple weeks as I transition from SD to injectables. Hopefully it'll start increasing again though, i mean I'll be pumping over 1.5g ew total so if I can't get strength increases from that, I'm gonna give up.

As usual the only thing I notice outside of natural lifting is 1) hard muscles 2) horny 3) sensitive nips

I just wish I felt more. I don't know why you people think 750mg of test is so strong.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Ohhhh i go 2 days without Superdrol and my weight dips, and today was the first time in my cycle that my strength didn't increase at all. I hit exactly the same reps on everything as last week

TRAINING
chest
Bench
Incline
Incline dumbell flys
Pec deck double dropset burnout

My workout was still good but like I said, first time there were no increases. Oh SD how I miss you already.

For now I am sticking with 750 sust and 600 mast still but next week I will probably bump the test up. I figure my lifts will be stagnant for a couple weeks as I transition from SD to injectables. Hopefully it'll start increasing again though, i mean I'll be pumping over 1.5g ew total so if I can't get strength increases from that, I'm gonna give up.

As usual the only thing I notice outside of natural lifting is 1) hard muscles 2) horny 3) sensitive nips

I just wish I felt more. I don't know why you people think 750mg of test is so strong.
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Nice Fu ckin ride man, looking great, sounds like your havin fun, pix look sik as fu ck, and ima feelin ya on the loss of the SD, if the stack ima runnin didn't have high dosage of EPI in it I know i would be temtped to add sumthing back in, just love the mellow powerful feelin.
 
damn bro, those pics like that really make the gains noticable. MAJOR increase in vascularity despite MAYBE 1% more bf judging by the increased veins in your forearms. SICK gains, inevitable to drop some carb weight for awhile off the mdrol but I'm sure you'll be kicking ass by next week.
 
your looking great man, don't worry about the slight loss in definition, and i say slight b/c you still are ripped, even with a 10+lb increase in bodyweight, that is a real tough task to slap on mass and still remain as defined as you are

you're delts, arms, & forearms definitely are thicker and the sweep on your quads has become even larger...great stuff man
 
Thanks 17alpha. I've got weird standards i think, after my recomp cycle over summer I was so damn ripped that I feel pretty flabby now, haha. I'm going to get all the definition back, and more.

Dunno how long it takes injects to kick in... So i'm on day 1 of week 5 and I think they are still kicking in further. I've been very thirsty. Thirsty like when I got on SD, but all over again. And my libido is finally nearing those outrageously horny levels it had when I was on my test prop 700mg ew cycle. The muscle hardness from masteron is SICK. I'm guessing its the mast. But I'll figure it out, and keep everyone updated.
 
Day 30, 227 lbs (+9)

Don't speak too soon neverstop, my weight is dropping rapidly now and it's scaring me. Obviously diet is unchanged. Not like I'm looking leaner or anything though. I'm day 4 without Superdrol now and I've dropped around 3 pounds. That sucks.

Obviously the injectables are working, the test worked last time I took it, made my nipples sore and it made me incredibly horny, as far as gains though, it was weak weak weak.

Fortunately I've still got gains coming down the pipe, had a good training day today. I'm going to judge by strength gains rather than weight because I'm sure a couple water pounds will drop off. Although I was so thirsty yesterday i really thought my weight would maintain then start increasing again. Its all whatever... Worst case scenario I have to pump more oil, and I'm fully prepared to do that.

TRAINING
legs
Squats
Lunges
Calves

We spent the better part of an hour in the squat cage, was some good fun training slowly with big rest periods and plenty of laughs... I hit a PR on squats, finally hitting 405 lbs for reps. I'm sure that's peanuts for a lot of genetic squatters but for me it was pretty tough to get there as my squat never increases much. The only thing I can say in my defense is my squats are to parallel so there's no halfass sissy squat bull**** going on. I get real pissed off when I see that ****.
Lunges and calves were pretty normal, lunges were new, but i decided to throw them in because i'm not doing the straight legged deadlifts. I don't want to do SLDL's every week, i'd rather alternate them eow, a lot easier on my back.

