Which steroid/PH impressed you the most, and which disappointed the most?

OH yeah, How the hell do I get a pic up on here? I downloaded some yesterday and I can't find them anywere. thanks
 
Dak said:
Im still too young to participate in this thread, but I'm wondering why no one showed love for mass tabs :o
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then please follow the rules and dont post here. this isnt BB.com....we're not obsessed with Mass Tabs.

boxrocker said:
OH yeah, How the hell do I get a pic up on here? I downloaded some yesterday and I can't find them anywere. thanks
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u need at least 50 posts to put up pics i believe
 
I will weigh in on this one- got 10+ years of experience with these type of compounds......so here goes:

Orals- best to worst, at least for me, taking into acct. gains, libido, strength, overall package:
1. Var- love it, use the right dose and this is the only thing on this list that never gave me issues, great recovery, lbm gains, the whole 9 yards, and didn't mess with libido
2. Win- great stuff, always good lbm gains and vascularity, no sides, libido sucked tho, good for whatever sport I was playing in terms of recovery, gave me some tendon issues at times- good to stack with just about anything
3. IP Sublingual Test Base- loved this stuff- very small lbm gains, but libido was insane (never felt anything else like it), and strength gains were awesome- you could put 3 under your tongue, and 10 minutes later you felt like you were 9 feet tall
4. D-bol- always good to me, always felt great on it, good libido, lot of water weight, good strength, quick mass gains, bloated my face tho
5. The One- effects (dry lbm gains, vascularity) are better than anything I have ever taken, but gave me some anxiety and headaches, great for coordination and recovery as well- have only stacked it with 6-bromo
6. Epi- good lean gains, no sides, good recovery, minimal for strength, but other than that, really liked it
7. Halotestin- great for football and track, small lbm gains and bad headaches, but great for when aggression is needed
8. 6-Bromo- really good lbm gains @ 150 mg/day and up, low sides except my joints got a little creaky, stacks really well with a lot of natural supps for an extra boost
9. furazabol- ok stuff- good for CNS, mild gains
10. mestanolone- great for aggression, bad, bad headaches
11. Superdrol- good gains, bad headaches, didn't feel right when I was on it
12. 1-AD and 4-AD- both were ok- I liked 4-AD b/c I was always in a good mood when I took it
13. Anadrol- never again- 20 lbs. in 17 days, projectile nosebleeds, strength was unreal- not worth it though- felt sick every day while I was on it
14. M-1-T- similiar to A-50, never again, made me feel sick constantly
15. methyltest- ugh

Used a few more odd and ends (Halodrol, Turin., 11-oxo, etc. but left out comments b/c of limited experience)

Injectibles (same as above)
1. Test Prop/Susp blend from IP- loved this stuff, painful as hell, but gains were fast and explosive, libido was great, you can almost feel yourself growing on this
2. Test Prop and Susp.- seperate, loved them both
3. Test Cyp or Enan- awesome longer term, great for keeping mass and strength, upping mood, and libido
4. Mast. Enan- loved this stuff- great hardness and vascularity, no water retention
5. EQ- really liked it, great vascularity, stacks well w/ anything, low water retention
6. Inj. Win- great, would be 2, but hurts like hell, even if you cut it
7. Dynabolon- loved this stuff- looked like pepsi, great gains, killed my libido
8. deca- great for gains, ****ty for libido, used to stack with tren and test during summer
9. tren enan- great lbm gains and hardness, but really killed my endurance, made me extra aggressive, especially with halotestin
10. tren ace- same as enan, just killed my wind
11. Sust 300- good stuff, nothing to brag about, good gains
12. Primobolan- def. legit, but didn't do much
13. methandriol- didn't do ****


Used other odd and ends- SERMs, Clen, T3, just about everything you can think of.......haven't used any of the real AAS since 2005 or 2006....priorities changed
 
rms80 said:
3. IP Sublingual Test Base- loved this stuff- very small lbm gains, but libido was insane (never felt anything else like it), and strength gains were awesome- you could put 3 under your tongue, and 10 minutes later you felt like you were 9 feet tall
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I wondered about these, never saw anyone comment on them before. Pricing isn't too bad either.
 
