Enter the Dragon: The Definitive 1-T Tren Log (Sponsored)
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Dragon13
Active member
05/20/09
SUPPS:
AI's Cycle Support added, as was Taurine.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
I believe the 1-TT is kicking in now. I hope to see some real solid WOs, starting with tonight's chest/back.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - This may finally be dropping a bit. Tough to say, but certainly not crushed like others have reported.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
I am self-checking this now with a cuff, and I'm not entirely sure how accurate it is, but it's probably in the ballpark. As mentioned, systolic 130 was my fail-safe point. Cycle Support added, next check 05/21. If BP has increased, I will move to daily monitoring.
3) AGGRESSION - Starting to suspect I have a bit of a shorter fuse.
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - None. Very happy with this, my enormous support supp arsenal seems to be doing the trick.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Maybe starting to see a little. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
I can say that lethargy has subsided quite a bit. I really don't notice it anymore. I also think that maybe this is being helped indirectly by the 1-carboxy. Sometime in week 2 of using that, I started sleeping like a dead man. So I think it has helped sleep quality, which may be helping with the lethargy, and to top it all off I'm taking it for prolactin control! Nice synergisitc benefits there.
Sweating is still high, though maybe tapering off a tad (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None - off day.
None, family thing in the evening. Cardio has been lacking, will get some done after chest/back WO.
THOUGHTS:
BP check today, and back to working out, 3 straight days. I am getting pretty excited for these 3, it seems the 1-TT is kicking in solid now, I'm hoping to move some nice weight. I can't decide if I want to do a regular flat bench WO or use an accessory lift as my main, maybe rack lockouts or floor press. I also may switch things up and run some Yates rows... decisions decisions.
In fact, as I sit here thinking about it, I think I will do low rack lockouts to start, probably 6x3 to compare to my putrid RL WO a week+ ago, then use flat bench wave-loaded segments for exercise #2, 3x8 (3 and 5 segments).
Go time! :AR15firing:
Day 17
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
AI's Cycle Support added, as was Taurine.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
I believe the 1-TT is kicking in now. I hope to see some real solid WOs, starting with tonight's chest/back.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - This may finally be dropping a bit. Tough to say, but certainly not crushed like others have reported.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
I am self-checking this now with a cuff, and I'm not entirely sure how accurate it is, but it's probably in the ballpark. As mentioned, systolic 130 was my fail-safe point. Cycle Support added, next check 05/21. If BP has increased, I will move to daily monitoring.
3) AGGRESSION - Starting to suspect I have a bit of a shorter fuse.
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - None. Very happy with this, my enormous support supp arsenal seems to be doing the trick.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Maybe starting to see a little. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
I can say that lethargy has subsided quite a bit. I really don't notice it anymore. I also think that maybe this is being helped indirectly by the 1-carboxy. Sometime in week 2 of using that, I started sleeping like a dead man. So I think it has helped sleep quality, which may be helping with the lethargy, and to top it all off I'm taking it for prolactin control! Nice synergisitc benefits there.
Sweating is still high, though maybe tapering off a tad (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None - off day.
CARDIO
None, family thing in the evening. Cardio has been lacking, will get some done after chest/back WO.
THOUGHTS:
BP check today, and back to working out, 3 straight days. I am getting pretty excited for these 3, it seems the 1-TT is kicking in solid now, I'm hoping to move some nice weight. I can't decide if I want to do a regular flat bench WO or use an accessory lift as my main, maybe rack lockouts or floor press. I also may switch things up and run some Yates rows... decisions decisions.
In fact, as I sit here thinking about it, I think I will do low rack lockouts to start, probably 6x3 to compare to my putrid RL WO a week+ ago, then use flat bench wave-loaded segments for exercise #2, 3x8 (3 and 5 segments).
Go time! :AR15firing:
spiderduncan
Active member
Subscribed. Reps for the detail (tried, but I guess I have to spread it around a bit more...).
Dragon13
Active member
Update
... or lack thereof. I was without the internet at home starting last Saturday (and through the week intil ISP gets here - scheduled for Sunday), and swince I took Friday off, I haven't been able to get on for a while. Hence my lack of updates. However, I'll get caught up this week, but this is also an FYI for next weekend, as I likely won't have access then either.
@ Jotan - hair loss really isn't too bad at all, not noticeable in the least by looking at my head, if that's what you mean. It was like 8-10 hairs on the pillow in the AM when I woke up for the first week or so, now it's more like 5-7.
... or lack thereof. I was without the internet at home starting last Saturday (and through the week intil ISP gets here - scheduled for Sunday), and swince I took Friday off, I haven't been able to get on for a while. Hence my lack of updates. However, I'll get caught up this week, but this is also an FYI for next weekend, as I likely won't have access then either.
@ Jotan - hair loss really isn't too bad at all, not noticeable in the least by looking at my head, if that's what you mean. It was like 8-10 hairs on the pillow in the AM when I woke up for the first week or so, now it's more like 5-7.
Dragon13
Active member
05/21/09
SUPPS:
Added in a second cap of Reversitol in the AM to deal with some potential E/gyno issues. See below.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
The 1-TT is definitely kicking in now! Solid strength increases so far. See below.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and ATD is Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
3) AGGRESSION - Starting to suspect I have a bit of a shorter fuse.
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Nips started getting just a bit tingly. Taking no chances, I added in another cap of Reversitol in the AM. Went away quickly.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Chest/back.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Rack lockouts (9-pins, low): 6x3 295x3 315x3 335x3 355x3 385x3 405x1
T-bar rope rows: 6x4 135x4 160x4 180x4 205x4 230x4 270x3x1
Bench (wave-loaded segements): 3x8 (3,5) 315-275x8 325-275x9 (4,5) 335-275x8 (3,5)
Yates rows: 3x6 225x6 250x6 275x6
DB decline: 110x10 120x8 120x8 SS w/ -
Lat pulls (horizontal): 170x10 190x8
Face pulls: 160x8 170x6
Brief 15-minute session, that's all I had time for.
THOUGHTS:
Great WO! Definite improvement from last time on rack lockouts. Barely got the 3rd rep at 385, but got it; as you'll recall I had a horrific WO with these last time (a few days into the cycle), and only got 1 rep. Rows were very good in all forms. Muscular endurance was noticeably higher, I didn't ever really get tired. The wave-loaded bench was too easy as you can see, added a rep and more weight in set 2, and more weight again for set 3 and it still wasn't tough. :biggthumpup: Great WO.
Leg day followed this, update to come...
Day 18
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
Added in a second cap of Reversitol in the AM to deal with some potential E/gyno issues. See below.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
The 1-TT is definitely kicking in now! Solid strength increases so far. See below.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and ATD is Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
3) AGGRESSION - Starting to suspect I have a bit of a shorter fuse.
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Nips started getting just a bit tingly. Taking no chances, I added in another cap of Reversitol in the AM. Went away quickly.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Chest/back.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Rack lockouts (9-pins, low): 6x3 295x3 315x3 335x3 355x3 385x3 405x1
T-bar rope rows: 6x4 135x4 160x4 180x4 205x4 230x4 270x3x1
Bench (wave-loaded segements): 3x8 (3,5) 315-275x8 325-275x9 (4,5) 335-275x8 (3,5)
Yates rows: 3x6 225x6 250x6 275x6
DB decline: 110x10 120x8 120x8 SS w/ -
Lat pulls (horizontal): 170x10 190x8
Face pulls: 160x8 170x6
CARDIO
Brief 15-minute session, that's all I had time for.
THOUGHTS:
Great WO! Definite improvement from last time on rack lockouts. Barely got the 3rd rep at 385, but got it; as you'll recall I had a horrific WO with these last time (a few days into the cycle), and only got 1 rep. Rows were very good in all forms. Muscular endurance was noticeably higher, I didn't ever really get tired. The wave-loaded bench was too easy as you can see, added a rep and more weight in set 2, and more weight again for set 3 and it still wasn't tough. :biggthumpup: Great WO.
Leg day followed this, update to come...