So weight is dipping after dropping SD but my strength is still solid.

I'll keep everybody updated but pretty soon i'm going to invoke the pseudolog nature of this log and not update so much. Depends on how busy I get. But i didn't make this log with the intention of updating everyday for 4 months.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Don't speak too soon neverstop, my weight is dropping rapidly now and it's scaring me. Obviously diet is unchanged. Not like I'm looking leaner or anything though. I'm day 4 without Superdrol now and I've dropped around 3 pounds. That sucks.

Obviously the injectables are working, the test worked last time I took it, made my nipples sore and it made me incredibly horny, as far as gains though, it was weak weak weak.

Fortunately I've still got gains coming down the pipe, had a good training day today. I'm going to judge by strength gains rather than weight because I'm sure a couple water pounds will drop off. Although I was so thirsty yesterday i really thought my weight would maintain then start increasing again. Its all whatever... Worst case scenario I have to pump more oil, and I'm fully prepared to do that.

TRAINING
legs
Squats
Lunges
Calves

We spent the better part of an hour in the squat cage, was some good fun training slowly with big rest periods and plenty of laughs... I hit a PR on squats, finally hitting 405 lbs for reps. I'm sure that's peanuts for a lot of genetic squatters but for me it was pretty tough to get there as my squat never increases much. The only thing I can say in my defense is my squats are to parallel so there's no halfass sissy squat bull**** going on. I get real pissed off when I see that ****.
Lunges and calves were pretty normal, lunges were new, but i decided to throw them in because i'm not doing the straight legged deadlifts. I don't want to do SLDL's every week, i'd rather alternate them eow, a lot easier on my back.

So weight is dipping after dropping SD but my strength is still solid.

I'll keep everybody updated but pretty soon i'm going to invoke the pseudolog nature of this log and not update so much. Depends on how busy I get. But i didn't make this log with the intention of updating everyday for 4 months.
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I think the weight drop might just be some water shedding. What are your calories per day? You should be trying to get 4000 a day to gain. imo Also the more your weight increases the more you have to keep raising the cals.
 
SD literally packs your glycogen stores FULL, OVERfull it seems like at times. I ALWAYS lose 3-4lbs after it has cleared my system. It is not muscle. It is purely excess glycogen, trust me. MAYBE a little water, but very little if it is. You're g2g bro, just chill til the test kicks in a week then tear shyt uppppp :head:
 
hman85 said:
I think the weight drop might just be some water shedding. What are your calories per day? You should be trying to get 4000 a day to gain. imo Also the more your weight increases the more you have to keep raising the cals.
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Cals around 3500... Probably sounds like nothing for someone who's 6' 230 and bulking... I have a slow metabolism though, my main concern is not getting fat, and even with my carb cycling, even with my cardio/ketosis days, even being on 3 steroids, so far I have added fat.

So i'm not increasing the calories

bassgod272 said:
SD literally packs your glycogen stores FULL, OVERfull it seems like at times. I ALWAYS lose 3-4lbs after it has cleared my system. It is not muscle. It is purely excess glycogen, trust me. MAYBE a little water, but very little if it is. You're g2g bro, just chill til the test kicks in a week then tear shyt uppppp :head:
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Yeah I know and understand this, but I am on week 5 of 750mg of Sust and 600mg of Mast... This stuff is mostly "kicked" i can feel it enough to know something's there. I should have more water retention from 750 sust than from SD so i didn't anticipate that I'd lose much.

My fear comes from the fact that I don't LOOK any leaner or drier. But perhaps over the next week I will get a better idea for what's happening

My strength is still good so far though so I'm not TOO worried.
 
Day 31, 225 lbs (+7)

Wasn't going to even update but I wanted to because my weight is moving down rapidly, now I've dropped about 5 pounds since stopping Superdrol.

