I just got to take my first dose of it tonight, 1 word WOW!! I switched up from my Ready4War and did 1/2 scoop of JP8, along with 2 scoops NOS Ether and 1 cap DTP with 2 caps DTH and let me say, that was quite nuts!! I have never had a pump like that, and I'm talking warm-ups only!! Training in the low rep range now, with some rest pause stuff. It was my first day off in a bit, and back day, so I knew it was going to be good!! Been on the DTH now for a bit, same with NOS Ether, but man, those were the sickest pumps, ever!! I actually had to take some breaks the pumps were so bad, even more so than with DTH and NOS Ether, didn't think that was possible. It literally felt liek MY back and bi's were gonna explode. I'd hate to thikn of how nuts it would be with higher reps. Good job Chuck!! Only downside is, I wish I had more time to work out, sucks!!