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Slim Xtreme DISCONTINUED!

Evans said:
I am new to all this… as in the use of supplements to reach a weight loss goal, and to posting something on a site where people can respond. I “thought” I had done my homework by reading about SX and thought I should give it a try. I ordered it on oct 11th and received it in the mail yesterday. Now that I look more closely I understand now that most of the reviews I read were posted by people paid to sell the product. I am smarter than that, but the mistake I did make. I need advice from people (like on this site) that are knowledgeable about products such as this. I took my first pill this morning and everything has been fine, no problems. I got online tonight to find out that I am taking a product I shouldn’t be. Should I be worried? I am tired of working out and eating right with no results. I was hoping this would give me the boost I need. Do I need to give up on this, or is this being blown way out of proportion?
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Or you could do what the second line on the bottle says " Before Using this SEEK ADVICE FROM A PHYSICIAN"
 
matthias7 said:
I thought the stuff used in SX was junked by the companies developing Ritalin type compounds - thats what I thought worse case scenario is.
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wow this is interesting, i am not personally familiar with the compounds nomenclature in SX but i glanced over all the info posted before. A relative who is currently using this product and myself can Vouch for this comparison to Ritalin/adderall. The FEELING and SIDE effects are undeniably similar. Although the sides with SX would be same if a higher dosage was used of adderall (ie: difficulty breathing etc)

i was inclined to believe the use of modified recreational drugs would be adopted in some form in this, as i said in earlier posts. Doesnt mean its true. Just seems PRACTICAL from the company's perspective in terms of Stimulant efficacy. I think though, perhaps the TALK on it has gone slightly overboard, although i applaud precaution, its nice to see. To me personally, i dont think anything out of the ordinary has happened. alot of misuse has occurred, (users with the worst effects had antidepressant prescriptions etc and withhold those details) this can be due to the companys advertising also no doubt. ive seen many blogs with users starting at 3 caps daily etc... CRAZY!! Reminds me of early pre-banned Hydroxycut, many figured it was FINE to take handfuls of it to lose weight (ive met a few). till something happened...

People can and should treat this as a SERIOUS drug and use it accordingly. unfortunately so far though this isnt happening

[ / RANT ]
 
buffb2 said:
Or you could do what the second line on the bottle says " Before Using this SEEK ADVICE FROM A PHYSICIAN"
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No need to be rude. I do agree with you that it was a very unsafe decision I made in taking SX, and not doing my homework, but I have a hard time imagining many people asking there Doctor about taking supplements. If you do more power to ya. I should feel more comfortable asking my doctor about stuff like that. But I think everyone knows what a medial doctor would say. I really appreciate your feedback. I agree people just need to eat healthy and workout. I learned my lesson.
 
doctors have mixed feelings about supplements

Some are cool with it and help point you in the right direction

Others think everything beyond diet and increasing your protein is risky

Others are completely against all supplements

Ideally you want a physician who is an athlete and would be able to point you in the right direction as far as knowing what to take and what not to take. But there should never be any fear in showing your physician what ur taking. Just during your next check up take along the supps and ask.

The worst case is that they dont know about supps and they may be able to help direct you in the right direction on who to ask.
 
Iron Lungz said:
If you are eating/training right, then results will be there. You need to make your way to the Nutrition and Training Sub-Forums rather than trying to find a magic pill (because there isn't one).
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Thank you so much for your feedback. Your right. Why I thought this would be the exception I have no idea. I know better. I need to except that this could be as good as it gets and be happy with myself. I know everyone is sick of this thread, but it has been very helpful to me, all 22+ pages.
 
buffb2 said:
Or you could do what the second line on the bottle says " Before Using this SEEK ADVICE FROM A PHYSICIAN"
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So that the doctor could advise about undisclosed ingredients?

Maybe if the 2nd line said "send to an independent lab for the actual ingredients"
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
doctors have mixed feelings about supplements

Some are cool with it and help point you in the right direction

Others think everything beyond diet and increasing your protein is risky

Others are completely against all supplements

Ideally you want a physician who is an athlete and would be able to point you in the right direction as far as knowing what to take and what not to take. But there should never be any fear in showing your physician what ur taking. Just during your next check up take along the supps and ask.

The worst case is that they dont know about supps and they may be able to help direct you in the right direction on who to ask.
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Thank you, I'm not sure I could find a doctor in my super small town I would feel comfortable talking with about supps, or even the mentioning wanting to lose the last few stubborn pounds. You are absolutely right. I really appreciate your feed back!
 