Dragon13
Active member
05/22/09
SUPPS:
Added in a second cap of Reversitol in the AM to deal with some potential E/gyno issues.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
The 1-TT is definitely kicking in now, although it wasn't indicative of this WO.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and ATD is Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
3) AGGRESSION - Starting to suspect I have a bit of a shorter fuse.
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Nips started getting just a bit tingly. Taking no chances, I added in another cap of Reversitol in the AM. Went away quickly.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Lower body/legs (squat day)
10-15 minute warm-up.
Squat: 315x10 365x10 405x8
RDL: 315x8 335x6 365x5
Leg extension: 180x10 200x9
Leg curls: 120x10 120x8
None.
THOUGHTS:
Ehhh, pretty crappy day. Had a long night on Thursday, did a fair bit of manual labor Friday, and by the time gym time rolled around, I was shot. Kept it quick, was happy enough with the session, but I certainly didn't up the weight or anything. Sometimes life just gets in the way. Oh well, in the past, I will focus on getting a great squat sesison next time it comes around.
More updates coming...
Day 19
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
Added in a second cap of Reversitol in the AM to deal with some potential E/gyno issues.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
The 1-TT is definitely kicking in now, although it wasn't indicative of this WO.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and ATD is Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
3) AGGRESSION - Starting to suspect I have a bit of a shorter fuse.
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Nips started getting just a bit tingly. Taking no chances, I added in another cap of Reversitol in the AM. Went away quickly.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Lower body/legs (squat day)
10-15 minute warm-up.
Squat: 315x10 365x10 405x8
RDL: 315x8 335x6 365x5
Leg extension: 180x10 200x9
Leg curls: 120x10 120x8
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
Ehhh, pretty crappy day. Had a long night on Thursday, did a fair bit of manual labor Friday, and by the time gym time rolled around, I was shot. Kept it quick, was happy enough with the session, but I certainly didn't up the weight or anything. Sometimes life just gets in the way. Oh well, in the past, I will focus on getting a great squat sesison next time it comes around.
More updates coming...
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
I am enjoying the log as well Dragon. Keep busting your ass and good luck with the puffiness.
Dragon13
Active member
Great to hear the strength is kicking in. You're doing a great job with the log, dragon. Keep it up!
Thanks man, more very good news re: gains on the way. I can say now that the 1-TT is definitely more potent than regular 1-T, as it's supposed to be. Details will be in the updates.
Thanks Silver, there was very little to it, but as you know I err on the side of caution. Adding the 2nd cap of Reversitol cleared it up immediately.
Dragon13
Active member
05/23/09
SUPPS:
Added in a second cap of Reversitol in the AM to deal with some potential E/gyno issues. Cleared them up right away.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
Another great WO, the 1-TT is the real deal IMO.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
3) AGGRESSION - Updating this, I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Nips started getting just a bit tingly; 2nd cap of Reversitol in the AM cured this immediately and I will continue this protocol through the rest of the run.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine. ACNE- I'm not sure when this cropped up, but Saturday was the first day I kind of went, Holy **** I have some body acne. My wife noticed it first, she said there were zits "all over" my back. Upon inspection, there were maaaaybe 5 or 6 back zits, small but noticeable, not acne "all over" my back. I then also noticed the acne on my upper arms and forearms. Again, not much at all, and small, but noticeable when you look for it. Clearly, with the shedding and the acne, the 1-TT is binding fairly well to the AR. This stuff appears to be the real deal.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Shoulders/arms.
10-minute warm-up.
I only had about an hour total for this WO, so I kept if brief but intense.
Standing military: 135x8 155x5 185x5 205x5 225x5; 185x8(BO)
CGB: 225x8 275x6 295x5 315x4x1 SS w/ -
DB board curls: 50x8 50x8
DB hammer curls: 60x8 65x8
Lateral raises: 20x8 25x8 (pre-exhaust) SS w/ -
1-arm neutral-grip standing DB military: 60x10 70x10
V-bar tricep PD (3-1-3): 190x10 190x10 SS w/ -
Dips: BWx15 BWx13
Barbell preacher curls: 85x10 95x10 SS w/ -
DB concentration curls: 30x12 30x11 - failure
Lots of yard work and a 20-25 minute walk prior to this WO.
THOUGHTS:
This is what I'm talking about, and what I love about being on when the product kicks in. Every time you hit the gym (excluding days when I get no sleep, like the previous day), it's a great WO. No off days, no days where you just try and push through - it's progress each and every time. Standing mil went great, first time with 225 since February (for various reasons), and CGB improved as well, I believe my top-end set last time was with 295.
I used the lateral raises to fire up my delts first, then went right into a 1-arm 10-repper on DB military. Shoulders were burning after these. Ditto my tris after super-setting push downs and dips for high reps, and my bis supering (is that a word?) the preachers and DB concentration curls. I had a wicked pump throughout my arms and delts leaving the gym - sweet.
Next 2 days were scheduled off days, update will be up soon.
Day 20
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
Added in a second cap of Reversitol in the AM to deal with some potential E/gyno issues. Cleared them up right away.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
Another great WO, the 1-TT is the real deal IMO.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
3) AGGRESSION - Updating this, I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Nips started getting just a bit tingly; 2nd cap of Reversitol in the AM cured this immediately and I will continue this protocol through the rest of the run.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine. ACNE- I'm not sure when this cropped up, but Saturday was the first day I kind of went, Holy **** I have some body acne. My wife noticed it first, she said there were zits "all over" my back. Upon inspection, there were maaaaybe 5 or 6 back zits, small but noticeable, not acne "all over" my back. I then also noticed the acne on my upper arms and forearms. Again, not much at all, and small, but noticeable when you look for it. Clearly, with the shedding and the acne, the 1-TT is binding fairly well to the AR. This stuff appears to be the real deal.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Shoulders/arms.
10-minute warm-up.
I only had about an hour total for this WO, so I kept if brief but intense.
Standing military: 135x8 155x5 185x5 205x5 225x5; 185x8(BO)
CGB: 225x8 275x6 295x5 315x4x1 SS w/ -
DB board curls: 50x8 50x8
DB hammer curls: 60x8 65x8
Lateral raises: 20x8 25x8 (pre-exhaust) SS w/ -
1-arm neutral-grip standing DB military: 60x10 70x10
V-bar tricep PD (3-1-3): 190x10 190x10 SS w/ -
Dips: BWx15 BWx13
Barbell preacher curls: 85x10 95x10 SS w/ -
DB concentration curls: 30x12 30x11 - failure
CARDIO
Lots of yard work and a 20-25 minute walk prior to this WO.
THOUGHTS:
This is what I'm talking about, and what I love about being on when the product kicks in. Every time you hit the gym (excluding days when I get no sleep, like the previous day), it's a great WO. No off days, no days where you just try and push through - it's progress each and every time. Standing mil went great, first time with 225 since February (for various reasons), and CGB improved as well, I believe my top-end set last time was with 295.
I used the lateral raises to fire up my delts first, then went right into a 1-arm 10-repper on DB military. Shoulders were burning after these. Ditto my tris after super-setting push downs and dips for high reps, and my bis supering (is that a word?) the preachers and DB concentration curls. I had a wicked pump throughout my arms and delts leaving the gym - sweet.
Next 2 days were scheduled off days, update will be up soon.
Dragon13
Active member
05/24/09 & 05/25/09
SUPPS:
All the same as has been updated.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
Another great WO, the 1-TT is the real deal IMO.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check: (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine. ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. Mild but noticeable.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None, 2 scheduled off days.
Day 1 - AM softball game counted as my cardio.
Day 2 - 20-minute walk + more yard work (my yard needs lots of work as you can see).
THOUGHTS:
I forgot to weigh myself Monday, I think the day off for Memorial Day threw me off. I will include the weigh-in with my Tuesday (05/26) update, as that's when I weighed myself. Nothing much to report here, although... I had another great session last night and I will get that update soon (if not today then tomorrow for sure).
Happy belated Memorial Day to everyone! :usaribbon: :usa1: :unitedstates:
Days 21 and 22
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same as has been updated.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5).
