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Nobody Ever Drowned In Sweat - GMG760's 1AD/4AD cycle

crowpass said:
I understand that you plan on using AMS's pct, and formestane...? Well, seeing how you are adding in 1-t, are you fearing any shut down or gyno symptoms?. . Im really wanting to know if you planning on running a serm.
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So read his first post. Pretty clear that there is no SERM in the plans - though I'm sure he has Torem on hand.
 
Actually I am not using AMS's PCT, although I am using the same compound. I'll be using ATD and a testosterone booster (I have yet to decide which... but most likely PCS). I will not use my formestane for my PCT, I am saving it for a later cycle to use on cycle. I actually do not have any toremifine left, I am going to be using what Clomid i have left for probably 2 weeks or less to jumpstart my HPTA if I feel the need.
 
Oh, and as far as gyno symptoms are concerned, I am not worried. 1-T does not aromatize, and while Test does, it would be estrogen gyno... which I am not prone to, and if it did happen, a simple low dose AI would do the trick for it. No signs of gyno so far. I am however sensitive to prolactin gyno, but I have no concern for that during this cycle... hormones like 19-nor and Mdrol can be issues for me, in fact Tren and I just don't mesh.
 
You should be good to go. For prolactin issues b-6 is very effective at bringing the levels down. Glad to see the comp fixed!
 
Some motivational headbanging metal parrot...[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWhxCB0ndJE"]YouTube - DEATH METAL PARROT[/ame]
 
Best vid ever!! :toofunny:
 
Since you guys like parrots.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBLg1ft1hQI"]YouTube - Hatebeak - Feral Parrot[/ame]
 
This great to see brotha! Im happy to see this treating you so well! And to say best cycle EVER is quite the statement to the product! Im excited to see what your end result will be!
 
MrBigPR said:
You should be good to go. For prolactin issues b-6 is very effective at bringing the levels down. Glad to see the comp fixed!
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Yea, I have no prolactin issues with this cycle, I didn't expect to either. P5P even at a really high dose did nothing for me when I tried to run tren. I think Caber would be my only option, and it honestly isn't worth it to me. I am going to try to keep research chems out of my body as much as possible from here on out. I understand if I NEED to run a serm that is one thing, but I don't NEED to run tren... there is other stuff out there that works for me and doesn't give me man-cans.
 
crowpass said:
do you mean 6-bromo, of vitamin b-6 in response to MRBIGPR
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No, 6-bromo is an AI. Vitamin B-6 and other variations of B-6 such as P-5-P help control prolactin, however it didn't work for me when I ran Tren.

Perhaps if I ran arimidex or something before and while on Tren I could keep my estrogen so low that prolactin gyno would be impossible, but I don't feel like guinea pigging anything like that anymore.
 
How's it going G?
 
GMG760 said:
Yea, I have no prolactin issues with this cycle, I didn't expect to either. P5P even at a really high dose did nothing for me when I tried to run tren. I think Caber would be my only option, and it honestly isn't worth it to me. I am going to try to keep research chems out of my body as much as possible from here on out. I understand if I NEED to run a serm that is one thing, but I don't NEED to run tren... there is other stuff out there that works for me and doesn't give me man-cans.
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Good assessment of your situation Bro. Sounds like this stack in particular is treating you rather nicely.
 
metroba said:
How's it going G?
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It's going well bro. I know I have been MIA for a bit now. I have a work computer, but until tomorrow or Wednesday I will be without a home computer. Since my work computer was gone for 3 business days, I am playing uber-catch up with my photo editing and can't really be d*cking around on messageboards. I will be back to logging my normal amount in a few days. I only did cardio over the weekend anyway... I may still have to write up my Friday's workout, but that can wait a few.

MrKleen73 said:
Good assessment of your situation Bro. Sounds like this stack in particular is treating you rather nicely.
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Yea, it is mellow and it works well for me. Just kinda expensive. But honestly not when you consider all the ancillary support supplements I don't have to take alongside it as I would with a methyl.
 
GMG760 said:
It's going well bro. I know I have been MIA for a bit now. I have a work computer, but until tomorrow or Wednesday I will be without a home computer. Since my work computer was gone for 3 business days, I am playing uber-catch up with my photo editing and can't really be d*cking around on messageboards. I will be back to logging my normal amount in a few days. I only did cardio over the weekend anyway... I may still have to write up my Friday's workout, but that can wait a few.