Saw this on BB recall thread I bookmarked. If it has been posted, disregard it. Sorry, it seems every time i log on their are 2-3 more pages added to this thread and........ Im lazy. :sorry:


SLIM XTREME CONSUMER RECALL NOTICE

October 11, 2009

If you have purchased or consumed the dietary supplement product SLIM XTREME by Nutrition Distribution (d/b/a Anabolic Xtreme), please take notice of the following:

Anabolic Xtreme recalling all lot codes of its dietary supplement product, SLIM XTREME. The product is distributed as a box, containing forty-five (45) capsules per package. The label on the packaging lists the company name Anabolic Xtreme, Arizona. In addition, sample serving packets containing 3 capsules per packet were given as samples and are labeled SLIM XTREME. All lot codes are covered in this recall.

This voluntary recall has been initiated due to recent allegations that an ingredient contained in SLIM XTREME may not comply with all provisions of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. At this time, Anabolic Xtreme is aware of no serious adverse events resulting from consumers ingesting this product. We are voluntarily recalling all lots of SLIM XTREME from the market as a precautionary measure.

Consumers who may have purchased SLIM XTREME should immediately discontinue using the product and contact us at [email protected] to receive further instructions for returning the product or with any questions.

We sincerely regret any inconvenience to our consumers. Anabolic Xtreme is taking this voluntary action out of concern for health and safety.

Thank you for your cooperation.
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Jayhawkk said:
Iron Lungs- technically there is a difference between an actual reported issue and someone saying "I went to the ER suffering phychosis from this product alone"

We have to apply the same logic when someone makes an extreme complaint as we do when someone makes an extreme compliment "I put on 40 pounds of muscle and no fat in 5 weeks". You have to apply the same scrutiny in proof. Now if someone posted their ER visit and resulting diagnosis, then I apologize.
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I have an actual reported ER visit with a diagnosis of psychosis from several doctors. I reported the entire case to the FDA.

I think it's funny that AX is stating they have not seen any reported cases of adverse effects.

I have an entire log of messages back and forth with Dr. D from last May telling him about my entire experience. I told him that AX needed to add some additional warnings because this could be a dangerous product for some people because it was when I went off the product that I suffered withdrawal that led to psychosis. You really shouldn't need a doctors supervision to come off of an OTC product.

I have never had an issue with any other stim in my life and I have used other Sulbutamine containing products without ever having an issue. There was something much different with SX that caused this to happen to me. Furthur research on this alleged substance shows that it could have possible dopamine effects which can be some pretty serious business especially with people that have undiagnosed problems like ADHD which is what doctors are pointing to why it created such a storm in my head leading to psychosis when trying to come off of the stuff.

I have written confirmation from Dr. D stating that he explained to AX everything that happened to me and my recommendations about adding some additional safety precautions - "but I doubt they will do anything about it" is what he said.

So either Dr. D didn't inform them of my reported case of adverse effects or they are lying about not knowing about any. He seemed to be pretty sincere in our exchange of messages that he let them know the issues and potential dangers. Maybe AX didn't really get the memo?

Seems like they are spending an awful lot of money to do a "voluntary recall". I received a certified letter from them yesterday with the recall. The postage on the envelope is $5.54 for a simple letter because it is certified mail. They are also requesting the 3 pill samples to be returned.
 
wolverine1971 said:
I have an actual reported ER visit with a diagnosis of psychosis from several doctors. I reported the entire case to the FDA.



I have an entire log of messages back and forth with Dr. D from last May telling him about my entire experience. I told him that AX needed to add some additional warnings because this could be a dangerous product for some people because it was when I went off the product that I suffered withdrawal that led to psychosis. You really shouldn't need a doctors supervision to come off of an OTC product.

I have written confirmation from Dr. D stating that he explained to AX everything that happened to me and my recommendations about adding some additional safety precautions - "but I doubt they will do anything about it" is what he said.

So either Dr. D didn't inform them of my reported case of adverse effects or they are lying about not knowing about any. He seemed to be pretty sincere in our exchange of messages that he let them know the issues and potential dangers. Maybe AX didn't really get the memo?