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
Another great WO, the 1-TT is the real deal IMO.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check: (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine. ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. Mild but noticeable.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None, 2 scheduled off days.
CARDIO
Day 1 - AM softball game counted as my cardio.
Day 2 - 20-minute walk + more yard work (my yard needs lots of work as you can see).
THOUGHTS:
I forgot to weigh myself Monday, I think the day off for Memorial Day threw me off. I will include the weigh-in with my Tuesday (05/26) update, as that's when I weighed myself. Nothing much to report here, although... I had another great session last night and I will get that update soon (if not today then tomorrow for sure).
Happy belated Memorial Day to everyone! :usaribbon: :usa1: :unitedstates:
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Member
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Dragon13
Active member
Not really, to be honest. I really like PP's products, and I'm sure SA works off-cycle... but I have my doubts about it working as an hCG alternative. So far the only bloodwork I've seen from on-cycle testing came back worse than before the SA began. Eric has mentioned there are many other tests going on, but I've yet to see the bloodwork results posted anywhere. Until I do I won't be using it.
Dragon13
Active member
05/26/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
Looks like some weight gain is kicking in now. FWIW the diet slacked considerably over my long Memorial Day weekend, as in I was probably above maintenance even on non-WO days. Gotta eat to grow, though, so maybe it didn't all go to the wrong places.
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal IMO. See below.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check: (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine. ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. Mild but noticeable.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Chest/back.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Bench: 8x3 245x3 275x3 315x3 315x3 335x3 335x3 350x3 365x2
Seated row: 8x3 200x3 220x3 240x3 260x3 260x3 280x3 280x3 300x3
DB incline: 100x10 100x10 100x10 SS w/ -
Pull-ups: BWx10 (wide grip) BWx10 (normal) BWx10 (chins)
HS decline (paused): 320x6 360x6 430x6 SS w/ -
DB row: 120x6 120x6 120x6
Face pulls: 180x8
None.
THOUGHTS:
Missed the last rep at 365 on bench, but after 7 sets (3 of them heavy enough to call work sets), that's OK. I'm pretty certain I can get 3 (maybe 4?) fresh. Seated rows were strong too, 280 (which is usually a bitch for 4 or 5 reps on a final set) was, well, easy for 2 sets of 3. 300 was still heavy though, but all 3 reps were solid.
The big mover was DB incline. I think I went 10-9-8 or something like that last time I ran a 3x10 on this exercise. This time I hit all 30 reps, smooth and clean. The last rep or 2 was still hard, I had a real nice pump going, but again, quantitative improvement is being seen. Again, I also powered through the whole thing without ever getting too fatigued muscularly. I'm really liking this run so far and... I still have 2+ weeks to go! :hump:
Day 23
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
Looks like some weight gain is kicking in now. FWIW the diet slacked considerably over my long Memorial Day weekend, as in I was probably above maintenance even on non-WO days. Gotta eat to grow, though, so maybe it didn't all go to the wrong places.
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal IMO. See below.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check: (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine. ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. Mild but noticeable.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Chest/back.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Bench: 8x3 245x3 275x3 315x3 315x3 335x3 335x3 350x3 365x2
Seated row: 8x3 200x3 220x3 240x3 260x3 260x3 280x3 280x3 300x3
DB incline: 100x10 100x10 100x10 SS w/ -
Pull-ups: BWx10 (wide grip) BWx10 (normal) BWx10 (chins)
HS decline (paused): 320x6 360x6 430x6 SS w/ -
DB row: 120x6 120x6 120x6
Face pulls: 180x8
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
Missed the last rep at 365 on bench, but after 7 sets (3 of them heavy enough to call work sets), that's OK. I'm pretty certain I can get 3 (maybe 4?) fresh. Seated rows were strong too, 280 (which is usually a bitch for 4 or 5 reps on a final set) was, well, easy for 2 sets of 3. 300 was still heavy though, but all 3 reps were solid.
The big mover was DB incline. I think I went 10-9-8 or something like that last time I ran a 3x10 on this exercise. This time I hit all 30 reps, smooth and clean. The last rep or 2 was still hard, I had a real nice pump going, but again, quantitative improvement is being seen. Again, I also powered through the whole thing without ever getting too fatigued muscularly. I'm really liking this run so far and... I still have 2+ weeks to go! :hump:
Jotan
New member
Hey, I'm literally about to order 1-t tren and the trs stack, after reading the articles on PP I thought that hCG wasn't required on cycle if the cycle is less than 6 weeks and that SA/trs stack was lab tested and worked???
Dragon13
Active member
Lab tested? If it is I'd love to see some test results. I haven't been able to find any bloodwork results other than the one I referred to.
Dragon13
Active member
05/27/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal IMO.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check: (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine. ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. Mild but noticeable.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None. This was supposed to be Lower/deadlift day, but I bumped everything back, and changed the WO, for a few reasons.
1) I had a family thing Wednesday night, so rather than start a heavy lower body day at 10:00 at night, I bumped everything back a day. This works out OK because my normal 2 rest days would have been Friday and Saturday, and then with my Sundays off rule I'd have 3 straight days. Rather than go that route, I opted for an extra recovery day here, and will hit lower body on Thursday (ysterday) and shoulders/arms tonight (Friday). Then Saturday and Sunday off, and back into the split. Works out great, and the extra rest up front means I might hit some speed bench work on Friday as well.
2) The LB day was supposed to be a deadlift day, but since I'm unhappy with my last squat WO, and my dead seems to be doing well, I'm doubling up on squats and will attempt to do a whole lot better than last time (I did, updating soon).
None.
THOUGHTS:
So no WO, but I squatted last night, and that update should be up soon.
Day 24
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal IMO.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check: (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps being negated thanks to taurine. ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. Mild but noticeable.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None. This was supposed to be Lower/deadlift day, but I bumped everything back, and changed the WO, for a few reasons.
1) I had a family thing Wednesday night, so rather than start a heavy lower body day at 10:00 at night, I bumped everything back a day. This works out OK because my normal 2 rest days would have been Friday and Saturday, and then with my Sundays off rule I'd have 3 straight days. Rather than go that route, I opted for an extra recovery day here, and will hit lower body on Thursday (ysterday) and shoulders/arms tonight (Friday). Then Saturday and Sunday off, and back into the split. Works out great, and the extra rest up front means I might hit some speed bench work on Friday as well.
2) The LB day was supposed to be a deadlift day, but since I'm unhappy with my last squat WO, and my dead seems to be doing well, I'm doubling up on squats and will attempt to do a whole lot better than last time (I did, updating soon).
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
So no WO, but I squatted last night, and that update should be up soon.
Dragon13
Active member
05/28/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal IMO.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29):
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps came back - damn! See below. I believe I may have adapted to the taurine and will up the dose. ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. It seems to be clearing up now for the most part, however.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Lower body/squat.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Squat: 275x8 315x10 365x8 405x8 435x6; 315x10(BO,ATG)
RDL: 315x8 365x8 (back pumps; see below)
Rear barbell shrug: 315x10 365x10 - Barbell shrug: 405x8 455x6
Leg extension: 180x10 200x10; 140x7(BO) SS w/ -
Leg curl: 110x10 120x10; 80x8(BO)
None.
THOUGHTS:
Excellent WO except for the RDLs, I had to cut them off at 2 sets b/c the dreaded back pump came back hard. I will up my taurine to 1.5-2 g/day. Anyway, my legs were flat-out blasted at the end of this one. The drop sets on the leg extensions/curls left me barely able to walk. I can't remember the last time I pumped up my legs like this. It was pretty sweet. Great WO, I will drop the rep scheme next time out, maybe top off with a 4-5 rep set.
Also, reminder that I won't have the interne un til at least Sunday, so I probably will not get another update until Monday. Shoulders/arms tonight, have a great weekend everybody!