Yea, it is mellow and it works well for me. Just kinda expensive. But honestly not when you consider all the ancillary support supplements I don't have to take alongside it as I would with a methyl.
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I have noticed when it comes to my health that it is worth a few extra dollars to stick with the good stuff. I know there are tons of things out there that work, and even work faster but not worth all the extra headaches or sides. So I will spend a little more for what I feel is safer and better for me in the long run.
 
Yea, it is mellow and it works well for me. Just kinda expensive. But honestly not when you consider all the ancillary support supplements I don't have to take alongside it as I would with a methyl.
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I have noticed when it comes to my health that it is worth a few extra dollars to stick with the good stuff. I know there are tons of things out there that work, and even work faster but not worth all the extra headaches or sides. So I will spend a little more for what I feel is safer and better for me in the long run.
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Very well put guys, couldn't agree more. It's about the quality gains, not the quantity. Great to see a good log about this stuff, keep up the great work man!!
 
Quick update while I should be working -

Gym #s will be updated when I get my Laptop today or tomorrow...

But my strength went way up this past weekend, I felt like a monster in the gym last night. I am filling out like crazy in the mirror and on the scale. I weighed in at 202 last night. :D

I got asked what kind of creatine I took by some kid at the gym last night... made me laugh. :lol:
 
Did you tell him MuscleTech FTW?! Also gratz on the gains brah!
 
GMG760 said:
Quick update while I should be working -

Gym #s will be updated when I get my Laptop today or tomorrow...

But my strength went way up this past weekend, I felt like a monster in the gym last night. I am filling out like crazy in the mirror and on the scale. I weighed in at 202 last night. :D

I got asked what kind of creatine I took by some kid at the gym last night... made me laugh. :lol:
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CELL TECH BABY!!!!!! Oh and don't forget the nitro tech. stack those and you can get 45 pounds in a month all muscle. I like the articles in cell tech that says 7 pounds of muscle in 7 days. Now who are they trying to market to? Anyone that knows anything about bodybuilding knows that that much muscle in a week is just about as impossible as banging all the Victoria secrets models in one night. Tools!!!!
 
I TOOK BOTH NITROTECH AND CELLTECH AND BANGED ALL THE VICTORIA SECRET MODELS!!!
 
Naw, I actually steered him in the right direction. I told him what honestly works and doesn't work for me. Creatine Mono with WMS added is what I use. I told him that Kre-alkyln also has worked for me. Magnesium Creatine Chelate and CEE don't seem to do it as well for me.

I also told him that a supplement is exactly that, a supplement... just train hard and eat big. It's kind of ridiculous that kids see BSN ads and think that the the "newest" NO-Xplode or Cellmass is going to turn them into Ronnie Colman.
 
way to go homie :cheers:
 
GMG760 said:
Naw, I actually steered him in the right direction. I told him what honestly works and doesn't work for me. Creatine Mono with WMS added is what I use. I told him that Kre-alkyln also has worked for me. Magnesium Creatine Chelate and CEE don't seem to do it as well for me.

I also told him that a supplement is exactly that, a supplement... just train hard and eat big. It's kind of ridiculous that kids see BSN ads and think that the the "newest" NO-Xplode or Cellmass is going to turn them into Ronnie Colman.
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Wait a minute, the new CellMass won't make me look like Ronnie???? But... But... the add says... I thought it was working but NO apparently my hat size went down by 2 sizes thusly making me look like I have a peanut head and big shoulders. What a travesty. LOL
 
Good Lord, I'd love to be asked a question that direct. I always get, "So, what supplements work?" or "What should I take to get big."

Nice answer to the question, by the way. Creatine Mono and WMS is a nice stack. Sort of like the old school creatine mono + apple juice but version 2.0.

I actually drink teh apple juice with my creatine sometimes. I have lil swig bottles of apple juice, so I just use a few ounces...It's really just an excuse for me to drink teh apple juiz.
 
:toofunny: good ol Timber
 
TimberLakers said:
As phallic and seemingly gay as bananas may seem... I would have some huge questions about guys with "little swig" bottles of apple juice. :lol:
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Plus, I think Money is more of a banana guy with those monkey ass arms... I saw him tie his shoes standing straight up - no joke.