Seems like they are spending an awful lot of money to do a "voluntary recall". I received a certified letter from them yesterday with the recall. The postage on the envelope is $5.54 for a simple letter because it is certified mail. They are also requesting the 3 pill samples to be returned.
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In any case such as this, you should have gone straight to AX corporate. Dr D, as important a piece as he is or was, is not the owner nor in charge of compliance/complaint issues.
 
hardknock said:
In any case such as this, you should have gone straight to AX corporate. Dr D, as important a piece as he is or was, is not the owner nor in charge of compliance/complaint issues.
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I didn't actually suggest that he is in charge of such things. Since the reps were ignoring all of my claims he actually offered to do it for me. He knows the company so he knew exactly who to contact. What am I going to do, call the 1-800 number and ask for the complaints department? I'm not so sure that would have been all that effective and would have been ignored also. I don't believe it really mattered either way. I voiced my concerns through several channels including the company reps so someone got the message. At that point I was not doing it for myself but for the sake of trying to help others so that they wouldn't have to go through what I went through.
 
you should have gone about it like wolverine.....he knows how to get peoples attention

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wolverine1971 said:
I didn't actually suggest that he is in charge of such things. Since the reps were ignoring all of my claims he actually offered to do it for me. He knows the company so he knew exactly who to contact. What am I going to do, call the 1-800 number and ask for the complaints department? I'm not so sure that would have been all that effective and would have been ignored also. I don't believe it really mattered either way. I voiced my concerns through several channels including the company reps so someone got the message. At that point I was not doing it for myself but for the sake of trying to help others so that they wouldn't have to go through what I went through.
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Well, just coming from someone that has been on the opposite side of a few lawsuits, I can say that contacting the reps wasn't going to achieve everything. Your complaints needed to be on file, yes, I would have called corporate or tried to get in contact with them somehow. Whether it was compliance or complaint, it could have been a better direction. I doubt that any of the channels would have meant anything different but that is just the appropriate direction. I am not saying that you shouldn't have also contacted the reps (the more people that smell smoke, the better), but the other move would have been better for your case, if you are seeking judgment.
 
I got up to 6 per day Methyl Ice did about nothing for me, still eating and sleeping alot.
Have gained 10 pounds in last 2 weeks looking for Slim Xtreme altervative, and trying to stave off this appetite and exercise more! My husband seems to like it the M Ice tho and would rathar take that than Poison -Poison by ALRI - I been taking between 1 and 2 caps per day for the last 3 days. Awake at 2am, but no appetite suppressant. During the day, I'm walking in circles UN focused. I don't want to feel spaced out, just a little more energy and suppress the appetite so I can keep on the path to healthy body!!
 
Poison and Ice

:flowers1::food::yawn::yawn::banghead:
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HaHa nah Poison by ALRI? Nothing on Methly Ice huh? I googled it but I only found one review and the guy didnt explain much other than "its a great product".
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I got up to 6 per day Methyl Ice did about nothing for me, still eating and sleeping alot.
Have gained 10 pounds in last 2 weeks looking for Slim Xtreme altervative, and trying to stave off this appetite and exercise more! My husband seems to like it the M Ice tho and would rathar take that than Poison -Poison by ALRI - I been taking between 1 and 2 caps per day for the last 3 days. Awake at 2am, but no appetite suppressant. During the day, I'm walking in circles UN focused. I don't want to feel spaced out, just a little more energy and suppress the appetite so I can keep on the path to healthy body!!
 
hardknock said:
Well, just coming from someone that has been on the opposite side of a few lawsuits, I can say that contacting the reps wasn't going to achieve everything. Your complaints needed to be on file, yes, I would have called corporate or tried to get in contact with them somehow. Whether it was compliance or complaint, it could have been a better direction. I doubt that any of the channels would have meant anything different but that is just the appropriate direction. I am not saying that you shouldn't have also contacted the reps (the more people that smell smoke, the better), but the other move would have been better for your case, if you are seeking judgment.
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Back in May this had nothing to do with a lawsuit or a case for that matter. The only reason I was contacting the company back in May when it happened was to alert them so that noone else got hurt.

As far as getting the "complaint on file". It is on file with the FDA.

I wasn't seeking anything for myself and made that clear to messages to Dr. D. This was only to help other people which is why he offered to pass the info on for me. That seems to be the point you are missing here. My communications with reps and him was to get any info to the company to try to keep other people from getting hurt. It's not my job to figure out who the "right people" to contact are. At some point a company has to step up and not look the other way when plenty of eyes were made aware of the situation.
 