Day 24
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal IMO.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Starting to see libido move even lower. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29):
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps came back - damn! See below. I believe I may have adapted to the taurine and will up the dose. ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. It seems to be clearing up now for the most part, however.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Lower body/squat.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Squat: 275x8 315x10 365x8 405x8 435x6; 315x10(BO,ATG)
RDL: 315x8 365x8 (back pumps; see below)
Rear barbell shrug: 315x10 365x10 - Barbell shrug: 405x8 455x6
Leg extension: 180x10 200x10; 140x7(BO) SS w/ -
Leg curl: 110x10 120x10; 80x8(BO)
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
Excellent WO except for the RDLs, I had to cut them off at 2 sets b/c the dreaded back pump came back hard. I will up my taurine to 1.5-2 g/day. Anyway, my legs were flat-out blasted at the end of this one. The drop sets on the leg extensions/curls left me barely able to walk. I can't remember the last time I pumped up my legs like this. It was pretty sweet. Great WO, I will drop the rep scheme next time out, maybe top off with a 4-5 rep set.
Also, reminder that I won't have the interne un til at least Sunday, so I probably will not get another update until Monday. Shoulders/arms tonight, have a great weekend everybody!
Dragon13
Active member
To prevent shutdown... there are none as far as I know, other than hCG.
For libido - I'm not sure, I'm probably not the guy to ask about that, as I expected a shot libido from this compound anyway, and ATD probably exacerbates it. It's OK though, the wife is preggers, so it's not like I'm missing out. :laughing:
The reversitol is there strictly to help control E. If you feel an on-cycle AI is warranted as I do, and are concerned about killing off libido, a 6-Bromo AI only should work better in that regard.
Dragon13
Active member
05/29/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal IMO.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps, hopefully added taurine will help.
ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. It seems to be clearing up now for the most part, however.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Shoulders/arms
10-15 minute warm-up.
DB military: 75x6 85x5 90x5 95x6 100x5; 65x8(BO)
1-arm DB neutral-grip tri press: 120x6 120x6 120x6 SS w/ -
DB curls: 55x8 60x8
1-arm DB curls: 50x6 50x6
Neutral-grip DB military: 65x10 75x10
V-bar tri PD: 190x10 190x10 SS w/ -
Dips (2-1-2): BWx12 BWx12
Rope hammer curls: 80x8 80x8
Assorted Rear rotator work...
1-arm rope kickbacks: 90x10 90x10 SS w/ -
Donkey curls: 40x10 40x10; DB curls: 30x12(BO)
None.
THOUGHTS:
Good WO, started off very strong but I kind of started dragging ass mid-way through. I sort of hit the proverbial wall, and I really had to focus mentally to push through, but it all came out OK in the end. I also ended up doing a bunch of 1-arm iso work for some reason. Anyway, very happy with the military and DB tricep presses, so it was a good WO.
Weekend was off, updating soon.
Day 25
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal IMO.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
3) AGGRESSION - I don't really seem to notice any more increased aggression. Maybe it was a short-term thing?
4) HAIR LOSS - Shedding very mild now, but still present.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Definitely some shrinkage now. Watching...
7) MISC. - Back pumps, hopefully added taurine will help.
ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. It seems to be clearing up now for the most part, however.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Shoulders/arms
10-15 minute warm-up.
DB military: 75x6 85x5 90x5 95x6 100x5; 65x8(BO)
1-arm DB neutral-grip tri press: 120x6 120x6 120x6 SS w/ -
DB curls: 55x8 60x8
1-arm DB curls: 50x6 50x6
Neutral-grip DB military: 65x10 75x10
V-bar tri PD: 190x10 190x10 SS w/ -
Dips (2-1-2): BWx12 BWx12
Rope hammer curls: 80x8 80x8
Assorted Rear rotator work...
1-arm rope kickbacks: 90x10 90x10 SS w/ -
Donkey curls: 40x10 40x10; DB curls: 30x12(BO)
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
Good WO, started off very strong but I kind of started dragging ass mid-way through. I sort of hit the proverbial wall, and I really had to focus mentally to push through, but it all came out OK in the end. I also ended up doing a bunch of 1-arm iso work for some reason. Anyway, very happy with the military and DB tricep presses, so it was a good WO.
Weekend was off, updating soon.
Dragon13
Active member
I really couldn't say, as I've never used any individual 6-bromo products.
Dragon13
Active member
05/30/09 - 05/31/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal so far, IMO.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, hopefully added taurine will help.
ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. It is mostly cleared up now, however.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None - 2 scheduled off days.
Saturday - 25-minute fasted AM cardio + 4 hours of manual labor in the yard (long day).
Sunday - helped a friend move out. Not really cardio, but was out and active.
THOUGHTS:
Lots of physical activity this weekend, and diet ended up being spotty (had to eat out a few times).
RECOMP UPDATE - as I hit the 4-week mark, my recomp goal is not really going as well as I had hoped. Now, much of that (if not all of it) is my fault, as finding time after my WOs to get my cardio in is very difficult, and I only have time to do it in the AM once in a while. Plus, my diet has been only OK; I have adhered to the maintenace + on WO days and the maintence - on non-WO days plan for the most part, but the weekends and family outings etc have bit me in the ass a bit, so to speak. As I wasn't really dieting, I didn't restrict myself in these situations. Now, I will say this - my best WOs, and the biggest scale weight jump, seemed to come following periods of maintenace + eating on the weekends (at least 1 day). You have to eat to grow. My goal was to allow the maintence - days, plus the inherent fat-burning properties of the compound, to hopefully shed some BF while gaining muscle.
To date, the resutls have been a mixed bag. I think I foolishly placed too much stock in the thermic effects of the 1-TT, kind of assuming fat loss would just happen, even though I veered off the maintenance - plan on a few weekends, and my sub-maintence calorie days, were, in effect, reduced to about 2-3 per week. Now, don't get me wrong, it did; at the end of the 2 off days in my split, I usually could see noticeable differences re: fat loss. But the fat-loss effects are not those of trenbolone (in so much as I have read about). Despite the personal evidence that dienelone binds at least moderately strongly to the AR (acne, hair loss, etc), it isn't quite giving tren-like results. I think it is a moderately strong anabolic when compared to all available, and probably a very strong anabolic compared to everything legally available, but again - it's not tren. I haven't experienced any of the commonly reported sides of tren - night sweats, insomnia, vastly reduced aerobic capaicty, etc. Quite frankly, I almost think it may be closer to nandrolone than tren; slow quality gains, joint protection (my bad elbows have been great, althgough I'm not sure if that's fully or partially attributable to the compound or the large fish oil doses I am taking), strong shutdown, etc.
So where does this leave me? I'm happy enough with the gains and the fat loss (or fat gain prevention), but not ecstatic with either. This is exactly why I have always been anti-recomp, and I am fully aware much of it is my own fault, but on the flip side, assuming I had been very strict on all off days - would my gains have been what they are? I tend to think not. So I have a decision to make for these last 2 weeks (which as I type have already started). I can either:
A) forget about recomping and train and eat to grow. Whenever I have taken a hormonal product, this has always been my approach, as I believe the stress you put on your body isn't worth it unless you absolutely maximize every ounce of muscle growth out of each and every cycle. I was hopeful 1-TT would be strong enough to allow the above while also allowing me to lose fat. I don't think it's quite that strong, hell maybe my expectations were unrealisitc, as I've never used real trenbolone and have only read about it's effects after the fact. But some mucle growth with even zero fat gain, while in reality fantastic results, isn't a recomp, at least not one that I had in mind.
B) be happy with the 5-odd lbs I've added and look to cut. This option, at least, may leave me with the desired end result: muscle gain + fat loss.
C) continue the original plan (and a bit stricter, as no family outings/holidays are planned for the next several weekends), and recomp with + maintenance kcals on training days, and - maintenance kcals on non-training days.
- One other thing to note: if I choose B or C, I plan on altering my WOs too, gearing them more towards fat loss, which will also mean they will be done quicker, allowing me time for post-WO cardio.
