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Complete guidelines on 1-T TREN, 1-T and Dermacrine

Eric Potratz

Eric Potratz

Board Sponsor
Primordial Performance​

Topical Pro-hormones​

In the previous months, I have given you the full scoop on our three main pro-hormone products -- Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed.

This month, I would like to present a full comparison and summary on these products, to help you choose the right one to meet your fitness or bodybuilding goals.
​



1-T TREN​
Invalid Link Removed​

Invalid Link Removed is our ultimate mass and strength building agent. If you’re looking for animal strength, explosive gains in lean muscle mass, and vein popping vascularity, look no further.

Invalid Link Removed can be used as a powerful anti-catabolic agent during cutting, or as a powerful anabolic agent for strength and mass building.

Since Invalid Link Removed can suppress natural testosterone production, PCT is required after a cycle.

Active Ingredients (per application)

1-Androsterone™ – 90 mg
19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione (TREN) - 81 mg
DHEA – 57 mg​

Benefits

  • Increases strength, power & stamina
  • Increases muscle size and hardness
  • Reduces body fat and enhances vascularity
  • Heightens aggression and drive

Side effects

Hairloss - mild to none

Liver toxicity - none

Gyno - nipple sensitivity may occur temporarily in sensitive individuals, however permanent gyno is easily avoidable and extremely rare

Bloat - none

Insomnia - may occur in some individuals

Anxiety - may occur in some individuals ​

Recommended use

Every day for 4-6 weeks.

At the average dose, 1 bottle lasts 27 days.

Invalid Link Removed may also be used as a “kick start” for a longer cycle to quickly increase anabolic hormone levels. It may also be used as a “finisher” to keep anabolic hormone levels elevated while long acting esters (injectables) clear during the end of a cycle.​

Recommended stacks

For most individuals Invalid Link Removed will not need to be stacked to yield significant results. However if choosing to stack 1-T TREN, be sure to do so with a non-aromatizing and non-progestin based AAS such as -

Injectable AAS’s (Primobolan, Masteron, Testosterone w/ AI)
Oral AAS’s (Anavar, Winny)
Oral Pro-Steroids (Epistane, Masterdrol)​

Recommend PCT

Before starting any cycle, I recommend reading the Official PCT of 2009.

For a basic PCT outline we suggest -

For a 4 week cycle - Invalid Link Removed

For a 6 week cycle - Invalid Link Removed​




1-T​
Invalid Link Removed​

Invalid Link Removed is a safe yet effective anabolic formula for quality lean gains. 1-T can be stacked with other “bulking” agents for a mass building cycle, or used alone for solid lean gains.

As a solid anabolic with low estrogen conversion, 1-T can either be used as a cutting agent during a low calorie diet, or in a high calorie diet as a bulking agent.

Since Invalid Link Removed can suppress natural testosterone production, PCT is required after a cycle.

Active Ingredients (per application)

1-Androsterone™ – 112.5 mg
DHEA – 94.5 mg
Pregnenolone – 18 mg​

Benefits

  • Increases lean muscle mass
  • Increases muscle hardness
  • Accelerates recovery time
  • Reduces body fat

Side effects

Hairloss - mild to none

Liver toxicity - none

Gyno - nipple sensitivity may occur temporarily in sensitive individuals, however permanent gyno is easily avoidable and extremely rare

Bloat - mild to none

Insomnia - rare

lethargy - may occur in some individuals

Anxiety - none ​

Recommended use

Every day for 4-6 weeks.

At the average dose, 1 bottle lasts 27 days.

1-T may also be used as a “kick start” for a longer cycle to quickly increase anabolic hormone levels. It may also be used as a “finisher” to keep anabolic hormone levels elevated while long acting esters (injectables) clear during the end of a cycle.​

Recommended stacks

Invalid Link Removed may be stacked with virtually any pro-hormone, AAS or TRT regimen for enhanced fat loss and muscle building effects. Including the following -

Injectable AAS’s (Testosterone, Primobolan, Masteron, Trenbolone, ect)
Oral AAS’s (Anavar, Winny, Dianabol, Anadrol)
Oral Pro-Steroids (Epistane, Pheraplex, Superdrol, ect)​

Recommend PCT

Before starting any cycle, I recommend reading the Official PCT of 2009.