My strength was still good, I trained back and was able to make about a 1 rep increase on all my sets which is good enough for me.
 
I don't see the advantage gained by weighing yourself less. Any advantage would be mental. I think my mind can handle seeing what I weigh... This is how I know exactly how full and how hydrated I am. Many times a low weigh in has made me realize how dehydrated I was.

As far as my weight affecting me negatively, nah, it's whatever... my strength is doing good so I don't mind too much, TBH i've been having a mental battle with myself, because part of me doesn't care to be 230. All the extra eating and hydration... I was actually a lot happier around 210-215 during my recomp cycle.

Anyway my bottom line is i don't care if my weight goes down, so long as my strength is going up. To me that would accomplish exactly what I wanted out of this cycle: strength & hardening while adding density and slowly cutting bodyfat. Pretty much the intention of this cycle is to solidify my physique @ a low bodyfat, adding definition & strength. So if some bodyweight drops off whatever it's probably fat/water.

I just figured the test would have done more to keep my weight elevated, but i shouldn't be surprised because test has never had that effect on me.
 
I agree on the once a week weighing. Less stress means less cortisol, and it is a more overall way to judge gains/losses. imo
 
I weigh much less than you and I typically drop >4lbs of water and carbs when i come off superdrol. I dropped 3lbs in 5 days when I went off phera and mdrol is way stronger. You're right not to worry. Muscle maturity should greatly increase too, I've never seen someone run Mast like this before so now that the methyls have cleared will be very interesting to see how it goes.
 
Day 32, 228 lbs (+10)

Sup fools... yeah i'm gonna keep updating everyday so long as there's stuff to write about. Right now I'm pretty excited, as you know Crazyfool has been coaching me with training and diet, and instead of bumping my doses up I'm going to tweak my macros a bit and focus on what this cycle is supposed to be about, the recomp.

I don't want to look like i'm compromising on my goal of sticking @ 230 pounds but that's essentially what I'm doing. As I mentioned I was a lot happier at 215 and if my weight dips down a little... Fine with me... I just want to get stronger while I get some bodyfat off.

Anyway my plan for the near future is to stay on 750 sust, 600 mast, and throw in some T3. I'll do 25mcg starting next week (week 6) and move up from there but probably won't exceed 50mcg as that was my sweet spot last time.

I'm going to focus on strength moreso than bodyweight now as that is more consistent with my overall desire to achieve greater muscle maturity & a dense and "hard" look. This goal doesn't require high doses of test so much as my original idea to get 230 (or 230+) with test and then recomp down at 230.

I'll say one thing... even at 6'1 or 6' and .5" to be really accurate, 230 pounds seems like a lot. The last time I went jogging, it sucked. And my clothes have problems fitting well. I want to be big but i don't want to look too obviously unnatural. This whole paragraph sounds kind of gay and compromising to me but that's how I feel.

Anyway now that i'm day 6 without Superdrol i do feel like I have dried out a little bit (and i'm more flexible -- didn't realize how water-loaded i was until i noticed the flexibility change). And still up 10 pounds! So things are looking pretty good for me right now... Most importantly my strength achieved from the SD still seems to be here... I did ARMS/SHOULDERS today and hit a PR on close grip bench

So i'm pretty happy and looking forward to having the T3 in the mix and leaning out some while slowly increasing my strength. I think my progress pictures in a few weeks are gonna look real sick.
 
ur doing great big fella...

i know how it feels to be in the middle of a cycle and feel very torn between which path you need to dedicate yourself to due to unpredictable variables and whatnot but your rationale/decision makes perfect sense and i agree that strength gains>weight gain as a bare fundamental, IMO

you know what though, think of it this way, when i do a heavy cycle, i may put on 12-15lbs, but by the end i mostly look like a bloated whale...at that point, i move into a recomp/cut which is just more hassle and i feel compromises the gains made on cycle. at least you know what you are gaining is solid and when it is all said and done, you'll be looking how you wanted, stronger, and bigger and that will be that

congrats on the squat pr btw...i recently just hit the same pr over the summer on my epi recomp, its a great feeling being able to do work with 4 plates on your back. i still can only for it for 3-5 deep reps, but i mean i feel those heavy deep reps are what induce growth.. keep it coming
 