mark118 said:
its interesting how epistane, the one, and SD produce such varying results
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yeah im intrested in this 2 im so surprised how many people are saying they didnt like epistane and superdrol and the one ......

i however have to admit that i like phera plex the best 2 :) nice thread im subbed.
 
rms80 said:
I will weigh in on this one- got 10+ years of experience with these type of compounds......so here goes:

Orals- best to worst, at least for me, taking into acct. gains, libido, strength, overall package:
1. Var- love it, use the right dose and this is the only thing on this list that never gave me issues, great recovery, lbm gains, the whole 9 yards, and didn't mess with libido
2. Win- great stuff, always good lbm gains and vascularity, no sides, libido sucked tho, good for whatever sport I was playing in terms of recovery, gave me some tendon issues at times- good to stack with just about anything
3. IP Sublingual Test Base- loved this stuff- very small lbm gains, but libido was insane (never felt anything else like it), and strength gains were awesome- you could put 3 under your tongue, and 10 minutes later you felt like you were 9 feet tall
4. D-bol- always good to me, always felt great on it, good libido, lot of water weight, good strength, quick mass gains, bloated my face tho
5. The One- effects (dry lbm gains, vascularity) are better than anything I have ever taken, but gave me some anxiety and headaches, great for coordination and recovery as well- have only stacked it with 6-bromo
6. Epi- good lean gains, no sides, good recovery, minimal for strength, but other than that, really liked it
7. Halotestin- great for football and track, small lbm gains and bad headaches, but great for when aggression is needed
8. 6-Bromo- really good lbm gains @ 150 mg/day and up, low sides except my joints got a little creaky, stacks really well with a lot of natural supps for an extra boost
9. furazabol- ok stuff- good for CNS, mild gains
10. mestanolone- great for aggression, bad, bad headaches
11. Superdrol- good gains, bad headaches, didn't feel right when I was on it
12. 1-AD and 4-AD- both were ok- I liked 4-AD b/c I was always in a good mood when I took it
13. Anadrol- never again- 20 lbs. in 17 days, projectile nosebleeds, strength was unreal- not worth it though- felt sick every day while I was on it
14. M-1-T- similiar to A-50, never again, made me feel sick constantly
15. methyltest- ugh

Used a few more odd and ends (Halodrol, Turin., 11-oxo, etc. but left out comments b/c of limited experience)

Injectibles (same as above)
1. Test Prop/Susp blend from IP- loved this stuff, painful as hell, but gains were fast and explosive, libido was great, you can almost feel yourself growing on this
2. Test Prop and Susp.- seperate, loved them both
3. Test Cyp or Enan- awesome longer term, great for keeping mass and strength, upping mood, and libido
4. Mast. Enan- loved this stuff- great hardness and vascularity, no water retention
5. EQ- really liked it, great vascularity, stacks well w/ anything, low water retention
6. Inj. Win- great, would be 2, but hurts like hell, even if you cut it
7. Dynabolon- loved this stuff- looked like pepsi, great gains, killed my libido
8. deca- great for gains, ****ty for libido, used to stack with tren and test during summer
9. tren enan- great lbm gains and hardness, but really killed my endurance, made me extra aggressive, especially with halotestin
10. tren ace- same as enan, just killed my wind
11. Sust 300- good stuff, nothing to brag about, good gains
12. Primobolan- def. legit, but didn't do much
13. methandriol- didn't do ****


Used other odd and ends- SERMs, Clen, T3, just about everything you can think of.......haven't used any of the real AAS since 2005 or 2006....priorities changed
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good to see some old skool hormones reviewed
 
Updated.

Based on this thread, i want to try M1T, M1A and abombs ;)
 
Royd The Noyd said:
What is it suspended in? Cyclodextrin?
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has to be. I think they are 15-20 mg each. lemee see if I can find that

Tesosterone propionate 20 mg sublingual same as injectable prop but no pain , Subingual use only tabs -- not toxic to liver - these been around 16 years to prove they do work : Micronized and bonded with cyclodextrine to be absorbed from skin , under tongue , absorbtion rate is %50 to %85 depends on thicknes of skin under tongue
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Only problem is you have to stick like 3 under your tounge several times and God help you should they taste turrible.
 
TexasTitan said:
Howd you dose your var? And the sublingual tabs looked fun too. Interesting.