For a basic PCT outline we suggest -

For a 4 week cycle – Invalid Link Removed or Invalid Link Removed

For a 6 week cycle – Invalid Link Removed​
​



Dermacrine​

Invalid Link Removed​

Invalid Link Removedis considered our safest and mildest pro-hormone formula. Dermacrine can help improve recovery, stamina and strength. As a great well rounded formula, Dermacrine serves as a perfect addition to virtually any pro-hormone or AAS cycle.

Dermacrine can be used as an anti-catabolic agent during cutting, or as an anabolic agent for bulking when combined with the proper bulking agents and diet.

Since Dermacrine can suppress natural testosterone production, we recommend a PCT after a cycle.

Active Ingredients (per application)

DHEA – 72 mg
7,8 Benzoflavone (99%) – 36 mg
Resveratrol (99%) – 18 mg
Pregnenolone – 18 mg
Chrysin (99%) – 9mg​

Benefits

  • Accelerates recovery time
  • Improves exercise stamina
  • Increased strength and muscle hardness
  • Reduces body fat

Side effects

Hairloss - none

Liver toxicity - none

Gyno - nipple sensitivity may occur temporarily in sensitive individuals, however permanent gyno is easily avoidable and extremely rare

Bloat - mild

Insomnia - rare

Anxiety - may occur in some non-exercising individuals​

Recommended use

Every day for 4-6 weeks.

At the average dose, 1 bottle lasts 27 days.

Invalid Link Removed may also be used as a “kick start” for a longer cycle to quickly increase anabolic hormone levels. It may also be used as a “finisher” to keep anabolic hormone levels elevated while long acting esters (injectables) clear during the end of a cycle.​

Recommended stacks

Invalid Link Removed may be stacked with virtually any pro-hormone, AAS or TRT regimen for a boost in energy, libido and recovery from exercise. Dermacrine can also aid in fat loss due to its strong thermogenic effect, while also supporting immune system function. Dermacrine would be considered synergistic with any of the below items -

Injectable AAS (Testosterone, Primobolan, Masteron, Trenbolone, ect)
Oral AAS (Anavar, Winny, Dianabol, Anadrol, ect)
Oral Pro-Steroids (Epistane, Pheraplex, Superdrol, ect)​

Recommend PCT

Before starting any cycle, I recommend reading the Official PCT of 2009.

For a basic PCT outline we suggest -

For a 4 week cycle – Invalid Link Removed or Invalid Link Removed

For a 6 week cycle – Invalid Link Removed​




I’d like to thank you for supporting Primordial Performance!

Yours in health & fitness,

Eric Potratz
Primordial Founder & President

Questions?

Phone – 1-800-568-2924
Email - [email protected]
Visit - Primordial Performance​
 
Primordial Perf said:
Primordial Performance​

Topical Pro-hormones​

In the previous months, I have given you the full scoop on our three main pro-hormone products -- Invalid Link Removed, Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed.

This month, I would like to present a full comparison and summary on these products, to help you choose the right one to meet your fitness or bodybuilding goals.
​



1-T TREN​
Invalid Link Removed​

Invalid Link Removed is our ultimate mass and strength building agent. If you’re looking for animal strength, explosive gains in lean muscle mass, and vein popping vascularity, look no further.

Invalid Link Removed can be used as a powerful anti-catabolic agent during cutting, or as a powerful anabolic agent for strength and mass building.

Since Invalid Link Removed can suppress natural testosterone production, PCT is required after a cycle.

Active Ingredients (per application)

1-Androsterone™ – 90 mg
19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione (TREN) - 81 mg
DHEA – 57 mg​

Benefits

  • Increases strength, power & stamina
  • Increases muscle size and hardness
  • Reduces body fat and enhances vascularity
  • Heightens aggression and drive

Side effects

Hairloss - mild to none

Liver toxicity - none

Gyno - nipple sensitivity may occur temporarily in sensitive individuals, however permanent gyno is easily avoidable and extremely rare

Bloat - none

Insomnia - may occur in some individuals

Anxiety - may occur in some individuals ​

Recommended use

Every day for 4-6 weeks.