I absolutely hate not sticking with an original plan, but I'm at a point where if the cycle ends, and I'm maybe +5-6 lbs and lost maybe a lb or 2 of fat, I may not be completely happy with the cycle. So I'm leaning towards scrapping C, as much as it pains me, and going either A or B. In fact, I'm leaning towards B (more on this in the next update).
I've mulled this over a while, and I'll decide one way or the other today. Opinions are welcome.
Days 26 & 27
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT is the real deal so far, IMO.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, hopefully added taurine will help.
ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. It is mostly cleared up now, however.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None - 2 scheduled off days.
CARDIO
Saturday - 25-minute fasted AM cardio + 4 hours of manual labor in the yard (long day).
Sunday - helped a friend move out. Not really cardio, but was out and active.
THOUGHTS:
Lots of physical activity this weekend, and diet ended up being spotty (had to eat out a few times).
RECOMP UPDATE - as I hit the 4-week mark, my recomp goal is not really going as well as I had hoped. Now, much of that (if not all of it) is my fault, as finding time after my WOs to get my cardio in is very difficult, and I only have time to do it in the AM once in a while. Plus, my diet has been only OK; I have adhered to the maintenace + on WO days and the maintence - on non-WO days plan for the most part, but the weekends and family outings etc have bit me in the ass a bit, so to speak. As I wasn't really dieting, I didn't restrict myself in these situations. Now, I will say this - my best WOs, and the biggest scale weight jump, seemed to come following periods of maintenace + eating on the weekends (at least 1 day). You have to eat to grow. My goal was to allow the maintence - days, plus the inherent fat-burning properties of the compound, to hopefully shed some BF while gaining muscle.
To date, the resutls have been a mixed bag. I think I foolishly placed too much stock in the thermic effects of the 1-TT, kind of assuming fat loss would just happen, even though I veered off the maintenance - plan on a few weekends, and my sub-maintence calorie days, were, in effect, reduced to about 2-3 per week. Now, don't get me wrong, it did; at the end of the 2 off days in my split, I usually could see noticeable differences re: fat loss. But the fat-loss effects are not those of trenbolone (in so much as I have read about). Despite the personal evidence that dienelone binds at least moderately strongly to the AR (acne, hair loss, etc), it isn't quite giving tren-like results. I think it is a moderately strong anabolic when compared to all available, and probably a very strong anabolic compared to everything legally available, but again - it's not tren. I haven't experienced any of the commonly reported sides of tren - night sweats, insomnia, vastly reduced aerobic capaicty, etc. Quite frankly, I almost think it may be closer to nandrolone than tren; slow quality gains, joint protection (my bad elbows have been great, althgough I'm not sure if that's fully or partially attributable to the compound or the large fish oil doses I am taking), strong shutdown, etc.
So where does this leave me? I'm happy enough with the gains and the fat loss (or fat gain prevention), but not ecstatic with either. This is exactly why I have always been anti-recomp, and I am fully aware much of it is my own fault, but on the flip side, assuming I had been very strict on all off days - would my gains have been what they are? I tend to think not. So I have a decision to make for these last 2 weeks (which as I type have already started). I can either:
A) forget about recomping and train and eat to grow. Whenever I have taken a hormonal product, this has always been my approach, as I believe the stress you put on your body isn't worth it unless you absolutely maximize every ounce of muscle growth out of each and every cycle. I was hopeful 1-TT would be strong enough to allow the above while also allowing me to lose fat. I don't think it's quite that strong, hell maybe my expectations were unrealisitc, as I've never used real trenbolone and have only read about it's effects after the fact. But some mucle growth with even zero fat gain, while in reality fantastic results, isn't a recomp, at least not one that I had in mind.
B) be happy with the 5-odd lbs I've added and look to cut. This option, at least, may leave me with the desired end result: muscle gain + fat loss.
C) continue the original plan (and a bit stricter, as no family outings/holidays are planned for the next several weekends), and recomp with + maintenance kcals on training days, and - maintenance kcals on non-training days.
- One other thing to note: if I choose B or C, I plan on altering my WOs too, gearing them more towards fat loss, which will also mean they will be done quicker, allowing me time for post-WO cardio.
I absolutely hate not sticking with an original plan, but I'm at a point where if the cycle ends, and I'm maybe +5-6 lbs and lost maybe a lb or 2 of fat, I may not be completely happy with the cycle. So I'm leaning towards scrapping C, as much as it pains me, and going either A or B. In fact, I'm leaning towards B (more on this in the next update).
I've mulled this over a while, and I'll decide one way or the other today. Opinions are welcome.
Dragon13
Active member
06/01/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
I've maintained 1-TT is the real deal so far, yet this day's WO was disappointing. See below.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, hopefully added taurine will help.
ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. It is mostly cleared up now, however.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Chest/back.
10-15 minute warm-up.
3-board: 275x6 315x5 335x4 355x3 375x2 - ****.
Rows: 205x6 225x5 245x4 265x4 275x4
Rack lockouts (on low bench) (9-slot, high): 315x5 335x4 365x3 385x2
Pull-ups (2-1-2): BWx8(wide) BWx8(neutral) BWx8(chins)
DB decline: 100x12 100x12 100x12 SS w/ -
Cybex rows: 150x12(wide) 150x12(neutral) 160x12(wide)
- Minimal rest between super-sets, this was a burner
None.
THOUGHTS:
Kind of a shitty WO, expected to hit 375x3 on the 3-board and maybe work up to 385-390x2. This, coupled with my weigh-in being down a lb from last week, led me to pen the missive that is my last post. Anyway, rack lockouts were only OK too, and as this was a "high" rack lockout (although I am using a different bench and it's not as high a set point as I used to use, by maybe 1/2 an inch or more), I think I need more tricep work, lockouts shouldn't lag this much. Time to hit up some floor press and focus on heavy tri work. Also, I'll incorporate more speed bench work this week.
On the bright side, rows and pull-ups were pretty strong. This seems to be a theme with me - whenever my pressing sucks, my back is strong, and vice versa. Pull-ups were full extension (dead hang), 2-1-2 tempo. Threw in an extra rep on my last set of rows too. Good day here at least.
Day 28
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
I've maintained 1-TT is the real deal so far, yet this day's WO was disappointing. See below.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. May be a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, hopefully added taurine will help.
ACNE- As updated last time, body acne is present. It is mostly cleared up now, however.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Chest/back.
10-15 minute warm-up.
3-board: 275x6 315x5 335x4 355x3 375x2 - ****.
Rows: 205x6 225x5 245x4 265x4 275x4
Rack lockouts (on low bench) (9-slot, high): 315x5 335x4 365x3 385x2
Pull-ups (2-1-2): BWx8(wide) BWx8(neutral) BWx8(chins)
DB decline: 100x12 100x12 100x12 SS w/ -
Cybex rows: 150x12(wide) 150x12(neutral) 160x12(wide)
- Minimal rest between super-sets, this was a burner
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
Kind of a shitty WO, expected to hit 375x3 on the 3-board and maybe work up to 385-390x2. This, coupled with my weigh-in being down a lb from last week, led me to pen the missive that is my last post. Anyway, rack lockouts were only OK too, and as this was a "high" rack lockout (although I am using a different bench and it's not as high a set point as I used to use, by maybe 1/2 an inch or more), I think I need more tricep work, lockouts shouldn't lag this much. Time to hit up some floor press and focus on heavy tri work. Also, I'll incorporate more speed bench work this week.
On the bright side, rows and pull-ups were pretty strong. This seems to be a theme with me - whenever my pressing sucks, my back is strong, and vice versa. Pull-ups were full extension (dead hang), 2-1-2 tempo. Threw in an extra rep on my last set of rows too. Good day here at least.
Dragon13
Active member
06/02/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT seems to be giving solid results here.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, although added taurine is helping. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None (see Thoughts).
Softball game + 30 min steady-state.
THOUGHTS:
Had a PM softball game and didn't get back until quite late, so I canned the gym and pushed everything back a day.