The fact that the owner/operator addressed your issue back in May (in an open thread) negates the stance that they were never told of adverse effects. That can hold up in a court of law.
wolverine1971 said:
Back in May this had nothing to do with a lawsuit or a case for that matter. The only reason I was contacting the company back in May when it happened was to alert them so that noone else got hurt.

As far as getting the "complaint on file". It is on file with the FDA.

I wasn't seeking anything for myself and made that clear to messages to Dr. D. This was only to help other people which is why he offered to pass the info on for me. That seems to be the point you are missing here. My communications with reps and him was to get any info to the company to try to keep other people from getting hurt. It's not my job to figure out who the "right people" to contact are. At some point a company has to step up and not look the other way when plenty of eyes were made aware of the situation.
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I think any reasonable and prudent person would have done what wolverine did. I would think Dr.D would have passed that info along but even if he didn't it doesn't fall on Wolverine to keep pushing. Can't argue with him on that.
 
Jayhawkk said:
I think any reasonable and prudent person would have done what wolverine did. I would think Dr.D would have passed that info along but even if he didn't it doesn't fall on Wolverine to keep pushing. Can't argue with him on that.
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i agree also.
 
thebigt said:
that is a load of crap, jim put his balls in the vise to let us know what he knew. jim knew he was going to take heat coming on here and did it anyways. many times company reps don't know much more about whats going on than we consumers do. it's not like jim went out of his way to defend the company or it's product's, jim is a good guy and deserves respect for at least facing the music. those people that wrote that are just insuring that the next time no rep will ever have balls enough to step forward. i call bullshiit!
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I call it, resignation.




Yes, I am still dwelling on the article.
 
jim623 said:
I call it, resignation.




Yes, I am still dwelling on the article.
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get over it. hold your head up, you behaved like an honorable man and should be proud. i hope many others feel the same as i, hopefully you set the standard for other reps if ever faced with this situation. you are a good man, jim. and you have my respect.:cheers:
 
Alright, I need to get this clear.. I took SX when it was orange caps.... I had a member ask me about some white and some metallic but I have no clue as I ran the sup when it was orange. What color was the pills that you took wolverine?
 
socal2ks said:
So that the doctor could advise about undisclosed ingredients?

Maybe if the 2nd line said "send to an independent lab for the actual ingredients"
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Im not so sure it was "UNDISCLOSED Ingredients" the very first lot of bottles (which seems to be the one your referring to) did say "Proline analog" obviously if you or YOUR PHYSICIAN was concered or didnt know what that was then you shouldnt have taken it. The second and third lot (white caps) does identify the proline analog (phenyl-pyrrolidinytoluene) once agian if you or YOUR PHYSICIAN does not know what this is then dont take it. The box also says dont use if you have ANY PRE EXISTING MEDICAL CONDITION.
NO DOUBT the first lot of bottles should have said what the 2nd and 3rd does.
 
PumpYouUp said:
Alright, I need to get this clear.. I took SX when it was orange caps.... I had a member ask me about some white and some metallic but I have no clue as I ran the sup when it was orange. What color was the pills that you took wolverine?
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HeHe I mean the BOTTLE cap/top. I've ONLY seen orange pill caps.
 
wolverine1971 said:
Back in May this had nothing to do with a lawsuit or a case for that matter. The only reason I was contacting the company back in May when it happened was to alert them so that noone else got hurt.

As far as getting the "complaint on file". It is on file with the FDA.

I wasn't seeking anything for myself and made that clear to messages to Dr. D. This was only to help other people which is why he offered to pass the info on for me. That seems to be the point you are missing here. My communications with reps and him was to get any info to the company to try to keep other people from getting hurt. It's not my job to figure out who the "right people" to contact are. At some point a company has to step up and not look the other way when plenty of eyes were made aware of the situation.
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I wasn't disagreeing with your direction. As I stated, it may have not been the most efficient direction.

Now, that I see you were not looking to sue or looking for compensation, then your direction was probably appropriate along that line of thinking. My line of thinking was more, lawyer, lawsuit, and court, i.e. McDonalds

I see now that I was talking about a different subject matter than you, my apology.
 