At the average dose, 1 bottle lasts 27 days.

Invalid Link Removed may also be used as a “kick start” for a longer cycle to quickly increase anabolic hormone levels. It may also be used as a “finisher” to keep anabolic hormone levels elevated while long acting esters (injectables) clear during the end of a cycle.​

Recommended stacks

For most individuals Invalid Link Removed will not need to be stacked to yield significant results. However if choosing to stack 1-T TREN, be sure to do so with a non-aromatizing and non-progestin based AAS such as -

Injectable AAS’s (Primobolan, Masteron, Testosterone w/ AI)
Oral AAS’s (Anavar, Winny)
Oral Pro-Steroids (Epistane, Masterdrol)​

Recommend PCT

Before starting any cycle, I recommend reading the Official PCT of 2009.

For a basic PCT outline we suggest -

For a 4 week cycle - Invalid Link Removed

For a 6 week cycle - Invalid Link Removed​




1-T​
Invalid Link Removed​

Invalid Link Removed is a safe yet effective anabolic formula for quality lean gains. 1-T can be stacked with other “bulking” agents for a mass building cycle, or used alone for solid lean gains.

As a solid anabolic with low estrogen conversion, 1-T can either be used as a cutting agent during a low calorie diet, or in a high calorie diet as a bulking agent.

Since Invalid Link Removed can suppress natural testosterone production, PCT is required after a cycle.

Active Ingredients (per application)

1-Androsterone™ – 112.5 mg
DHEA – 94.5 mg
Pregnenolone – 18 mg​

Benefits

  • Increases lean muscle mass
  • Increases muscle hardness
  • Accelerates recovery time
  • Reduces body fat

Side effects

Hairloss - mild to none

Liver toxicity - none

Gyno - nipple sensitivity may occur temporarily in sensitive individuals, however permanent gyno is easily avoidable and extremely rare

Bloat - mild to none

Insomnia - rare

lethargy - may occur in some individuals

Anxiety - none ​

Recommended use

Every day for 4-6 weeks.

At the average dose, 1 bottle lasts 27 days.

1-T may also be used as a “kick start” for a longer cycle to quickly increase anabolic hormone levels. It may also be used as a “finisher” to keep anabolic hormone levels elevated while long acting esters (injectables) clear during the end of a cycle.​

Recommended stacks

Invalid Link Removed may be stacked with virtually any pro-hormone, AAS or TRT regimen for enhanced fat loss and muscle building effects. Including the following -

Injectable AAS’s (Testosterone, Primobolan, Masteron, Trenbolone, ect)
Oral AAS’s (Anavar, Winny, Dianabol, Anadrol)
Oral Pro-Steroids (Epistane, Pheraplex, Superdrol, ect)​

Recommend PCT

Before starting any cycle, I recommend reading the Official PCT of 2009.

For a basic PCT outline we suggest -

For a 4 week cycle – Invalid Link Removed or Invalid Link Removed

For a 6 week cycle – Invalid Link Removed​
​



Dermacrine​

Invalid Link Removed​

Invalid Link Removedis considered our safest and mildest pro-hormone formula. Dermacrine can help improve recovery, stamina and strength. As a great well rounded formula, Dermacrine serves as a perfect addition to virtually any pro-hormone or AAS cycle.

Dermacrine can be used as an anti-catabolic agent during cutting, or as an anabolic agent for bulking when combined with the proper bulking agents and diet.

Since Dermacrine can suppress natural testosterone production, we recommend a PCT after a cycle.

Active Ingredients (per application)

DHEA – 72 mg
7,8 Benzoflavone (99%) – 36 mg
Resveratrol (99%) – 18 mg
Pregnenolone – 18 mg
Chrysin (99%) – 9mg​

Benefits

  • Accelerates recovery time
  • Improves exercise stamina
  • Increased strength and muscle hardness
  • Reduces body fat

Side effects

Hairloss - none

Liver toxicity - none

Gyno - nipple sensitivity may occur temporarily in sensitive individuals, however permanent gyno is easily avoidable and extremely rare

Bloat - mild

Insomnia - rare

Anxiety - may occur in some non-exercising individuals​

Recommended use

Every day for 4-6 weeks.