Good progress unreal.. glad to see the weight is on the rise..dont get too hung up i think paying attention to the mirror is just as important too. plus ur metabolism is gonna speed up anyway on gear. keep up the hard work
 
yea thanks 17a. The thing I like about recomping is that I can look better in the mirror while improving strength and those two things are very motivating for me. More motivating than say gaining more strength while looking softer in the mirror anyway haha.

So i'm on Day 34, been in keto, about to do my depletion workout. I woke up and the real SOLID feeling in my muscles was very noticable... And I have yet to fill them up with carbs! I can tell i look "drier" than my last pictures too.

and the 405 on squats felt good, next i gotta go for more reps. What felt better was hitting 275*10 on my close grip bench. I was worried when I got off the SD that some of the strength i got in my pressing would dry up but so far it looks like it's still here.
 
Nicely done so far unreal. I'm trying for the same sort of thing with the recomp. I'm two weeks into keto and look pretty lean but definitely building size and strength. Keep up the good work bro.
 
dang man day 34? haha. i weighed 251 today...im still gaining and im not takin anything...does it take the full 2 weeks for the ester to clear? cuz its been 5 days since my last shot and everything felt SO light today. i look smaller but i guess im not pumped up 24/7. i think i look alot dryer now too
 
you are one jacked mother****er... I can't wait to be done with grad school at night so I can actually leave my job and get back to working out full time in the evenings and get back to running something... sick log man and impressive ... everything lol
 
day 34, 225 lbs (+8)

weight was down. I'm into my carbup now. I like the way I look. Strength was very solid during my depletion workout.

What a ridiculous pump. So i took the Anadraulic state that I'm supposed to be logging and rode to my buddy's house where he gave me 1.5 scoops of Jack3d so I go into this workout pretty ready to hit it hard. I was pumped instantly and after i worked arms my pump got pretty sweet. I felt weird the entire time from the anadraulic state... the tingle and weird aftertaste never seem to leave, and my mouth tasted sour like metal. My stomach was ok this time but I am not sure that the anadraulic state is adding anything to my workouts and I probably won't log this as I was supposed to.
It's kinda funny because one of my lifting buddies bought some anadraulic state and he stopped for the same reasons... upsets his stomach, tastes weird, makes you feel weird, doesn't seem to add anything to the workout. It's not that the taste is so bad, it's that the aftertaste somehow manages to be subtly gross and unsettling, just like the hard undissolved bits that sink to the bottom of the cup, so very nasty. In my workout this translated to feeling slightly more... queasy between my sets, necessitating longer resting periods. Although I should add, the queasiness was much better than the first time i took anadraulic state, where I could barely get through my workout.
 
man, I had the same problem with Get Diesel JP8 . . similar weird aftertaste, unsettled stomach, even though it got me in the zone these sides started fkg with my WO.
 
mooch2321 said:
Xtend! pre/intra/post....nuff said!
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I've always thought scivation chose a weird name for their product, i know it's supposed to xtend your workout, but it sounds like a **** lengthening supplement. And controlled labs, their white flood sounds like it's supposed to make you shoot big loads.

i was 227 today, cardio, blah blah, boring

my diet is going to be ****ed for holidays... I'm choosing to err on the side of MORE FOOD... was at a big work related party today and ate all kinds of ****
 
nosnmiveins said:
thats what i'm fearing on my diet, but im going to try my hardest not to go over allowed carbs
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Keeping carb consumption low is probably one of the most difficult aspects of my training. If i were to keep fat and protein the same but eat carbs just based on my hunger, I'd eat LOTS of them, especially in the evening, and I'd go back to the way I used to be.... BIG, but ~17% bodyfat

It wasn't until I controlled carbs that I got lean at all. They do nothing but break me, and I can handle so few before I get fat. But they taste sooo good. Especially when I'm blazing weed the way i do everyday.

