DermaTherm - Should I be upset?

chasingsize

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I purchased dermatherm from NP, not even thinking wether or not, it would be the new forumla or not. However, it's the old formula.

Should I be disappointed? I've read alot of good reviews about the new dermatherm, did the old dermatherm even work well?

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Is it safe to run the dermatherm, with DCP and leviathan?

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I'm on dermacrine as well, should I apply both topicals post shower?
 
chasingsize said:
I purchased dermatherm from NP, not even thinking wether or not, it would be the new forumla or not. However, it's the old formula.

Should I be disappointed? I've read alot of good reviews about the new dermatherm, did the old dermatherm even work well?

Also -

Is it safe to run the dermatherm, with DCP and leviathan?

Last question -

I'm on dermacrine as well, should I apply both topicals post shower?
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I believe that NP is/was clearing out their stock of the old formula. Make no mistake though, both formulas are very effective in terms of fatloss. The older formula version contained DHEA and 7-OXO DHEA (of which are both hormonal.) We took out that hormonal aspect to make this a more versatile product for everyone overall, and we really wanted to make the formula more "Target-specific" in effect with the application. To do this, we increased the theophylline content. The old formula will give more of a systemic effect on fatloss; where the new formula will give more "target-specific" effects where you apply it.


Also -

Is it safe to run the dermatherm, with DCP and leviathan?
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Dermatherm would stack VERY well with your DCP and leviathan.



Last question -

I'm on dermacrine as well, should I apply both topicals post shower?
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You would really want to spread the application times out if you choose to do this. I'm not really sure since you have the older formulation that i'd run them both together here. It will increase the hormonal aspect and potentially cause more of a shutdown effect (though probably still very mild depending on length used). How long have you been on the dermacrine? How long do you plan to run it?

The dermacrine itself should help to add a nice fatloss/recomp effect to your stack.
 
I was planning on running the derma, for 6 weeks, along with phyto-test

I was thinking I would apply my dermatherm in the morning at around 7:30 am, and my dermacrine in the evening around 9:30-10:00 pm... do you think I would still risk shutting down alot quicker? as libido would be a concern.
 
chasingsize said:
I was planning on running the derma, for 6 weeks, along with phyto-test

I was thinking I would apply my dermatherm in the morning at around 7:30 am, and my dermacrine in the evening around 9:30-10:00 pm... do you think I would still risk shutting down alot quicker? as libido would be a concern.
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There is no way to say for certain how much suppression (on HPTA or libido) would be evident, because everyone is different. I'm just speaking from the stance that you're adding an additional hormonal substance into the mix, so the potential is there.

Now keep in mind that you'll get some of the 7-oxo DHEA conversion (a metabolite of DHEA) with the dermacrine use. This is what is contained in the Dermatherm and helps to propagate fatloss effects.
 
what do you suggest is best for residual fatty deposits? such as, bulgy love handles, and a hanging gut..... other then HIT... which I'm doing... I'm not sure what the difference between visceral fat , and the residual fat is... I've been lean before and it still hasn't tightened up fully.. I've heard tanning is effective sometimes for tightening the skin... do you perhaps know of any other products? many thanks for your replies thus far
 
chasingsize said:
what do you suggest is best for residual fatty deposits? such as, bulgy love handles, and a hanging gut..... other then HIT... which I'm doing... I'm not sure what the difference between visceral fat , and the residual fat is... I've been lean before and it still hasn't tightened up fully.. I've heard tanning is effective sometimes for tightening the skin... do you perhaps know of any other products? many thanks for your replies thus far
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Get your DIET in order, and you'll lose fat effectively enough.

If you have "love handles, and a hanging gut" chances are this is where you predominantly store your fat, and most likely will be the last place that you will lose fat from.

"Visceral fat" is basically your ESSENTIAL fat stores, and is found between organs, etc. "Residual fat" is pretty much any fat that you have that is NOT part of your body's essential fat stores (note that essential fat % differs between individuals, but is usally 3-5% BF for males and 8-12% BF for females).

As for "tightening the skin", this is dependent on many factors, including but not limited to, collagen, how much fat is lost (and the size you were pre), etc.
 
yeah hes talking about residual skin. i have some, im just gonna try to get bigger and utilize some of it. there really isnt much you can do about it.
 
fightbackhxc said:
yeah hes talking about residual skin. i have some, im just gonna try to get bigger and utilize some of it. there really isnt much you can do about it.
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Well "residual fat and "residual SKIN" are two completely differebt things. The only way one will get "residual skin" (i.e. loose skin) is if they were rather large and then lost a lot of weight (fat and/or muscle). The only way to "fill" it out would be to build more muscle (or gain fat).
 
yeah i was just clearing it up for ya, i mean i think thats what he meant.
 
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