At the average dose, 1 bottle lasts 27 days.

Invalid Link Removed may also be used as a “kick start” for a longer cycle to quickly increase anabolic hormone levels. It may also be used as a “finisher” to keep anabolic hormone levels elevated while long acting esters (injectables) clear during the end of a cycle.​

Recommended stacks

Invalid Link Removed may be stacked with virtually any pro-hormone, AAS or TRT regimen for a boost in energy, libido and recovery from exercise. Dermacrine can also aid in fat loss due to its strong thermogenic effect, while also supporting immune system function. Dermacrine would be considered synergistic with any of the below items -

Injectable AAS (Testosterone, Primobolan, Masteron, Trenbolone, ect)
Oral AAS (Anavar, Winny, Dianabol, Anadrol, ect)
Oral Pro-Steroids (Epistane, Pheraplex, Superdrol, ect)​

Recommend PCT

Before starting any cycle, I recommend reading the Official PCT of 2009.

For a basic PCT outline we suggest -

For a 4 week cycle – Invalid Link Removed or Invalid Link Removed

For a 6 week cycle – Invalid Link Removed​




I’d like to thank you for supporting Primordial Performance!

Yours in health & fitness,

Eric Potratz
Primordial Founder & President

Questions?

Phone – 1-800-568-2924
Email - [email protected]
Visit - Primordial Performance​
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Nice now everyones got the info time to hit up that BOGO sale :type:​
 
Can 1-T be run along with Dermacrine? Just thinking about the lethargy possibility with 1-T.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Can 1-T be run along with Dermacrine? Just thinking about the lethargy possibility with 1-T.
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If you are worried about lethargy then just go for the 1-T TREN.

Dermacrine and 1- T weren’t really meant to be "stacked", but I guess you could split the dose of each and do 2 pumps 1-T w/ 3 pumps Derma.

-Eric
 
Thanks Eric, I was curious about the possible synergy of the two.
 
I am not looking for any strength increases these days. Being 50 I have had to pull back my weights because I am constantly getting dinged up when I go heavy. I am just trying to put on some good quality LBM and aid my recovery. Thanks again Eric!
 
AZMIDLYF said:
I am not looking for any strength increases these days. Being 50 I have had to pull back my weights because I am constantly getting dinged up when I go heavy. I am just trying to put on some good quality LBM and aid my recovery. Thanks again Eric!
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Sounds good… the Dermacrine may just be what you need then.

-Eric
 
Zero V said:
Si senor!

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Its probably better to avoid Formestane for PCT. You will get 4-hydroxytestosterone conversion from that which will have some anti-androgenic (or lesser than testosterone) effects that will inhibit the HPTA and slow PCT. Plus it brings estrogen down too low.

The only place for formestane should be on cycle IMO.

-Eric
 
alkaline1968 said:
How about stacking 1-t tren with hrol would that be safe within its relevance?
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Yeah, thats been done and it would be a solid cycle.

We recommend that you keep the dose low/moderate if you are going to use an oral with 1-T TREN... like half the recommended dose to help keep the toxicity down.

Plus, the 1-T TREN is so damn powerful you really dont need to stack it with much to notice very pronounced gains.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Yeah, thats been done and it would be a solid cycle.

We recommend that you keep the dose low/moderate if you are going to use an oral with 1-T TREN... like half the recommended dose to help keep the toxicity down.

Plus, the 1-T TREN is so damn powerful you really dont need to stack it with much to notice very pronounced gains.

-Eric
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How would you compare 1-TT, 1-T and Dermacrine with h-drol with respect to on-cycle sides and simplicity of effective PCT?

Not sure if it's fair to include 1-TT with that group because it's a lot stronger and if I'm not mistaken sides are much more pronounced.
 
LAGear said:
How would you compare 1-TT, 1-T and Dermacrine with h-drol with respect to on-cycle sides and simplicity of effective PCT?

Not sure if it's fair to include 1-TT with that group because it's a lot stronger and if I'm not mistaken sides are much more pronounced.
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How would I compare our topicals against h-drol?

The 1-T TREN sides really aren't bad... reduced sex drive being the only side effect and maybe transient sensitivity in the nipples if you are prone to it.