PumpYouUp said:
Alright, I need to get this clear.. I took SX when it was orange caps.... I had a member ask me about some white and some metallic but I have no clue as I ran the sup when it was orange. What color was the pills that you took wolverine?
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I got it the week it came out. Orange caps. It didn't say proline analogue on those. Just "amino slim 4" with an asterick next to it indicating that "amino slim 4" was a blend of 4 amino acids. The bottle also said you could take 3 to 6 per day. I thought I was being conservative at 2 per day considering I weighed over 250 pounds when taking it and have always been a bit of a heavy weight when it comes to stims. I wasn't even coming close to the max recommended dosage on the bottle.
 
hardknock said:
I wasn't disagreeing with your direction. As I stated, it may have not been the most efficient direction.

Now, that I see you were not looking to sue or looking for compensation, then your direction was probably appropriate along that line of thinking. My line of thinking was more, lawyer, lawsuit, and court, i.e. McDonalds

I see now that I was talking about a different subject matter than you, my apology.
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No apology necessary. I kind of figured you were thinking of it from the lawsuit point of view since my most recent posts a few weeks ago were pointing in that direction.

Back in May I wasn't considering any legal action. I just chalked it up as a really bad experience and didn't want it to happen to anyone else that may have a similar brain chemistry to me. Then when I came across the recent news a month ago it really angered me because the undisclosed ingredient made it really tough for doctors in the E.R. to figure out why this product caused psychosis and thought at first is was the sulbutamine but I've taken sulbutamine products.

I would say I had the positive effects to an extreme with euphoria and appetite being zapped but I also had an extreme withdrawal when I stopped taking it. That is the part that totally blindsided me.
 
i found this thread while looking online for more slim xtreme. i have been taking 1 pill 5 days a week or less for a couple months. i know that is way too long... i have tried to stop. i'm clearly addicted to the energy level and not feeling hungry. i'm also afraid of gaining back the 12lbs i have lost. i will continue exercising regularly and dieting... i hope that is enough to maintain my current weight. anyone experience weight gain once you've stopped taking this? is there anything else i should be worried about for taking this product for more than i should have?
 
sweetamycakes said:
i found this thread while looking online for more slim xtreme. i have been taking 1 pill 5 days a week or less for a couple months. i know that is way too long... i have tried to stop. i'm clearly addicted to the energy level and not feeling hungry. i'm also afraid of gaining back the 12lbs i have lost. i will continue exercising regularly and dieting... i hope that is enough to maintain my current weight. anyone experience weight gain once you've stopped taking this? is there anything else i should be worried about for taking this product for more than i should have?
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Visit the training and nutrition section. Post up what your week looks like in terms of exercise and nutrition so it can be dissected and we can help you maintain your weight and lose more without the help of speed. People are using this type of stuff as a crutch instead of an assistant. Let us help you get your basics in check and the next time you utilize something such as a fat burner you will be much more impressed than 12 pounds in a matter of many months (Of course depending on your starting size)
 
pansy punk spoiled americans you sound like a bunch of babies whining----u get a good product and u want it outlawed---keep sucking on your warm milk
 
TWC said:
pansy punk spoiled americans you sound like a bunch of babies whining----u get a good product and u want it outlawed---keep sucking on your warm milk
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Nice... I see your reading comprehension is only surpassed by your glorious vocabulary and grammar.
 
supersize77 said:
No difference between the product in either bottle (as far as I can tell).
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wow- i even started a thread at discount ana where i was bitching about the aniracetam being removed. a ax rep came on there and said i was full of crap that the formula hadn't been changed. later, on this forum they admitted formula had been changed, but they never retracted their statement on the other forum that it hadn't been. this is the kind of bs we are up against. you can check the thread, it's 'slimx formula changed'?.
 
TWC said:
pansy punk spoiled americans you sound like a bunch of babies whining----u get a good product and u want it outlawed---keep sucking on your warm milk
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"pansy punk spoiled americans?" And you are from what eat-sh!t, low- down, 3rd- world country exactly?









My point exactly.
 
thebigt said:
wow- i even started a thread at discount ana where i was bitching about the aniracetam being removed. a ax rep came on there and said i was full of crap that the formula hadn't been changed. later, on this forum they admitted formula had been changed, but they never retracted their statement on the other forum that it hadn't been. this is the kind of bs we are up against. you can check the thread, it's 'slimx formula changed'?.
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This is because you have reps that following according to the plan and then you have those guys that think if they are reps that they actually own a portion in the company. Sometimes, these types will spew propaganda and hoopla.
 
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