Was also hoping to hear your take on turinabol from what appears to be a seasoned vet.
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40-60 mg/day

turi was ok- the results would be real similar to Halodrol and some of its clones
 
Havoc (with low-dose M-Drol pulse in later weeks of cycle)

This cycle gave me the best overall strength gains. Felt like I could workout forever. I was making excellent progress before adding M-Drol on workout days, near the end.
 
Epistane for me!!

2 cycles, for 5 weeks, up to 50/day, and both times gained almost 15 pds, some being water, some being fat from eating like a dinosaur. Strength increase was very impressive.

Only sides were back pumps and lethargy. Only lost 2 pds with nolva PCT both cycles.

In 2-3 weeks I'm going to start a m-drol to p-plex, and will letcha know how that goes, but I must say, I do like epistane!!
 
Dak said:
Im still too young to participate in this thread, but I'm wondering why no one showed love for mass tabs :o
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cus I'm the only one who ran 'em here :13:

but seriously, the old ones were badass, one tab a day, seemed to be slowly digested since it was actually a TAB. new ones blow in comparison, not sure if it's some bullsh*t ingredient or less of it, but new ones are NOT like the old ones..
 
BEST- Phera plex the best size, strength, I felt great and had no lethargic feelings.

WORST- Tren Extreme No size gains, small strength increase, loss of Libido , Major Supression.
 
MOST DISAPPOINTING
Epistane. Hard to call it "most" disappoitning b/c I've never run anything else but I got literally no benefits from this, dosing all the way up to 40 mgs. Weight increased a few lbs but it was fat b/c I was eating so much more. I didn't feel anything mentally or physically except for dry dry ass joints on my last week. Would've preferred to have saved my money.
I have no most impressive but I have M Drol(hopefully not a bogus batch) and P Plex to try in the next couple of years. I will try one once I graduate this winter. Sweet thread idea
 
BEST-Madol is hands down my fav!! I gained 15 pounds and kept about 12 of it. My bodyfat went down as well. Only side was mild to moderate back pumps.

WORST- I second lungz F*ck superdrol!! complete shutdown,blood pressure thru the roof and somehow screwed my blood sugar up. I was so lethargic after a week I was
useless unless I was in the gym.
 
neverstop said:
yeah, the strength i gained on tren was simply nuts, on a 12 week cycle i put literally 85 lbs on my bench. but you're right, because i lost like >50% of that after PCT. when you are on tren you can just tell its fkucing you up in a bad way. there is no way to prove it but i fealt like that tren cycle probably cost me a year of my life or something. PCT was freakin impossible too, i've never been shut down even half that hard.
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i agree. i did a cycle of phera and p tren and i was never so shut down in my life. i did tamoxi and i still feel different... like im not how i used to be. worked great though i put on 25 lbs kept maybe 18 of it.

phera - great
tren - good but sides suckkkk
 
what do you mean you dont feel the same? like you think your test lvls are lower than they were prior?

does phera raise blood pressure? did anyone experience hair loss?

also would 25mg atd or transd forme while on minimize bloat from water?

has anyone tried spawn? tren-epi

kokobeware2 said:
i agree. i did a cycle of phera and p tren and i was never so shut down in my life. i did tamoxi and i still feel different... like im not how i used to be. worked great though i put on 25 lbs kept maybe 18 of it.

phera - great
tren - good but sides suckkkk
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Best: Magna Drol (phera/prostanozol) for bulk or cut. Didn't really have expectations and the muscle/weight gain blew me away. On cut I managed to still get stronger, not as quickly but still!