So far we havnt had any complaints of increased hair loss, acne, elevated liver enzymes, bloat, ect...

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
How would I compare our topicals against h-drol?

The 1-T TREN sides really aren't bad... reduced sex drive being the only side effect and maybe transient sensitivity in the nipples if you are prone to it.

So far we havnt had any complaints of increased hair loss, acne, elevated liver enzymes, bloat, ect...

-Eric
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For some reason I was under the impression that Tren was only recommended for more advanced users so I assumed that was because of sides and/or complicated PCT.

I was thinking I might try Dermacrine for my next cycle since it's your most mild offering. Since they are similar WTR to sides would you suggest I skip the others and go straight to Tren?

I can live with reduced sex drive but has nipple sensitivity been reported with 1-T or Dermacrine? I can't tell from h-drol if I'm prone to sensitivity but I can tell you that I'm paranoid about gyno so if I noticed any sensitivity on cycle I'd probably abort the cycle prematurely and start PCT right away.
 
LAGear said:
For some reason I was under the impression that Tren was only recommended for more advanced users so I assumed that was because of sides and/or complicated PCT.

I was thinking I might try Dermacrine for my next cycle since it's your most mild offering. Since they are similar WTR to sides would you suggest I skip the others and go straight to Tren?

I can live with reduced sex drive but has nipple sensitivity been reported with 1-T or Dermacrine? I can't tell from h-drol if I'm prone to sensitivity but I can tell you that I'm paranoid about gyno so if I noticed any sensitivity on cycle I'd probably abort the cycle prematurely and start PCT right away.
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If you are really worried about nipple sensitivity then you may want to stick with Dermacrine or 1-T.

Just know that a few days of "nipple sensitivity" does not mean you are going to get gyno... in fact these symptoms often just go away on their own if you do the things I mentioned to correct the situation.

The only thing "advanced" about 1-T TREN is the fact that its going to suppress you more than the other products... So it not something to use carelessly without PCT. Its important to really understand the power of this product and that the length of the cycle should be limited.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
If you are really worried about nipple sensitivity then you may want to stick with Dermacrine or 1-T.

Just know that a few days of "nipple sensitivity" does not mean you are going to get gyno... in fact these symptoms often just go away on their own if you do the things I mentioned to correct the situation.

The only thing "advanced" about 1-T TREN is the fact that its going to suppress you more than the other products... So it not something to use carelessly without PCT. Its important to really understand the power of this product and that the length of the cycle should be limited.

-Eric
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Thanks Eric.

I understand that nipple sensitivity doesn't always lead to gyno. But with only one cycle under my belt I don't think I've developed the confidence or knowledge to deal with sensitivity if it crops up. So for now I'm going to rule out Tren.

Running proper PCT isn't an issue for me, I'm anal about it and will do full PCT, using a SERM, no matter what I cycle.

My h-drol cycle went reasonably well and so far my PCT (12 days in) is going smoothly. I'd like to use something a little stronger next time around but for my second cycle I still want to use something that isn't going to throw any curves my way.

If sides/PCT are similar between 1-T and Dermacrine seems like 1-T is the logical choice here. Am I missing something that would make Dermacrine a better choice for me?

Thanks.
 
LAGear said:
Thanks Eric.

I understand that nipple sensitivity doesn't always lead to gyno. But with only one cycle under my belt I don't think I've developed the confidence or knowledge to deal with sensitivity if it crops up. So for now I'm going to rule out Tren.

Running proper PCT isn't an issue for me, I'm anal about it and will do full PCT, using a SERM, no matter what I cycle.

My h-drol cycle went reasonably well and so far my PCT (12 days in) is going smoothly. I'd like to use something a little stronger next time around but for my second cycle I still want to use something that isn't going to throw any curves my way.

If sides/PCT are similar between 1-T and Dermacrine seems like 1-T is the logical choice here. Am I missing something that would make Dermacrine a better choice for me?

Thanks.
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You might suffer from lethargy from the 1-T… which would be the only side effect that 1-T carries that Dermacrine doesn’t.