As far as deciding to up kclas and bulk, drop them and cut, or continue a recomp; strangely enough I decided to stick to the original plan and continue the recomp, except be certain diet and cardio are in order. This plan will be subject to change based on today's (Monday, 06/08/09) WO. I am going to hit some heavy singles on bench to see where my max strength is at. The plan is 3-5 singles over 90% of max, which means 3-5 somewhere between 375-405. If I feel great I may shoot for higher (i.e. a new max), but we'll see. If strength sucks tonight, the cycle may end in the next day or 2. I hit some turbulence with the sides since my last update and I will go into this when that update comes.
More soon...
Day 29
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT seems to be giving solid results here.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, although added taurine is helping. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None (see Thoughts).
CARDIO
Softball game + 30 min steady-state.
THOUGHTS:
Had a PM softball game and didn't get back until quite late, so I canned the gym and pushed everything back a day.
As far as deciding to up kclas and bulk, drop them and cut, or continue a recomp; strangely enough I decided to stick to the original plan and continue the recomp, except be certain diet and cardio are in order. This plan will be subject to change based on today's (Monday, 06/08/09) WO. I am going to hit some heavy singles on bench to see where my max strength is at. The plan is 3-5 singles over 90% of max, which means 3-5 somewhere between 375-405. If I feel great I may shoot for higher (i.e. a new max), but we'll see. If strength sucks tonight, the cycle may end in the next day or 2. I hit some turbulence with the sides since my last update and I will go into this when that update comes.
More soon...
Dragon13
Active member
06/03/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
Great WO today. 1-TT seems to be giving solid results.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Deadlift: 315x4 365x4 405x1 455x1 495x1 515x4 545x3
Smith front squat: 185x10 245x8 275x8 SS w/ -
Leg curls: 120x10 140x8 140x8
Leg press: 470x10 650x8 790x8
None.
THOUGHTS:
Great WO! I deviated a little from my normla set/rep scheme, and just hit singles to get used to haveier weight while working up to 2 all-out, top-end sets without the cumulative fatigue of 2-3 work sets beforehand. End result - fantastic deads, 515x4 was easy for that weight, I had 2 more reps in the tank at least, and I probably had another rep at 545 as well. On front squats, I went heavier and dropped the back 2 sets to 8s, ditto leg curls. Leg press felt very strong too. It was really an excellent lower body day.
Hoever, even before I got to the gym, I was feeling a bit "off", and when I got home, I was running a fever within an hour. I felt like crap, so I showered and went to bed. More on this coming up...
Day 30
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
Great WO today. 1-TT seems to be giving solid results.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Deadlift: 315x4 365x4 405x1 455x1 495x1 515x4 545x3
Smith front squat: 185x10 245x8 275x8 SS w/ -
Leg curls: 120x10 140x8 140x8
Leg press: 470x10 650x8 790x8
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
Great WO! I deviated a little from my normla set/rep scheme, and just hit singles to get used to haveier weight while working up to 2 all-out, top-end sets without the cumulative fatigue of 2-3 work sets beforehand. End result - fantastic deads, 515x4 was easy for that weight, I had 2 more reps in the tank at least, and I probably had another rep at 545 as well. On front squats, I went heavier and dropped the back 2 sets to 8s, ditto leg curls. Leg press felt very strong too. It was really an excellent lower body day.
Hoever, even before I got to the gym, I was feeling a bit "off", and when I got home, I was running a fever within an hour. I felt like crap, so I showered and went to bed. More on this coming up...
Dragon13
Active member
06/04/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT seems to be giving solid results.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None, see below.
None.
THOUGHTS:
Well, I woke up in the same shape I went to bed in: feeling like a pile of dogshit. I really don't know what it was, a virus, whatever, but I felt like crap. Needless to say, I did not get to the gym this day. So, for the second time this week, everything got pushed back. Not good.
More to come...
Day 31
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT seems to be giving solid results.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None, see below.
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
Well, I woke up in the same shape I went to bed in: feeling like a pile of dogshit. I really don't know what it was, a virus, whatever, but I felt like crap. Needless to say, I did not get to the gym this day. So, for the second time this week, everything got pushed back. Not good.
More to come...
Dragon13
Active member
06/05/09
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT seems to be giving solid results.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Shoulders/arms.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Standing military: 135x7 155x6 185x1 205x1 225x6x1; 185x7x1(BO)
CGB: 225x6 275x2 295x1 315x6; 225x8 (BO,paused)
Barbell curls: 115x8 115x8 135x6
Lateral raises: 30x8 30x8 (pre-exhaust) SS w/ -
Neutral-grip DB military: 65x10 75x10
Weighted dips: BW+45x8 BW+90x6 BW+115x5x1 SS w/ -
DB hammer curls: 65X8 70x8 75x8
V-bar PD(3-1-2): 190x12 195x12
1-arm DB curls: 50x8 50x8; 35x12(BO)
Cable curls: 80x10
Minimal 15-minute session.
THOUGHTS:
I woke up feeling somewhat less awful, and as the day wore on I felt better and better. By the time gym time rolled around, I was still a bit "off", but asd I started the session that wore off and I felt pretty good, actually. I also got to the gym in the afternoon, a rare treat for me. Anyways...
This was an outstanding WO. 225x6 on military, almost had a 7th rep (push-press cheat for the last rep). Also, 315x6 CGB. I again used singles for my intermediuate sets to work up to 1-2 top end sets, and again, I had great results. I use this technique frequently when I switch things up, but I've never used it consistently on-cycle, opting instead for a more volume-oriented approach, which I assumed would work better while on. I may stick with this through the end of this run, though, as I'm quite happy with the results from this WO and from deadlift day.
Day 32
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT seems to be giving solid results.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Shoulders/arms.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Standing military: 135x7 155x6 185x1 205x1 225x6x1; 185x7x1(BO)
CGB: 225x6 275x2 295x1 315x6; 225x8 (BO,paused)
Barbell curls: 115x8 115x8 135x6
Lateral raises: 30x8 30x8 (pre-exhaust) SS w/ -
Neutral-grip DB military: 65x10 75x10
Weighted dips: BW+45x8 BW+90x6 BW+115x5x1 SS w/ -
DB hammer curls: 65X8 70x8 75x8
V-bar PD(3-1-2): 190x12 195x12
1-arm DB curls: 50x8 50x8; 35x12(BO)
Cable curls: 80x10
CARDIO
Minimal 15-minute session.
THOUGHTS:
I woke up feeling somewhat less awful, and as the day wore on I felt better and better. By the time gym time rolled around, I was still a bit "off", but asd I started the session that wore off and I felt pretty good, actually. I also got to the gym in the afternoon, a rare treat for me. Anyways...
This was an outstanding WO. 225x6 on military, almost had a 7th rep (push-press cheat for the last rep). Also, 315x6 CGB. I again used singles for my intermediuate sets to work up to 1-2 top end sets, and again, I had great results. I use this technique frequently when I switch things up, but I've never used it consistently on-cycle, opting instead for a more volume-oriented approach, which I assumed would work better while on. I may stick with this through the end of this run, though, as I'm quite happy with the results from this WO and from deadlift day.
Dragon13
Active member
06/06/0 - 06/07/09
SUPPS:
All the same, but I'd started lowering doses on some support supps this week. This ended up being disastrous. See below.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT seems to be giving solid results.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None - 2 scheduled off days.
Saturday - 1 30-minute steady-state session, and tons of yard work.
Sunday - Just the softball game.
THOUGHTS:
Moral of the story: Don't ever short the support supps, especially with a compound known to exhibit such strong negative sides.
I'll get the rest of this week updated soon, hopefully tonight.
Days 33 & 34
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same, but I'd started lowering doses on some support supps this week. This ended up being disastrous. See below.
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT seems to be giving solid results.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now, all is good.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None - 2 scheduled off days.
CARDIO
Saturday - 1 30-minute steady-state session, and tons of yard work.
Sunday - Just the softball game.
THOUGHTS:
Moral of the story: Don't ever short the support supps, especially with a compound known to exhibit such strong negative sides.
I'll get the rest of this week updated soon, hopefully tonight.