Worst: M-Drol, got nothing at 30mg and had big expectations for it. I do not mean superdrol clones in general because I have to wait a bit to try a different one but I will!:yumyum:
 
hmm...ill chime in here. great thread unreal!
trenadrol: ok str gains, kept me lean and lost a bunch of bf even while diet wasnt clean. libido really dissapeared

mdrol: makes me feel like sh!t hahaha. i can take 5mg and feel my liver hurting(very serious), but i have ran it. ran a straight cycle 5/10/3 days at 20 but started getting gyno so stopped. i ran a pulse cycle for month or so and gained a pretty good amount of str for pulsing and gained over .75" on my arms. cant even pulse it anymore bc of the liver/get itchy nips with just 5mg for one day. i have around 20-30 caps if anyone wants to buy/trade haha(no change in libido on this)

spawn(tren and epi): only ran this for not even 2 weeks, something was causing gyno, tried to start it up again and i cant, gyno symptoms again.....once again i have 40-45 caps of this left if anyone wants to buy it/trade for it (didnt run long enough for change in libido)

promagnon 25: first oral cycle ever.....LOVEEEEEED IT! most insane pumps, ran it like 25-50-50-75 or something like that. i cant remember. gained 25-30 lbs, hardly any fat (very serious again). didnt keep much of the mass cuz of poor pct, but kep most of the str gains. (libido was insane on this)

im currently running test right now. been on 500 for 6 weeks. this week is week 7, ive gained 16lbs and loads of str but i havnt added much mass for some reason. i have gained alot of fat so far. im about to up the dose to 750 for the last 5 weeks(12 total) and im throwin in mmv3 at 3 caps a day. hopefully it will help cut some bf, along with added cardio.

so my fav....has to be inbetween pmag and trenadrol. worst has to be between mdrol and tren.
edit for input on libido haha
 
What does anyone think about bridging Superdrol and H-drol? Something like,
Superdrol: 10,20,20,0,0,0
Halodrol: 0,0,50,50,50,50

Since I've heard people talk about losing gains so rapidly on Superdrol I was thinking bridging it with something mild like H-drol would be a good way to keep and add more gains and make gains more sustainable during PCT. Just wondering what people think of this.
 
Great thread! Looking forward to seeing the results... may change my mind about what to run in January based on the results.

Best: Epi clones
Worst: None yet...
 
bmore said:
What does anyone think about bridging Superdrol and H-drol? Something like,
Superdrol: 10,20,20,0,0,0
Halodrol: 0,0,50,50,50,50

Since I've heard people talk about losing gains so rapidly on Superdrol I was thinking bridging it with something mild like H-drol would be a good way to keep and add more gains and make gains more sustainable during PCT. Just wondering what people think of this.
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BUMP... I have both of these on hand and would like to know as well.

Great question!
 
Maybe a stack of the 2 since Halo takes a while to kick in. U could end up waking for gains and being shut down from Super. Plus run the Halo a little bit longer.
 
Subbed and Reserved. I'll come back and post my thoughts once I have some more experience. So far all i've ran is epi, and dosed it at 30/40/40/50/50/60 and felt great and put on a few pounds of lean mass.

Here's what I have planned out for my next few cycles:

Tren
The One
Tren + Epi
The One + ??
 
TNASTYII said:
hmm...ill chime in here. great thread unreal!
trenadrol: ok str gains, kept me lean and lost a bunch of bf even while diet wasnt clean. libido really dissapeared

mdrol: makes me feel like sh!t hahaha. i can take 5mg and feel my liver hurting(very serious), but i have ran it. ran a straight cycle 5/10/3 days at 20 but started getting gyno so stopped. i ran a pulse cycle for month or so and gained a pretty good amount of str for pulsing and gained over .75" on my arms. cant even pulse it anymore bc of the liver/get itchy nips with just 5mg for one day. i have around 20-30 caps if anyone wants to buy/trade haha(no change in libido on this)

spawn(tren and epi): only ran this for not even 2 weeks, something was causing gyno, tried to start it up again and i cant, gyno symptoms again.....once again i have 40-45 caps of this left if anyone wants to buy it/trade for it (didnt run long enough for change in libido)

promagnon 25: first oral cycle ever.....LOVEEEEEED IT! most insane pumps, ran it like 25-50-50-75 or something like that. i cant remember. gained 25-30 lbs, hardly any fat (very serious again). didnt keep much of the mass cuz of poor pct, but kep most of the str gains. (libido was insane on this)

im currently running test right now. been on 500 for 6 weeks. this week is week 7, ive gained 16lbs and loads of str but i havnt added much mass for some reason. i have gained alot of fat so far. im about to up the dose to 750 for the last 5 weeks(12 total) and im throwin in mmv3 at 3 caps a day. hopefully it will help cut some bf, along with added cardio.