1-T TREN doesnt seem to have this effect. (only heard it mentioned a couple times thus far)

-Eric
 
Currently stacking 1-T Tren @ 5 pumps and Epistane @ 20/30/40/40, and having awesome results...this combo seems to work great for me, and would suggest it to anyone looking for massive strength and lean muscle gains. Been cycling 1-t Tren for a while now and just decided to up it a bit this time around with the Epistane stack..so far all my weights have skyrocketed. Love PP's products.
 
SoCalWFF said:
Currently stacking 1-T Tren @ 5 pumps and Epistane @ 20/30/40/40, and having awesome results...this combo seems to work great for me, and would suggest it to anyone looking for massive strength and lean muscle gains. Been cycling 1-t Tren for a while now and just decided to up it a bit this time around with the Epistane stack..so far all my weights have skyrocketed. Love PP's products.
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Thats great to hear... halodrol or epistane have both been popular stacks with 1-T TREN.

-Eric
 
Superb write-up mate, just what the doctor ordered! :biglaugh:

hmmm....Test E with a 1-T Tren kickstart...now that's a mass stack!
 
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Bump for this great deal, everyone!! :food:​
 
Primordial Perf said:
The 1-T TREN sides really aren't bad... reduced sex drive being the only side effect and maybe transient sensitivity in the nipples if you are prone to it.

So far we havnt had any complaints of increased hair loss, acne, elevated liver enzymes, bloat, ect...

-Eric
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Hey Eric. I recently picked up a few bottles of 1-T TREN and will be running it in the fall (currently pulsing oral 4-ad).

My question is, how is 1-T TREN on lipid values? I haven't seen anyone post bloodwork or data re: how HDL and LDL were impacted following a cycle. Thanks in advance.
 
Ninjo said:
Hey Eric. I recently picked up a few bottles of 1-T TREN and will be running it in the fall (currently pulsing oral 4-ad).

My question is, how is 1-T TREN on lipid values? I haven't seen anyone post bloodwork or data re: how HDL and LDL were impacted following a cycle. Thanks in advance.
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Ive never seen blood work on the 1-T TREN alone, but I do know that high androgens in general can lower HDL and raise LDL, so I would be supprised if levels are a little out of wack during the cycle. (expected to return to baseline within a month or so)

-Eric
 
Hey Eric,
I was thinking about buying some 1-T Tren for next cycle, and was wondering if Vitex is enough to prevent progestin related gyno for this? Also, I saw you mentioned the use of an AI to quell any progestin gyno issues instead of Tamoxifen. Just wondering so as to best plan my cycle.

Thanks
 
seanhammond71 said:
Hey Eric,
I was thinking about buying some 1-T Tren for next cycle, and was wondering if Vitex is enough to prevent progestin related gyno for this? Also, I saw you mentioned the use of an AI to quell any progestin gyno issues instead of Tamoxifen. Just wondering so as to best plan my cycle.

Thanks
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Vitex will reduce prolactin, which will reduce the overall load on mammary growth... which should prevent you from having any gyno related issues.

An AI is also an option. I think a SERM should be a last resort simply because of the toxicity associated with these compounds. Its best to only use them if you really need to.

Plus, even a day or two of nipple sensitivity or itchiness doesnt mean you "have gyno". Generally these symptoms will go away on their own after a few days.

I always advice 460mg/day vitex with 1-T TREN, and if sensitivity or itchy nipples persist for more than a few days I would bump the 1-T TREN dose down a bit until the problem goes away. (and possibly considering using an AI)

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Vitex will reduce prolactin, which will reduce the overall load on mammary growth... which should prevent you from having any gyno related issues.

An AI is also an option. I think a SERM should be a last resort simply because of the toxicity associated with these compounds. Its best to only use them if you really need to.

Plus, even a day or two of nipple sensitivity or itchiness doesnt mean you "have gyno". Generally these symptoms will go away on their own after a few days.

I always advice 460mg/day vitex with 1-T TREN, and if sensitivity or itchy nipples persist for more than a few days I would bump the 1-T TREN dose down a bit until the problem goes away. (and possibly considering using an AI)

-Eric
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I have a bottle of NOW Vitex...each capsule contains 300 mg Chaste Berry Tree (Vitex) Extract but it also contains 150 mg of something else called Dong Quai (Angelica sinensis). Would this be alright to use?