Dragon13
Active member
06/08/09
SUPPS:
All the same, and aupport supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
** Notice the drop again here. My diet really got dialed in the last 1 week +, so I'm hopeful that drop is fat. I do think I look leaner, but at the end I will let the pictures be the judge.**
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly seemed to give solid results, but this day's WO was a let-down. See below.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Chest - Semi-test day
*Since this was the last week of the cycle, and even though I hadn't specifically trained for PRs, I figured I'd get an idea of where I was doing heavy singles. This ended up with me working up to about a max attempt, although had it been a true max I would have done things a little differently. More on this below.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Bench: 225x6 245x3 275x2 315x1 335x1 365x1 385x1 405x1 375x1; 315x5(BO)
Floor press: 3x6 275x6 295x6 315x6
HS incline: 3x10 230x10 230x10 230x10; Push-ups (4-2-4): BWx12(BO)
None.
THOUGHTS:
This ended up being a chest-only day, which I haven't done in forever. The reason was, I planned on "for real" testing my deadlift max this week, since my last deadlift session went so well, and wanted to keep my back as fresh as possible.
Also, as I alluded to, this wasn't a true max attempt day. If it were, I wouldn't have done all the reps before I got to 405 or more. Instead, this was more a bunch of heavy singles, working up to a max attempt. IOW, this max is probably a few lbs less than what my real "fresh" max would be. In any event, I worked up to 405, 10 lbs off my PR, but truth be told, it was shaky as ****. I got the lift, but it wouldn't have counted in a powerlifitng meet, that's for sure (uneven lockout).
Now, I'm not sure whether to be disappointed or not with this. It looks like my strength is almost exactly the same as it was before the cycle. That sucks, buuuuut... this was supposed to be a recomp. I wasn't eating to grow at all times, like I was on my 1-T run, and this result further cemented the truism (at least for me) that food is the most anabolic agent around. I guess the final verdict will be if I lost any appreciable amount of fat, as well as if the deadlift goes well (SPOILER ALERT: it did, update soon). I will say that since my little rant-post about where to go with 2 weeks left in the cycle, my diet has been mostly spot-on and I do appear to be somewhat leaner.
Anyway, I guess the take home point is 5 weeks of 1-TT with my recomp-type diet didn't budge my bench an ounce. Take that FWIW.
Day 36
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same, and aupport supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
** Notice the drop again here. My diet really got dialed in the last 1 week +, so I'm hopeful that drop is fat. I do think I look leaner, but at the end I will let the pictures be the judge.**
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly seemed to give solid results, but this day's WO was a let-down. See below.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Chest - Semi-test day
*Since this was the last week of the cycle, and even though I hadn't specifically trained for PRs, I figured I'd get an idea of where I was doing heavy singles. This ended up with me working up to about a max attempt, although had it been a true max I would have done things a little differently. More on this below.
10-15 minute warm-up.
Bench: 225x6 245x3 275x2 315x1 335x1 365x1 385x1 405x1 375x1; 315x5(BO)
Floor press: 3x6 275x6 295x6 315x6
HS incline: 3x10 230x10 230x10 230x10; Push-ups (4-2-4): BWx12(BO)
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
This ended up being a chest-only day, which I haven't done in forever. The reason was, I planned on "for real" testing my deadlift max this week, since my last deadlift session went so well, and wanted to keep my back as fresh as possible.
Also, as I alluded to, this wasn't a true max attempt day. If it were, I wouldn't have done all the reps before I got to 405 or more. Instead, this was more a bunch of heavy singles, working up to a max attempt. IOW, this max is probably a few lbs less than what my real "fresh" max would be. In any event, I worked up to 405, 10 lbs off my PR, but truth be told, it was shaky as ****. I got the lift, but it wouldn't have counted in a powerlifitng meet, that's for sure (uneven lockout).
Now, I'm not sure whether to be disappointed or not with this. It looks like my strength is almost exactly the same as it was before the cycle. That sucks, buuuuut... this was supposed to be a recomp. I wasn't eating to grow at all times, like I was on my 1-T run, and this result further cemented the truism (at least for me) that food is the most anabolic agent around. I guess the final verdict will be if I lost any appreciable amount of fat, as well as if the deadlift goes well (SPOILER ALERT: it did, update soon). I will say that since my little rant-post about where to go with 2 weeks left in the cycle, my diet has been mostly spot-on and I do appear to be somewhat leaner.
Anyway, I guess the take home point is 5 weeks of 1-TT with my recomp-type diet didn't budge my bench an ounce. Take that FWIW.
Dragon13
Active member
06/09/09
SUPPS:
All the same, and aupport supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly appeared to give solid results.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None.
Softball game.
THOUGHTS:
I had a PM softball game after work, so I bumped the deadlift max to Wednesday night.
Nothing else to report here.
Day 37
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same, and aupport supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly appeared to give solid results.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None.
CARDIO
Softball game.
THOUGHTS:
I had a PM softball game after work, so I bumped the deadlift max to Wednesday night.
Nothing else to report here.
Dragon13
Active member
06/10/09
SUPPS:
All the same, and aupport supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly appeared to give solid results.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Back + deads
10-15 minute warm-up.
Deadlift: MAX - 315X5 405X3 495X1 565X1;
1st and only attempt: 635X1
T-bar row (V-bar handle grip): 3 plates+25x5 4 platesx5 5platesx5 6 platesx4 7 platesx3x1
Neutral-grip weighted chins: 3x6 BW+35x6 BW+35x6 BW+35x6
Lat pull: 2x10 190x10(tight, vertical) 175x10(wide grip, horizontal)
Face pulls: 180x8 190x6
None.
THOUGHTS:
Huge PR on deadlifts!!! I was f'in stoked after this lift, as much for the PR as for how frickin' easy it was. 635 came up like nothing. No struggle to get started, no grind at lockout - nothing. Clean and easy. I had another 10-20 lbs in me easy, but I always like to leave a max session with a PR, and a 20-lb PR was great. So in the next few months I will take aim at a goal I set 1.5 years ago when I started deadlifting again: 7 plates, or 675. Hopefully this fall/winter, then from there, on to 700. It seems weird to even be in the ballpark of 7 bills. That would be sweet.
The rest of the WO could have sucked at that point, but in fact it went great too. T-bar rows were fantastic, worked up to 7 plates for a solid 3 reps + 1 cheat rep. Everything else was good too, all in all a great day.
This session pretty much saved a likely mediocre overall grade from me on 1-TT. As I said, I'm in PCT as I write this, and when I catch up to the final day of the run (Friday) I will get a final review up with after pics. I snapped a few yesterday and will get a few more this week, hopefully better quality than my befores.
Day 38
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same, and aupport supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly appeared to give solid results.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Back + deads
10-15 minute warm-up.
Deadlift: MAX - 315X5 405X3 495X1 565X1;
1st and only attempt: 635X1
T-bar row (V-bar handle grip): 3 plates+25x5 4 platesx5 5platesx5 6 platesx4 7 platesx3x1
Neutral-grip weighted chins: 3x6 BW+35x6 BW+35x6 BW+35x6
Lat pull: 2x10 190x10(tight, vertical) 175x10(wide grip, horizontal)
Face pulls: 180x8 190x6
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
Huge PR on deadlifts!!! I was f'in stoked after this lift, as much for the PR as for how frickin' easy it was. 635 came up like nothing. No struggle to get started, no grind at lockout - nothing. Clean and easy. I had another 10-20 lbs in me easy, but I always like to leave a max session with a PR, and a 20-lb PR was great. So in the next few months I will take aim at a goal I set 1.5 years ago when I started deadlifting again: 7 plates, or 675. Hopefully this fall/winter, then from there, on to 700. It seems weird to even be in the ballpark of 7 bills. That would be sweet.
The rest of the WO could have sucked at that point, but in fact it went great too. T-bar rows were fantastic, worked up to 7 plates for a solid 3 reps + 1 cheat rep. Everything else was good too, all in all a great day.