so my fav....has to be inbetween pmag and trenadrol. worst has to be between mdrol and tren.
edit for input on libido haha
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bmore said:
What does anyone think about bridging Superdrol and H-drol? Something like,
Superdrol: 10,20,20,0,0,0
Halodrol: 0,0,50,50,50,50

Since I've heard people talk about losing gains so rapidly on Superdrol I was thinking bridging it with something mild like H-drol would be a good way to keep and add more gains and make gains more sustainable during PCT. Just wondering what people think of this.
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I see what you're getting at and I agree, however i'd run it differnetly. Hdrol is weak, way way weak IMO (for me personally too), i think if you want to hold gains from SD then you need a real high dose of Hdrol

Superdrol 10/20/20
Halodrol 50/50/75/100/100/100

something like that. seriously. Unless you respond to halodrol very well, personally i didn't gain on 50 and think for me 100 is the minimum for holding onto those insane gains.
 
or even just running the superdrol for 5-6 weeks at 10-20mg, that is a pretty low dose. and running Hdrol after the superdrol, probably not that big of a difference to your liver.
 
Best = Anabolic Xtreme Pheraplex - crazy strength/mass gains with only occasional back pumps. Second Best TD 1-T/4AD.
Worst = Legal Gear M1T - Garbage. In terms of sides far and away the worst. Honestly the strength gains were ridiculous, not worth the sides though.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I see what you're getting at and I agree, however i'd run it differnetly. Hdrol is weak, way way weak IMO (for me personally too), i think if you want to hold gains from SD then you need a real high dose of Hdrol

Superdrol 10/20/20
Halodrol 50/50/75/100/100/100

something like that. seriously. Unless you respond to halodrol very well, personally i didn't gain on 50 and think for me 100 is the minimum for holding onto those insane gains.
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What would PCT look like for a cycle like this?
 
any idea where to find a book or thread that talks about what to eat and when? like for bfast lunch dinner? I try to eat as lean as possible but would like to know more.

Thanks.
 
qwerty33 said:
any idea where to find a book or thread that talks about what to eat and when? like for bfast lunch dinner? I try to eat as lean as possible but would like to know more.

Thanks.
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We're getting off topic here but I always like to help people out when I can. Honestly when I started getting into bodybuilding almost 11 years ago I just started reading every magazine I could get my hands on. I would also look on the internet now. You will be able to find so many diets, all I did was search through them until I found one that A. I liked the foods and B. Would fit into my budget. After you try playing around with your diet for years you will find what works for you and what does not. It's a learning process and I'm still learning after almost 11 years, that's what keeps it fun!


Sorry Unreal for getting off topic, just trying to help a bro out!
 
The original Superdrol impressed me the most,the fact that I was on an all out bulk and I just kept getting bigger and LEANER I've never dropped over 4% body fat on a dirty bulk before. The most unimpressive was Dymethazine I received absolutely no benefit from it at all on a 4 week cycle.
 
Bigchourico said:
The original Superdrol impressed me the most,the fact that I was on an all out bulk and I just kept getting bigger and LEANER I've never dropped over 4% body fat on a dirty bulk before. The most unimpressive was Dymethazine I received absolutely no benefit from it at all on a 4 week cycle.
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That sucks to hear about dymethazine, and i saw the FDA tested it as Super, that's weird, maybe some inconsistency going on there. It's really really hard for me to have faith in the new generation PH's when i hear so many bad things.
 
UnrealMachine said:
That sucks to hear about dymethazine, and i saw the FDA tested it as Super, that's weird, maybe some inconsistency going on there. It's really really hard for me to have faith in the new generation PH's when i hear so many bad things.
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Yeah I remember at the begining it was being hyped as a safer Superdrol. I really had high hopes for it so I was really disappointed.
 
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Decent: The One

I have only run one cycle and that was The One. I gained about 10lbs over a 4 week cycle and the strength gains were good. The only problem was I lost all of my gains because I moved right after my cycle and did not eat or workout enough during pct to maintain. I experienced loss of libido, but very few sides and minimal shutdown; I used the TRS from Primordial Performance and it brought my testosterone levels back to normal as proven by bloodwork.

I am about to run Pmag and then down the road M14e. I will add to this thread depending on my results.
 
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