Also when you say that you always recommend vitex with 1-T TREN, do you mean even if no symptoms arise?
 
I plan on starting the 1-T Xtreme Hardcore Muscle Stack early next month. My biggest concern is my liver. Is it recommended that I take something to ensure my liver stays non-toxic? If so, what would you suggest?

Thank you

Alibaba
 
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Last day to take advantage of this great sale, everyone!!! :(
 
Eric,

I had a question about adverse levels of natural testosterone after years of PH use?
You hear about the bodybuilders that have natural test levels similar to that of 12 year girls and that must take syntheitic test the rest of their lives. I know they are really using extreme levels, but what do you think? A reference of my personal PH use (two(one-month cycles of 11-oxo[shut me down harder than any PH I've used), 3-AD(one month), 5 week 1-T(with Epistane 20 mg/day half way through). I've always done adequate pct and taken the the proper time off. I am really excited about trying your 1-T Tren, so I guess I was just curious. I know you're really busy and would just like to thank you for exceptional products and great customer service!

God Bless
 
One more question about 1-T Tren. I have a wife and daughter and am a little leary about getting them exposed to it. If I apply it early in the morning and have physical contact with them only in the evenings; do you think the product has worn off enough?
 
if you use HCG during your cycle and do a proper PCT with torem and extend if for a long time, as everyone should, coming off is a brrreeeeze. i think the risk of your transdermal rubbing off on your family after an hour or so is basically nothing.
 
Ninjo said:
I have a bottle of NOW Vitex...each capsule contains 300 mg Chaste Berry Tree (Vitex) Extract but it also contains 150 mg of something else called Dong Quai (Angelica sinensis). Would this be alright to use?

Also when you say that you always recommend vitex with 1-T TREN, do you mean even if no symptoms arise?
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I like to be on Vitex even before i get symptoms. I would try to find the vitex without the dong quai.

-Eric
 
alibaba007 said:
I plan on starting the 1-T Xtreme Hardcore Muscle Stack early next month. My biggest concern is my liver. Is it recommended that I take something to ensure my liver stays non-toxic? If so, what would you suggest?

Thank you

Alibaba
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Milk thistle is good stuff... but I wouldn't say you really need it with 1-T TREN.

-Eric
 
seanhammond71 said:
Eric,

I had a question about adverse levels of natural testosterone after years of PH use?
You hear about the bodybuilders that have natural test levels similar to that of 12 year girls and that must take syntheitic test the rest of their lives. I know they are really using extreme levels, but what do you think? A reference of my personal PH use (two(one-month cycles of 11-oxo[shut me down harder than any PH I've used), 3-AD(one month), 5 week 1-T(with Epistane 20 mg/day half way through). I've always done adequate pct and taken the the proper time off. I am really excited about trying your 1-T Tren, so I guess I was just curious. I know you're really busy and would just like to thank you for exceptional products and great customer service!

God Bless
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Sean, what was your question here?

-Eric
 
an1mal said:
this is prolly not a fair comparison

how does dermacrine compare to 4-AD TRANS or TEST?
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Most guys have compared 5 pumps of Dermacrine to 150mg/week test enanthate.

Compared to 4-AD, Id say its probably about half as potent overall per mg... but you would also have to consider what % rate you are getting in whatever topical you are using.

-Eric
 
seanhammond71 said:
One more question about 1-T Tren. I have a wife and daughter and am a little leary about getting them exposed to it. If I apply it early in the morning and have physical contact with them only in the evenings; do you think the product has worn off enough?
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Is your daughter an infant that shares the bed with you? If that is the case i would take a shower before going to bed just to be extra safe.

After having the TREN on for a whole day the risk to transfering to the wife is very slim, but babies have very permeable skin that sucks up chemicals very easily, so we recommend extra precaution with children under 3 years old.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
Sean, what was your question here?

-Eric
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I quess my question is, does natural test levels always come back to baseline (after cycle, PCT, and time off) or does it continually decrease with more hormones over time? I am assuming that a person follows all proper doses and proper pct and time off?

Sorry for the late response (on vacation)
 
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