PS - I'll be in the Yay from November 16th thru the 18th if by chance you can come thru.
 
"Two MANKY hookers and a racist dwarf...I think I'm heading home..."

- That only popped into my head because a chick I was with saw that scene from the movie and was laughing hysterically and started saying, "Two MONKEY hookers and a racist dwarf." - I kept saying, "No, he said 'manky.' You just couldn't understand his accent." But she refused to believe me. :dunno: - I don't know what a monkey hooker is, but I really don't want to find out.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spY4AtnmYE8"]YouTube - The Best Scene in "In Bruges"[/nomedia]
 
TimberLakers said:
As phallic and seemingly gay as bananas may seem... I would have some huge questions about guys with "little swig" bottles of apple juice. :lol:
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We call those "sippy cups" around here!!! :shhh::alcoholic:
 
Inarius said:
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All these banana references... Boy are we are on a slippery slope. I am going to have to peel out of here.
 
TimberLakers said:
Plus, I think Money is more of a banana guy with those monkey ass arms... I saw him tie his shoes standing straight up - no joke.

PS - I'll be in the Yay from November 16th thru the 18th if by chance you can come thru.
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Damn it you guys. :lol:
 
GMG760 said:
Quick update while I should be working -

Gym #s will be updated when I get my Laptop today or tomorrow...

But my strength went way up this past weekend, I felt like a monster in the gym last night. I am filling out like crazy in the mirror and on the scale. I weighed in at 202 last night. :D

I got asked what kind of creatine I took by some kid at the gym last night... made me laugh. :lol:
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This cycle seems to be treating you really well :) And you are about half way through.. Congrats on the gains man!!


//CC
 
Thanks guys, I should be getting my Laptop today, finally. If all goes as planned I will be back to normal by the evening. Still catching up on work.

Great workout yesterday, stupid pump in my biceps from the preacher curl. Great hack squat workout, 325 for 8 much past parallel, Widow with 205.

Libido is still high, strength is gaining still. Only downside to this cycle has been the acne... I haven't had zits like this since highschool... I get them every once in a while, but these are the "adolescent" type... more painful/red/irritated kind, obviously from hormonal change, not sweat.
 
Aweosme results so far man. I am starting a 1-AD/4-AD/Decavol cycle here in a few days. Your results are getting me amped!
 
GMG760 said:
Thanks guys, I should be getting my Laptop today, finally. If all goes as planned I will be back to normal by the evening. Still catching up on work.

Great workout yesterday, stupid pump in my biceps from the preacher curl. Great hack squat workout, 325 for 8 much past parallel, Widow with 205.

Libido is still high, strength is gaining still. Only downside to this cycle has been the acne... I haven't had zits like this since highschool... I get them every once in a while, but these are the "adolescent" type... more painful/red/irritated kind, obviously from hormonal change, not sweat.
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On your balls?
 
Yea, this combo is really sweet. I don't get why people bash on it compared to the old androstendiol combo, with this new liquid delivery it seems to be working great as I could imagine. Better than this would be pretty redonkulous.

Got my laptop today. Stoked.
 
GMG760 said:
Yea, this combo is really sweet. I don't get why people bash on it compared to the old androstendiol combo, with this new liquid delivery it seems to be working great as I could imagine. Better than this would be pretty redonkulous.

Got my laptop today. Stoked.
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The new UTT delivery systems along with the cyclo-dextrin delivery systems are taking otherwise weak hormones and making them much more effective.

Kudos to the companies that are wise enough to evolve with the changes that are forced upon us by our beloved DEA and FDA. Where would we be without their oversight and supervision? :privateeye::cop:
Oh yeah.........huge. strong, and ripped. That's where we would be!!! :rant::grumble::soapbox:
 
thundergod said:
The new UTT delivery systems along with the cyclo-dextrin delivery systems are taking otherwise weak hormones and making them much more effective.

Kudos to the companies that are wise enough to evolve with the changes that are forced upon us by our beloved DEA and FDA. Where would we be without their oversight and supervision? :privateeye::cop:
Oh yeah.........huge. strong, and ripped. That's where we would be!!! :rant::grumble::soapbox:
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Dude, you are huge, strong, and ripped... :lol:
 
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