Sometimes I'm jealous of the hardgainers in that respect. I can't even eat carbs anywhere near a 1:1 ratio with protein without gaining bloat/fat pretty quickly. I love meat and my body handles ketosis very well, but dammit, sometimes Im hungry for some carbs.
 
day 36, 228 lbs (+10)

it was chest day. Lost a rep on bench, lost 2 reps on incline. I miss the Superdrol. It was a good workout by most standards but you've gotta hate losing strength when on cycle lol. I killed my chest the hardest with my last exercise, incline dumbell flys up to 75 pounds then did a double dropset from there. So much pain.
 
UnrealMachine said:
it was chest day. Lost a rep on bench, lost 2 reps on incline. I miss the Superdrol. It was a good workout by most standards but you've gotta hate losing strength when on cycle lol. I killed my chest the hardest with my last exercise, incline dumbell flys up to 75 pounds then did a double dropset from there. So much pain.
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thats what i like to hear ;)
 
75lb dumbell flys? my arm woud break lmao. that my problem bro. i really hate controlling my carbs, therefore, im 251lbs and like 18ish bf LOL :C

im sure you'll gain those 2 reps back
 
UnrealMachine said:
incline dumbell flys up to 75 pounds then did a double dropset from there. So much pain.
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i've done 85lb incline db flies....but the funny thing is i probably couldnt do 60lb flatbench flies....is that weird?

my upper chest looks lacking but i can lift more on incline movements then flat...o well
 
nosnmiveins said:
i've done 85lb incline db flies....but the funny thing is i probably couldnt do 60lb flatbench flies....is that weird?

my upper chest looks lacking but i can lift more on incline movements then flat...o well
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your traps are probably strong as F though right? I used to be the same way.
 
Day 37, 225 lbs (+7)

Tnasty i know what you mean. Now is a good time for you to focus on getting big but when you are ready, and you do control your carbs, that's how you will get big and lean.

Nos that's weird. My flat db flys are slightly easier (just slightly), can do the 70s for 10 np... Done 80's before when i did my flys before all the bench sets. I do these with a spotter so i know both of my arms are going down the right amount, i think having a spotter helps a lot.


Anyway, not too much to update, i have thrown in T3 at 25mcg. 25 isn't really enough to notice (it's like 250 test, enough to displace natural hormones without adding much) but i'll be increasing this slowly to 50mcg.

My weight was 225. I wish i were looking leaner but not really. Doesn't test help add weight for most people? When I get on SD or PP i just start adding weight even if i'm eating maintenance, i know a lot of that is just water but shouldn't 750 test add some water, or at least add some kind of weight? It's certainly working, my nipples and libido can attest, but weight has only dropped since the SD has cleared, probably a couple pounds of waterweight leaner but not dropping BF yet.

Trained legs and my strength was exactly the same as last week. My best sets were probably my calves... lol. I was getting tired fast, I was surprised that my intensity and recovery weren't better.

I don't think I get as much from these anabolics as most people do. Shouldn't I get some kind of sides from this stack? With the estrogen under control and my acne normalized (I think it acts up more when androgen levels are increasing or decreasing) I'm not noticing any sides and I don't see anything stopping me from using ludicrous doses.

Quick question: When people are getting so many sides from 750mg of test so as to recommend only 500 to everybody, what sides are they talking about? I have no idea.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I've always thought scivation chose a weird name for their product, i know it's supposed to xtend your workout, but it sounds like a **** lengthening supplement. And controlled labs, their white flood sounds like it's supposed to make you shoot big loads.

i was 227 today, cardio, blah blah, boring

my diet is going to be ****ed for holidays... I'm choosing to err on the side of MORE FOOD... was at a big work related party today and ate all kinds of ****
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hahaha true that on the name thing!!
 
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