This session pretty much saved a likely mediocre overall grade from me on 1-TT. As I said, I'm in PCT as I write this, and when I catch up to the final day of the run (Friday) I will get a final review up with after pics. I snapped a few yesterday and will get a few more this week, hopefully better quality than my befores.
Silver3CSRT8
Well-known member
Awesome job on the Deadlift PR. That weight is very impressive for sure! Glad your cycle turned out pretty well. I am sure you wanted more weight gain, but if you lost bf% then it kinda works out in the long run!
Dragon13
Active member
Thanks Silver, the cycle was a bit of a mixed bag for me. I will get this log finished and the final review up soon.
Dragon13
Active member
Yes but at smaller doses. I immediately tapered down on all the prolactin support supps, but I kept my BP supps and Cycle Support as normal until my BP stabilised (which it did, mostly). Now I am using smaller doses of everything and will likely end all support supps at the end of PCT week 2.
Dragon13
Active member
Yes, before pics are up back on page 1, I'll get the after pics in when I finish this thing up. Actually, I have some time now, so maybe I'll bang out the last 2 days.
Dragon13
Active member
06/11/09
SUPPS:
All the same, and support supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly appeared to give solid results.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
10th check (06/11): 130/70, back to sort-of inflated BP numbers I had throughout most of the cycle. As long as I'm back to normal a week or 2 into PCT I should be fine.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
None.
20-minute jog in the PM.
THOUGHTS:
Second-to-last day of cycle, I actually was able to get 40 full days at 6 pumpos a day out of 2 bottles, so that was cool. Nothing much to report that hasn't been already.
Last day of cycle coming up...
Day 39
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same, and support supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly appeared to give solid results.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
10th check (06/11): 130/70, back to sort-of inflated BP numbers I had throughout most of the cycle. As long as I'm back to normal a week or 2 into PCT I should be fine.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
None.
CARDIO
20-minute jog in the PM.
THOUGHTS:
Second-to-last day of cycle, I actually was able to get 40 full days at 6 pumpos a day out of 2 bottles, so that was cool. Nothing much to report that hasn't been already.
Last day of cycle coming up...
Dragon13
Active member
06/12/09
SUPPS:
All the same, and support supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly appeared to give solid results.
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
10th check (06/11): 130/70, back to sort-of inflated BP numbers I had throughout most of the cycle. As long as I'm back to normal a week or 2 into PCT I should be fine.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
Squat + shoulders/arms.
Bunch of bullshit...
None.
THOUGHTS:
So I got in the gym real late Friday, and I wanted to test my squat as well as shoulders, then hit my arms a bit, and instead I just had nothing in me. As I was warming up I just felt I had no "pop", no intensity. So I ****ed around for a while, didn't test, and wrapped it up. I know, crappy end to a run, but maybe it was my body telling me to back off for a while.
SO there it is, the cycle is over and I am in PCT as we speak. I will get
A) a final review, with grades;
B) "after" pics; and
C) a first update in PCT
up as soon as possible. Thanks to Primordial Performance, MaxGolf, and Trauma1 for the product, it was an interesting run.
Day 40 - Final Day of Cycle
6 pumps 1-T Tren applied in AM after shower.
The Good
SUPPS:
All the same, and support supps were maintained at "high" levels throughout the rest of the cycle..
MEASUREMENTS & WEIGHT:
Starting measurements:
Neck, 19.75"
R arm, 19.50
L arm, 19.50
L Quad, 29.5
R Quad, 29.5
Chest, 51.75 - 52
Waist, 38.75
Starting weight: 264 lbs.
1-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 263.5 (-0.5)
2-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 265.5 (+1.5)
3-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 269.5 (+5.5)
4-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 268.5 (+4.5)
5-WEEK WEIGH-IN: 266 (+2)
STRENGTH/ENDURANCE:
1-TT has mostly appeared to give solid results.
The Bad
SIDES:
1) LIBIDO - Libido definitely in the toilet now. Likely a combo of 1-TT and the ATD in Reversitol.
2) BP - Opening value: 123/78.
1st check (05/14): 125/75 (roughly)
2nd check (05/17): 130/70 (roughly)
3rd check: (05/21): 135/60 (??? WTF?) I don't think I'm doing this right. I'm going to have to practice this a bit to make sure I'm getting accurate numbers.
4th check (05/24): 130/70 again, I think? At least it doesn't appear to be getting worse.
5th check (05/29): 130/75 - pretty sure I got this right, and actually I'm fairly happy that with 4 full weeks done, the BP isn't getting any worse. I can live with that level for 2 more weeks.
6th check (05/31): 130/70 (roughly) - holding steady, I guess I have all the support supps to thank.
7th check (06/05): Missed Thursday's b/c I was ill, but BP ticked up a bit - 135/75. I think this was related to my supps. I was running out of some of the BP-support supps I had, and I was trying to conserve them by lowering the dose. This ended up being a disastrous decision (more on this in Sunday's update).
*** As I headed into my 6th and final week, I realized I would not have enough CoQ10, Celery Seed, or stand-alone Hawthorne Berry to finish the run and the 1st week of PCT as at my regular dosing, as was my plan. I was still taking only 1 teaspoon of Cycle Support per day as well. So, I figured as I was close to the end of the run, I could "half-ass" the dosing on those supps to extend them to the end of the run and into PCT and still be OK. Boy was I wrong.
On Sunday I woke up with a solid headache. I figured it was illness-related, took a few Motrin, and went to my softball game. However, after the game and as the morning turned into the afternoon, the headache was no better and in fact was getting worse. I didn't think it was BP-related, but just to be safe I took my BP and got...
...
8th check (06/07): 155/85. Holy fukking hypertension. I freaked out, I almost stopped the cycle right there, but I said I'd give myself 48 hours to get it under control, and if it wasn't, the cycle would end. So I immediately moved to 2 doses of Cycle Support, as well as not only going back to my original BP-support supp dosing, but upping those doses too. Yes, I would run out maybe a day or 2 into PCT. But I knew I had to get the BP in check right away.
9th check (06/08): In only 24 hours my mega-dosing of the BP supps dropped it back to 135/70. Worse than what I'd been maintaining, but a ton better then 155/85. If I can hold that for a couple days, I'm in the clear. At this point, I'm ready for the cycle to end anyway.
10th check (06/11): 130/70, back to sort-of inflated BP numbers I had throughout most of the cycle. As long as I'm back to normal a week or 2 into PCT I should be fine.
3) AGGRESSION - Any aggression I had at the start is pretty much gone. Guess it was a short-term thing.
4) HAIR LOSS - I'm starting to notice the shedding is a little bit more prevalent. It was strong, hit a lull, and now seems to be making a comeback. Still mild overall, though.
5) GYNO SYMPTOMS - Back to none after adding in 2nd cap of Reversitol.
6) TESTICULAR ATROPHY - Rather significant shrinkage, to be honest. Shutdown seems pretty harsh, as others have reported with the "Tren" designers.
7) MISC. - Back pumps, but added taurine is helping a lot. I now take 500 mg in AM and 1 g pre-WO. Virtually no pumps on heavy deadlift day - excellent results.
ACNE- Body acne is present, although it is mostly cleared up now.
MOOD/LETHARGY/ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE:
Mood is still fine, lethargy pretty much gone now.
Still sweating more than usual, although much less than first 1-2 weeks of cycle (1-TT thermogenic effect).
The Workout
Squat + shoulders/arms.
Bunch of bullshit...
CARDIO
None.
THOUGHTS:
So I got in the gym real late Friday, and I wanted to test my squat as well as shoulders, then hit my arms a bit, and instead I just had nothing in me. As I was warming up I just felt I had no "pop", no intensity. So I ****ed around for a while, didn't test, and wrapped it up. I know, crappy end to a run, but maybe it was my body telling me to back off for a while.
SO there it is, the cycle is over and I am in PCT as we speak. I will get
A) a final review, with grades;
B) "after" pics; and
C) a first update in PCT
up as soon as possible. Thanks to Primordial Performance, MaxGolf, and Trauma1 for the product, it was an interesting run.
